← back to the archive // episode file

Off The Record: What's the Loneliest You've Ever Felt? (ft. Jason Cheny)

#wavelength#lonely#loneliness#frequency#connect
the transcript auto-captions · entered into evidence

0:00 thank you [Music] welcome back everybody to another amazing episode of careful boys today we have Mr Jason Cheney with us [Applause] so uh we also have Ken sitting in on we're hearing this hey what's up [Applause] slightly uneasy that's because For the first time in history Anthony's on that side of the table that's not true oh we've I've sat next to you before really on that side while the cameras were on for sure how did we all match dude your black shirt oh ████ gray sweaters and out of all the days like this wasn't even planned you know why Jason Cheney said earlier during lunch he says we're all in the same wavelength that's what that's not what I said that's what he said I didn't

0:50 say that you didn't say that I said this is what this is it's just we're not on this this is what this is you don't think we're in the same way what does that even mean you see this hostility this is what I mean I feel like we're on the same wave like I take that it does seem like the way by we're not on the same wavelength are you are you in a higher frequency or lower frequency no I'm in a frequency just like a different frequency it doesn't matter yeah but it always it only goes high or low though yeah no yes it does yes there's Lo-Fi and high five I'm in the universe bro it's like dice there's only high or low yup okay really say okay that's fine I just feel like we're not on the same frequency what YouTube I'm on ████ a FM radio you guys are on AM radio you said you predicted that Joe would wear this today no I didn't so actually I got this uh as a gift from my mom like a few

1:40 weeks ago for my birthday and then I was like you know what I'm just gonna wear this today and then he ended up wearing his because I knew he had one I was like oh nice you know happy birthday look at Joe man yeah yeah the synchronization of this room is kind of weird though because like a lot of the times we don't know that we're assigned next to these seatings right yeah and then we'll be color coded or like we'll match or like it'll be like one day I'm wearing like green and pink and then the the person next to me is wearing green and pink but like from top to bottom like Swap and we're just like what the ████ can I say something though what there's always a good shot you're gonna wear kimono though say something what um there's also a good shot it feels like we're matching because nothing else in here matches there's only something you both have gray hoodies I know that that's like

2:31 something you both have black shirts my washing machines specifically black shirts with smiley faces oh my god wow that's creepy you don't want to do better you guys are all wearing black pants get the ████ out of here that's gray this is gray but that's been happening at JK news like forever yeah that's really cool man even when David used to always be here I mean there's only so many like colors colors to wear and like yeah but today but this like come on dude oh I think it's not Joe it's definitely not Joe it's not a joke but I like that you're wearing a kimono thank you question of the day now that we've all felt like we're paired up and everything I wanted to know what is the loneliest

3:22 you've ever felt oh bro right now why because I'm single you feel do I honestly feel lonely right now yeah all the time but it's not like a bad thing it's like one of those things where you can't help what you feel it's like oh I got I'm working you know I I go to the gym I do everything I have hobbies I have friends but then there's always that time where you're like oh but I'm single so it's like because when everything settles down it's just you huh I felt alone but not lonely oh you've never felt that's really nice uh sometimes but in for most of my recent life no what can I ask you what's the what's like a couple people that you feel that you're most connected with because to feel not lonely I feel like you need to have somebody that you feel like you're really connected with yeah I think uh

4:13 I just feel like I have a really tight closeness with my family and friends that I don't need them around all the time even though I'm extroverted like I I like I really like the company of people but when kovid happened during lockdown I was by myself for like a month and the two human interactions that I had was one one time my buddy came to drop off cheesecake and then the other one um I think so yeah one of my other friends came by to drop something off at the door so for the whole month all of my interactions was like Zoom phone calls and stuff like that and I didn't even notice it yeah so so I didn't maybe because all day like we were doing like me and Steve we were doing those lives together we

5:03 were like I was always like I was on the phone like chatting with people so like I was stimulated like socially but if you're not would you still feel fulfilled because of the connections that you know that you have what do you mean by that like because you sometimes you know sometimes you just go on the phone and talk to people and then you're like oh I'm connecting with somebody but even though they might not be your close friend but if you don't talk to anybody would you still feel like oh I I'm alone but I don't feel lonely because you know that they still love you and yeah yeah like my family like my friends like all this stuff right so I don't you know how like some people they need to always check in and be like Oh and then when you don't talk to them for a while they're like are we still friends and ████ I don't have that like all of my friendships it's like it's always in the uh in the

5:53 moment we're like there but I could not talk to you guys for like months and then when we see each other we'll start off where we left off how many people do you have like that like a handful like I would say aside from my my um aside from Hannah I'm with her like every single day except for when I'm in LA right but uh everybody outside of that even my mom in a whatever all of my relationships are like that wow so it once like like let's say like me and Ken like we lived with each other for like over five years we can tell something like that something like that we've been roommates we've been friends for a long time day but I feel like I have that I have that relationship with him where like once I think I feel like uh once you

6:43 have that security of friendship and whatever like I could not talk maybe for like months and then we can see each other and like start where we left off yeah give each other hugs yeah those are the best friendships by the way I think so I think most of my friends like healthy space yeah you know you're not always like do you feel like that too I think in a way I do yeah I know what I think uh I mean I'm I think I'm the type of friend where you don't have to like check in a lot and if I see you again whether it's like a year or a day like I'm gonna I'll still remember everything yeah I'm pretty good with that what about you that's really nice do you have that um like I have one person that's like that but I've just met recently oh yeah that's that's really nice yeah most of your friends like you're always hanging out talking no I don't I don't really

7:33 have friends besides my wife and my wife's sister I love them hello yeah dude we're your friends yeah hi is that what you mean wavelength busy doing orgies do all the logistics and then when you're there you got to put the penis inside all the ████ you know there's a there's a really a really crazy story I can tell you guys about it uh there's um I got a glimpse of like what true loneliness like really is and it was crazy uh it was in 2012 I had done a show in Adelaide in Australia the stage we were on it was for this music festival where

8:23 the stage was very uh it was very short so it didn't go very far and there were these like speaker monitors out in the way and I got to do the same set every day that we do this show and I didn't have enough room to do this flip so I got self-conscious and then I landed and hit the back of my head and then it felt like this was my second concussion I ever had and it felt like teleportation like I hit my head oh my God next thing I know I'm in the wings standing here watching the stage and then my friends my friends here and he goes hey are you okay and then right when I I teleported again to the green room and I'm sitting there and there's like 10 people around me and they're like yo are you okay like it's that fast and then uh once it start started subsiding and I could kind of uh tell where I was I'm in a hotel room with some guy that I don't know and he's

9:14 like hey uh I'm here to just make sure that you don't fall asleep oh my God so what happened is um we were doing these shows so quickly in succession that they had to move on to Perth and they couldn't put me on the plane because they were like if your brain's swelling you got to just stay grounded and then so they paid uh one of the event staff guys to just go to my hotel and then just sit there and just stare at me basically and talk to me and that was the fourth thing I remembered in that row so I'm just sitting here in a room with a dude I've never seen in my life and he's just like how do you feel like well do you want to watch music videos what do you want to do just like to hang out with me so I don't like knock out and then never wake up and all this is like I'm trying to process this like in the moment so then we're sitting there and I like things started to get back to normal speed again and I'm sitting in this room we're watching go ta ████

10:04 what's that song Somebody that I used to know about and I just I'm just watching it and I'm just like in the haze and then I'm thinking ████ I gotta I got a concussion and everybody left and I'm gonna have to meet them later in the next city uh I should tell my girlfriend like what happened so then I I go go to the um I'm like yo I'm gonna go to the computer so I go to the computer room in this hotel and then I I go on a Gmail to like try to email her or something because back then you I could just text and then I was like uh going through my emails what the ████ my password like I didn't even remember my password so it's like like that one Memento like it is and then I and then I um and then I I remembered it finally and I went to my email and I went I don't even have a girlfriend I was single and I thought I had a

10:54 girlfriend and I went holy ████ like what is my where what's my life you thought you had a girlfriend by reflex and I was I realized I was actually single and there was nobody I was thinking of nobody and then at that moment is when it really hit that I'm like I'm completely alone like there's nobody here with me I don't even know how to communicate with anybody I think all I can do is sit here and just be dizzy yeah and that was the except for the one guy in the room that's like hello I'll hang with you I'm gonna have somebody to call no I didn't I just I just was like they had left a message saying that because they had to go right we would go back to that I know yeah so then I was just like okay I'll meet them later I'll meet them later and then I just remembered that was the moment where like I never felt that lonely that's a crazy loneliness yeah and it's almost like a simulation of loneliness where it's not truly you're not truly alone but the feeling is enough and I

11:45 didn't go to hospital there or what happened when I got to Perth yeah they had a doctor check me out but the crazy thing is that what I learned from that is like there's people that feel that without that even happening like without a concussion they just feel this ████ at home yeah all the time and it was like I was like holy ████ and that gave me a lot of empathy for like people that go through actual loans depression because I'm like for me that was like a chemical imbalance kind of loneliness but jeez yeah can I say a thing I just want to make sure I could say the thing don't say whatever you want thank you for asking yourself you're too polite sometimes I I would I like to be polite I know I try to be can I do anything or would you I don't know if you guys feel this but sometimes maybe it's just um sometimes people I would like people

12:36 to see me but that's why I was doing the wavelength thing like talking about wavelength a lot of the times I don't feel like people understand me like not like communication I try to be but like see the person that I am and um because sometimes with relationships you build the Relationships by like explaining to other people how you are and why you do the things you do and then they started to understand you so that when you communicate they go oh this is this person that's why he's reacting this way but there's only like one person that see me that way but we don't talk anymore but that's really because you know how when you build a relationship like that with somebody and they understand you that's a nice friendship but then you're like oh man like my wife like I this is so cool that if you build a relationship that people could understand you so well this is impossible every day I woke up like that but once I met this person I'm

13:27 like how can somebody see me like this without building it like they just connect oh it just clicks yeah it just clicks but but it feels ████ up when you can't talk to that person and then so every time you're like because I don't know doing stand-up um is like you know you just want a failed scene and feel the feel understood you know all the time and um and I feel like I feel like that's a little bit lonely too like to always want to be like hey see me it is go ahead can I ask something [Laughter] depending on what it is who is this person that you it was a friend that uh that I had a orgy with you remember [Laughter]

14:18 the party for men I thought I had orgy I'm so lonely [Laughter] but that's crazy but yeah but I feel like sometimes it's like a yeah I don't know how to dodge your question I don't know how to do that I don't know how to do it sometimes I don't know how to when you connect with somebody and then oh yeah like you do feel like a lot of people don't understand you I feel but I don't I don't feel like because back to the wavelength thing the loneliness thing sometimes I feel like that here because you guys are so you guys are on the same wavelength like I know you said it takes a while but it's just a person too just as how you are as a person you guys all are on like the same wave and you could

15:08 you think I'm on the same wave with these fools but the thing is you do like crazy like act out things too and then it's like but it's a fun thing and it matches you know what I mean it complements everything everybody comes with it because he said the precedent can I say something because we're all in the same wavelength it's a good time why do you feel like we're not on the same wavelength you guys are it's not with you no because I don't get I'd like because some you guys know a lot about the culture and the culture like movie or uh movie or music references and also like uh and also it's just the way you guys do comedy together it's very like Sim like a and you guys had can I finish my thing I'm just I'm just waiting I'm Gonna

15:59 Stand by this is waiting this is like putting up you're calling me when you're ready yeah all right okay put your hand down sorry relax man that's all though but that's how I feel but but um but that's normal for a newcomer ████ no that not oh not always so you don't think some people come in here guys see Rose's hand first yeah yeah but no I forgot I was gonna say yeah oh no there was a ████ you should not make it up he's Konya now that's a lot of pressure I know we are matching can I take the Baton yeah go ahead take it but it does feel lonely when you don't connect with somebody you're making yourself I'm gonna Gaslight your ass a little bit yeah you're making yourself feel lonely because we accept you we like you we

16:50 think that you Vibe that's why you keep getting invited that's why so the rest of us feel that you are joining in but it's in your own head that you feel that you're not joining enough okay but objectively speaking I'm I don't do the same no no you're a stand-up comedian which is fine no but no in here but it doesn't matter just as a human like when we objectively speaking I don't know how to do the same thing to you guys you're constantly just building this wall between us 100 and that's my point as a construction Builder it's like you keep putting you keep putting these metrics in front Okay really weird and uncomparable you know okay because we've also spent how many hours you think we've spent in the room together so many hours so many ████ hours but you know what I think would would turn it around for you is if we all went and experienced something new for the first time you want to make up well we've all experienced we've all done that without

17:40 you he said new I mean like if he went like if you did an adventure with us and we all were the we're doing something for the first time I think then you would see oh we actually are in the same way like because maybe we'll talk about some things you're not as familiar with but if we were newly dropped into the same experience I think you would go oh ████ we're kind of digesting this very similar 100 that that's interesting but that's interesting you're about to shut it down I caught myself I caught myself has he seen uh uh uh old enough for kisses oh the show I'm talking about I'm not on the same way you just made me feel what I felt that has nothing to do inside jokes giving you information see you're rejecting it before it even gets past you and that hurts my feelings yeah that's how I feel too I can't even look at you with other people too he is creating a wall between us no not just you China are you too shy to get really you're

18:31 treating us like we're Mongolians and you're a big bad China making this big ████ wall and we just want to hang out dude yeah but with other people too is the thing like with other people I just don't feel like oh man people do you mean everybody like uh or Comics you know any co-workers you know anything yeah go ahead oh do you feel like that at parties too like when you like throw yourselves into like scenarios where you just don't know anyone the most anxious thing that's the most dangerous parties yeah like any any place I feel like a lot of people could relate to that though yeah that's what I'm saying I feel like a lot of people do feel the way I feel and you guys just a bunch of ████ bullies yeah man internet bullies but I think that's normal I think you're supposed to if it's a new crowd or you're supposed to walk into the situation expecting that this is going to be like

19:21 we're how do you gauge this like where do I stand with you like I don't like people are figuring that out that's normal right that's normal and then to feel left out is normal when you're when they these guys known each other for so many years and you come in but then also I feel like some people are more thinking about themselves most people are thinking about themselves and they think about you so then I can walk into that situation knowing that everybody here is too busy thinking about how can I impress this person how can I do that that they're not worrying about me so I could come in and I can laugh and just enjoy I think it was just another thing too like I I just give an example because I was I'm just giving example in here but outside too as well I think because my mind I just like maybe I like too many like too deep of a thing I'm

20:11 like I like I'm like because if you have a couple friends that you're like oh I connect I know what you're saying really well you like us we like you too dude a lot that's what you're saying you're like you're nervous because you really like us and you want us to break down the wall that you're building I see Anthony gets it dude he's holding your hand through the whole thing wow he's making you see God right now he wants to impress us dude we we are impressed by it doesn't feel good enough for us or or most people or a lot of people is the thing but then that's something that you're saying you'll feel that no matter where you are huh yeah that's what I'm saying it doesn't matter [Laughter] he's trying to get on the wavelength he's part of the crew dude you're surfing bro I like it wow that's cool it

21:04 means that no matter how much we can go hey dude you fit right now you're awesome yeah yeah there's a skepticism built in because [Music] dude I ████ gave you the heart yeah I can understand that but I think I feel like you know we've all felt like a little bit no you haven't you don't understand some of us here's the wall Hit It come on hit the wall love a bulldozer when I first came on the show I didn't know what the ████ was going on I didn't I just said not even here yeah as a human being but that's everywhere you go like what Joe said you've everyone feels like do you think people actually connect and understand me not the way if you say it like that it's a good example but okay but you not have a person that you like this person gets

21:54 me yes that's what I'm saying people who get me yeah um but I don't expect people to get me yeah I think that's fine yeah yeah but then how nice is it to those people yeah yeah and I just wish I could have that all the time right you gotta build it yeah you gotta that's what I'm saying when you like build it it's not the same huh nothing not titogi I heard tetaki you heard Ted talky you want to try something even though we're totally out of time now who cares watch this watch this watch come sit over here real quick and then if I sit there you're gonna feel weird Energy number one no so much of the room so much of the room's energy has to come this way and then especially with your guests when I was the first to guess I was like also always nervous and thinking about stuff when you sit farther out you get to just hop in when it's convenient I think you were ████ honestly this is the best time I'm such a regular when you sit over there oh my God I feel the wall I feel

22:44 my own walls all right you know what let's add it this way we're gonna initiate you now yeah so you'll never feel left out again give bring that over there just show it okay it's not even just here just just watch it this guy doesn't do effort to like build relationships with people I do go ahead play it there right this is Clint Eastwood yeah check it out 12. 13. do it shut the ████ up

23:38 it says give me more this is to give me more remix oh that's ████ crazy right did you hear what you said though I don't give a ████ what she said she was gonna be 13 in September crazy right shout out Steve Green and uh he's kind of in the club now that's not normal though how do you how does that make you feel well that that's crazy that's inside a movie would you say that's ████ up no that's normal oh I'm on the wave life now I volleyed it up for you you're supposed to knock it out the park and say no that's ████ weird that's not ████ up I'm on the wavelength now no that's not the wavelength we don't we

24:29 don't like that oh oops

// end of tape