0:00 without the studio. >> All right, fine. I'll do the gay movie with face. >> You got to say and you got to say the line. Say the line. >> Fine. Oh, my bum bum. My bum. >> No. No. >> All right, Giani. Now, you've been in the game for quite a while now. What's your view on how AI is being implemented? >> You think it's going to take your job away? >> I think it will take some jobs. It won't take actors jobs because like people like stars. people like actors and people being like they go see someone because oh this person's in it cool I like them as a person they're cool you can't really replicate that like sure they're trying to do like oh we're going to make a AI star but it's not a real person and deep down no one's going to feel connected to that so I don't think it'll ever take away that I do think there >> yeah nobody's connected to anime characters out there that's for sure
0:50 you're probably good >> I feel like he's connected to anime characters >> yeah he loves you know I mean you ever be online for >> people are hella >> funny because you could totally take it that way. Like you're the nerd you're talking about. >> You don't have to. >> I'm not >> cuz he's offended. >> No, but but but that but that's also like a small weird community. Like those guys are weirdos. >> Those guys are >> weirdos. >> Hey, weirdos, man. >> I'm joking. >> It's a growing weirdo community. >> Yeah, I guess. But I think like if you think of the masses like they like, oh, Sophie Turner's in that movie. >> Oh yeah, >> Katie Sagal's in that movie. Giani Pill's in that movie. It's Trust. It's coming out August 22nd. I want to go see it, you know? >> Right. Another plug. >> Yeah, >> that's true. Like sometimes people will go see a movie because of how they know the person in real life, not necessarily
1:41 other >> movies. Dude, people are going to see movies cuz you know, uh, NBA players are in it. They're like, "Oh, LeBron is in this." You know what I mean? Like >> like Uncut Gems. >> Exactly. >> Like Space Jam 2. >> Kevin Garnett. Yeah. >> Yeah, that's true. What about like uh how do you feel about it? Like the jobs that it does affect? >> I I I don't know. I think I think that it it should not be allowed in entertainment at all. >> Wow. At all. >> Not even script writing? >> No, I don't I don't think so. I think >> I think there should legally have to be a writer attached to everything, especially like I don't know. I just feel like it's art and it's very like a personalized thing and you know it's creativity and now you're just being like oh let's and then that I feel like Ozark was AI >> like I felt like last season
2:32 >> when Ozark came out no the first season when Ozark came out I was like this feels like AI because they're like what do people like >> drugs >> Breaking Bad Breaking Bad >> Jason Baitman >> but that's kind of what always happens right like there's always clones of like like when like >> like successful formulas they try. >> Yeah. Like Rambo came out and then like a bajillion like one man versus the army movies came out like >> Yeah. But for some Yeah, I get what you mean and I agree with that. But for some reason Ozark just felt very inauthentic. >> Really? >> I like that. >> Even the early season >> I like. >> Maybe that's just it just could just be my I thought it was good, but like for some reason a lot of those shows like have felt a little inauthentic to me. >> Sounds like you hated the show actually. >> Yeah, it sounds like you really didn't like it. No, I like Jason Mman and I and whoever created that show is probably really great at their job and I'd like to work with him someday. But >> people like people like drugs and Jason
3:22 Baitman and like Yeah. >> But I don't know. I think AI should not be allowed in the industry at all. Maybe for editing >> a little bit of editing to like set up, oh, this is the first cut. But there should be an editor that's attached to that. They have to oversee it and they get paid. That's just how I feel. Well, some stunt mans ended up having to sign >> like when we had ended up needing to sign a AI thingy. >> Yeah. >> Just to use their face >> for the background. >> Oh. >> Instead of bringing us back. >> Yeah. >> They would just use AI. >> Like if they have to tweak the scene. >> It's so crazy to me. >> Yeah. >> That's so crazy to me. >> How come AR art is like so distinct and you just know that AI did it? Cuz I don't know if they can still >> Next year it'll probably look different. Here's my here's my hot take. Nothing ever works. That's why like they're
4:12 going to make everything automated, brother. I was trying to call ████ Delta Airlines the other day. It took it re sent me to 87 people and then I was at American Express. I'm like, >> "Bro, Uber Eats. I Uber eats something a couple weeks ago. The restaurant wasn't even open. It never came." >> Were you screaming on the phone like, "Give me an Indian. I don't want to talk to this AI." >> I just feel like nothing ever works. So, how are we going to make everything automated if nothing that is normal works? Look at all the problems you're having with Whimo now. >> Like nothing ever works correctly. There needs to be people attached to ████ That's just how I feel. >> Isn't art sometimes though a guy splashing paint on a canvas? >> Yes. >> So isn't that still art as well? >> That guy's a ████ >> Well, right. And I don't dis I don't disagree with you, but like that guy still sells a painting for $15,000. And like some people do find value in it. >> Well, who's more of a ████ The guy splashing the paint or the person buying it?
5:02 >> The person buying it. But I think there are some people that like will paint that like I I don't know. I think people see the the world from different lenses and some they the guy who painted it and the guy who bought that definitely see the world in the same lens cuz he probably was like oh I just got broken up and then like this is how I feel and then that person's like I see what he did and then that's their money. >> So my point that you just made is that there's still a market for it even though you don't like it. Like there's still a market for it just the same way that like I don't really like the Transformers movies but hella people disagree. Exactly. and they love them. >> And my little brother, he's slightly autistic. I'm not kidding. He is. He's on the spectrum a little bit. And those are his favorite things. >> We'll put socks on his hands. We need to put socks on his hand. >> You don't want him scratching his face or nothing, >> brother. Brother, if you if you see ████ Sh if he sees Shilab Buff or he sees a ████ car turning into something, that ████ >> What's your favorite one?
5:52 >> Which of them? >> The Transformers. >> First one. >> Yeah, me too. >> Yeah, first one. Yeah, that was the most. >> Did you like Did you like Bumblebee? >> Yeah, >> I liked it, too. But see, that's what I'm saying. Am I autistic? >> But this is what I'm saying about AI stuff. Like, just because I don't like it doesn't mean the world didn't just beat me up because that movie made a billion dollars. >> Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Now, the market has it's taking jobs from so many people and it's like, it's not just because someone likes it. It's actually going to be the new normal where there's no editors, there's no writers, there's no anything. And it's just one guy that works at Paramount putting into a computer. >> Yeah. And and I think because it hasn't happened yet, that will be very fascinating when it happens. But it's almost like it gives for okay you ever make something right and then it goes through many filters right and and sometimes in those filters you lose the vision that you had because it goes through so many different departments.
6:43 >> Yeah. It's honestly 75% >> there's like the project that you think you're making and the project you're actually >> so there's almost a beauty to being able to to hold the reigns to this thing that you had the idea for and you get to like take it from from from the script to the end yourself. There's almost something about it that I'm almost fascinated to see. I don't know that it will be better or superior in any way because I almost think there's a beauty to filtering it down to the different departments and you guys all creatively make something together, but I've never seen anything that was just done by one human before necessarily other than short films. So, I'm just fascinated by the the concept of it. I don't know that it will ever work, but I think it it actually enables a lot of people like I think of of a kid right now who's maybe watching this, right? And they're probably playing a video game right now and they're like, "Whoa, Steve Green, call me out." But but like what if you have a movie what if you have a movie in you like legit what if you have a movie in you that you
7:34 couldn't do on your own like you you you can't beat Tarantinoho and like you know you he was able to find the right people at the right time and raise funds and then he got to hire the right people to do his project. What if you have nothing like that? You maybe have a computer though and you could use these different AI tools to actually make your vision happen. I think that's laziness. And I think it and I think it turns into like what what now we're seeing like super famous streamers who have no work ethic. They don't care. They like even like rappers. You think of like Lil Xan of someone's like just like a mama rapper who like was able to just make a beat on the thing. They're not real artists. They're just people that are like, "Oh, I could do this now because it's easy." >> Yeah. But I used to think that about like people who made stuff with Legos and they did like little Lego shorts and stuff. But they were right and I was wrong. Like the market spoke so much that that's like a time- tested thing that like everyone does now. Like the
8:24 people always recreate trailers with Legos now. >> Well, the AI doesn't do the work. You still need to give it prompts. You still need to have a vision. You still need to >> I could technically go into a chat GBT right now and like write me 10 pages of this guy at the mall with this girl and this and then he'll just write the whole thing and I go, "Oh, I could just fix this and this." I just think it breeds laziness because you think of someone who like like like Sylvester Stallone for an example who wrote Rocky and ████ did it all himself and was like, I'm not not going to be in this movie. I need to be in this movie. Like that's resilience. And that's someone that's like, oh, I >> guess who would have told you 20 years ago he can't make movies anymore? It was Sylvester Salone. He had to make Rocky Balboa and they he was getting nos and nose and nose because he hadn't had a hit in a long time. You know what I'm saying? So like if you could enable people to just make something on their own like or at least in give them the power to make something without the studio. >> All right, fine. I'll do the gay movie
9:14 with fake. >> You got to say and you got to say the line. Say the line. >> Fine. Oh my bum bum. My bum. >> No, no. You're changing it. You're changing. >> Oh my ████ >> But then like isn't it isn't it kind of funny to say on their own when really it's sourcing from like millions of other people and they don't even know who they are. I think that's the part that's weird to me is that like you can go, "Oh, I made my thing and it's really good." But it's literally ripping off stuff that you've never even seen >> and you don't even know you're ripping it off. Like remember how like AI AI will always source from like everything that it thinks is good. >> But if you don't even let's say I don't even watch enough movies and I'm just like yeah, here's the thing. >> Well, they put in a really good prompt though. >> Yeah, >> that's the whole art of it. >> I think that's that's the part that that it's weird. It's like yeah, you you are writing the prompt and you are dreaming up this like whole thing beginning to end, but you don't even know what it's ripping from. >> Well, I I kind of view it like this. So, like when people started DJing or like
10:06 remixing, they were like, "You're not a musician. You're just taking music from other people and putting it together." And I think that with tech, there's always going to be this kind of critique of like, "You're not really doing anything." But they're just creating a whole new thing. We just don't know what it is yet. >> Yeah. Once upon a time, there was only classical music, right? And then and then and then those guys look down on everything else after that. But they're the market has spoken. Nobody even listens to that ████ anymore, right? Except for Ben Shapiro. Hey, we're talking about like Yeah. Too much in my gut. >> Got them. >> Did you know that your VPN can still track your internet history? Mhm. You'll be browsing around and you're like going into naughty sites and guess what? Your mom is using the same family computer and she's like, "What? You be looking at taihotties.com?" Naughty boy. You think they can't see
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11:47 prompt and make something dope and curate the dope ████ And then from there, we'll get to see like a whole new kind of group coming out of it. I think so. Yeah. That's the part that's weird is that if it's if it's taking from everything that happened in the past, >> that means nothing else will ever be made. Like if people just only do that, >> that's the most movies will ever make ever. >> But isn't that what humans do anyway with stories? Oh, >> still going back to the >> But then the new thing is the new thing that they make, right? And it kind of >> Well, no, it's that's the it's the source. If there'll be no new source for it to eat from. >> I see what you're saying. >> It'll just eat its own source. >> Yeah. People aren't creating a new source out of their own >> databases like that. It's data. Yeah, but that that that's I mean people could have said that in the ' 80s, but then all the movies we've had since the8s we >> Well, that's like the argument. I didn't see ████ Interstellar be made in the '8s.
12:38 >> My dog. I love it. >> I just I just I think it's pretty interesting that like after it eats everything and then people stop creating because AI is the easiest thing. Okay, I get what you're saying. I don't I don't think it's going to be the only thing. So here here's here's an example, right? Like >> um we went to the digital realm with music, but it didn't end acoustic. It didn't end, you know, like >> No. Yeah. >> So So that's what I think is going to happen is we're still going to have like storytelling with human beings. Um we're still going to have like even like old school just like oral storytelling, right? Like not even like film. We're going to have all that ████ AI is just going to be a whole different way. And it's going to carve out a whole new thing. Kind of like >> Yeah. There's TV, but then there's now YouTube. Now there's short form. >> It's like when green screen came out. >> Exactly. >> It be it was seen as hack. If you if you remember it was seen like oh they're not
13:28 really doing the work, right? Look what this ████ saying. >> Lazy. >> They didn't really go to Persia. >> Yeah. But George Lucas is like this is the only way for me to do my vision is if I do it this way. >> No. Go to space. >> So it's it's a tool or a crutch depending on how you use it. >> Amen. >> Yeah. >> And it can be exactly that. And and just like junk food is, right? Like there's junk food, there's a bad example of everything. Like there's a bad way of doing movies and TV shows, but then I think we'll find some diamonds in the rough as well. >> It's true that you said that the market does determine that like they're not going to stop doing it if it makes the most money. >> Hell no. Especially if you can cut the margins down. And but mostly what I'm talking about is empowering the people who maybe do have a movie in them that could never get it made, right? like like I had to be a ████ tuber scum and like put in years and years of work on on tuber stuff. And then because I had enough subs, I was able to leverage
14:19 that with a studio and like get movies made. But like if I didn't do all that, I couldn't have done ████ So like that's what I'm saying. Like these people maybe have a movie in them and they could have the tools and the resources to really have no excuses anymore. It's like you you don't need a camera guy or whatever the hell. You don't need like special effects people. You have all the tools. What's your excuse now, ████ Go make your movie. Like I I'm I'm fascinated to see what will happen. I think a lot of people will be empowered by it. >> So the maybe the maybe a good equivalent is that a lot of people had photography in them, but they just never had a good camera before Instagram was a thing. >> You know, like how everyone's a ████ photographer or video like Yeah. You're like kind of defaulted into it. >> But yeah, and I don't know if it'll actually take away from like movie stars and humans, you know what I mean? >> Who's the movie star anymore? Tom Cruz and who? >> Me. >> That's true. And you and then then hit >> and Zia
15:10 >> cuz I I do I do think that people can like a icon or AI because look at all the ████ Only Fans AI girls that are crushing it. Like they're not they people know that I don't know if people actually know that they're not really >> but they're making a ████ ton of money. >> Yeah, but that's that's tits though. That's sick. >> Yeah, that's tits are always tits are always going to be sick. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> It's different. Plus, it's very similar to like I guess anime like he was saying like how he likes >> how much he >> Yeah, dude. Like think about it. Mickey Mouse is a fictional character and look at his following is crazy. I got more than Mickey on the gram, though. >> Whoa. What do you want to say about that? >> Tell them. Tell them. Well, maybe cuz he's old. >> Wait, no way, dude. I don't believe that. >> That was before your time. >> No, I I've been around, brother. >> They definitely AI will take away though. I still think that's the whole point is it will take away from the from the industry. No, you'll take jobs.
16:01 That's that's what's ████ for. >> Yeah. >> That's the whole reason people want it. >> They will take and give >> like that's the whole reason that like the people on top want to do it cuz it's going to streamline so much ████ for them too. >> No question about it. >> But also too, you can I'm I'm almost having fun now just arguing. But um you could also argue it's going to save hella lives because for example if we automated driving like you wouldn't have car accidents anymore like necessarily like you'd have some room for percentage of error I'm sure and stuff like that. Oopsy daisies but like imagine it's all automated to the point where you get rid of traffic overnight. Like you could everyone could drive within a dime space of each other and everyone's going like 70 m an hour and nobody's getting an accident. I definitely agree that sooner or later a generation will appear that will see that it's so pointless to control your own car and they'll see it as as dumb that you want to manually
16:51 control your car and you're going to hurt it'll be archaic you're going to hurt people >> yeah they're literally going to be like wait people used to drive these themselves yeah it's so >> and they just get in accidents wow what's that like >> it's called the train >> I know you won't have that kid in high school anymore that wrapped a car around a tree everyone has that or Hollywood the other night when someone just plowed the crowd because they felt like it >> bro So, >> wait, what happened? Take the train. >> At the Vermont, at the Vermont in East Hollywood, some some guy who got kicked out of the club got pissed. He came back with his car and just rammed like 30 people that were standing outside. >> Did he kill him? >> I don't know if anybody >> Heard a lot of people, but he also got shot. >> They pulled him out of the car that beat the shot. >> Well, you mean like a like the guy in line? >> No. Yeah. >> I don't know if he was inside, but he he got asked to leave at some point for >> No. No. Who shot him? >> Some the whole crowd. Everybody pulled out >> Oh, like some guy in line just pulled out a gun. No, like not in line, but
17:41 when it happened, everyone rushed the car. They pulled him out. They beat his ass. And at some point, someone shot him. >> But he wasn't dead.
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