0:00 Okay, so there's something that's been kind of going on a little bit. I don't know if this is just hyperfixated because of recent situations, but I'm going to show you this graphic here. This is um all within the last couple weeks. These are all copycat crimes uh that are just like Lindsay Clancy's. >> Oh wow. >> And this is just within the recent like maybe like a week and a half ago. >> What? And luckily for us, we got Suben here to explain to us what the hell's going on, bro. >> Yeah. What's going on? Why are there all these murders of their kids now? >> What's going on is ████ weak ass my ████ You know what I'm saying? Like, come on. Okay. Why you scared, bro? Hey, >> that's ████ That's terrifying. That's why I'm scared. What are you talking
0:50 about? >> Are you worried about leaving? >> Oh, I thought you were scared of me. >> You guys are worried about leaving your wives with the with the kids now? No, because my, you know, it's funny when the first Lindsay whatever case came up. Um, I was just like, I got to see my wife's point of view. You know what I mean? Cuz I'm scared. >> What did she say? >> She's like, what the ████ is wrong with her? I was like, great, we're on the right page. I was like, we're good. And plus, she loves her so much. He lo She loves him so much. I was like, I'm not even worried about anyways. >> Yeah. >> Do you guys know any clies? >> I don't think I do. >> No, I haven't met anyone. >> Only online? >> Yeah, online. hella Twitter people and stuff. >> You know what it is? I I don't I don't see or hear people that are like Lindsay supporters. I think it's just like through all the information, there's a lot of like questioning and not believing that it's as simple as like ████ was crazy. >> I saw tons of the husband did it stuff,
1:40 >> but I don't know anyone personally who thinks that. >> I feel like those are hard people to know. >> Yeah. >> Like they don't seem that common. >> And also I think like with the whole thing I think like why are you even making it that complicated, >> you know? That's that's what I think is the the the big thing where it's like, well, if you look at this and then this and then this and then this. I'm like, well, how about someone just killed all their kids. >> I know. Yeah. >> Well, it's cuz there's a weird thing going on, too, where people are basically saying that postpartum depression doesn't exist. And it's like, but those people take like some people take that to the extreme and say like because it exists, when she killed her kids, she was in a state of mind and blah blah blah. And I'm just like, whatever. She killed her ████ kids. Shut up. >> Yeah. Exactly. I think most people are standing up for the what is it like they don't want it to be a loss for women's conditions. They feel like it's it's pushing it more towards that rather than
2:30 like they can't just objectively look at it like a bad thing. >> I I think the argument was a good argument if it actually was the husband. Then you're like, "Okay, now we're not talking about now we're talking about the wrong person." But then once it's like everybody fully admits that she was the one who did that's it's like where's the argument? That's all. >> But this has been a thing for a long time. Like we've all heard the stories when when I was growing up, ladies driving their kids into lakes and ████ Like >> it's a thing. >> Yeah. There's also a weird misconception. I don't know where this came from, but like some women they look at it and they go, "Well, men do it, too." As if we think it's okay when guys do it. Like, put them on the chair when they do it. I don't care. Put everybody like down when they do it. >> But didn't they show an example of all the guys that did it? They immediately got sentenced. And it wasn't this controversial thing. It was like, "Yeah, that ████ killed his kids." >> Dudes don't stand up for dudes when
3:21 >> there's no men's rights guys outside of courous being like, "Let him go, brother. Let the letting my bro go." >> Yeah. And I know the conditions are different. It's not like that guy had postpartum from giving birth. But yeah, you're right. I think it's a >> I guess it's also one of those things where um maybe it's like uh it's like everybody's like, "Oh, dude, these many COVID deaths happened during this year." It's like, "Well, so there's just not any flu deaths anymore. They're just all CO deaths. >> Whoa. Anthony, >> are these are these also like copycats or did the same amount of murders just always happened? >> Oh yeah, that's true. >> That's how I felt too. I feel like co again. >> Are these a little bit of both? Because they do say that um whenever something gets a lot of attention like a a school shooter or whatever, right? Insignificant people will dream of that attention. So then what ends up happening is copycats. there's always
4:12 going to be copycats and that's why they're like, "Dude, the media is also responsible for this ████ because of how much attention it gives the subject and they also are searching because it's a hot topic." So then they also support these ████ cuz when it happens, they go see another one and another one cuz they want to ride it. So that's kind of like if you understand that tactic, you could be like Trump or Kim Kardashian because you'll know how the rage baiting works. Um the hell there's hella unwell people out there who mentally are ████ and they see stuff like this and they go I'm not alone and then I'm actually more I can do I can be this person. >> I want to kill my I've been wanting to kill my kids too. >> ████ a >> I've been reading comments like that though like in the in the clan supporter people. They're like it's common. I wanted to ████ murder my child and everyone's like you're ████ crazy. What the ████
5:02 >> I saw ████ on the news saying ████ like that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's nuts. What do you think, man? What is this? Is this a contagion? Is this something that's spreading, do you think? >> I don't think it's spreading, you know? I honestly don't think it's spreading. But I just feel like it's it's like what Joe said. It's too much attention. So, it feels like it's becoming like uh what do you call it? >> Like more frequent. >> Yeah, more frequent. But I feel like they're just >> It's the same amount. You think? >> It's the same amount. And they're just picking and choosing and highlighting specific things and stuff like that, you know? So, >> I think it's more frequent. I think there's there was just one like um a month ago we were talking about where this lady after this happened with Lindsay Clancy. It was like the week after she killed her kids. So, like I just I just think there's something >> there's a phenomenon where it's like a statistically there's a significant bump. Whatever the press reports, it
5:54 could be this, it could be, oh, look at all the guys that have been crashing their cars into whatever. There's always going to be a significant statistical bump right out. >> That's what I'm wondering. Is it like a a copycat phenomenon or is it one of those things where where the news is like, "Oh, this is spiking right now. Let's just do more of those stories." >> I think it's both, >> you know? I definitely think it gives birth to more cases whenever the news >> It's in vogue right now. That's That's the thing. >> That's crazy. It's vogue. >> It's in thing, dude. It's the thing, man. >> I just wish there weren't so many ████ dumbass ████ people out there. >> The in thing is killing your kids. That's wild. That's 2026. >> People can be swayed to do anything. Well, I just never thought I would see a whole movement of people defending that >> and holding signs. >> I just never thought that would be I thought that was so like like comedic that it would never actually happen. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That part is crazy, bro. Like the the whole ████
6:46 I get it, right? The postpartum, you know what I mean? I get it. But like why just why are we even arguing about the death? It's like somebody holding up a sign for like you should be able to club a ████ seal if you want to. Like it's to me it's just so common sense. It's like why would what? >> Yeah. I don't know. >> I think that's an even easier issue to tackle is seal clubbing. >> But I also think that what what made her specific case a little more like debated is because of the how the state law is written. So it's up to the state to prove the uh insanity. it it's not up to the defense to defend the insanity. So this is why for that specific state it
7:36 became this whole issue of like well is she guilty or not guilty because in most states the defendant has to go uh yeah we we you know it she did kill but this is the reason why they don't have to do that. >> The state has to prove the insanity. Yeah. The this is why the jury had a hard time going like, "Yeah, she's completely guilty because they're talking about if it's a criminal offense or not." And then that's where it got confusing cuz for most states, the state doesn't have to prove her insanity. >> How does the state prove her insanity? Like what does it has? >> Well, through the evidence and through the through the like the prosecution has to uh basically prove that it was criminal. Sorry. The pro >> Oh, the prosecution proves it. has to prove that it was intentionally criminal like she she murdered not you know like
8:26 she was premeditated or whatever right but then uh yeah so so if it was like California most other states it it's it's the defense that says yeah it wasn't criminal here's the reason why uh she was insane at the moment >> that's why they had that lady like who was examining her psychosis and ████ like that because they're trying to prove like she was in a state of mind while it was happening >> but it's the prosecution proving it All right. The prosecutors has to prove that it was criminal. >> Oh, okay. So, burden of proof is on is on the prosecute. Okay, I see what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. >> So, that's where it got really confusing because people automatically assume that the uh defense has to prove the insanity, right? >> But they don't have to in in that state. >> Yeah. >> And people like my mom are like, "Well, it's beyond reasonable doubt she killed her kid." But then it's like, "Well, it's not beyond reasonable doubt that she wasn't under a state of mind."
9:17 >> Yeah. >> Right. I wish guys could use that. Like I was in a state of horniness, that's why I banged the hooker. >> I think that you don't have to prove that. >> I think guys do that. >> Do you think that that's on its way out or do you think it's going to be even more uh I guess prevalent? The whole like state of mind being a way to get out of like crimes, >> the state of mind >> cuz you know how like >> it's already happening, isn't it? >> Well, that's what I mean. Like I feel like now that we've seen this case, it feels like even more of a copout. >> Well, I think they're expanding it. So before it would be like like rules are rules, right? And you're just responsible for actions. Yeah. >> And then like mental health might have been like like this like a small area and then slowly as they tap into it this like now that it's no longer just about actions. It's also about mental state of everything. It just feels like that's counterproductive because every time
10:08 there's a crazy guy that shoots you randomly or stabs you randomly, he's unfit to stand trial because of mental aptitude or whatever. It's almost like it's there's no way to convict anybody. >> Look at the bottom left article. Lindsay Clancy obsessed mom Cory Walsh sang Wizard of Oz tune after hanging her 2-year-old son. Like it's a it's absolutely copycat ████ >> That's ████ crazy. >> It's insane. >> Subin. >> Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. >> Which one is the crazy dude? Mistakenly placed infant in oven is bananas. >> That Yeah, that that one was crazy. >> That was ████ >> How do we How do we put a stop to this human? >> She's like I was just putting it down real quick. My my state's rule would be if one parent kills the kid, the other parent could smoke the parent. >> Whoa. Yeah. And then afterwards, the other parent also gets smoked. >> Well, would they want that though? >> Is that what they would want? >> I know I would. Gio kills Ta. I'm
11:00 ████ smoking her ass. >> It is what it is. >> What if she killed uh Cooper? >> Kill me instead. >> Well, how do you What What do you think? What should we do? How do we put it into We got to make an example out of one. >> But she's If she's actually crazy, >> I don't think it's going to help. >> We just tried to make an example out of one and there were a bunch of crazy wine ladies outside. >> Yeah. I don't know, man. I I I don't know. ████ >> Well, there's always just that sub like conversation about America that like when we make Netflix documentaries out of like serial killers and stuff, it just like >> makes it so serial killers are like, "Yeah, there's a platform for me here." And so the same thing constantly happens. Whereas like you know you see it in other countries like they don't this there's not even a second of a you don't get any facetime for this. You're just gone.
11:50 >> Yeah. >> And then that's why it's less in those places. >> It's crazy cuz ████ love murder stuff. Like they love murder stuff. Guys just do murder. >> We don't like think about it a lot and all and like fantasize about it. We just do it. >> Chip ████ are always ████ fantasizing, dreaming about it. >> Yeah. Guys are more into simulated murder in action movies and then women want the real docs. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You know what I mean? >> They want the th the pull of the thread and slow burn the story. Yeah. >> And it's got to be like based on a true. It's got to be a real thing. >> That's how smack is whenever we watch movies. He's like, "Is this based on anything true?" Um and I just sometimes go, "Yeah, I think." And she's like, "Cool." >> You watching Die Hard? You're like, "Absolutely." >> Die Hard. >> Yeah. We just want to see cars explode and stuff. Uh, she's like, "I don't want to waste my time if this is a madeup story."
12:40 >> That's true. Cuz I think girls are like the biggest consumer of horror, like all the ████ crime. Yeah. All that. >> And I'm like, it is kind of gay to be into that stuff. When you think of a guy that's like hella into horror, true crime, like looking like a vampire all day, you're just like, "You gay." But if it was a girl, it's like, "Oh, you sexy. You want to be a witch?" Like that's cool. That's sexy. >> Maybe it's ed maybe it's edgy looking or something. Yeah, but if a skinny ass like psycho looking dude is like, "What's wrong with you, dude?" Like, "You're just watching death ████ all day." >> He seems like he's gonna do it. >> It's like the Combine kids. Those guys were ████ weird. >> Yeah. >> Is it Is it like, "Okay, let's let's take a second back, though." Like, is it because usually it's the guy that's the perpetrator and the woman that's the victim? So, we're looking at real life stuff and we're like, I don't want to see that. That that I'm not the per so I
13:31 don't relate. Dude, if I was mayor, I would everybody who walks down the street dressed like the Matrix and you're a dude. You're you're getting picked up, dude. We're putting you in a ████ wagon. >> Yeah. If I just felt like making a zillion dollars, I would just take every true crime story starring a woman and just add that a guy was pulling the strings at the end. >> And then I would just make so much money off those. >> Why you giving up? >> Hey, Framing the Chick and then it was the guy behind it at the end. Yeah. Minting. You're a minting. >> Oh, just change the story. just changed the names. Same story. And everyone would just prefer my version. They're like, "Yeah, I'll pay for that. Pay extra if you want the guy to be pulling the strings." >> And what's his religion? >> I think we all know. >> I don't think we all know what his religion is. >> What is this? >> What is his religion? The >> guy at the end, the guy behind it, the guy, the guy behind the guy,
14:22 >> what's his religion? >> The real one. >> His religion. >> There's only one one guy that's behind everything. >> Who's the guy behind the guy? >> They believe in Bal. Oh. Oh, okay. I thought that I mean I thought that was like a whole culture. >> J to JB B to B.
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