0:00 Cuz when I picture Arctic training, I feel like there's Eskimo ████ special off like this is how you build an igloo and survive. >> Yeah. Here's how to avoid a polar bear, dude. >> Yeah. >> Learn how to You learn how to operate in the snow. You know, you learn >> Yeah, but we live in Las Vegas. So, I was just asking like how he would apply it. >> [laughter] >> Welcome back to another episode of The Careful Boys. We just got Subin back from boot camp, y'all. >> Welcome back, army boy. >> Yes, saw cuss. But it's more amazing that luckily we have Bart who can explain Subin's boot camp experience better than Subin. >> That is so true. >> Yeah, yeah. >> He's a Subin translator. >> And OSS and a TDW? And a PQY's? You know when you get a PQY and a 455? 455's and 109's? With a 30 ████
0:51 >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> All right. That's That one's going to stick for a long time, by the way. Yeah, 30 ████ will be recalled. >> And all [laughter] of us wasn't sure. >> Obviously, you know, this couch here is brown leather couch over here has, you know, guys that have served. Thank you for your service, all right? >> Thank you It's the right hand, right? Thank you for the service. >> Thank you for your service, your ongoing service. >> Yes, sir. >> 30 ████'s, right? >> But not sarcastically, truly. >> But truly. >> But here's the thing though, what what we do get to witness off camera are small moments where Bart gets to witness Subin go through boot camp in this era, slight differences, and then like these very subtle like if I could have done it all over with the mind that I had now, this is what I would do, Bart. >> It's like Bart remembering happy Christmases. [clears throat] >> Yeah.
1:41 >> As if he had any, but >> And then and then also now the desperate father of trying to be like like I went down this wrong path. Don't do what I did, son. And then Subi still goes and blows his load on like a 4Runner, right? >> [laughter] >> Blow my load on a 4Runner? >> load on a 4Runner? >> ████ no. No doubt, nothing. >> He can't. He would if he didn't have a kid. >> Good, right? Everything. >> But the point to the conversation, and I'm just more curious on like expanding on it, is like yeah, yeah, Bart went to a boot camp what how 20 years ago? 22 years ago? >> I went in 2003. >> Okay, so 23 years ago. 23 years ago, obviously there's big differences >> Damn, I went to boot camp 23 years ago? >> That's what I'm saying. >> Ooh. >> Bro, I graduated high school 2004. So now So now take that same 23 years of time, and you already know I'm going to get meta on this cuz you know about time in the market versus just timing the market, right? So that's a long
2:32 period of time. What would you genuinely, if you knew what you knew now, what would you truly have done different that you pray Subin does coming out of his experience now? >> Genuinely. And I'm like honest answers, not ████ around. >> Okay. Well, some of the stuff I actually text and message Subin privately. >> Can you give people the down low on like genuinely what you believe? >> So genuinely, even though Subin's right here, I'll pretend he's over there. >> Mhm. >> A couple of the things that I would have done differently with my whole military career, the first one I would have joined Army or the Navy, which I think he did a great job of. >> So you can tell us why. >> And the the main reason why is um I think the Marine Corps is ████ cool for sure, but I think because they are such sticklers to tradition and culture, they make things
3:23 extremely hard when they don't need to be. And so with the burnout rate is high. >> Mhm. >> So when it when it goes time to like do I want to re-enlist or do I want to pursue more things in the in the in the Marines? >> Corps. >> Yeah, it makes you not want to actually. So it's almost as if like now if you like hire any personal trainer, no one does the like train maximally anymore. Like you got to push yourself cuz they know it's actually not good for your body. You want to train sub-maximally 70 to 80 to 90% for a long period of time and that's how you actually get strong. Like all the 500, 600, 700 benchers out there, they're not hitting their maxes every single time in the gym, which is the time that I learned. So, you have like a way more scientific approach. So, with the Marine Corps, I feel like I would have been way more invested and maybe maybe even would
4:13 have gone active or gone to way more schools had I not been so burnt out with boot camp. >> Is it a method to try to weed out certain personalities? >> Um >> [sighs] >> I sure hope so as a regular civilian who wants my ████ army to be strong. >> be, but I don't think that's their job. I think that's the recruiter's job. >> But they don't really do their job that well according to >> Yeah, I just don't think the whole system the whole system can needs needs reform for sure, but I don't think that's the I don't think that's the That's just the culture of the Marine Corps from Like so, for example, when I was in Korea, I worked night shift, 9:00 p.m. to 9:00 a.m. In In any other branch, you would just be on a night shift type schedule, and I and I was there for 3 weeks, and you would just do a night shift schedule.
5:03 For me uh I went from I went to sleep 9:00 p.m. and they would wake me up at 7:00 uh no, no. I got back, I barely slept for 2 hours, they would wake me up to join PT for the day shift people. And I'm like, why? They They got to sleep their 8 hours. Why do I have to wake up as if I work day shift? Like I just spent the whole night. I need to sleep throughout the day, but Marine Corps is all about PT. So, you're training no matter what. So, like halfway >> You don't think they were like, "Motherfucker, you don't even speak a Korean. You got to do something." >> No, no, this is on the American side. >> [laughter] >> Literally. >> No, this is on the >> Really on the American >> No, this is American side. >> That's hilarious, though. >> He's like, "I don't understand why I got to work hard." It's like, "You ain't even working to start." >> Cuz I'm like I'm like super checked out then, right? Versus cuz I don't go I go well all the day shift people, they don't wake them up at ████ 4:00 a.m.
5:54 and make them go >> But it was a it was a Marine thing. >> Yeah, it's just a Marine thing. >> Is the night shift the short straw thing or is that has nothing to do with it? >> The >> You know what I mean by that? >> Yeah, no, there's just they're just assigned. Just randomly assigned. >> Yeah. So it's not like we're trying to get you better so you're going night shift and we'll be harder on you. >> No, no, it's just like >> Well, to be fair, for the sake of the of the question though and the and the conversation in general though, it's like you know better now, so this is what you would do. It's not a question of does it make a more gangster soldier? >> Yes. >> It's purely like I had you if you were to do it again. >> I were do it to do it again, my advice would be I think this is a better funnel if you make things appropriately difficult uh in accordance to what is required. That way people that would have want to gone far, they can go far. >> Mhm. >> You know what I mean? Like if you just want to be a dog trainer, you don't need
6:45 to know how to train a tiger. Cuz then you're going to make this guy quit. >> But don't don't you need one branch to be that though? >> No, cuz all the branches have their own. >> It's so unnecessary. >> Well, the Navy's have Navy SEAL. Like every single branch like let them get there if they get there, right? It's like why are you treating a white belt like he's a black belt and now he quit. >> Why have an entire department dedicated to it? >> Now you have a jujitsu school or whatever school shut down cuz they go out of business like our MMA place cuz every white belt is treated like a black belt. Everyone's getting injuries like crazy. Broken fingers and ████ and they're like, "Dude, I don't even know how to fight yet." So So that's level one. >> Yeah. >> Level two, um I would this this is the thing that I messaged Suben about, which is uh take advantage of every school you can. >> Yeah. >> Cuz there's a lot of ████ cool schools like jungle warfare, arctic training, airborne, sear.
7:35 >> What did you take advantage of or what did you regret not taking advantage of? >> I went to zero schools because I cuz you know when you're 19? >> Ooh. I know. 3 to 5 weeks feels like an eternity. >> Yeah. >> And when you're in college, you're like, oh, so you're telling me I'm not graduating '09, I'm graduating 2010 in the winter. So it pushes it back. But then when you're like 42, you're like, none of that ████ ████ matters. What matters is life experience. So I was telling Subin, I'm like, every school that you get offered, go do it. Cuz uh These are schools you'll never be able to do again in the civilian world. And you only have You know what >> You know what I was just telling my wife? I wish I did Arctic training. >> [laughter] >> What? >> I was just saying that on Tuesday. I was just saying that. I you know >> Yeah, well, because of Bart's
8:25 >> But I had one regret. >> Because [snorts] of Bart's uh >> [laughter] >> All All day? >> Telling me to go like whatever school, we uh we just got offered to do uh uh what do you call it, driving school? So during my annual training, so I No, no, no. Like driving Humvees and LMTVs, like trucks. >> That's ████ cool. >> So a lot of people didn't really volunteer for it. I said, I don't give a ████ I just raised my hand. >> As many as you can. >> Every ████ thing they offer, I'm I'm going to raise my hand. >> And what's dope is as a National Guard or Reservist, these schools qualify for your 2-week annual training anyways. >> Yeah. >> So instead of doing ████ annual training, I mean, that's not ████ but like you're you're just doing kind of like placeholder training, you can get a specialized thing. >> Yeah. >> So I'm going to be doing that. >> Yeah, that makes that makes >> That's a better sell. That's a better
9:15 sell. >> You're going to do this 2 weeks anyways. You could do 2 weeks in generic mountains of like Camp Pendleton, or you can learn how to drive some cool ████ jump out of a plane, you know, do night vision ████ Arctic train, whatever the ████ you know? >> Mhm. >> So what what would you have used Arctic training for genuinely? >> Well, you just don't know. Now, I think it's in the back of your brain, you're just that much more capable when it comes to certain things. >> Like you you could you might be sent to like Alaska or like >> You will be sent to Alaska. >> Some That's where you do the arc >> Or maybe you just like get a hell of a good at snowboarding. >> Arctic training. So a lot of these trainings are really dope too cuz uh they These schools are expensive, so you cross train. You'll train with UK troops, Irish troops, Australian troops, Canadian troops. So you'll get a chance to cross train with a lot of other people and you see their tactics. It just expands your mind. >> That's sick cuz when I picture Arctic training, I feel like there's Eskimo
10:05 ████ special op like this is how you build an igloo and survive. >> Yeah. It's like here's how to avoid a polar bear, dude. >> Learn how to You learn how to operate in the snow, you know, you learn >> Yeah, but we live in Las Vegas. So I was just asking like how we would apply it. >> Well, [laughter] here's the thing. >> Uh brother uh >> Yeah, Mount Charleston. Mount Charleston. >> Hey, we go snowboarding, brother. >> Excuse me, sir. >> It's really fun. >> It's also bragging rights. >> Okay, I like that. That's better. That's better. >> You also go to somebody and someone, you know, it's 60° somebody goes, "Oh my god, it's cold." You can look at them, "Yo, b████." >> When I was in >> I was in ████ Arctic school ████ with one snivel gear on patrolling. >> Well, don't say Arctic school cuz that still sounds kind of >> Mhm. >> No, really. It's Yeah, whatever the these are. Arctic >> Growing up in the East Coast, we used to have like blizzards and snow and all that ████ So when I lived in California for like the first 5 years when California says it's cold at like 65°, I
10:56 was like, "Y'all a bunch of ████ pussies." And then I acclimated and now I'm the I'm just as much of a ████ >> Yeah, it's all right. >> Wait, like but your weapons >> operate differently in the snow, too. So you don't But you never get a chance to have your guns freeze on you or whatever. >> You live in Las Vegas. You just need to accept it. >> I do live here. >> You don't need to use your weapons in the snow. >> But I like I like having the capability of knowing that. >> I want our number three. >> [snorts] >> So those two are big. Um what would be the third one? >> [snorts] >> The third one I think those are two Okay, no, the So the third one is that post-military. Post-military um which he already knows like the VA loan stuff. I think that like half of the benefit stuff he's already informed on, so that's why he he did join. >> Yeah. >> But, um understanding how the VA loan system works, >> Yeah. >> and all the benefits of being a veteran, every single state has different ones.
11:48 >> Yeah. >> So, one of the sickest ones is in Texas. They have raw pieces of land that uh that are specified and and designated only for veterans, and they get a specific loan to the state. Not not from a a a a financial company, but you you buy these uh parceled out pieces of land in Texas for a lower What is it called? Lower interest rate, lower price, and it's already designated for you. >> And remember, no property taxes. >> Yeah, and then uh um >> Is that right? >> Yeah. >> That's huge. >> Depends, depends. No, there's like about 20-something states, like Hawaii's one of them. Hawaii, if if you are veteran and you own property in Hawaii, you don't have to pay property tax. >> Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of them, so uh understanding which states have which benefits, and then aligning yourself to that state.
12:38 >> To that knee. >> To maximize your the rest of your life, you know? Those are the three biggest. The benefits, so which is post-military, cuz I didn't even know about any of that stuff until way later. And then maximizing your military experience, and then choosing the one that will allow you to go the furthest and not getting too burnt out. >> It's like when Joe was talking about Playboy magazines and porn. I haven't this awake all day. You're just >> Wow, this is how I'm passionate and I talked to him uh privately about it. >> It's way better that Joe's passionate about Playboy and porn. >> Yeah, yeah, we're chatting. >> Cuz [laughter] cuz right now you're talking about this, and Joe's like >> Just chilling. >> Still thinking about Playboy still. >> We're all kind of chilling, cuz we're like I'm in awe. I'm just like, "Oh, ████ All right." >> Yeah, those are the main things. >> cool. Shout out to Bart for texting me privately out of his busy time to give me a couple uh
13:28 >> What's his playboy stuff? Makes you feel any better, you kind of like sexually abused you. >> Yeah, he he was hard the whole time texting you, bro. >> You're gay.
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