0:00 He's got the money. He's got the He even said and it sounds so stupid. He said it in a clip though. He's like, "Yeah, there was one cheat meal. We're on the private jet home and there was Popeye's." Like, you ████ spoiled little Popeye's on a jet. >> Yeah. Like damn, how to eat a chicken wing on the ████ PJ. >> Welcome to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have Nick Dunn with us. Har. And we also have with us uh the man responsible for this. >> No, no, no, no, no. >> Beautiful work, sir. Beautiful work. >> Not responsible at all. That's all. Uh >> that's any good coach will say that. >> I don't know, man. Yeah, you're just being a good coach, dude. No, it's it's 100%. >> You're not his coach, though. You are. >> I I assisted with some planning. >> You lived with this guy for how long? How many >> I did travel with that man for many many
0:50 a day. Many a day. >> That's That's every day. That's a different level of coaching. >> Yeah. We call him the big double O. How how much did he lose? >> We were 263 lbs. >> Wow. >> 6 months ago. >> Yeah. May or June. May or June. >> And now we look like this. >> Big double O. >> Let's go. Good for him. >> Small. >> 263. >> That's crazy, bro. >> You're about He's about to step on a scale. >> Wow. Little's bicep. >> He's got a little muscle on him. >> Okay. >> That's dope, dude. We got abs. >> Yeah. 190. >> WOW. >> YO, that's crazy. That's ████ crazy, bro. >> So, that's all natural weight loss.
1:42 >> Yeah, he did nothing, bro. So, Agent Agent's a good dude, man. Met him last year just through DMs. Turned out that he watched some of my content a long time ago. Um, for those that don't know, yeah, he's a he's a big streamer in the Twitch space and part of AM, which is like Kaisen, Duke Dennis, a big YouTube group. Um, and he struggled with his weight his whole life. I think I think he says when he went to college, he gained like a 100 pounds in a year. >> Whoa. >> Wow. >> And got up to above 300 lb. >> Um, he's a gamer. He came up in like playing 2K and making YouTube videos. Uh, in the 2K community, I think he's like a straight legend. I never really watched YouTube, so I don't really know, but um I watched some of his streams and that's how I got interested. And then January he said uh on Twitter uh if I don't get below 220 by the end of uh
2:32 this like stream, I'm giving away my Ferrari. >> Wow. >> And so that's when I reached out to him. I'm like, bro, like you got to keep that Ferrari. LIKE HOW CAN I HELP? How can I help? And so he flew Yeah. We flew out to Florida and we did a stream like that. Then uh he got down to 220 and that was more like water manipulation because we were on stream for a week so it was more of like a show. Yeah. >> Uh but then he text me and we text throughout but he text me uh spring he said bro I ballooned back up like I need help. Um and he got back up to 263. >> Whoa. >> Oh ████ >> So then I was like all right man. Yeah >> it's the lifestyle huh >> bro it's hard. Like he doesn't drink. >> Came in eating snacks. >> Doesn't drink. Doesn't do drugs. Really good dude. Travels. Like I've never traveled that much. like me, like with you guys and even me and Bart in the fitness space. We traveled a ton doing content, but nothing like these guys do. Like they'll they'll they'll fly. They literally did. They flew to Morocco for
3:22 one stream one day. >> Wa. >> And then flew back and had to stream the next day. >> Like they're they're grinders, bro. Like their work work ethic is insane. >> Wow. So they're probably just eating whatever food they can find or whatever is the best in the area. >> You're not going to door dash. And even when you're tired after a 10hour stream, are you going to make the best decision? >> Nope. >> Yeah. You're not trying to eat chicken breast, >> bro. >> But how do you find Flaming Hot Cheetos in Morocco? >> They They'll find a way. Agent's fat ass will find a way. >> They'll bring it with them. >> They'll find a way. Uh >> you'll find Moroccan Takis or something. >> Shortly after that, Kaiak called him out and said, "If you uh get abs by November, you can uh I'll give you a $100,000 car, and if you don't get abs by November, you owe me a $100,000 car." And that kind of lit the fire, and that's where this all began. So, what kind of a regimen did you put him on? >> The basics, man. The basics. So, the
4:13 thing with coaching now, because it's so popular on the internet, everyone like spits out these rules like calorie deficit, cardio, get your steps in. Like, that's all fine and dandy until you literally live a life like a rockstar, right? Like, he's in a hotel every night, traveling every night, streaming 10 hours, then a 1-hour team meeting, then it's like try to get some sleep. Then we took the first flight out every day because we had to stream the next day. So, we're leaving the house all in the car, like the the team of four, shout out my boys, uh Marcus, Keem, uh Chris, Caleb, like we just hop in the truck, go to the airport at 4:00 a.m., try to sleep again, wake up, try to get him to the gym, but he needs a nap. >> Yeah, cuz he's exhausted. >> Calorie deficit isn't going to ████ just work, right? So, it's more just about habits. So, so we broke down a bunch of step habits. He IRL streams a lot, which helps, which just means outside. So, he gets some steps in. We break down like, "Hey, bro, we're not
5:04 going to snack anymore. We're gonna have two or three square meals and eat a lot of protein. Figuring out what protein >> How do you stop him from snacking if he's so hard? >> It's hard. We literally just had to yell at him or slap it out of his hands. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Especially with 100K on the line, you know. Um >> what was a what was his guilty snack that you would had to snap out of his hand all the time? >> Nothing like too much cuz So, we got really lucky. Uh we did a month-long stream with the AM boys at Tony Parker's house in Texas and it was sponsored by Nandos. >> No way. We got Nando over there, >> bro. We had a Nando kitchen that you could just go order anytime. >> Oh my god. It was dope in the ████ house. >> Just constant chicken. >> So that was the easiest chicken and wraps. >> That'll help. >> He would have like a side of fruit, half a side of rice, and just eat chicken breast. And I did the same. I got lean,
5:54 too. The whole team was getting lean. >> Yeah, this guy's getting shredded, dude. >> We're just eating Nandos. And then there's a gym on campus. >> I wish they had a Nando here, >> bro. They're in America. I've only been to one I've only been to >> Atlanta I think Atlanta DC Chicago >> to the west coast. Come to the west coast. >> I told him uh because like the uh like head of marketing in Nandos was there. So I'm talking off stream. I'm like you guys want to murder it? Like move to Vegas. >> Put one in the bend or something, >> bro. And it was good. Yeah. So I just ate chicken breast all day, too. But yeah, it was just the basics. Couple rules like that. Lift as much as you can. You know, if you're dead, sleep's more important than a lift that day. Um, and to be honest, yeah, because uh, life happened for me a little bit. I didn't travel with him the last two months. I saw him in Hawaii in like September. Um, but he did a lot on his own, man. It was all on his own, which which like Bart and I talk a lot on oncreen and
6:44 offscreen about like discipline and consistency and ████ And people I feel like act like it's a yes or no. Like, oh, Bard, he's so disciplined. But I think it's so like subjectbased. Like he can stream every day. Agent can stream every day, but that doesn't mean like he's disciplined in his finance. doesn't mean he's disciplined with alcohol. Doesn't mean he's disciplined with fitness. Um, >> it's disciplined when you're doing the things you don't like to do. And he could do that every day, >> right? >> Yeah. >> 100%. >> If you're streaming, making a lot of money, and you enjoy streaming, that's ████ easy to show up, right? Like we see that in the NBA, >> that's called fun. >> You guys are making hella money, playing the sport they love, and then, yeah, getting drunk or doing drugs on the weekend, like, oh, that guy's disciplined. Um, but the internet kind of allowed that to be more true, right? In the 90s, supposedly Michael Jordan's an alcoholic, but you never knew, right? They put him in the spotlight and because you don't have the internet to see through. But Agent's a legitimately
7:34 good dude. And this kind of proves his discipline throughout cuz food was kind of the last the last hurdle. >> Yeah. And he has every excuse to not go on that diet. >> Oh, he's got the money. He's got the He even said it and it sounds so stupid. He said it in a clip though. He's like, "Yeah, there was one cheat meal. We're on the private jet home and there was Popeyes." Like you ████ spoiled little >> Popeyes on a jet. >> Yeah. Like damn. how to eat a chicken wing on the ████ PJ. >> So for a dude with a dude with so much money, why didn't he just like go on OMIC and just call it a day? >> Um, we never actually even talked about it. Like just the same as we joke about steroids, we joked about steroids or whatever, but um, you know, the conversations we've had offstream, health is really important. And that was the very first call I ever had with him. I told him, I was like, "Bro, you got to start to treat yourself less like this YouTube kid and more like a pro alete. Like if your health and your stress run out, your streams are going to suck and
8:25 you're going to be done in a year. Like you have the resources, you have the time. Like focus and it's going to have to be 50/50. I know stream's a priority cuz it's even harder than YouTube, right? Because you can't backlog. >> He has to go live every day. >> Yep. >> And so like I was like, I know and I know you love it and you have crazy momentum. You know, he's one of the top streamers on the planet and streaming in general is like literally the new rockstar ████ They used to say like athletes want to be rappers and rappers want to be athletes. Now it's like everyone wants to be a streamer. >> Like Rampage Jackson's streaming, >> killing it, making more money than he ever did in his UFC career. >> Khalifa's streaming, like all these people are starting to stream. I was like, "But if you don't put like 50% of that mental energy into your health, yeah, it's going to be rough, buddy." Um, and he just locked in. Yeah, we never really talked about his Olympic much. Took some creatine here and there, but even that like he would forget. I'd literally have to feel like his mom. I'd stir it and like bring it on stream so
9:16 he like drink it. Um, yeah. We never even talked about it and and I'm not against Ozmpic per se. I haven't done enough research on my own. Um but I I think it's a tool for some. It's a tool for some, but I don't think it switches the habits. It goes back to everything else. Like if you don't switch those habits, even though suppresses your appetite, like if you're a fat ass, you're still going to eat a dozen donuts >> and you'll out eat the ompic. >> You'll figure out a way. >> If you don't fix the habits, you you'll still ████ it up. >> And like why? You know, like >> people can out eat the >> Some people will out drink it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm sure >> that's that's another thing that you see too. >> Or like sodies >> or or alcohol. Like that's a big one where people are doing a Zepic and they tell you specifically like if you're doing a Zepic, don't drink any alcohol cuz your weight gain will be crazy. That'll override it for sure. >> How do some people eat candy at McDonald's and still stay ████ buff? >> I think those people actually just like
10:07 straight don't eat. >> They straight don't eat. >> So they're just at a calorie deficit. >> Yeah, they still are. Like even uh is it DK Metaf uh wide receiver? I think he said he only eats like a pound of Skittles a day or something at practice in like one meal, >> one big ass meal that night >> for sure. He's running a ton obviously. He's got a ton of muscle. He's like 6'4, 240. Um, people say metabolism, but I think that's a slightly overrated term. Um, metabolism, you know, like your resting ████ really is just your organs using calories. And the organial between me and you is so minimal. And even me, you and a 66 guy, like, sure, his heart's probably a hair bigger, but not really, you But but you're swoll though. You got muscle musles burn. Muscle is the only way. >> Burn the ████ calories. >> But even that's probably overdone too, you know? Like I do have a lot of muscle, but I can easily overeat, you know? Yeah. Muscle is the only way. Movement's the only way. The more we get on our computer, the more you're ████ Which again, most streamers uh just sit
10:59 at a computer all day. >> So, how does how does Trump eat McDonald's all day >> and say so fine >> or or Rupert Murdoch? >> You've seen those memes, right? He his doctor I think his doctor which he should be fined for this reported that he's like 63 220 and then they started putting >> No, he's like I know but that's what they reported. >> Yeah. Yeah. They had an official statement and they showed us like blood work and he's like this is the bless best blood work I've ever >> He's like he's never seen blood work like this. >> He always aces his health. Yeah. >> My HDO is through the roof. >> And then and then makes fun of whoever the reporter is that asked >> Piggy. Little piggy. Little fatty. Remember when they asked about his MRI? >> Best MRI they've ever seen. >> They've never seen imaging so clear. >> They're like They're like, "But what did you get looked at?" He's like, "I don't remember." >> Well, you just said it was the best brain. It can't be the brain. I'm sure
11:51 you wouldn't pass an MRI. >> You're not smart like me. Fatty. >> He is good. Good job with the agent though, man. That's Let's give a hand to freaking Mike. >> That's a real coach right there. There's a real coach. >> I'm really proud of him, bro. It is kind of like emotional cuz like I binge eat like I've been there and to know like how trapped he probably felt. Um and I could see it and even talking to the team and him a little bit like he's happier. >> Yeah. Cuz you said his whole life he's been overweight. >> Yeah. He's gone up and down. He's been like hecka skinny, but he's never been able to stay that way. He never had muscle. And then Yeah. You know what I mean? Like >> this is the most sustainable weight loss he's probably ever had. >> 100%. And I I already He literally It was cool. He called me that night after the reveal, like right after that clip and we chatted through it and just told him how proud I was and and I told him like the hard part's now like losing weight really is easy. >> Keeping it off. That's the battle.
12:41 Keeping it off. >> We got to set another goal whether and he doesn't want to like compete in bodybuilding or anything but like we got to get some muscle on you like have some fun >> next phase. >> Literally. Literally. >> Did you see a turning point with him? cuz I know when you first start working with people that are trying to make big changes, there's a lot of resistance at first, but then sometimes there's that one thing that like flips a switch. Did you see that with him or was it just kind of pretty much gradual with it? >> There's for sure some turning of like cuz I think he has a competitive mindset and a dedicated mindset, but it was like not knowing how hard this was going to be. So, and a lot of people did shout out Kai, like you put 100K on the line. I think that was a little bit of a turning point, >> but then that is the hard part now without the 100k stakes. How do you keep it how do you keep it going? >> And and he's so like he is a smart dude. He said the same thing on the phone. He's like now like how do I lock in like that? I'm like yeah man like you got to feel good. You got to realize how good
13:31 you feel. Um and there's clips of him like tugging on his shirt doing the fat guy tug and I think he knows how bad that feels. >> Like he's like and he he's mentioned like only four t-shirts fit him, you know, last spring. Now he can wear anything. Um, so yeah, it's it's more new habits. It's going to be tough. Um, you know, cuz you can get off the rails so easy. You It really is like an addiction. >> He's so He's so rich he couldn't get custom t-shirts or XXX. >> I think he got the XX. He's not really into clothes, though. And and and my boy Chris cooks for him. Like his COO basically cooks for him. So that's helpful. But same thing, bro. You get off stream at 1:00 a.m. >> You got your phone. >> You start scrolling Door Dash. >> What's open? Yeah, >> not the good stuff, >> but something's going to come to my door cuz I'm tired, you know? So, I do get it. >> Just stand there. So, then when he's hungry, just throw beef jerky in his mouth, >> bro. That's literally it is like having
14:22 easy ████ on hand. Even for myself, like not if I eat some junk food, it's only when I'm out. I never bring it to the house. >> It's always only one serving, right? You go get ice cream, go get a scoop of ice cream. It's little ████ like that that that can hopefully build the habits. But I'm stoked for them because every streamer talks like that. I'm going to do a transformation. I'm going to get jacked. And none of them have. None of none that I no hate out there, but I haven't seen any of them follow through on their word and he actually followed through. >> That rock, it's probably 10 times, like you said, 10 times harder living the rockstar life, man. >> Yeah, even me, bro. Like, cuz I was traveling with them every day there, dude. I think there was like a twoe span. I think we're on over 10 flights. >> And I thought I flew a lot >> and some were the same city, bro. We literally went from like Houston to Atlanta and back to Houston again. Like, it was insane. >> I thought you went Houston to Houston. Why? It was insane. Yeah, it was an insane lifestyle they lived. Give it up
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