0:00 so the way that they policed was a lot more hardcore they grab you throw you take pictures of you you from a gang and this is before I was but then I think it manifested and I end ended up in the street gang me I am now I am now [Music] station take it away Steve okay very curious about your thoughts on all this immigration stuff going on we're seeing border patrol I'm sure you know people in Border Patrol obviously the our border has been just swiss cheese everyone can get through what do you think about this situation yeah I think so my opinion comes from a place of empathy because my my family immigrated here my grandfather had to earn his right to be a citizen before he came into America and he did that through the military there's a pathway through that he earned it and I
0:51 have personal friends that waited a long time saved a lot of money and you know did the student visa thing and and did their work visa eventually thing and then became citizen it was like the day they the day they became citizens was like the proudest moment for them and I attribute that to like the difference between like your parents giving you a car or you earning that car saving up for it don't you relish that so much more and I think you that's why people develop you could be an Italian citizen for 30 years earn your way to America and now you love nothing but America right because you valued what you earned here you came here with that and you developed a sense of patriotism wanting to serve and I think you missed that when you are given a free pass at anything not just immigration but um you know gifts that's true there's more immigrants sometimes with American flag jumpers than people that were born here
1:42 yep I see more truck knots on immigrant Trucks Than on American and and then conversely you have people that were born and raised here that burn American flags too right so it doesn't discriminate or it doesn't associate with one group it happens with Americans it happens with non-americans it just depends on what side but I do think there needs to be increased border security I that's one thing it's a Civ uh just being in my profession lots of drugs lots of people uh human trafficking human trafficking yeah occurs at the borders and it happens at the areas that are unsecured and so when you leave San cidro or uh San Diego the Border there and you go further east you'll see gaps I mean you can be in El Paso Texas and look over and you're in you see is Mexico and you don't know where the border is there no delineation it's just a road and when and it's so desolate out there there's only like 30 police off there's no border patrol virtually so if you're running drugs or
2:34 people through the city what are you going to do you're going to pick those unsecured areas of the border is the wall an answer I don't know I think walls look ugly but I do think that needs to be uh continual checkpoints or something um I have a wall between me and my neighbors and I dig it yeah right I mean I mean it gives you a sense that's your land that's essentially your your your kingdom right there and it's not saying you're not welcome but there is a process for you to come over if you want to you want to come over and have have dinner and break bread with my family you got to earn that right right we got yeah you got to know parkour so yeah I or you got to know about wz oh yeah yeah there just a r oh you got to be a ninja oh you got be a ninja yeah ninjas can get anywhere they can get in anywhere but there are people that um you know we if you if some people don't know this but America takes in uh most of the world's immigrants America brings in most of the world over
3:25 half right yeah uh overwhelmingly more than half um that's a lot of immigrants and and it's and it's a lot of them are Asylum Seekers so there are some s█████ parts of the world where they need help and we we welcome them with open arms I mean this country was formed because of people fleeing their their Bad Neighbor their bad countries so there is value in that but if your intent is to come here to take advantage uh and victimize Americans then we need to be able to way to screen that so I'm not saying everybody has to earn their right but there should be some sort of screening process if you've committed a crime in America and we deported you and you come back we're going to think twice about letting you back in right um seems reasonable yeah I I think it is but there are Taylor wanted to screen people for different reasons but uh you know it's it's it's a heated argument because you because
4:16 there so many people that are bleeding hearts you know rightfully so for people that are victimized but not everybody coming here is a victim they intend to victimize yeah well most well and you guys are aware right like go go for it oh I was just going to say most people that are coming here that are like Refugee status or whatever right and we have friends and family members that came here as that they're not criminals right they're all just hardworking honest people that just want to make a living right but every single wave of new poor immigrants there is the few that come with the criminal element we've seen it with the Irish we've seen it with the freaking Italians we've seen it with CU like every single group every single group is not without a criminal element that terrorizes their own community and even more specifically I've seen border patrol guys talk about how they've seen
5:07 kids who come through unaccompanied they're there with like addresses and like they have serial numbers tattooed on them yeah that's not a conspiracy that's Harding Mexican kids but if you said that to a group of nonbelievers right people that didn't fact check that you're you're conspiracy theorist you're paranoid but that's border patrol saying that but because they're tied into a government entity part of the they're part of the oh they yeah but we're we're we're seeing right now did you know it's the biggest time in in the world's history of human trafficking it's like people people think it was a oh well back in you know the American colonial days or no right now we have the most it's crazy I me it's also what qualifies as human trafficking Figaroa Street's human trafficking yeah sex slaves like work slave yeah you can thank the
5:57 internet for that too I mean people are entering chat rooms young guys you know gang initiatives gang init initiates traines gang traines for lack of a better word they're their big brother hey you want to be part of this I need to talk to this this girl they'll develop a relationship and when they go to finally meet them big brother comes and now they're part of this you know they get branded you know they get tattooed and that happened to my jerk bud when I was growing up I had a jerk Bud online and he yeah he got taken one to wow I think from a citizen's perspective one thing that doesn't seem fair is um the recent immigrants whether they come here legally or illegally but they get granted all kinds of crazy rights or like benefits you know like for the longest time they're like a lot of veterans were fighting for like uh homeless initiatives or whatever and then they people like there's that new
6:47 um what is it called there's that Center for homeless people and then there's the uh New York City yeah you get like now you can get a gun if you're if you're and they give you a card with money loaded up but that's also a conspiracy theory if you don't read certain News Channel yeah I mean I'm all for helping others when you can right but if you can't take care of your own house first yeah how are you know if like if my family is starving but someone's asking me for a handout I as much as I want to give it to them I have to take care of my family first and America has to view view things the same way it's like we have our own problems yet we're giving billions to the Ukraine and whatever right yes we should there's we need to help people it's our responsibility as the greatest nation in the world to help people and we have ways to do it other than monetarily we can give military support and there's budgets for that but to just clear uh general fund money for
7:37 something that's emerging to their country other nations need to step up we can be the leader and say hey we'll give a portion if you give a portion if you give a portion but for us to take it single-handedly while we have veterans that are homeless on the street we have we you know neighborhoods that are decrepit and run down that we should be putting our own money in investing our own money in and it sounds crash it's not selfish but if you look at it if you give it if you compare it to your own home it makes a whole lot of sense what was the thing that you were telling us about uh illegal immigrants are going to be allowed to become police officers yeah so in California uh in order to be one one of the qualifying factors to be being eligible to police offer officers you had to be a citizen yeah and um as a matter of fact when I came up you had to have been able to achieve citizenship within two years of being appointed as a police officer so the governor signed a bill that said
8:30 non-citizens can now be police officers kind of not revolutionary because you could always be a non-citizen and be a police officer as long as you can qualify within 2 years um and then but now he's saying you never have to be a citizen wow but think about who those people are there are people that because you know there's some countries that that have bad organization don't come with papers so they were maybe born in this city or in the country to noncitizens and there was no way to verify that information right maybe they were born at home and and they were never established they don't have citizenship but they grew up American they went to American schools had American friends uh American jobs and was and contributed to society and why shouldn't those guys work so someone like maybe even DACA kids that are basically American culturally American
9:22 why shouldn't cuz if we really truly want people representative of the communities we work in to be police officers we need to consider them too yeah that brought an uproar to the far right right saying uh no illegals are going to well honestly if they're illegal and they're recent they're not going to speak English they're not going to be able to they can't pass a test yeah they can't pass a test and you know if they and if they work hard to learn the language and and and learn the culture and adopt American values and want to be a police officer then why not give them a chance that's how my grandfather became a citizen he he made his pathway through the Army do you think they don't understand like the Nuance of it because they don't know people like you cuz I'm imagining some guy that's living in a white town and he his image of immigrant is like a GU a guy that just came fresh from the border and he goes we're going to let
10:13 these guys be cops right and not people like you know subin or like people that we know that are culturally American they've been here since they're like one years old or whatever and then but there's still immigrant status yeah two of the major major contributing factors to prejudism prejudism Prejudice is ignorance is number one and past experience right uh you might have a bad experience with One race and now you've labeled the entire race right that and that also stems back to ignorance that's me and blueh hair people I don't like them and that's the thing Cal we're so lucky in California that we have this Melting Pot of people um like honestly I didn't know I was Asian cuz everybody else was a minority in their own right we were just didn't have racial things until maybe Junior High in high school where we made fun of
11:03 each friends did on a friend you didn't have feelings back then you just made fun of me and um but when you go to out outside of this you know my wife is Caucasian and she has family in Wyoming and Tennessee and Mississippi and when we go there it's different they don't see families like us we were in a Cracker Barrel not a Cracker Barrel a Waffle House Cracker Barrel sounds funny in white towns they're all in white towns though we went to a waffle house and our kids were little and um it was like a movie scene when you walk in the Juke box scratches and everybody stops the plat drop they stared at us and then the waitress is like don't pay any attention to them and sat us down and it was uncomfortable tell you that yeah so I I said do you not get a lot of Asian no we get Asian people what is it we just don't get a lot of and mind you we had there's a lot of mixed race couples in that restaurant at the same time black and white they had just never seen an Asian in white before so it's it's what
11:53 you don't see you're you scored it's different and I just came back from my wife's uh it was we did our 20 year anniversary we went to North Carolina and spended in my wife's Farm or my wife's grandmother's Farm in elen North Carolina which is like elen El it's like whoa never even heard of it in my life 10 people are in the entire town and um she uh we wanted to go to lunch so we go to this place for lunch and there's like literally six booths I'm sitting at the far back Booth with my wife and the menu items were great BLT is $150 right what the and Before Time and um two old ladies facing a away from each other that lady facing me staring at me and the lady facing away from me just turned over and is just staring hardcore and I remember back to that Waffle House in just we're different they've never seen us before yeah so I got off a play in Taiwan same
12:44 ████ dude they're looking at me going holy ████ ████ and and they actually asked to take a picture of me and I was like cool but yeah they had never seen like a big white dude before when you're different you're unfamiliar and you're going to go one way be I don't even know if it comes from a place of hate cuz like um my brother went to like a mechanic school out in Wyoming and we went to go on a road trip and visit them and my parents tell me the story all the time cuz they're like you know when you're a toddler like we went into this gas station and you were just speaking to the gas attendants and and everybody and I guess the family owned the station lived in the back they brought all their cousins and everybody and said come over here there's a China boy speaking English and they my mom was like they were so amazed that I was speaking perfect English and they just didn't even know that like there were Asians
13:34 that were born in the states yeah and Joe's back there he's like in Japan like if you were of a certain age you could just tell them all the facts yeah and like I'm just sitting on the counter they're like giving me free candy and ████ they're just sitting around so tell us about your China life so you can get property in Japan yeah do you know Chinese and Japan are separated by body of water yeah I guess and then I guess back then it's like it's just there's no internet you drive into town like this is in the early '90s maybe late ' 80s right and she was just like yeah and in my brother when he went to mechanic school there he said the same thing like most of his classmates just wanted to ask him a thousand questions and this is like in our lifetime I mean we can relate that to me being a cop right you guys asked me cuz you don't have access to it's a different world and and yeah
14:24 some sometimes it comes from a place of wanting understanding but sometimes it comes from a place of ignorance and Hate we have we have two different groups of people and so you have to be ready for both like when you brought up this story my dad one of the few Army stories he told me was he was in Fort pke Louisiana in boot camp 1974 he was the smallest guy the only Asian in his group he was like 5 six you know 150 lbs and his best friend was the biggest cornfed white boy right it was Thanksgiving my dad had nowhere to go cuz the his parents and were in Korea and um so he decided to go with his friend to Virginia on where they live on an Apple Farm and S they're going down row miles and miles and rows of apple farm he comes from a well-off family and in front of this this house the whole family's waiting for him and the mom goes straight to my dad and picks him up like he's a little rag doll starts kissing him all over the face so he's a grown
15:16 ass man that's like Mike Tyson with has bu have you seen that ████ oh yeah exactly that's exactly what he like yeah he's like oh he's like a little like the p b do boy so he's a grown ass man yeah no what you just said though about like you know about you and us and talking to a cop it's just cuz you're so forthcoming because for example I was raised around the toughest son of a ████ I've ever known my grandfather he was a lieutenant colonel of Marines I've talked to you more today than I ever talked to him in like my whole life but that generation was like that right reserved went to war saw ████ didn't want to talk about it wanted to just say all what huh and I'm just one critical incident away from maybe being that guy too right I've seen a lot of ████ in my life personal level and work life but um you know through the grace of God I I have a tremendous
16:07 faith and it's therapeutic for me to talk about it so it's awesome I appreciate it though man honestly seriously thanks for listening yeah yeah I grew up in an era where uh there was a huge strain on the community between cops and us but also I also think that's what pushed a lot of people in our generation to join gangs and stuff too kind of similar I'm you know same area Mark Keele I went to Mark Keele I moved out well I grew up in Gardina moved out here when I was 14 went to mark kle That's why I heard oh alhamra yeah same era G Asian gang infested and I think like there was a distrust between the communities and also all the San Gabriel Valley it was all white cops and all Asian people so the way that they policed was a lot more hardcore they
16:58 grab you throw you take pictures of you lift up your shirt you from a gang and this is before I was but then I think it manifested and I ended up in a street gang hey remember me I am now I am now now you can take a picture now okay you're right you weren't right before but now I am but like you said back then uh it doesn't matter if you were a a good kid like from the Key Club it didn't matter if you were actually a thug they looked at everybody as a bad kid they're just shaking the whole Community down but I do think fast forward now we have a more diverse group of cops and they police differently it's not so heavy-handed but maybe back then it they needed to maybe I'm just taking it personally I just think it was a different era you know and and maybe the crime the criminals there were were crazier they shot back I know cops got
17:49 killed because they would pull people over and they get shot out in the face so I'm just like okay also gang stuff was just cool back then everybody was in the gang or Associated or every or yeah was trying to be yeah and I was like there influencers are cool like I know a guy that went and did a shootout and all that and then became a freaking good student at at uh u u UCI so it's like I think yeah and I think during that time too they didn't know that Asian gangs existed so what I heard later on was that there was a huge like shock to the department like oh my God we got to catch up we we we don't know what's happening but yeah I don't know if that was actually the case but that's what I heard yeah I don't know if you got called to a house for like some some ████ like oh lady domestic disturbance whatever the ████ you you you enter the
18:39 room it smells kind of old like books or some ████ and then you look around you're like holy ████ there's like 3,700 bootleg movies in here and there's this old Marine Corp Grandpa you you get on there and go here we got s███████ of bootleg ████ I me you tri eyes what's important now right I mean things that are bootleg they're only illegal because people profiting from them if it's his own personal collection I'm not going to mess with them well he used to distributed them heavily free to the community the good thing is motion picture uh the whatever they call them it's FBI warning oh yeah yeah they need enforce that theirselves yeah that's FBI is so you leave that alone you just focus on that's FBI warning yeah not warning all the kiosks of movies around they called it Miller Buster by the way like there was so many ████ movies my grandpa burned yeah
19:29 but isn't it crazy that when you first see it it's a FBI warning I took that ████ so serious I thought that was worse than drug dealing cuz I'm like oh that's the FBI you might as well deal drugs so my dad was an honest guy as his video shop but and we were getting killed by all the neighboring video shops um the Asian on someone dropped the dime though and they did FBI did come really they shut those ones down so for a little while my dad was the only Mom and Pop video store and then did he do it legit yeah he was legit and for a little while we were excited because DVDs were coming out right so we were in the first place to do DVDs what opened across the street Blockbuster Video oh D they were B they were Street Busters don't worry they went they went down too yeah but they went down by ████ Netflix just to sum just to sum this up I just wanted to ask
20:19 so the um illegal immigrants being able to become cops has more potential positives than it does negatives is what you're saying yeah I think so I think people are made a knee-jerk the people that are opposed to it created a knee-jerk reaction right when you hear it it just sounds because it's automatically associated with some of the negative things that happen at the border right uh with illegal immigration they they think they're all going to become spies and then become cops not that or just have illicit you know a lot of like I can't even carry a gun in California but an illegal can can illegals join the military I think so I don't know if they're called illegals but I I have a friend who could who couldn't so his student visa expired and after student visa expired uh because he's Chinese the quota for Chinese is really ████ hard for Chinese people to become US citizens good so he became uh he joined the
21:11 military and that's another way you can be a citizen is you just have to serve that's what my cousin did he was illegal but then he joined the Navy and then it fast-tracked his citizenship but I don't know if illegals can do that no human beings illegal don't be so hard on him what's wrong with you Bart all right then all right then
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