0:00 [Music] I really want to get your opinion on this because as somebody who's uh business is so closely linked to social media um I think it'll be really interesting there's a you guys might have heard about uh the santis he vetoed this bill that was going to ban social media usage for anyone under 16 wow really so they were proposing that it not be allowed for Florida or that's one running florid for Florida how would they even enforce that well I think what they were going to do was they were going to have this third you have to have like a third party age authentication thing so it wasn't that it was completely Banning it it was just going to make it like more of but is it as stupid as like you go on a porn site and then there's like are you 18 it's yes or no yes or no it could have
0:50 been who knows but they didn't get that far so I always say no the Santi didn't agree with it he ended up like Ving it so that it's just off the table but what do you guys think um about social media being disallowed I like that actually from anybody I like that actually for kids yeah I like that man that's a good question because under 18 they ain't got no rights I mean so we have uh on so taica has his own iPad uhhuh on his iPad we select what he watch ta is my kid he's like 6 years old uh we select what he watches and he does have YouTube but even YouTube has parental settings yeah but there's a lot of ████ freaks on there that some know how to do like sidewind ████ they get into the kids category be like oh cool look at Spider-Man like saving a princess and it's they know how to embed this part in the video where
1:41 the ████ princess gets graped later and ████ so you're like they just want they want I don't know there's a lot of like ████ what are they are these called like virtual molesters or something I don't know what they're called who so we'll have to like watch what he's watching crazy you have to watch you have to it starts off as like a cartoon they're in the par it's normal and like 5 minutes into it they're like stabbing like somebody and it's like and then a demon head pops out and then a ████ like pumpkin cracks open and then ████ there's like a dead baby like some just crazy ████ what it'll be crazy who does I don't know find a way to get into the kids section yeah so the world is dark and then there's a ton of um stats showing like especially in middle school you know where people like Social Circle like uh your reputation matters a lot
2:31 and like suicide rates have gone up like crazy so to me um I would like to preserve his like his I think people I think in this day and H2 even we're we're dealing with it but you know how like there'll be like a even like our own like spouses or whatever right like they know how real people feel about them like their their husband their friends whatever and then they read a comment from a stranger that's like oh oh they didn't like my ████ nail polish right so even as an adult if they have a hard time Discerning that for middle school kids it's extra hard so I'm trying to spend I know it's inevitable so I'm like in the real age as much as I can let like affirm what real social interactions and opinions are I feel like that that sound sets the
3:21 foundation then later on when it goes man your ████ haircuts whack you'll be like oh but I know how my dad feels about me that's fine versus he also thinks it's whack yeah yeah yeah yeah you know D versus like when I when I think it's too young and it's still molding yeah then like there's no real like for me like I don't give a ████ like even when I am getting cancelled it doesn't hurt that bad because I know how my true homies feel about me and I have a strong Inner Circle right your foundation is strong but when your foundation is outside validation and you get cancelled dude that's so hard yeah also like there's a case study already we've seen over time right they talk about this and you can read about like when the smartphone was created and invented and available to all consumers in like 2008 2009 era is when depression
4:11 is when suicides it's ever been since record keeping so we have that case study so I'll be super down for a case study where 16-year-olds or whatever are under aren't allowed smartphones and who who knows maybe it's like not right or like we're taking somebody's right to a smartphone away that's already really weird but let's get that case study back you know what I'm saying let's just see what happens because same ████ like when you're an adult like we've already developed an understanding of who we are when you're a child you're learning who you are you shouldn't be learning who you are through watching somebody else's life and judging and comparing cuz you're super sensitive and you're super innocent to things and you haven't developed yourself you got to find out who you are before you can like just learn about everybody else's stuff you know I think it's got to come down to parents because from a regulatory POV I don't think there's any law you set up without parental involvement that would
5:02 actually work I don't know but you guys when I was in school we were on addictinggames.com yeah you remember even though that was banned cuz we learned how to use VPS at age 10 and our teachers didn't even know what these things were one I think it has to come from the parents because the law can't enforce it two I think it's got to come from the parents because what you just said B there's a balance between look kids want to express themselves they got to be creative they got to learn the internet it just gives them everything and that means they can make more but it means they're going to be exposed and as a parent you have to do a good job guiding your child through it now the scary thing about this and I think this is why people want to enshrine it in law is now you're just trus in people because just because you're a parent doesn't mean you're a good parent we don't know what
5:52 you're going to let your kid watch and I think that is just an inevitable cost of having technology make it easier for all of us to to connect and share stuff with each other you also have to take on that responsibility protecting your kids I think the way you're doing it is right thank you the extra hard part too is let's say as a parent you go no social media whatever for you or no tablet but then you go to the homie's house they're like their whole family has it so it's also like a community based thing too right I which why though if it becomes like law then you as a parent get to be like oh was it's not my fault a little bit a little bit more helpful yeah that's all but when I think about like laws and regulations and things like this right I think we're we're they're they're thinking of the most vulnerable population that don't have parents and they're neglected because it has to go into now the government has to take over cuz there's that group the people that
6:44 already have responsible parents the they're going to be like Bon have this thought out and you don't need a law in order to to have good parenting in play so I'm like which is W like which is better right so like do we give a Fighting Chance to the youth who probably have drugged up parents or whoever don't they're just not around and they don't give a ████ right so then like what's going to balance that and does the state have to come in and do it that's a fascinating concept what is the purpose of law is it to specifically help the most disenfranchised even if for the majority of people maybe it even gets in their way there's this philosopher named John Ross and he said let's construct a society and he said number number one laws should be intended to help the
7:34 least fortunate even if it hurts the majority and the second proxy use which we could use here as well he had something called the veil of ignorance he said let's all sit here and say we don't know who we're going to be in society maybe we will be that really unfortunate child who grows up with druggy parents and no one's paying attention to us or maybe you grow up and you're elen musk's kid actually I don't know if that's the best state to be maybe you're Bart kid maybe maybe that's the best maybe your tagy exactly you we sitting here we don't know which we're going to end up being now let's sit and construct laws because this means you construct a law knowing that like maybe what if I'm the disenfranchise kid like wouldn't I want to prevent the downside case so that's an interesting point I was thinking more like well for me if I had a kid I could watch over him like Bart I wasn't thinking about there are people out there who don't have that yeah cuz I always think about the lowest common denominator and upping the bar for them so if they're not protected
8:25 then who is protecting them but a lot of people don't like how the state is interfering now with family like rules and whatevers right cuz I think that's the difficult part is big state or little State what do we do but I think like even with law it's such a it's like written but it's so it's so gray right like think about like addicting games right if they say you can't play addicting games you're going to have two kids in the class one's going to be like ████ I can't play this the other one's going to be like ████ you I'm going to figure out what a VPN is and I'm going to go around this this system same thing with this law if you put a law like this in place it's not like everybody's going to not have a social media account but the ones that like just choose to break it which again this isn't like harming another human being like or directly if they're choosing to there's also something about
9:15 maybe that person is going to be a Creator cuz they want to be so badly you know it just puts a barrier in place for the people that either desire it so much that there there's going to take some sort of like effort Ingenuity and even creativity to do something to break that law you know what I'm saying there's one more obstacle it's not like police it's not like police are going to come by and be like hey I heard you're breaking the social media law I could say what Joe said it's about the lowest common it's about the most disenfranchised child sure you're saying oh it's just a speed bump maybe for us it wouldn't have been that hard to figure it out but maybe there's people out there even the slightest bit of friction their lives are already so hard that's going to get in the way of them getting through and expressing their creativity so in a way sort of the inverse version of what you described yeah and also um it can be a law but who's enforcing it and how are they enforcing it it might be a bunch of
10:07 idiots that misinterpret it and then now they're like police state style hardcore like using it to now create censorship we don't really know cuz it's all volatile humans that are kind of playing this game but I think ultimately everything starts off with maybe good intentions of like hey we shouldn't exposed these kids too early but I mean dude we were all ████ beaten off at 13 years old watching ████ online already so 16 sounds too old which why which is why I think it's a it's a funny it's a funny law that could um like if I was a parent I would just use it it's it's not about enforcing it it see it's against the law it's like a tool for parents to use right cuz nobody you know nobody can ████ go down and really enforce it you know why it works even better as that because this exact thing that got vetoed it was saying that kids under 16 couldn't have social media even
10:58 if their parents allowed it so that's more for them to go me it's the but obvious don't run away from home okay what but even if your parent like even it says you your parents if they allow it you can't do it your parent might still be like ████ it dude like and and nobody's going to ████ put you in jail that's why I'm like oh this is a sick law cuz people who need to use it can use it if they're going to break it they're going to break it who gives a ████ that's true it's like us kids watching porno when we're under 18 yeah how many laws stopped us didn't want us to watch porno when that's an interesting thing too is that I always assumed you know back when we we lived in the internet age that was the the transitionary one where like our parents knew zero and we knew everything and then I always assumed that in the Next Generation when you know our generation was Savvy enough that we'd be able to catch more stuff but it
11:49 progresses still and now we are the zeros and then our kids cuz taica plays Roblox right so Roblox it's almost like another world right they sh share songs they share food so it's like before you're like oh I'll just monitor what he's watching but now like when he's like he he can like have friends in other places I've never even met that they talk and I'm like oh ████ I'm the grandpa again doesn't even know what the ████ happening right like it's always going to move a step ahead but the funny thing too is that like I didn't account for like when I was like 13 or 14 using the internet thinking I was a king I didn't account that in the future parents would also exploit their own kids oh that's crazy I didn't see that coming I always looked at it like parents were against it and they were trying to stop you and they're stopping you but I would if I had Ryan toys as my
12:41 son he that F made 30 million last oh my goodness last quarter I wish he was my son that was one of the craziest eye opening uh Ryan's toy review we went to a Playlist Live and then some of the uh you know like Creator events or meetups or whatever like 10:00 11:00 at night and then there was one where there's like a mom or a dad he had a camera and then he was shooting the baby like just like walking in the hallway like vlogging and ████ and I'm like damn this motherfucker's getting content right now on the kid that's ████ crazy yeah man it's always going to take a different cuz it blurs the lines right it's like when do I step in as a Creator or when do I step in as parents and that yeah that that's kind of where like I look at this thing and how they're doing these laws to prevent kids but if it's the parent that's the root of it in
13:31 either way where they're the cause you're doing nothing to prevent that just leave it open then I don't know just leave it open I think that's I mean DeSantis veto did so I mean there must be some form of logic that's like I don't think this is actually going to do what I also think like looking at my degenerate upbringing versus some of like my other friends that I felt like came out more productive at an early age it's always like um like what other Alternatives do you have so like like you know my friend's been been playing basketball since he was five so he's in school team social teams whatever he just doesn't even have that that much time to go on the internet and ████ jack off for me I go home after school at 3:00 I literally have zero productive activities so I'm jacking off from 3:00 all the way to like 9:00 p.m. who says that's not productive so when there's like you know what I me like when there's other things in play that are like actual purposeful things
14:22 people will gravitate towards that but when you don't then you become scumbags like us and we just that's why you never answer your phone yeah you need ████ to do bro I can't reach B guys go straight to voicemail like airplane mode or something so weird every every [Music] Monday
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