0:05 Hey, welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys where we were just talking about >> They're all alive. You're coming with me. >> [laughter] >> RoboCop Maybe a little bit of Bloodsport. Maybe a little bit of Vietnamese RoboCop. >> Vietnamese >> Because you just showed Taika all three RoboCops. >> Yeah, so me and Geo had a conversation. This whole thing arose when we're like, "Okay, you know, there's a problem with the kids these days where they're soft, they're weak." >> So let's show them RoboCop. >> Well, so we're like, "What what's the difference? What what's up with all these like weak, soft kids and like >> They're not getting beat. >> Yeah, soft [clears throat] parents. And you see all this gentle parenting stuff, you know, happen at the playground where like a kid like falls off a jungle gym and the mom's like, "We're never coming here ever again." >> RoboCops And then they sue the city and then they ruin it for everybody. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Whereas like our era was like, "Dude, just get up and go play again or go do
0:56 it again or walk it off or whatever, right?" And then so uh we're just talking about our upbringing and we're like, "Dude, is it because there are no alpha male figures in the content? Cuz like us growing up, it's like Sylvester Stallone or Bruce Lee, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. And then these days they just got like Mr. Beast like, "Oh, look at I I can give away $10,000. Oh my god, look at this." And then they're [laughter] like, "How is that guy supposed to teach you to be a man, right?" Like this It's like So we're like, "Okay, we got to like >> Teach you to give your wealth away. >> We got to indoctrinate this guy into some real ████ So, you know what? I just found out maybe I'm pretty good at gaslighting, too. Cuz we found out yesterday Anthony's really good at gaslighting Nina. >> [laughter] >> And I'm And I'm good at gaslighting Geo into watching rated R stuff with Taika. So that was my pitch.
1:46 >> We got to do a different episode on how we gaslight our partners. >> you gaslight your wife? >> So So that was the pitch and then she was like, "F███ it, let's do it." And then so we watched RoboCop 1. >> Yeah. >> It was really good, actually. And then we watched cuz it it gets deep and it's I'm like, "What are the It gets pretty deep, dude." >> [laughter] >> And then No, no, cuz as a kid >> You've been after all. >> [laughter] >> The You know, like the thing is you think it's it's about like human cyborg, whatever, but it really isn't. It's about if you have a honest, pure city, will it actually work versus a crooked capitalist corporation that comes and owns the city? What is actually better? And I'm like, "What the ████ I don't remember this ████ when I was five." >> But you sacrifice the integrity of the city. >> Exactly. And then so there's Robocop 1, 2, 3. But as we're watching it with Taika and you can see like you know when
2:37 you >> It's pretty violent. >> Yeah, dude, there's ████ eyeballs, guys getting shot and their brains exploding. And me and Gio keep looking at each other in between like, "Oh, ████ I don't know if we should be turning it off at any like at at any time." But you could see like you know that feeling we had as a kid where you're like, "We got to do the right thing, man." Like uh you can see that in him. Like, "Oh, I hope he goes back and avenges his partner." >> Okay, so he has a sense of justice then. >> Yeah, and I think that helps out with like these like super weak soft ass ████ these days. >> Did any part of it Did any part of it like creep him out or scare him or it was too much for him at all? >> A lot of it. But he he wanted to uh he wants to keep seeing it. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> You guys remember Robocop being scary as a kid? >> No. >> No, and then I rewatched it and I was like, "God damn, dude." Like when that when that ████ big robot malfunctions and shoots the ████ out of that
3:27 executive, I was like, "That's a lot of shots." [laughter] >> Dude, it's ████ great. You This guy gets Jesus him so hard. A ████ three hole punched by >> [laughter] >> Yeah, dude. >> back of his back is ████ bursting with all red and I'm like, "Dude, this is the first five minutes of this film, dude." It's like a Mortal Kombat fatality. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, like this ████ Like, "Holy s███." >> Oh, that's right. It's red red is the freaking bad guy. >> Yeah, forgot about that. >> You [laughter] got robot position, dude. That was so sick. >> You know what's dope though? I think because this is supposed to take place in the future, >> Uh-huh. >> every RoboCop actually has hella Asians for um this ERA MOVIE. >> OH, SO THEY PUT on so they put on a good amount of Asians there. >> Cuz there's no there's not really Asians in movies that much. >> Unless it's like all Asian.
4:17 >> Yeah, but every single RoboCop has a >> primitive >> Oh, that's tight. Heck yeah. >> A primitive primate Asian. >> [laughter] >> Primitive primate Asian person. >> Primate >> Yeah, it I I remember re- >> This ████ is getting ████ up. >> [laughter] >> You see his eye and ████ >> The new RoboCop sucks. >> Yeah. >> I didn't see that one. >> I didn't see it either. But yeah, this is our way. >> But yeah, you're right. I think like the if we were raised on movies that were really violent and had almost kind of boneheaded plots where it's very clear that like bad guy needs to die, good guy needs to win. >> Yeah. >> Like it is a good way to teach kids that like whole like get rid of your softness kind of stuff, right? >> It's always the same like here's this like uh unclimbable hill, >> Yeah. >> but you have to do it for the right thing.
5:07 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> I don't know when it changed though because it's like who the ████ ████ it up in between our parents and then now it's like in between that generation of then now it's our turn to have kids, right? So then it's like somebody in between ████ it all up. >> Well, I feel like everything was like right, wrong, good, bad, evil, you know, like like if you're watching things like ████ Power Rangers to Beast Wars to Pokémon to like Yeah, everything has like this kind of it's violent, so to speak, but it's like there's always like a beat the bad guys or like >> Yeah, we wanted to be crime fighters. >> But like do they have that now? >> They say is a really clear answer to what you asked. >> It's um it's politics. So it's anytime somebody needs to run and they need to win women's votes, they say something's violent. So that way they get the
5:58 empathetic, you know, because people vote women vote on empathy more. And if you say like, "Oh, like our kids are becoming violent, they're committing crimes because of these things they're consuming." Then they just get a scapegoat and a lot of time it's video games, it's violent movies, it's like war movies. And then those things just kind of like get uh almost like ostracized. >> I see. >> Yeah. >> Probably. [laughter] >> They ████ ████ up, bro. >> [laughter and gasps] >> But yeah, that's the thing I've always heard. Like like when it Hillary Clinton was like running for um like not for presidency, but when when she's running in like local politics, all they did was like she talk about Mortal Kombat or she'd talk about like different like games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like Oh yeah, a lot of these politicians would would point at Mortal Kombat almost annually. Like, "All right, it's time to talk about Mortal Kombat because it's easy not because it's bad at all.
6:50 It's just easy to show a woman who's never seen it and appall her instantly and win her vote and go like, "See, this is what I'm against." >> That's why it's tight, though. That's what makes it cool. Like when they show the AR, it's a semi-automatic. And then people are like, "Semi-automatic!" You're like, "Dude, you know there's full auto out there." >> Right, right, right, yeah. >> That's true cuz my cousin when she was raising her boys, um they weren't allowed to play guns, they weren't allowed to do any violent stuff. So it's probably that generation. So that's like what generation X? >> But what So the father said that, too? Or just the mom? >> I think generation X dads were pretty like, "I'm just going to work." >> The thing is I only see >> not really Like some of them are involved, but not like millennial dads. >> I only see dads act like that when they're the kind of dad that's under the mom. You know what I mean? Like >> Yeah, yeah. Kind of like
7:40 >> not the leader of the house, he's kind of like the ████ ████ a little bit. You know that you know those dads that are just kind of like They don't wear the pants. Yeah, they're just kind of like, "Oh, your mom said uh" It's a little bit like yeah, obviously there's not going to be violence or guns or anything. >> I don't think he even liked this content. So, it made sense where it was probably easier for he's like, "Yeah, I don't really care for it and I'm just going to work." So, like >> We don't have that straight action male hero as much anymore. >> then we got Mr. Beast. That's what I'm talking about. Like we don't have nobody else. Like who who >> Yeah. Thinking everything was about like fighting crime and being a hero. Like if you think about comic books, right? Or like even Batman, everything is I'm going to be a good guy and fight crime. Even GI Joe and ████ like that. Evil people, we're going to fight them, right? But yeah, what is the young
8:32 reference of that? >> That's specifically yeah, like >> It doesn't exist. >> And when did it stop? Yeah. Like like we had freaking all the Hong Kong action heroes. We had >> Karate Kid, he's a kid, but it still has like way more like this alpha feel. >> I'm going to beat up bullies. >> Yeah, than anything else we see these days. >> Yeah. Did any Did your guys' dads like this >> type of stuff, too? >> Hell, yeah. My grandma liked this ████ I [laughter] You know what? My grandma liked My grandma put me on Charles Bronson. [laughter] >> Yo, that's Charles Bronson movies are crazy. >> All you all you young ass cats like, "Well, I'm Charles Bronson was old for us, too." But he would be on daytime TV and then so my mom was like, "Is it good for him to be watching this?" And then my grandma's like, "Well, I'm scared and I need something to cuddle." So, she's going to have me as a ████ little 6-year-old
9:24 that when she's scared of watching Poltergeist or whatever, she has me that she's holding. So, [laughter] I'm like I'm a stuffed animal. So, I'm watching this ████ Grew [snorts] up on ████ Charles Bronson, Poltergeist, all that crazy ████ >> Yeah. Wait, we probably also as a side note we probably can't play this very long. >> You know what's really sad about this movie, too, I realized? So, this movie, uh Robocop, all three of them are based in Detroit, but you can clearly tell it's shot in LA. >> [laughter] >> Uh 6th Street Bridge, 7th Street, 8th Street, around all those bridges, right? And what's crazy is Do you know when people had that cheesy '80s make it look ████ up, like here's a barrel with uh with fire in it and graffiti and like a cardboard box is being blown by the wind? >> Yep. >> They try to make it look ████ up.
10:14 That's literally what LA looks like right now. >> Uh yeah. >> And I'm like, "Damn, that's crazy." They didn't even need art direction. >> This was the future. This is the future. [laughter] >> Right, dude. Robocop was right. >> Yeah, they were they were right. I remember LA always looking ████ up. >> [laughter] >> But there was a time when they cleaned it up in the 2000s. Yeah. And then they ████ it up again. >> I know. All good real soon. >> Mhm. >> But do you remember like I Okay, back then, you know how people go, "Oh, you know, life was better. It was more safe." and all that and I was like, "I actually think it was the opposite." I think it was there was more crime, there were more like violence like straight up, but then that's probably why the content of like vigilanteism and all that ████ made sense cuz people probably were feeling unsafe. >> Well, visually LA looks way worse than
11:05 it did before cuz it's so bad where when uh Tyco was watching Robocop and he has no like context of, you know, how LA is or whatever, right? But in the first like shootout scene he goes, "Oh, that's grandma's house." Cuz you know the alleyway next to Gio's mom's house? Like a burnt out warehouse with rusty beams and just homeless people walking around and he goes, "Oh, that's grandma's house." I'm like, "OH, S███." >> [laughter] >> I'M LIKE, "DAMN, DUDE." AND HE does knows nothing. He's brand new to this earth. Yeah, dude, you've been showing him the good life. I know. Dang. He didn't grow up with the Rodney King riot ████ I know, that was crazy. God, yeah. The thing you were saying though is a real It's a real dilemma that that uh Hollywood's talking a lot about. There's no like man figure that's going to outlast the same way that like Brad Pitt, Sylvester Stallone, like they don't have that. Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt
11:55 era, this they're at the end. You can see it in their ████ Botox. Yeah. It's just them, yeah. So, they're like trying to find the new that guy because like most guys that are in Hollywood, like what's that one guy who's like the heartthrob and everything? Henry Cavill? >> Timothée Chalamet? >> guy, the the guy from Twisters 2. >> Oh, Glen Powell? >> Glen Powell, yeah, like they they're banking on him being one of the closest that they can do, but he's such more of like a rom-com dude still. He's not like yeah. >> And there's one. When we grew up, there's like 20 guys to choose >> Yeah, like The Expendables. Yeah, like Chuck Norris to like anybody. >> For this era for James Bond, I'll give it to him. >> What about Jason Statham? >> But all these guys are at the end, you know? [clears throat] >> Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Looks like he's just collecting checks, man. >> Dude, yeah, cuz >> Nicolas Cage? >> There's no like ambitious figure like [laughter] like what we used to have.
12:45 >> Henry Cavill? I think he the the older Superman, not the new Superman, but >> be prominent, you know, like this day and age. In 2026, there's no millennial and and Gen Z. You got Mr. Beast and all these other ████ streamers and ████ I actually You got Neon. >> [clears throat and laughter] >> Yeah, well, we're how old were those guys when they came into the game? Like all the action heroes, were they in their 20s or 30s? >> Van Damme was [clears throat] in his 20s, yeah. >> I mean, Arnold was like winning freaking those championships in his like teens. >> different too, which I think like uh a lot of people don't notice is that a lot of these guys had their start in uh film studios that were highly indie. Like Golden Globus who's who who put on Van Damme on. And it was like they weren't putting Van Damme in like huge
13:35 productions. They were putting him in like ████ B movie ████ All these guys had like B movie roots. And then they got like moved up and up and up. But like who The thing is if you don't have that studio, then you don't have that guy. >> Do you think action movies got like the people got too smart where like they're watching this ████ and they're like laughing at the people getting shot and stuff and like it's not real enough? >> I don't know cuz then you have Fast and Furious still raking in ████ millions and millions and it's and it's you know they they're self-aware ridiculous. >> Yeah. Like people they just enjoy like >> John Wick's like art. >> Yeah, they know it's a different world and it's own thing. >> Yeah. Yeah, John Wick's like >> aren't growing up watching it and going, "Man, that's bad. I want to be like that." >> No. >> I mean John Wick is pretty >> John Wick's freaking amazing, yeah.
14:26 >> But even him he's their era. >> That's true. Yeah, he's a throwback dude, too. Yeah. >> So there's no new new >> Yeah, I think it I think if there was an A24 that was specifically focused on stuff like that, then you could probably have a better shot of it. But there's no studio that's Yeah. >> Is there even an appetite [laughter] for it though? That's what I'm wondering. >> Yeah. I think there's always an appetite for whatever's defiant. And right now we're leaning towards everything's so soy-infused. All the scripts are so Jewish. You know, it's like we need one of these things. >> [laughter] >> Everybody does like high rocks and everybody's like a superhero right now already. You know what I mean? Whereas I think during the action hero time, I don't think like all the men were just superheroes walking around on the street. But like everybody's hella ripped nowadays. Like do you think that changes anything? >> Maybe, but back then there were more
15:16 guys that were actually came back from war. So I think maybe that has something to do with it. Like, more veterans, more >> That's true. >> [laughter] >> I feel seen. >> More guys that actually went to war. We were always in some wars, too. So, >> superhero ████ >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> So, it could be that where they're like >> more in another war. >> Yeah. >> Maybe it will have a whole research
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