0:05 Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys, where you guys know Sam Altman, uh the Open AI CEO. He just Yeah, that's his boy. He just had two completely different uh attacks happen on his home, and one of them's for sure suspected of murder. So, now this is kind of like we've officially definitely entered that era where there's like people that are worried about humanity's extinction from AI, therefore >> Extremists, yeah. >> From ChatGPT? >> The head of the snake type stuff. Yeah. Like we're for I mean, what do you think? Like >> Well, I think he killed his partner, allegedly. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> It sounded like it. >> Revenge case? Is his partner's someone on the partner side coming back to get him? >> Nah, I think it's just a crazy person that thinks that if they kill Sa- Sam
0:56 Altman, they'll alter time. They'll like save the world. >> Prevent singularity from happening. >> Yeah. >> Well, there's still Claude, there's still Grok, there's still like I don't know what the ████ >> The way this this person chose to do it was by throwing a lit Molotov cocktail at the home. >> Hey, that's ████ cool. >> That's gangster. >> It's not very practical. >> The suspect, Daniel Moreno Gamma, was motivated specifically by hatred of AI technology, according to the complaint. >> Yeah, I get it, but >> Damn. >> that's not the way to do it. You're not really going to change it. >> You think his job was threatened by AI? Like data entry or some ████ >> Everyone's job is threatened by AI. >> Not podcasters. My favorite is the the Muay Thai trainers. They're like they said AI's going to take my job, and he's standing there with pads, and there's like a person who's punching him in the stomach, and he's like, "Good luck."
1:50 He's like, "AI's not taking my job. No one wants to do this." >> I think like plumbers are safe. Everybody else, we're all ████ >> Blue collar? Like pretty much all blue collar tradesmen, right? Carpent carpentry, electrician, >> Well, yeah, they're the ones building the data centers, too. >> Tattoo artists, >> Tattoo artists, yeah. >> Hair cutters, >> Hair cutters, yeah. >> Nail doers, >> I mean, we'll be okay. >> Foot massagers, >> Even all of those businesses are going to be affected fully by AI. Everyone's going to be affected. >> So, even even the idea of like the industry being affected or the way that like a plumber's going to generate leads for new clients or how they're going to be getting like, you know, like everything is going to be AI influenced and stuff like that. >> still just the surface. Like, let's talk
2:40 about the dark ████ reality though that that motivated this guy, which is more of like society being steered to towards a more um a different civilization that's ruled by AI and not You know what I mean? Yeah. >> thinking we're all going to end up being just >> Be beneath it. >> Yeah, these biological organisms that are getting like leached on by a AI and they're like the overruling class, probably. >> We've already had the discussion about jobs ████ decade ago, but like now we're at will humanity be at risk? >> Cuz AI God, everything is going to be like you have to get permission and all that. >> Are you red pill or blue pill? Are you Are you Are you trying to eat that steak or you trying to like wake up into Zion? >> I'm red all the way. Which one's the red? Is it the steak or is it the Zion?
3:30 >> Zion. >> Yeah, red's the wake up. >> Red's the awake one. But, >> Blue pill is like you're going to stay sleeping in the matrix, but >> yummy steak, even if it's not >> It's not real, but it tastes real. >> Well, you could still tap into the matrix and eat a steak. >> Yeah, yeah, you you could, yeah. But, you're also waking up to like, I mean, that looks Zion looks tough, man. It looks like hard mode. It's about like what's what are humans going to use it for and more about will humans lose control of it completely? And it starts to do ████ we don't want it to do. Um, I think that's inevitable. I'm not trying to be dark about it. >> Yeah. >> Like I just I think that's where it's going. I think Yeah. >> Yeah, but what if I'm in a forest? >> I think that you'll be slower to be affected by it, but at the same
4:22 >> What if I choose to go off-grid? >> Okay. >> So, what's AI going to do now? >> All right. >> AI can't do nothing. >> What are you going to do? >> I'm going to ████ make bread in the forest. >> 20 years in the forest. >> There's probably going to be like off-the-grid communities that are just like rejecting this and then they're like, "I don't want to be a part of that." And then all of the major cities are going to be tapped into the AI grid. >> I think you're right, but I with the exponential speed at which AI is going to change and alter everything >> It's going to be so fast. >> Amazon ████ force people within like 3 years. >> It's going to It's going to happen before you can pack your ████ to go to the forest. >> Red people, they're actually still They're like asking chat GP How do I set up a well?
5:12 They're not doing it. They're still incorporating AI into going off-the-grid. All right, last question before I shut you off. >> Well, it's now become unavoidable. Like there's no There's no such thing as like I'm I don't use AI. >> Yeah. >> No such thing. >> It's everything. It's in everything, yeah. It's just a part of life, but then the the question is is how do you feel about these people that are seeing it so extremely that they feel like they're protecting humanity from a necessary evil? >> The way that I see it is I think AI to me is just like the dot-com bubble. So, to me like my cousin, he was a computer engineer. He's like maybe another 10 years, 15 years older than me, and he was telling me, this is when I was like in junior high, he's like, "Dude, if you don't make your own personal website, you're ████ Someone else is going to own Bart Kwan.com, and you're going to be f█████." And I'm like, ████ 10
6:03 going, "I don't think I really care." And then later on, it's like, yeah, you have all these websites, and then they all come crashing down, and then the ones that work be implemented into society. And I think that's what's going to happen with AI. >> Shut the ████ up. >> Exactly. Bart Kwan launched it, like, I'm doing just fine without having a Bart without having a Bart Kwan.com, right? >> buy that URL? >> I don't know. >> You know what's a You know what's a interesting way to look at in in this in that same in that same fashion? So, the way that there was a dot-com bubble, and people were like warning about it, the exponential speed of AI is so much faster. Think about a new dot-com bubble every ████ few weeks. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? So, you can't even keep up with what the dot-com bubble is. There is no singular dot-com bubble anymore. It's all just like different ████ over and over and over and over and over. It's crazy.
6:54 >> So, I think it's like if cuz everything I think is still dictated by core concepts, like supply and demand, how human psychology works, everything is is driven by that. So, if you can stay on top of that, then I think uh you'll be fine, but I think people that are ████ and are trying to kill people, they're they think that AI will overtake humans, but I don't think it ever will. >> I think we're going to see way more of that. I think we're going to see way more of extremists that are like almost like the way that you used to have suicide bombing threats and scares, you'll have that, but from like anti-tech people. For sure. >> It's going to happen, and I I mean, think about it like this. Uh the rate at which AI is taking over everything that we are participating in.
7:44 It's like it's in it's been in our iPhones and everybody just gets in and participates. You could be anti you could be looking at social media and and and building a hate for it while being affected by it. It's teaching you to hate it. >> It's already incorporated into it. >> You can't stop what how big this behemoth of like a freight train is. And and the realistic thing like I have we all have the same reason to also like not be pro AI for like various things. Like the way that the money in the ecosystem is working on it the for for all the data and the energy and stuff it's going to just make everything that we live everything's just going to be more expensive and we're going to be paying because some ████ somewhere are like making stupid apps measuring people's butts against each other. And I'm like yo selfishly we're going to fall into that anyway. We might as well be some other
8:34 ████ that are also using it to our advantage in that same time because it's the wild wild west right now, you know? So so we're going to have our extremist that like genuinely believe and who knows in hindsight they might have been right. >> I also don't think AI is is a enemy the way some of these guys think. >> People are enemy and people you it's like guns, right? It's like a gun. It's like it's a >> Yeah, it's like getting mad at the gun versus the person using the gun against you. Yeah. >> it's inevitable. It's going to be an ongoing war. >> Yeah, that's one of the things where like if you recognize Sam Altman as a Bill Gates or someone or an Elon Musk and you you're not wrong when you think I could change history by erasing this person. >> They're going to slow down. >> not wrong. That's why it's like he may not be as guarded yet as some of the other like players. So if you are trying to do this it's like kind of scary that
9:25 you might have a shot. >> But you got to you got it doesn't stop the whole operation. They stupid. >> No, it doesn't but it but it ████ it's a big symbol of the revolution. >> Oh. >> Yeah. >> You I think what's really interesting that the a lot of people don't fully understand, especially in a very politically drawn America, is that the AI models and stuff, the LLMs that are being created over here, they're actually trying hard, harder, harder, allegedly, to like put guardrails, restrictions. They're already running into the the lawsuits of people like using the LLMs in order to build like at-home bombs or whatever. So, they're they're being they're being hella scrutinized. Meanwhile, you know, you got freaking like probably engineers in China or something like that that are making that are making the same LLMs, intelligent AI systems, that don't have the same guardrails. They have no
10:15 no morals over there. No, I didn't say that. >> Well, they're not even allowed to have morals unless they're get permission. >> But, you know what I'm saying? Like it like it's a whole different >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> is thinking about it, you have to already know that it's a hundred times in front of you. So, like that's I'm not trying to be like a like >> the world's going to end anyway, therefore let's sing Kumbaya, but like >> it AI is going to happen. What what are you going to do? >> But then, what about like when you have people like AOC and other like liberal politicians that are trying to put legal stops on on progress? Have you seen that? >> Yeah. >> So, like when you think about it like America versus China, like then you can kind of see a perspective that's like, "Okay, I understand that like even though this thing has a lot of scary implications or society will change a
11:05 lot." Nothing is a worse result than moving down a whole ████ category in terms of like where your country is in the world globally. That's probably the worst result. I think. >> Cuz it's like being in second grade and you're like, "I'm against steroids." But then, your bully is taking steroids and you're like, "F███, maybe I should take steroids, too." >> But like that just has such huge economic ████ impact that you're just going to be complaining about not having all these things and you may not be able to connect it to the fact that it was because a country beat you in the space race to something bigger, you know? That's the scariest part to me and that we have actual politicians getting votes that are trying to just stop the progress of it. >> And who knows what their real incentive is? >> Yeah. >> They're just saying things cuz they're going to get votes, but what do they
11:55 really believe? Who knows? >> same people that are also making millions and millions in stocks. >> Exactly. >> Come on. Like let's not kid ourselves. Like it's kind of It's It's messed up to think that like even with like you said, they're going to add all these things to kind of make the AI development as clean as possible, but we don't stand a chance, man. >> Sometimes I believe we're in like a triple blue pill world. Like you take Like let's say we're already three blue pills in. So you take one red pill, you're still two blue pills in. You know what I mean? That's how what I feel. And then you just like cuz we just all learned about ████ whatever, right? And then like they've been around for many decades. And okay, what's behind that? And then you take another pill and you're like, "Oh my god." >> Lost child.
12:45 >> It takes so long to get to real Zion. >> Yeah. >> ████ it, dude. >> That's why it's like As much as you can't really do You really can't do anything about it. Like And it sucks to admit which is why even though I don't advocate for what this guy ████ did, I do respect that he took action. >> just complaining. Dangerous. >> I respect people that like are like, you know, like if you don't like what Sneako says, you go find him and you sock him in the face. It's not good to do, but I respect that you went offline and tried to handle some ████ >> I agree. Like he did something in Zion. >> Right. It's like But But don't But don't do that. >> I think it's ineffective, but you you know that this dude's down. Like >> Yeah. like >> hate all these people that just ████ all day. >> It's like you. do anything. like Luigi. Like yeah, don't do that. But damn, >> Hey. But damn. >> You know what I mean? Like he didn't he
13:36 wasn't commenting for the rest of his life. >> you a good example of what I do back is recently the Irish truckers, they had their protest and then they weren't getting any ████ groceries because they wouldn't move and they're like, we want to get ████ stop charging us so much for the diesel. And then I'm like, yeah, that's effective versus sitting on a computer and b███████ all day. That's not doing anything. >> Sure. Yeah, find your less dangerous cuz you know what the world is telling you? The world is telling you no matter how wrong what these AI people are doing whatever, society's going to deem it more wrong to throw a Molotov cocktail at their house or more wrong to like shoot them or something, you know? So it's like you're going to be punished for it. Like >> Because I think with every technological breakthrough, whether it's AI, whether it's the atomic bomb, whether it's nuclear fission, there're always going to be more evil consequences than good,
14:26 but you still have the good. You know what I mean? Every time humanity has thought of something ████ new, more people perverted that thought into like evil ████ You it's inescapable. You can create the most like benevolent technology you ever could. There's more people that want to use it to cause destruction, right? AI is the same way. It's just another one of those. It just has Like at least we have access to it. At least it's not like one of those things where only the government can have it, you know? At least like we're able to play the game.
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