0:00 thank you [Music] okay been a lot of hooting and hollering in the tuber scum Community That's What I Call tubers in general tubers come it's been a long time since we got into some tuber scandals well yeah so there's a new trend that I thought we would have an interesting angle on which is there's a hell of a lot of family vlogging hate out there now have you guys seen that why because they're kind of like exploitative people are saying it's exactly people saying it's exploitative the kid doesn't have consent oh and what's up with that so I thought we have a unique perspective obviously I've seen it happen in real life like uh remember we went to playlist live in Florida all right we're all hanging out and I remember it was like 11 o'clock at night and there was a baby still crawling on the floor and
0:51 then the parent was just with the Vlog camera still vlogging I got the shot and I was like it's ████ 11 o'clock at night that's ████ crazy oh is that when there was like we were at that party and the music was like damn there's all these kids on the Dance Floor I'm like what the ████ it's like 2 A.M and there's like eight-year-olds ████ bopping it yeah I'm like good b-roll though I'm so glad you guys got to see that because it is a fascinating world that not many people get to see what it is because it's different from VidCon it's the same ████ when I thought about Playlist Live I thought it was going to be like more like VidCon but it's I think it was different because I didn't see like like tick tockers and all that like that was the beginning that was like the beginning of that yeah yeah kids yeah well there was the whatever the last generation was it was um Vines I believe well the vine stars were there yeah but yeah it was all that it was it's it's the same thing as VidCon but it's just in Florida and the
1:44 there's there's more old school tubers there whereas VidCon has more of like the current crop and all that kind of stuff oh interesting what do you think about family Vlog stuff I don't get why people dude first of all everyone's dramatic about everything now yeah you know like a hundred years ago your dad would take you into a ████ coal mine okay and you were thankful that you could eat at night yeah and like maybe even ████ breathe without coughing or some ████ and nowadays people are like this is so exploitative I'm like bro go look at some pictures of miners kids with ████ soot all over all over the face like four inches all over their face they look like grown men at seven years old ████ smoking a cigarette yeah they're all looking at the camera like the ████ and you're like these are children very strong forms you know yeah
2:34 they're not going to school it's all day ████ taking a picture they die at 55. people want to say it's child labor yeah you got a ████ kid oh you're putting a camera in a kid's face they don't they don't know what's going on they have extravagant birthday parties and they're like they're exploiting them yeah exactly and then you get the kid look at what BART did to his kid's life he gives them a ████ Ford Expedition little Power Wheels hahaha are you kidding me like like what yeah what is like his like documenting his life given taika a lot of cool ████ yeah I don't get it yeah meanwhile some other kid the X-ray can't even show what his lungs look like because it's blocked I'm saying puss that's still that still exists there's still countries where the whole family works from like the time that the kid's born just about yeah also going to be different if like the child really didn't want to be on camera like
3:24 it wasn't about it wasn't having fun you know yeah yeah like that's a different thing like they're actively forcing their kid to be on camera just for the video that's something that where that's something we're really conscious of because we know for sure if we have taika in a video and in the thumbnail the video will do much better but then I think our approach to Vlog has always been more like let's capture memories for ourselves and so it's actually me and Jill's life and if taika comes into it then it's happens organically through our narrative so like taiko's not the star so there's times where it's like Tyga's not in any of our family videos because he's off doing whatever he wants to do and then there's time so literally go hey papa open the camera I'm gonna talk to it like yeah he has something to say oh my God I just go like you don't have the ████ start buddy
4:27 a lot of them started coming out where like it was like it was like kind of ████ up like the real the reality of like because these wholesome dads were just ████ railing all the fans railing the fans and then like all this controversy was coming out and then I thought that pre-covered was already shot there's a whole new generation of them and I think I thought the old ones are gone yeah somebody like Shay cross still at it yeah that even that examples like that when ████ goes bad it ████ boosts the other guys because the market share goes down and then they get to say we're not like that and then everyone gravitates to the people who are good now there are some ████ up things that happen right like the whole like um the parents were pranking their kids like it was going crazy when that Philly got taken away they're they're wilding out really ████ Phil got I'm good um parents were were like fake
5:20 like scaring their kids like actually scaring them yeah the prank ones pranking them and all kinds of really like it was like mental torture there's like footage of the kids saying like I don't want to do this and ████ and somehow that still made the edit I would have edit that ████ out yeah oh he's just being a rascal yeah mistakes were made contact clues were given and I think Phil helped put it all together yeah Philly D started covering it like really intensely one YouTube channel or is it like a bunch of different ones that he could it was a couple of them but there was one in particular that like went down for this big time yeah and then there's a couple years in the bridge of it got child services to take a closer look and they yanked the kids out oh ████ and Phil's a dad so he's like pretty militant like that which I can't I can respect that was the villain origin story of that guy he was like fool yeah big time I wouldn't be surprised I do try to find him or some ████ that guy was pissed
6:11 yeah that's scary what do you think about family vlogging job I think it depends nice by the way this is we're doing an hour-long podcast on this right now so this is JK podcast so this is uh This Is overtime so I like Bart said though I've seen I've seen people that we've known where like they're just not in real life they're like not a loving family at all but they got a ████ brand you or something to do so they go hey guys yeah well ████ if you want to be a ████ perfect couple like us I ████ don't like that at all because I just think like you're you're deceiving your fan base like crazy and that's what I think fans are saying is like hey you painted this picture of a perfect family
7:01 I aspire to be like you guys you gave me so much hope that this exists in the world and then you ████ shattered it by being a fraud you deceived me and I think that's what people out there are getting mad at and I think that's legit on the flip side if they want to document their lives because vlogging is basically video diaries and if you want to do that on a small scale like and and it's for your families because that's how people did originally Vlog it's journaling through video right and it was meant for like your circle of friends or whatever who wanted to tune in and it just got bigger and bigger and bigger so I'm like I don't know man where's the fine line behind just creating content videos that are just now being posted yeah
7:57 no nothing yeah yeah yeah where's the intro dad Zooms in on the microwave uh clock yeah to document the time and it's flashing like that oh God it's on the bottom dad Jesus since the lens cap is still on Dad uh Christmas is over here actually Buckhead yeah using a child too if they're having this perfect family life on camera and then the camera turns off and now this child is in a different reality yeah maybe the kid wants to always be vlogging them there I get to be all like yeah yeah yeah I love that ████ ████ reach down copper ass and ████ like that and I know she ████ is hating me
8:49 on the flip side too though what if you know some people just live miserable lives and they want to take down people that appear happy that's very true so it might be that there's these this sweet little family is authentic and they're just documenting their lives and they're having fun not knowing what kind of evil ████ are out there and they're just constantly bombarded being accused of being a fake family you know like I I don't know it's just a it's just a weird space being in entertainment I like going on family channels and being like you guys are a ████ fake family fake family ████ you I do a fake report for terrorism fake this is all fake fake fake fake fake I'm like the kids are fake and I'm like the kids are gay yeah the dad is gay
9:39 fake and gay holy ████ kids are ████ you know I'm just saying random stuff too yeah because I bet that's ████ up too though I bet somebody some of the comments on there are just wild dude what makes that person oh wait let me write this so I'm not logged in hold on yeah oh wait so you're gonna so you're just gonna feed your kid red 40 what a piece of ████ process hahaha but this this topic makes parts so incredible he's like okay Steve do you personally know um like a family vlogger that you know something about them that the public doesn't I did but then
10:29 you know it kind of came out anyway but it came out a different way than I thought because like you know I don't want to cause anything I don't want to like start anything or kick anything up because I really like this guy yeah but um yeah I'll just won't name the names but yeah um I knew that he had a problem and then it came out in a different way and I was like oh I didn't know you had that problem that's interesting oh so it's a different problem but then the good thing I think is that the fans actually were really mature um someone really disappointed obviously but he let people down and he owned it yeah and then um you know he kind of did like a recovery like tour like like took time to rebuild his life and then um you know I think he's came out on the other end okay so yeah but but I definitely remember you know
11:19 genuinely loving the guy and being like this guy's a great guy love him I didn't know he had that going on yeah um and it was like oh dang that sucks for him but it's not my life right yeah but dude there's a lot of them there is I think being in YouTube or just in entertainment in general it's kind of weird like watching it all happen and then you see their fans and you're like I feel so bad for you people bro people have no ████ idea how crazy some of those YouTube ████ is yeah they have no clue I remember being at VidCon or no I was a playlist and I remember seeing like a tuber full-on trying to get like a girl's phone number and she was like I mean I don't know how old she was like I didn't ████ check her ID but I'm like she looked 12. this ████ looks ████ like not 18 exactly or maybe she's 19 but she
12:11 looks young as ████ bro and you're like 30 dude yeah like yeah kind of wild ████ well uh yeah we've seen a lot of that but I'll never knock yeah and I'll never tell the police anything not kidding there's nothing like there's nothing set there's nothing that's the most common one probably yeah when it comes to family channels I would say like it depends I think what's scary about the approach because I've seen like a whole like different Spectrum you know I've seen we know what goes on behind the scenes is I feel like for us the way that we because I if I already know what channel I would start for taika I would start a gaming channel where he's doing a commentary because him even just getting haircuts and him playing Minecraft he says the funniest ████ and I'm like dude this ████ would go viral
13:01 like crazy and I tell the show my butt but he's like really really fun but I also know like once something becomes a actual operation yeah like me seeing other YouTubers where the couples got into a fight but now they have a Samsung brand deal so they have to pretend to lovey-dovey to sell a ████ vacuum or some ████ I know those things happen right so like because I know that ████ happens when you have a kid and you have a channel and it's an operation you're not immune to that there's gonna be a time where in the middle of me disciplining taika or he didn't do good at school or something like that I'm like oh ████ we got this brand deal that we have to do not have to put on a headset on the video so it's like this very weird artificial world so we're
13:51 lying there yeah so for us I think we approach it with childhood first we want to make sure we preserve the family and the childhood first and if he ever comes to me like hey my friends have a YouTube channel can I do have a YouTube channel okay I'll help you this is what I've been doing for the last 10 years but I don't want to be the person with the carrot on the stick going this is what you should do I want it to be led by him so that's kind of like our approach whereas like when I look at some of the other uh channels where there's really kid heavy it makes me kind of scared the type of Dynamics they have to balance because who knows what that yeah who knows how that changes yeah even like just in in commercials like in Hollywood and stuff like that right yeah kids could be throwing a tantrum yeah just like bad behavior but dude there's Millions on the line for this thing we need him to ████ act we need him to
14:41 throw stop his tantrum so there's people that like were like yeah I had to pull my kid out because the way that they were treating them it was like a ████ royal God yeah that was like what do you want what do you want uh you want chocolate yeah you want a puppy you want this we'll do this right now we'll do it for you and then like they ████ like oh ████ yeah yeah and then and then so they're just like on a high all the time because it's like how do we keep these kids pumped up on a high so they're acting they're creating they're happy they're not throwing Tantrums they're reading their lines so it's like that to me is the ████ up part is like yeah there is a lot of exploitation going on yeah but at the same time if you're making millions for your family shut the ████ up and make that money like like Ryan's world like that kid that's the thing I always think about because like the kids he does all the
15:33 toy reviews but I'm sure when the parents started the ████ Channel there's like 30 million a year or something yeah like I bet they didn't think it was gonna lead to what he's doing like right because I'm sure he's doing TV he's doing YouTube he's doing how old is he now he's got toys in Target yeah like I see his face at Target you know yeah and you're like holy ████ this kid is a beast that's the scariest thing because I've seen lots of interviews with his parents explaining what their process is and they talk about how like oh you know we make sure it's something that he wants to do it's like but you guys have been doing this for over a decade or some ████ so like 30 ml a year like it's been his idea every ████ year because I remember being a kid and changing my goddamn mind all the time and it's and it the thing is like I'm not doubting that like okay let's say that they're telling the complete truth with their Dynamic that's more ████
16:23 valuable than anything they've ever done share what the ████ you did as a parent yeah yeah because that's the Goldberg and you found something so early yes sell parenting classes and you were able to maintain a healthy method right but do you think they sat there and like waiting for him to say something he's like I want a toy Target come on yeah I haven't I know what I want I want to try out my own twin Tark so Ryan we got this opportunity from Target it's a genius oh my God I'm so glad somebody came up with that idea on his own do you guys remember John and Kate Plus Eight yeah yeah you were here you love them huh Heroes oh dude so my wife has been showing me all his interviews that he's been doing since like uh just talking about how the whole process of the TV show that ████ is crazy yeah bro and he's just talking about how like
17:13 I think he was more on the side of preserving their childhood and all that he was like dude we can't be doing this too much because I think it gotten out of hand with a lot of brand deals and ads and all that you don't have a normal life anymore yeah and then the mom was like no we're gonna go all in TV and he he says she's like a narcissist did you see when that did you see when she was mad at him for breathing yeah yeah that ████ happened to me before and then you see that no way someone got mad at me for breathing what the ████ what was the situation that's a situation that she hated him yeah yeah I wasn't even with this no we're not we're not even with each other oh just a person no I was just listening to people talk in a circle and I'm just like foreign because I think I drank too much coffee and I was having like coffee caffeine anxiety yeah yeah just just like a nice
18:03 deep breath like yeah like that doing that take a deep one and then later on I got pulled to the side I have a conversation and then they're like I don't appreciate you ████ doing that and I'm like what did I do who said this say their name and then they're like say their ████ name you know like I know you were disappointed I know you didn't you didn't you were like thinking about me and you were disappointed in me and you you didn't like this and I'm just like heard of I mean this is the weirdest conversation I've ever had and I'm all like how the ████ do you even read my mind because yes I wasn't I'm just kidding no I was like I was like how did you even come up with this imagination how'd you make this about you and it becomes fact in your brain and then you're confronting me to apologize for something that I didn't even think or do did you go oh that's about this that's about this
18:54 before that's not c c that's what you do dude sounds really angry yeah yeah but this is mentally a person that that clip who was this male that clip was it's like that wow it's like it's like that John that you saw it right yeah where he's just like ████ being a dude just blanking out she goes why are you doing that like why are you breathing why are you breathing so hard like you don't have to breathe so ████ hard and she imitates him and you're like oh that's my tellity yeah but you're getting 40K an episode ████ they were the first they were the first ████ like family Vlog and get your ass on camera that's like the brand deal thing if couples are mad at each other yeah they
19:44 have to keep recorded a couple brand deals when we're ████ pissing each other that happens but you guys you guys pissed at each other's relatively healthy yeah it we're it's very productive and we off and we often talk about it afterwards like on our podcast even so it's really I mean there's a difference between fighting and actually couples being disgusted and hating because nothing's wrong with being mad at each other or fighting that's how you figure relationship and actually hating is yes I think to me it's you guys actually fight on camera and off camera and it's funny but you still love each other right like I don't like fraudulent relationships where you pretend to being this perfect couple and then the world looks at you and goes bad goals one day I wanna I wanna be like that and then you're you're also giving advice and you're also like yeah if that makes me sick you know that actually happened to us recently we were
20:35 doing a podcast episode right and someone's like hey what do I do me and my husband haven't been ████ and we were like we ain't been ████ dude we're like we're like Nikki started doing the World Series of Poker like she's so stressed out and she we ain't ████ right now like a little straight up we'll tell you but that's what I like about me and Nikki's relationship we don't have to be all guarded about ████ we're like no hey we ain't ████ like that's awesome I did get it in recently oh yeah boy that's the World Series just chilling out it's over because the World Series ended we've seriously banged the next but not the big a though imagine every time you guys see Nikki you start doing these little clues about
21:25 anal about how she should probably do animals did you do it yet did you do it yet nope all right hey have you seen this book on like how taking anal is not that bad that's the title it's like wow Nick's really like subversive with this suggestion [Music] foreign okay
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