0:00 [Music] with the roe v wade stuff going on i understand that it'd be pretty pointless for a bunch of guys in a room to be talking about what we think of it oh speak for yourself i got so many opinions as a man i think it might be more valuable to share any personal stories that we might have with abortion itself in the past well i'll start can't wait well as a group of dudes man we've never had abortion so what do you mean uh here's here's something that might be kind of interesting i've got 20 friends that did it 20 different friends they were the aborted no uh so like i growing up seventh-day adventist you're just kind of programmed already to be against abortion no matter what you even want to hear i didn't even know it was a thing until like way later like like high school or something right
0:52 cause like they don't even mention it all we knew was to shame anybody that we ever heard of that ever had it and then uh right yeah that helps them scarlet letter uh whole thing yeah so in high school like i was already still super against it we don't even talk about it unless that's what you have to say until uh my girlfriend time got pregnant so your girlfriend yeah oh ████ so she cheated on you and got pregnant no immaculate conception she was like the mother mary yeah well she yeah it was when i was 16 and then no 17. i was 17 in high school and she goes um i'm pregnant and i swear to god my opinion switched that night wow and i think that's a really important thing is that everybody who says they take a stance on a certain thing kind of has to
1:42 be faced with the issue itself definitely i had never been more pro-abortion than that exact moment that she told me that sure and i totally went against all my ████ and went i'm not ready for this kid i'm a ████ 17 year old idiot like so i don't i don't know much about it but when i've whenever i heard the concept of it i've always felt like yeah it's the probably the girl's choice um but i don't know what are the main arguing points besides anything that's based in religion like why are moral moral things well the main arguing argument point would be when is it considered living oh so at what so it's like so it's like that's what everybody's arguing about yeah because i think most christians would uh agree that the the point of conscious uh contraception or whatever like conception yeah the point of
2:34 that's already i see it's already fertilized egg is fully grown but then but then some people will argue like no not really until maybe like i don't know two weeks in i don't know third trimester yeah there's so many there's different yeah depending on who you talk to right or depending on what state you're in yeah definitely but the reverse is way does it make it like like what do you call it like a like abortion to league or anything like that it just makes it yeah now it's the states mandate like the states choose versus the federal government you bet the ████ news doesn't say it like that because holy ████ no they don't want to say it like that i think that's why like i get i don't get the facts i don't think like from the news so i don't really abortion isn't illegal i don't quite understand and then like the way people are arguing i'm pretty sure that's not the point of what you're arguing you know they're just making it so like the states can choose so then now people are afraid that the states
3:25 that are in the bible belt that are traditionally against um abortion and stuff they might be like okay well we have the freedom to do it then we're just gonna ban it completely and that makes it so that you know like people are gonna go out and get illegal abortions or they have to go out of state or whatever yeah that's basically the gist of all this stuff yeah that kind of just goes to show right so that those people they already disagreed with this because it was like it was like law in all of 50 states so they're going well if it was up to our government we wouldn't allow it in our state so even though i personally agree with abortion like that doesn't matter because it's up to them in their state to have domain over where they're at and what they believe so it's just one of those things where i you know for me personally i'm like yo anytime that like the scenario that
4:15 exists where if you want to enforce the law you got to point a gun at a pregnant lady's head for me i'm out i don't want to have anything to ████ do with that right yeah but some people are like hey man that's the law in my area and i'm like well you go ████ be there then that's the thing that's interesting is um whenever i see anybody like and this is a good example roe v wade because people come out of the woodwork with their super strong unwavering stalwart opinions and like no nothing will change my mind but then it i think the first time i ever shook on my beliefs was was this is that when it was up to you yeah and when it was me that's faced with it it's like yeah it's easy to like stand on the side and then be like no i will never do that ████ and then literally in the day i was like i would do that ████ honestly i would because a lot of the rationale the people that stand outside and pick it they always go well don't don't abort it
5:05 won't you just adopt it like put it into adoption right like that's like the best solution and that's not to say that i think that everybody who has a strong you know opinion needs to have a personal connection with dealing with themselves i just think that's where you really got to check yourself on your own beliefs on whether or not they're that like all the way one color yeah uh so it's so much greater also i think even a practical viewpoint on it so yeah my closest i guess like association with abortion was um my mom got an abortion so i was the first kid and my mom and my dad had a really rocky relationship and i was supposed to have a little brother and i even remember uh like being um maybe like three or four being really excited to have a little brother and we got like a sonogram put on top of our tv but that's something my mom would tell me and there's like all these child pictures of me standing next to my mom and my mom's
5:56 a maternity clothes like she's about to have have another kid but the relationship between me and my uh my mom and my dad was really bad and then so i think they decided and i think my dad didn't want it i think my mom was down to keep because i think most moms are more attached but my dad didn't uh didn't want it so she was like all right and then if you don't want this then we're not gonna try again you're just gonna be stuck with one kid or whatever they ended up going through with it didn't have it and i think they changed her mind later on i don't know if my mom was older or whatever but she did get pregnant a third time but then end up having a miscarriage but also seeing how rocky their relationship is and when like a kid isn't conceived like the way that me and geo planned it right and it's conceived out of love and a goal like we were buying her ████ those hipster ass smoothies every day so that
6:47 taika could have the best nutrients right i ████ smell secondhand smoke i'm like get the ████ out of here right i'm like i'm like that type of care versus like imagine like someone like my mom or my dad in a rocky relationship like well ████ it i don't give a ████ the cigarette smoke here because then your care is just different right so even what that would because that's what inspired my thought was when you're saying like well just give it up for adoption what about the eight nine months leading up to that point yeah yeah like what kind of trash environment or maybe even fetal alcohol syndrome like whatever crazy ████ that could go on because if you're not in the right mindset of this is my goal you're definitely not going to prioritize anything that's going on here yeah right well didn't geo have some kind of ████ honey grass shot or something that scientists linked to kids talking about their butts a lot yeah
7:38 yeah honey glass shot donkey doo doo so if you only you didn't do that everything else was good yeah it was great good job man i gotta seriously consider should we keep this one i mean he's gonna be ████ talking about butts every day butts and poop that's all he talks about in the sonogram it was just packed it like muggles and i think that's uh like with what ryan's talking about too you know uh until you actually like faced with it to understand like you know even if you are like okay suddenly i'm i'm pro-abortion and it's like you know like i i flipped the script on like what i've grown up to believe or what i've been taught or anything like that it's at the end of the day even as dudes it still like isn't really our choice in that moment you know what i'm saying like even to be pro-boyfriend is still look at that that woman and be like what do you want to do and how can we support that because even if like y'all honestly i'm not ready to
8:28 have a kid they're like i want to have the kid it's kind of like well so what are you going to do just bounce what do you you know what i'm saying yeah because at the same time i also had a friend they didn't plan it they had a kid and in the minute uh they had a kid she didn't even know if that dude was gonna be like the uh like the caretaker and follow along with the journey but then her mom had turned on and the same exact way that like me and gio had with tyka she just assumed it on her own yeah so on the flip side there are other people that are like you know what um this is what happened so i'm going to own it yeah i'ma rise to occasion and just take care of it 100 percent and the way that her care was throughout like all the trimesters was insane too i think that some people though are are very nice people and they think that everyone's gonna love babies as much as they love their babies yeah like dude i was talking to this cat last night at the at the hotel i'm staying at
9:18 and he was telling me about how he's with this chick and they have like a three-year-old kid and he's like yeah i'm not even sure if i'm gonna stay with her the kid's pretty cool but like i don't know like like it's he's like it's really ████ annoying having a three-year-old and he's like i just wanna like sort of banger yeah i just want to balance it will you tell me how about how he wants to bounce and like but yeah i don't think that somebody who's like yeah babies should be loved and cherished i don't think that that's everybody obviously and then like we talk about like foster care stuff right like once a baby's born and they're like i don't want anymore they put in the foster system and then that becomes a whole nother ████ complete gray area and so much trauma all this craziness that comes out of that whole like system like there's so many different variables that people don't really account for and but they want to make their decision on like this is what i believe and this is the only
10:08 way and that's kind of a problem too but yeah oh no it's very touching portion in the book uh freakonomics where they talk about um the low crime rate in major cities uh there was a certain time where there was a low crime rate that happened and you know the whole book is about correlation is not causation right so they were they were saying like oh it's because you know you know the there's everyone's making more money now that's why the crime is low or whatever whatever but then what they really found out was when abortion became legal and people were able to do this and because young mothers you know they're able to pursue her higher education they were able to like maybe go from poverty to middle class or all these things right they weren't having kids at a young age and raising them
10:58 maybe making a ton of mistakes and maybe them becoming delinquents you know and then so they're like it kind of sucks out of this tragedy that's what happened but then it did give the women the single moms or potential single moms a fighting chance to go out and you know not i guess continue the cycle because they're probably like raised by a single mom or something in a bad neighborhood or whatever yeah so um it's it's kind of hard to say because it's like it's one of those things that are it's so complex and and there's so many my new details depending on where you live depending on the culture of the people that believe what um like if it's a religious city like if everyone in that city like like imagine this happening in salt lake city it's completely different right it's a bunch of mormons and ████ but like in la or like whatever and then is the state
11:49 gonna take care of them and it's like how can you answer all this crazy ████ and yeah i'm definitely not here to be like yo am i pro-life pro-choice but i do think i believe that like it shouldn't be a bunch of dudes making a decision on ████ what like women have to go through so you know especially when they're 109 dude and it's like it's also one thing to take into account how much of the woman's decision is influenced by the guy's uh influence on her yeah luckily for me like to end what i was sharing um i decided we're gonna keep it and then um i had homies at the time we all they started like a collection pot to like have some way to like seed some money because i had nothing at 17. um and then literally like after like dealing with it for a couple weeks my girl like she she was oh my stomach ████ is killing me she goes to the
12:39 bathroom miscarriage oh oh wow so it was just over and i was like holy ████ like what a gigantic lesson to just learn yeah you know wow yeah i have to say that wouldn't happen to anybody else but of course that happens to him and i never ████ again [Music] you
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