0:00 can I pull them over just because it's for shaved heads leaving a a neighbor driving in a neighborhood a quiet neighborhood that's been experiencing burglaries at 1: in the morning no by itself no right cuz anybody can drive through any neighborhood could be four cancer patients too it could be or four monks four monks they might be coming out of the [Music] monastery welcome back to a very episode of The Care boys today with Aram Cho everybody thank you thank you Bru mon I'm going to walk out here this yeah one more you got one shot three strikes dude you're out um so no no no go ahead go please no no I was telling I was telling you're about to adopt this yeah
0:51 is that your new thing you should go into the station go to the station or you could go in you know your unmarked cars wee pull over bad guy feel free to use any of these please um so let's talk cops and racial profiling oo yeah doesn't exist done you see a guy with a turban no I they they put a they put two words racial and profile together that don't need to be there cuz profiling is profiling what is it do we gender profile do we racial profile do we height profile do we skin color yes because when you when you report a crime
1:41 you're going to tell me what that person looks like you don't and especially if it's a stranger you're going to give me broad details he was male Asian looked 30 to 35 had long hair so when I take that report and I'm on on the on the streets and I'm looking for someone D matching that description am I profil them yeah and am I profiling based on race their gender their height their hair yeah all those things but because they put a nasty like stigma stigma to it it it inhibited us from doing our job so now today cops have to do something called uh Rippa and don't ask me what it stands for racial identification something but after every enforcement context if I if I stop you and say hey Bart uh you you ran that stop sign I'm not going to give you a ticket just a warning and let you go I still have to enter your demographic of what I perceive you to be well he looks to be 25 to 35 he looks like to be a m
2:34 male Asian could be Korean could could be Korean but but we put Asian it's abroad right U specific and I guess your height and I guess your weight and I'm on my way and I have to do that for every Conta you're letting him go because he's Asian yes you're free to go my brother but that's that's where you made a mistake when you let the go you my brother crashing someone but um come me but look I work in a predominantly Hispanic Community right so what do you think my stats are going to say lot of Mexican so um so as a result if someone were to say I want I think arum's racist against Hispanics let me see his stats it's going to show 70% Hispanic what why are the overwhelming majority guys only Hispanics you want us to cut that out
3:24 how come you don't pull over Armenians no cuz I I work in a community that is 70% Hispanic so if I worked in a community like Montery Park where it's 70% Asian you're self-hating Asian man what's it going to say yeah get yourself a ████ stamp and just keep going a so the thing is you're you're you're um I don't want to say you're subject to the uh demographic you work in right um so so people will skew those stats and they will Target me and a good defense if I'm a defense attorney and I'm and you're paying me good money you as a a a defendant are going to ask me to do pull all the stops and that's going to be one of the stops that they pull isn't it true that you pull over my client cuz he's hispanic no well according to your demogra your stats you pull over 70% of the people you pull over are Hispanic and before I can even say well 70 yes or no question yes or no answer you know
4:15 and hopefully that you're thinking the prosecutor will bail you on the on the redirect and say hey is it true that 70% of your demograph is simply yes and I don't Target Hispanic people it's just 7 out of 10 people I pull over are going to be Hispanic and that's all it is does it does it piss you off when you get too C and then you can tell the lawyers just playing like the game rather than really trying to find no because you expect it maybe your first maybe your first go around it does surprise you but yeah you're desensitized you expect it so that your answers are very you know you see Court dramas and stuff and the answers are very elaborate and they go on the answers are usually like um were you a police officer on this on this date and my answer is yes I don't I don't give them any more than the qu specific question they ask me but as a result of the point I just brought up uh with with having to do it for every contact what do you think officers are
5:05 doing now more contacts or less right they're they're doing less less description you don't try to cry and stuff no dab your eyes imagine if you you don't look at the jury I mean there's a little bit of um of acting right so like one of the things I love especially because I at the early in my care now now cops have degrees but when I first started having a degree it was an anomaly for a cop and a good defense attorney will try to ter part your paper and be like and if and you know you're typing 10 15 reports a day you might make a typo and they'll say um you spelled this wrong tell me about your education because you're telling me that you know the law but you can't even do this you missed a comma here I'm like well I I actually have a master's degree and and I say it and and they they can't stop you you know it's a judge will let it go on no tell us tell you asked about his qualifications so I'm like oh yeah I
5:56 bait that I do you knuckle bump the judge no so you're specifically letting out commas and like that but like you can see if You' especially if you've been maybe testing fying for three or five years um you can kind of see so you know where your openings are to like say things that'll help if you can throw a jab right back at somebody that's trying to nail you that's like the biggest victory yeah it's a big moral Victory I always felt like racial profiling Works cuz if someone was like Hey so there's this guy he's been going to all the parks dunking Breaking All the rims and after he pulls the rims down he sings beautiful R&B songs I'm like oh that's a black guy for sure it's investigative work right you're making you're not going to blame the white guy really tall Filipino it could be a PTO Rican I was think about Armenian guy but they're very dark so I already narrowed it down to the dark people true but it it's it's going to be I mean but yes you're on
6:46 it's not that specific incident but you're on the right track right you use your investigative tools we're investigator basketball he Honey Dipped it he put his whole elbow in there I I I would assume that now problem like if you have a woke witness it's probably the most difficult crime to solve cuz you'll be like what was the description well they were like well I don't want to assume the gender so it's probably like non-binary I don't know well I don't even know about their sexual preference and were they like how tall were they why I don't want to discriminate because they might identify as a tall person but they look kind of short to me be like what's their race well I don't want to judge but like it's comedy because it's ridiculous right ridiculous so it's like how do you even describe what you see since when did me describing what I saw uh become uh racist or discriminatory right yeah it's just procedural and it's supposed to be
7:36 boring but the whole thing started because it was actually like oh let's let's grab him cuz he's black or whatever that's that was that was the real racial have you run into the problem where like usually this is only a problem because they don't like the race that you're they don't like that it's that race but has it ever happened when they're like looks like you're pulling over a lot of white guys again your numbers are off because it doesn't happen in my city right just the city I I can only talk about the city I work in but if I can compare what my experience is I can say that a lot of officers have similar experiences the only reason why i'' be pulling over an overwhelming majority of white people is if the demographic showed that right like Fashion Island right or it be Asian in that case too right d cuz whites are not considered a minorities but there's a lot of Asians too but the Asians we let go yeah yes
8:29 CCH release but if I'm pulling over Asians even if I let them go I still have to document the demographic on there right and in California everybody's got tinted windows and you don't know who you're pulling over literally until that window's down so you only pulled me over because I'm black well I didn't know honestly the first glance I had of VI cuz but but you had to you knew because of his ribs yep I had a susp and the subwoofer I saw the money Carlo I knew and in the Popeye's box in the back seat okay all right he was hungry dude he was hungry I don't know I like popey too that's true I could tell they're raced by the car they drive yeah the Jolly the scent of jollybee do you subconsciously guess which place they are though by the car they drive you have to even people can do that white Tesla what what do you think it is white Tesla Asian mom yeah white dog in the
9:19 back probably I have a buddy he's a deputy and like when we're driving he'll tell me like he'll just tell me the car just based off the car how the car looks he tells me uh what race or demo that person is and probably what he can catch him for right then and there yeah and that's a developed expertise right it's like being Dr Xavier the helmet that should be something that's complimented right bro you know just like a doctor they can you explain your symptoms oh you have this most likely you know and that's probably you know he's guessing he's not saying 100% he's not going to put $1,000 on it he's a profession but he's Pro the probability that and he's done for like 7 but when doctors do that and they get it right you know yeah great experience experienced doctor oh yeah have child support back came
10:10 in that's true cuz the doctor would be like oh you're Asian you probably got like high sodium or whatever like they could go oh this ethnic group has diabetes yeah this this guy's Filipino he may or may not have gout we don't know probably but probably does probably does too much lechon and too much Hal Halo dude yeah dude for sure you eat less rice less salt and a little bit more vegetables yeah how often does a late registration lead to like expired registration lead to something more um I don't I don't know if there's a stat for that but it does give us a tool to some to pull somebody over right so if we see a car and um you know this is going to sound like profiling but because it is you see four shaved heads and it's it's right away 1:00 in the morning call for backup right away
11:00 yeah we need the actal we need three helicopters right now can I pull them over just because it's four shaved heads leaving a a a neighbor driving in a neighborhood a quiet neighborhood that's been experiencing burglaries at 1: in the morning no by itself no right cuz anybody can drive through any neighborhood just because that neighborhood had a lot of burglaries doesn't mean it it that car right but if that car could be four cancer patients too it could be or four monks four monks be coming out of the monastery this is coming from a guy that shaves his head right but you're a monk no not today okay but if I pull that car over uh it has to be for a reason so expired registration gives me a reason and now when I make that contact can I lead to other uh Reasonable Suspicion if I look in the car and there there's
11:50 burglary tools okay well that's suspicion now that's reasonable suspicion to conduct an investigation pull them what's what's a tool that would be like a dead giveaway that doesn't look obvious to people like us if we saw it probably you know screwdrivers hacksaws for a long time uh cars were being protected through the club remember the club club uh the she still has one yeah they're great the great deterrent um because you know like the Kia were getting um hotwired really easy how do you defeat that well Club so the only way to defeat that club is to hacksaw the steering wheel and pop the club off I have another one that locks my brake that's a good one too the brake pedal and I got the club and you remember like in the '90s it was popular to get a kill switch right the little chip that you pulled out to kill your ignition but every but you know every good deterrent is good until somebody figures out a way to defeat though that's why you don't see a lot of those today so when it comes to racial
12:41 profiling in a sense so again just purely hypothetical I vote Yes what oh would I be able to ask you like uh out of all the different types of people that like you've had to pull over anything like is there like a a specific race or anything like that that gives you more of a hard time consistently Indians um they're always bargaining their sentence dude we don't do this now that's why I don't work Aria anymore know I was feeding but can you give me a parking ticket I it's an excellent question because there's not a lot of questions especially about my job that make me stop and think but but I've never really given that much of thought because it come if I get attacked people give me a hard time I I can think back of almost everybody body from every gender every race that has given me a hard time and
13:32 most of the time nobody likes to be pulled over um but I've been disrespected by everybody it's from grandmas from teenagers to everybody wow older people will discriminate a different way they thinking no less cuz you're younger than them um you know younger people they're they feel empowered because they have access to Wikipedia Pages or something I know my right say people your age and I've gotten the you just pulled me over cuz I drive a better car than you I'm like okay you know and like there just yeah so comes out of left field right field center field um you pulled me over cuz I'm in a Miata is that what it is how do you hold yourself back from not punching them through the window cuz when I watch some of these cop videos I'm like ooh BR yeah that's hard it's not fair for the new guys for me to say this uh especially since I Mentor a lot of the new guys but um when
14:23 I first started police work I remember I started in a different time um you were allowed to punch people yeah I thought you were going to say well I don't want to say alow but there was a there was an understanding um that if you put hands on a cop the cop was going to put hands on you oh yeah and it was justified right because we don't get paid even to this day we don't get paid to take punches right but there's a segment of our population that are like yes you do just like we said we don't get paid to get killed we don't get paid to get shot yes you do you knew the risks yeah we paid we get paid for the risks but we try to mitigate those risks as best as possible and sometimes that means being a good offensive player not just playing defense so I don't care how quick you are your reaction is always going to be slower than in action so I'm not going to wait for you to pull out a gun and shoot me there there was a stabbing I forget where it was oh not stabbing it was a guy that had a uh he was
15:13 shot um but he only had a knife but the guy kept reaching into his waistband he led officers on a Pursuit he crashed came out of the car and kept reaching into his waistband what are you going to think right yeah yeah so I'm not waiting for him to pull it out and and for me to react to oh confirmed it was gun 9 mm it's real it's not an airsoft okay now I can by then it's too late um so he reached he pulled something out officer shot he died um and then what ended up being was a knife two knives actually two yeah he had two knives but the other one he didn't pull what the I'm trying to think I just saw the video in briefing and I I couldn't tell you what it was uh was local s Valley Agency though have you ever had a deal with like um like a like a standoff or whatever but they were a magician no let him cook guys let him cook hold on he's about to pull the rabbit I got to see where you're going here cuz like n i
16:05 me they'll be tricky you know cuz you don't know when they're going to pull a gun oh yeah it could be a dove it just you know and then like you think they're right here and then you ████ go and then they're over here a huge growing problem in the South sounds it sounds ridiculous right but uh at our at our city we had some uh they looked like first resp first amendment Auditors you ever seen oh yeah yeah yeah they just record you the whole time so they were by the uh air TR traffic control tower of our airport and they called it in they said two guys are standing videotaping and they have guns and holsters on their on their person and um it used to be illegal um to do that but we're but you can open carry right you can you can have a a holster and a gun and it's not illegal but we still have the right the law allows us to stop and inspect it to make sure it's
16:56 compliance compliant with the magazine the type of gun and stuff like that and um that's what these people were doing trying to see if officers were going to you know give them a hard time so they were baiting you guys yes to do that so yeah kind of like in the same way a magician will like ooh yeah and for us it's uncomfortable when somebody has a weapon right um Arizona is an open carry state but it's but it's the culture there but but it's it's understood that during a traffic stop I'm going to temporarily take your weapon for your safety and mine and so we'll take they'll take the weapon put on the hood or something you know just so that the contact is comfortable cuz it's uncomfortable and then argument on their side of well well how do I know you're not going to shoot me and that's just completely Preposterous that cops are out there murdering people you know it's uh has it happened before uh maybe back in the 50s 60s where things were a different time but um in this day and
17:47 age with body cams uh car cams cell phone cams uh traffic cams um finding a rogue cop is I you got to be completely dumb and there are dumb ones how come body can't run out of batteries at the wrong time so people forget that our our shifts are at minimum uh 12 hours and we go beyond our shifts all the time why the batteries and the batteries need to set on a dock to recharge and we don't get to do that unless we come back to the station and it um so what about when the camera shuts off every time there's like a hot chick in the back seat back but the microphone's still on for some reason that that guy was a dummy that's one of the dummies I Wasing to here's so much potential though so much potential yeah and and do cops do stupid things absolutely but who are the cops they're not robots they're people you
18:37 people do stupid things absolutely
// end of tape