0:00 thank you [Music] some of you guys know smack that's um my girlfriend of Mac like seven years now she got radio videos uh yeah so my girlfriend she's a commercial actress and also does social media she's a Creator on it's funny because I'd be seeing her on commercials like yeah just from time to time I remember starting to seeing a story yeah yeah so she's she's from Australia originally and uh she what she always used to tell me about this uh she was part of this um theater group in Brisbane and the uh I think it's like the main theater group over there that they'll just do like big Productions of different plays and musicals How to Train Your Dragon well not that that's Pixar uh she she booked that and that's what got her here but
0:50 the one there they would just do local like Australia shows and like you know things like uh like Greece or you know things like that it'll just be that's who does it out there and uh she used to tell me about him and she was like yeah um so when I was part of this group uh she had a ton of like you know when you grow up around theater people you tend to have a lot of like closeted gay friends and then uh she she remembers like her and these are like her friends that she loves like they're a bunch of guys that were kind of afraid to come out because I think that theater group had some kind of connection with the church so there was a lot of pressure to not you know not come out and um that pressure also bled into uh some of the people that were the leaders so there was the main director guy who was um he was married with kids and everything and she would always tell me
1:40 about like yeah but that dude was like he was doing some stuff like uh like like he had boyfriends on the side yeah and they weren't always of age oh yikes and she would always tell me these crazy stories and I was I would Mentor yeah and I would be like dude like that's like you know that's that's not good like I mean she knows it's not good but it's also super not common like for things like that to go un uh solved like that it's just a thing in her memory and um and then she's got her own issues as well with this thing that'll probably come out later but uh a lot of her friends were victims of this guy yeah of this um the lead director who was like married with kids and and he was molesting the boys yeah and so she
2:31 had um she basically had like made this post on her socials that were kind of talking about it basically like her memory of it and like a bunch of her friends were like yeah I remember that and all these people were relating that they also um remembered these things happening this theater group had only gotten bigger and bigger and bigger so uh same director and all that same director wow over here now like very far removed from that whole thing like she has friends that are still back there doing things but as far as in this company she doesn't really I don't think she has any like closer connections with him but then yesterday she's like holy ████ like you'll never believe what happened she shows me an article and it literally says um detectives from Hendra criminal investigation branch and child abuse
3:22 sexual crime group have charged a 41 year old man with 69 offenses oh my God why 69 with that's an unfortunate number you know I mean they could have done like one more or one less about 60. but God damn they just want to be accurate though facts for facts buddy yeah facts are facts shine offenses against um uptick eight boys whoa that's crazy between 12 and 29 between 2001 and 2021. whoa and she remembers some of those boys on the list right they're still her friends today yes holy ████ they're all they're all finally getting this Justice or at least closer to it wow for this thing that she grew up and also like that that had huge effects on her like that was you know that that
4:13 was her first experience or first like interaction with um anything of sexual connotation with this exact Scandal and she you know had a hard time sort of normalizing outside of that like we would talk and stuff about like hey like you know that could have really ████ up your perspective on like What's um normal yeah or like it could have made a fear the way that she found out was that her friend was confining into her saying like I've been like assaulted by our director and then she's just like oh my God and that's the first time she heard it like or was it a rumor or do you know how it went down they were like as she was growing up like this was in her early teens she would just see these things kind of happening what do you mean like they're making out and ████ in front of her yeah they were just there would just be little things going on
5:03 here and there and then little stories like it's like your friend group imagine like when you're part of your church or something and then like all the members of the church and you spend all your time together that's your main thing and uh she would just see certain things and behaviors that are coming way too soon before you know what's okay and what's not yeah and uh and she was just she her whole like sentiment about her and her friends is they were all just super innocent like all they wanted to do was dance and perform and just be theater kids and in a lot of like theater cases that is the situation where they're just they just want to be part of it and perform and then you know somebody takes advantage and begins grooming and then you can't even tell that you're in trouble yeah like you don't even know because all you care about is the satisfaction of other people approving of you and you know like they build this like weird symbiotic relationship of
5:54 like no I don't want to disappoint you and then it becomes this thing like what's happened here and the crazy thing is I didn't think this would ever happen because she's always been like yeah you know they uh this all took place but even at the time everyone was afraid to speak up yeah and everybody was afraid nothing would get done if they did they would just feel ashamed and that news would be out and they would you know feel disgusted with them to see the director as like of someone oh he probably does have immense amount of power in that industry and yeah and leverage you know and that's the crazy thing and I would always ask her from my outside perspective I'm like how much of a ████ denialist is are these people in when uh she was she would tell me that it's so flat out in front of everybody like he eventually left his family or his wife
6:44 um and then just came out as gay and had a partner and so like okay that's a step in the direction of what you know because she always knew like oh this guy's like totally closet gay you know but then um he contained this man continued to uh be in charge of this theater group and they continued to operate and only grew bigger and um so he just molested more boys yeah and there's more and the crazy thing is is there's more than just him oh ████ oh ████ you mean there's other leaders here that are molesting kids according to according to smack he's not the only one and uh yeah and there is another guy that that's still working there there's another well I don't think that the whole thing's kind of at a halt right now because it's everything's kind of stopped for this investigation but there is one other person who's like a
7:36 35 year old guy that's that's being charged with five counts and he's someone that she doesn't know like he came later so it's almost like this thing that's been going on for decades I mean this theater company is as old as 1989 or something like that and uh maybe anything that involves kids it just attracts pedals and ████ like like they want to work where they can get ████ like that because that s███'s weird because you see it in every like ████ industry like that right yeah you hear about it all the time I mean there's def the risks are higher for sure I think in in theater or in um gymnastics like yeah gymnastics terrible risks there yeah huge risks and anything was it the Olympic doctor ████ Larry Nasser touching like hundreds of girls and ████ yeah absolutely I feel like I think it's
8:28 a respect empowered and then they don't write them out to like I'm sure with the theater when you respect somebody so bad you're like oh maybe yeah yeah I think that's a that that really when it comes down to her describing it to me it's a lot of uh you know sometimes in people's heads the person that's the Molester is not always the creep sometimes it's the most charismatic person in the room sometimes it's the coolest guy yeah sometimes it's the most like uplifting like person you want to be around and then when no one else is around and you're one to one damn you get a different perspective of who they are and you also don't want to uh ruin the relationship and it's a lot of pressure on young people to like especially in a in a situation where uh their favoritism of you it could be celebrated like people go oh he loves
9:18 you oh you're so lucky like the director loves you like you know it's a it's a point of Pride yeah it it's a bad recipe basically if you have one wrong ingredient but that's the thing though right like guys like that or just people like that in general they are predators they know how to work that game they know how to like manipulate people and that's what they are at the highest level right they are manipulators they know how to be in front of people and be charismatic they know how to do all the right things all the right notes but then behind closed doors they know how to play those heart strings on on the people that they're pressurable exactly yeah in their heads they might be like we're in love you know like it's a secret love affair that you guys don't ever understand I'm keeping the secret like they're manipulated they don't ████ know until later they get older and they're
10:08 like hold the phone dude that ████ was like wrong you know who was even saying that like once she posted this article on her social and her friends who all like kind of already know this ████ that they're still to this day people that were involved in this are like who do you think they're talking about oh my God and there's such ████ Advanced denial that it's like they are still willing to say I wonder who it is even though they were a part of it exactly sometimes denial is convenient you mean the victims are denying it or no just like other people that were that were in the like uh collaterally involved even from a like a like a victim perspective like imagine there's there's like maybe trying to seek justice but like
11:00 sometimes at what cost if you feel like comfortable in your skin like at a later point in your life to like bring it up or to make something public you know what I mean or to like to even just dive back into that it's like look I spent like half of my life trying to get out of it like now it's now it's being uncovered and there's Justice to be sought but at what cost to to even confront it means that everybody in my ecosystem today has to be aware and understand and you relive it in a more public way yeah you know what I'm saying that's judgment from other people yeah so it can be probably like pretty pretty just harsh on the mind is all you know oh yeah yeah it could be mindful that's what that's what smacks thing is is like uh it's pretty crazy to know that like so in our early years of of us being together that's always been a thing that I understood was like a personal trauma first I'm like the time that she had went through this and like
11:51 the hardship that it must have taken for her to figure out what was actually correct um and and then years later after thinking oh that's just the past like hey if you know I I always told her too I'm like hey like if you if you're healed from that we don't gotta ████ revisit it or like we don't have to talk about it like it's fine like that's if you're good and life is good then I'm not gonna be like go back there and find them and prosecute like yeah whatever dude but she's like she's like yeah I think it's good like we're you know and then this happened it's like and you know what's crazy is the number is way the ████ higher than she even thought so that means that like and now in her mind is she wants the rest of them going down too because if you don't that number will keep going yeah because they're still there because they're still there
12:42 and some of them have moved on to other companies and other areas where there's a whole slew of new kids that don't know ████ the Catholic Church yep yeah that that's different that's like you know uh unfortunately a call to social responsibility when you like have some sort of knowledge or an understanding that could potentially prevent like harm to like other people you know innocent people too I I um don't want to self-incriminate myself but when I was a little bit um uh more on the dangerous side of before JK and all this stuff when me and my friends would hear stories about things like this um we didn't go to the authorities we allegedly we allegedly we we met like just for imagination hypothetical fun times yeah we uh JK Funtime stories we
13:34 returned various favors and that was a really satisfying point in my life that I was like this is the type of things that I like to do um and like I felt like Batman a little bit but then like we all knew and they knew and I don't know if that stopped though but at least I know that my friends who got assaulted got their uh retribution Revenge yeah and one of our character um techniques was to um burn eyebrows so like you knew that people walking around with burnt eyebrows were rapists wow that's so after we were this is just imaginary comic book like like if it happened you know what I mean like I didn't do anything myself if if like you know going back to the scenario like if what would be the weapon of choice to to burn
14:25 off eyebrows would it be like lighters oh yeah just like Batman at the end that's again at the end you know like and then when you walk when you saw the guy at school or or just walking around hypothetically with burnt eyebrows everyone in the community kind of knew that um they did something wrong to women yep especially women in our Circle right yeah yeah Japanese and that's the sad thing is sometimes that's all some people have because they it's out of the question for some people to go to Authority sometimes especially when you're young you don't know how to yeah you don't really know what to do yeah exactly so that's what's ████ up and I feel like that helpless weird feeling you know like you you don't have any that's why it's so important to have violent Brothers sometimes oh my God I I would wish there was a Japanese Batman
15:15 at my school seriously that would be so nice that's a good because like if the teacher asks what's your One Wish Jason Japanese Batman please yeah I mean again like not everybody has a Japanese Batman or a Australian Superman do they name the guy in the article in the article uh they do not name him uh not in this article because they're still investigating um I think that name will be coming real soon um and maybe schmack will come and like tell us more about it at some point but it's it's a huge I think like what a milestone in your own life to have a personal like demonized era finally come
16:05 to life and in this way like it was last night that she showed me this how old was she when she left this company when she left well when she left uh she was 18. got it damn yeah I might take a visit to Australia and you might see some burnt eyebrows it's Japanese Batman
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