0:00 The FCC chairman came out and basically said like like you have to if you have one of our licenses you have to act in the public good right I'm not saying I agree with it by the way calm down [Music] >> welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys where we are very saddened today because one of Steve's favorite late night hosts has been suspended indefinitely from >> Oh dude sorry >> sorry boys >> Jimmy >> another whitey bites the dust Yeah, sorry, man. So, yeah, Jimmy Kimmel show has been uh suspended indefinitely. There's conflicting ideas about what that means. Wall Street Journal says it's going to be back up in a couple days. >> What? >> Uh they believe it can. I don't know why. Um and then on the other side of things, it's completely gone and the
0:52 others are set to go next apparently. >> So, the official reasoning is because he he made that Charlie. So the yeah the offici well it depends what you're looking at but like the the most popular reasoning is that because Jimmy Kimmel had said that um MAGA is trying really hard to make this kid who is the shooter not look like one of their own. That was the main line. And then there's another greater thing that people are now looking at more is that there's a merger between two companies Nextstar and I think Tegna is what's called. Um, and they're that's like the parent company. Uh, Nexar is a parent company over this show and they need to get FCC approval in order to merge. Uh, it's like a over a $6 billion merger deal. And so they're as a way of like padding or trying to gain favor. They're um they're taking
1:44 Jimmy Kimmel out over this as a thing where maybe that's not the reason, but it's a good uh it's a good way to get away with uh losing him over it because also late night TV is dying and but you can't just like you know get rid of people like you obviously need a good reason for it as well. >> Well, because the contract stuff. >> Yeah. So that there's that too where uh I think >> Jimmy Kimmel has a contract with them and if he >> if they can like blame something that he did like in malice or whatever then they can get opt out of his contract and don't have to pay him out. >> Got it. >> Like if you pull his dick out and Paul's verdies like dude why'd you do that? >> Yeah. >> Cancel the contract. >> Is it known how long that contract is supposed to go? >> I don't know. But if it makes sense if the show's losing money and if they're doing a merger and then the buyer or whatever or they're looking at it, they're like, "Bro, this thing is losing
2:34 money. Like, we got to get rid of him." They're like, "All right, well, before the deal's done, let's get and this was a perfect reason to fire him." But is the official reason why he was fired because of that? Well, the the thing is that um on the cut and dry side, so he his statement that he made was made a day after the Utah governor had already released information through the um authorities that were investigating it that the shooter was indeed a leftist. >> I don't know. I don't care what he is. I don't know. But that's what the information they received. So knowing that they already had that yet Kimmel decided to still say Oh, they're just trying to make him seem like he's not MAGA as much as possible. That's like I'm paraphrasing it. >> So, he's like pretty much fired from telling a lie kind of
3:24 >> from being completely defiant over the >> FCC chairman came out and basically said like like you have to if you have one of our licenses, you have to act in the public good, right? I'm not saying I agree with it, by the way. Calm down. He he's saying like you have to act within the public good. And so we're not going to, you know, that's that we could suspend your license like ABC's license for this >> because it's like technically considered misinformation that he's like >> because that's the official statement of the investigation from an actual officer, >> right? Exactly. Exactly. >> So he's going against what the officer said, >> which who knows? Nobody, we haven't determined yet exactly the truth. It could go back and forth. And plus, like there's so much material that's fake on both sides that put him in random t-shirts with AI that make this dude look mega or look liberal, whatever. But
4:15 the all they know is that the network had facts and they chose to say something that wasn't the actually what they received. >> So then that is the reason why he got fired. Like that's that's the official that's the reason they're going with. Okay. Okay. That's what they're going. But then like again like there's so it's there's no way that's the only reason. I just highly doubt it. >> There's so many other underworkings that we'll never actually really know. >> I think it's a big combination of all of them all at once and I think that was the perfect like oh that's a great out. You know what I mean? >> Yeah cuz these shows are are are bleeding money. That's a fact. >> Aren't all of them doing bad? >> They're all Yeah, they're all doing bad cuz wasn't um was it Conan or recently someone also stopped doing >> Oh. Well, he's not done yet but he he's he's out like next year. Oh, >> they're canceling the show. >> But then it's one of those things where like everybody's outraged about it.
5:05 Can't even prove they've watched a full episode of this freaking >> I haven't watched a late night TV show since like 2010 >> and you only watch the clips because they're slam ████ into your feed. Like you're not looking for that stuff. It just happens. >> I mean, I also think that the outrage I guess comes like there's a highlevel kind of uh way that people are describing why it's outrageous, right? Yeah, >> it's the idea that uh Charlie Kirk specifically was fighting for like free speech and then then and so the online argument is like well Jimmy Kimmel just said something and now he's getting his show cancelled for it. What how is that free speech? Right. >> And by the way, I personally agree with that. >> Yeah, I do too. But then but then there's the the counter argument and again I don't I'm not saying I agree with ████ but the counterargument to that being like there's a difference between what free speech is where uh if you chose to say something you would get assassinated or imprisoned by your
5:56 government versus >> you can still say anything you want but there are consequences to things that you say especially when it comes to a private company or network is your boss that's completely different if you say >> something but >> the FCC is leaning ing on ABC and leaning on this merger. So you could argue that the government is using their power to to harm somebody who who used free speech. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Because because it's going through that line. Yeah. >> Government overreach. >> Yeah. And I'm not a personal fan of Jimmy Kimmel, but I like I just never have like got on with his type of humor, but he should get to say whatever the hell he wants in my opinion. even when he was on the man show. Oh, >> that that's when I liked him. >> And also, if he's technically a comedian, right, and this isn't like
6:46 official news, I think journal like news should probably have a different standard from like a talk show. So, like >> for example, like if you're reporting news and then now it feels like everyone just has an opinion as a newscast or anchor, right? And then they're kind of paring like one angle depending on what that station sides with. >> Yeah. >> Whether it's Fox or CNN. >> I think they have more of a responsibility to be like unbiased. I think it was during Clinton or Bush, but they used to have this rule where if you're reporting one side, you have to at least have 30% of your content uh show the opposing side. >> Oh, okay. >> It was called the fairness doctrine. Yeah. They used to have that. They don't have that anymore. So, you could go full left or full right and it becomes this
7:38 like echo chamber, right? >> Is that why Fox News like doesn't consider itself like news station? >> They're entertainment. They all kind They all kind of did that. MSNBC had to do that, too. >> Oh, MSNBC did that, too. >> Yeah, cuz the legal battle stuff, >> right? Cuz it's too hard to like report on stuff. But a a talk show host or a comedian, I feel like they can have their own viewpoints and opinions. Yeah. even if it's like >> and what's the standard like like Joe's saying like so if I'm watching the news I think they're more likely to be punished for giving just information that we know isn't true >> the Jimmy Kimmel writer room is not responsible to like update the current most news >> that's a good point >> I just think that's weird >> I really think that standard >> why is he getting punished but all of these news stations that ████ up all the time on purpose right >> they don't even retract statements >> no yeah They're getting sued all the
8:29 time for defamation. They don't get in trouble. >> Yeah. >> And then and then it further polarizes like the ongoing conversation of like, you know, the the right is usually like cancel culture. That's really really bad. And then now now the right's cancelling people. >> They're h they're hooping for it. They're >> Yeah. So it gets it really really complicated now because of like what is already again a high level online there. People in general on social media aren't going to be like, "I wonder what the business plays with the FCC, or is there a possible merger that's affecting this decision to cancel this?" Nobody's going to do that. They're just going to see the clip. Like, like Ryan said, most of you, they probably don't even watch an entire episode of Jimmy Kimmel, but it's like, yo, this >> this is like speaking to my echo chamber of political understanding of like why this is incorrect thing >> and it's just fueling more of that fire. >> Yeah, it's definitely unfortunate. Uh
9:19 cuz like Steve was saying, when you when you just follow that chain up, it is the government itself that is influencing this the most. >> Absolutely. >> That's who they're trying to appease when it all is said and done. And like most I I don't know if I'm I'm really biased about believing that anything that happens in any industry is money is the root of it. And in this case, like they want to make money on that merger. And and the reason why it's difficult is because it's hard for for media companies to merge because they'd never want like monopolies to develop and stuff. So it's very like >> Yeah. They really care about it a lot. Yeah, >> it's very difficult to pull off. So, I'm sure like at a time like this, that was just a really not a good move to do, right, >> for your show, right? You know what I mean? >> Plus, you got the coincidence that Trump recently was just like Jimmy Kimmel's next, >> you know? True. >> Really? What happened there? >> After Co Bear went down, he said Kimmel's next. He tweeted it. >> Well, now his tweet is saying that uh
10:09 that the rest of the guy like Seth Myers are all they're all next. He said that straight up. I think look to me it's it's the government the FCC being involved in leaning on companies is how it is how it's always been like what Ryan's saying but that doesn't make it okay. I don't think that what Jimmy Kimmel said was even a joke. So that part of it like was weird for me cuz I'm like that wasn't even a joke dude. Like there's no bit but he should get to say it and and his writer room isn't responsible for getting the current most information. Like I don't know why people are saying Jimmy Kimmel's giving disinformation. Like it's he's not like a news anchor, brother. Like that's not the same. >> That's like if Jaw Rule gave a wrong thing and everyone's like, "Jaw Rule, dude, >> we're canceling Jaw Rule." >> That's like when people say, "Oh, JK, you got this wrong." We're like, "Okay." Yeah, true. >> Yeah. >> We don't need to be Nobody looks at us with some huge standard cuz first of
11:00 all, we get the news out pretty late. >> Trump's Trump's uh I wouldn't say tweet cuz I think this is he only uses truth. social now. But he said, "Great news for America. The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel show is cancelled. Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done. Kimmel has zero talent and worse ratings than even Coobe if that's possible. That leaves Jimmy and Seth two total losers on fake news. Their ratings are horrible. Do it NBC president DJT." >> By the way, that was funnier than what Kimmel said, but >> two total losers. You know, you know, this fool's been holding grudges. >> Yeah, >> he's been holding He's probably like, "Ha, >> for all those jokes you made of me." I It's just funny to think that's where we're at. >> By the way, I'll never forget the clip when Tucker Carlson got fired from Fox
11:51 News. >> Jimmy Kimmel came out and he was like celebrating it, like doing a bunch of but he was doing a bunch of jokes about it. God forbid. Like he's just joking about it. people on the right are going like, "See, so Jimmy Kimmel was rooting for Tucker Carlson to be cancelceled." And it's like, "Yeah, he was, but he was also just there as a as a comedian doing jokes about it." Like, it's not like I It's not the same to me. >> And even if Jamie Kimmel was like giving misinformation and stuff, he should still also have that platform or the space to be like, "Okay, that was incorrect if you got called out on it, you know, like because he's not being held at that level, like Steve was saying, as like a news anchor that's meant to be only giving factual information." >> Yeah, that's true. Yeah. the talk show. Yeah. Like the next day to be like, "Hey, the other episode we had said some things. It's not accurate." Whatever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And that's why when you know um Alex Jones got sued, they the his
12:42 lawyers said like he's an entertainer. When Rachel Matau got sued, her lawyers said she's an entertainer. Like they're not news people. Like that's that's what they used legally to get away from that. I think a Fox News anchor got sued. Same same thing. Said like I'm an entertainer. I guess I could see the network's point of view on that even more then because like when Alex Jones gets sued like he gets sued to ████ >> and and ABC's probably like okay we can't have that happen let's cancel the show. >> No legit. Yeah that's what's going on. >> Oh protective like >> Yeah because imagine I don't know who but you know if there is some sort of detriment to somebody out there because of this statement >> and then they go into this giant lawsuit and now it's like a billion dollar suit. Well, Trump has been suing the news stations like and won he won a bunch of settlements from that so far. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> So, it's it's because of that actually
13:32 American legal sue culture that I can see why it's another plus towards like just let's just cancel this. >> Mhm. >> Well, yeah. And it's just a liability they'll have to move forward in this merger with which they probably wanted to minimize, I'm guessing. >> But it's not about Charlie Kirk. It's not about like >> anything except the money like Ryan. It's all the money, dude. Cuz remember during lockdown when Facebook and everyone was uh cancelling and closing accounts and doing all that >> that's actually because of the government were breathing down their necks and saying Facebook if you can't get your ████ in order we're going to come in and do it for you. >> So this all came out recently that that all got I think it was like declassified. It was a public freedom of information act thing. Facebook was emailing being emailed by the government every single day and they're saying why
14:22 aren't you reporting um what we want you to report on COVID cases and and on COVID numbers. The Biden administration was was personally >> pressuring Facebook every single day. >> Yep. So, same as it ever was, unfortunately. >> And we saw the emails with X when it was Twitter. Um, and why, you know, everyone that was going against the narrative was because they were getting messages directly from the CIA and the FBI telling them to stop. >> Exactly. >> So, Exactly. Right. >> It's always Yeah. At the end of the day, it's power and government, >> right? I think and I think that's the main point is like don't I guess like if you're watching JK News like the the I guess the stance that we're trying to push is like don't have an immediate visceral emotional reaction to stuff like this because the things that are at play are are just there's way more elements there and I think like most
15:12 things you let everyone else off easy when you just get mad and you become a worse person and you lose friends over these things that are happening where they're gaining money and gaining connections and they're actually winning over it. And if you're the only one losing, then yeah, that's it's very much a pitiful thing if it's your loss. So, >> and I used to fall for stuff like that, emotional reactions and stuff like that, but once I learned to follow the money more, like got older, it's been pretty clear. >> Yeah. Everything basically is a money move, especially at that level. Like, what wouldn't be? Why wouldn't they? Right. >> There's no morality plays. >> Well said.
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