0:00 every single officer that I spoke to they say the same exact thing is I wish more people took matters into their own hands for self-defense for being armed I'm like if the police themselves are saying that I wish more citizens would have guns and do this I'm like why don't you listen to the people that are actually taking care trust the experts Joe they are the experts [Music] right welcome back to another episode of careful boys today we have with us Mr Aram Cho [Applause] thanks for having me officer AR officer AR officer Aram Cho uh you're out of the Elman Police Department yeah did you grow up in Elman no my association with Elman is that my dad had a video shop there for like 12 years just your you know your VHS you know standard porn
0:51 section oh with the with the beaded curtain yeah I grew up I grew up fast but uh uh my grew up really close I lived in Hambra uh forever oh sgv yeah toille high school and uh just wanted to stay in the area I I my first agency with the LA was the LA County Sheriff's and back then when you apply you want to go with whoever the biggest baddest agencies are and it was your LAPD or the sheriff's and um so you know you don't know what you don't know until you're in and it wasn't for me it was it's easy to get lost at a large Department what do you mean by like lost cuz you could be the hardest working dude in the world but unless you have a personal association with someone at the top you could be completely Overlook of politics a lot of politics and um so I wanted to go to I I made a lot of friends in law enforcement and I saw that at the smaller
1:41 agencies um you get recognized and it's promotions are based on Merit and your reputations based on Merit and when you go to an agency like at the time when I went to Elman it was 160 officers so everybody from the top down knew everybody's work product and that was me I just wanted to I wanted to make a name for myself well in perspective like so people know the LA sheriff department is like 40,000 or something or no um let's see it's about 7 to 9,000 deputies about the same as LAPD in terms of officers but the big thing about the county is the county territory is huge right and it goes all the way up to Lake Los Angeles which is the border of you San Marino and LA county in the desert and it goes all the way down to the beach and so yeah if you want variety that's awesome because you can if you're tired of one station you can go to the other um but you know for me I wanted to
2:31 be invested in the community and if I'm going to work somewhere I want to know like generationally like he you're this guy's son I used to wrap up your dad back then and he you know if he ended up being an knucklehead like the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree so and just for example like community-wise we're talking like 75 million people so we're bad with numbers here we always like over that's okay it's better over than under right so Elman there's 88 cities in LA county and Elman is the eighth largest uh in terms of population really the eighth largest I didn't think it would be that damn so that's a census population so the census says I forget we're like 150,000 popul that's a little but but that you when they ran census we have a we have a large community of immigrants that avoided them they thought that it was going to lead to like ins or something so oh so there's
3:23 probably way more than the people that are register but geographically the city is the size of a poaches stamp very small it's 10 and half square miles wow so it's very densely populated so the advantage to that is your backup is like minutes away right as opposed to a bigger city where you have to wait 5 minutes for your life and everything it's you know how you guys have an airport yeah does that complicate policing at all a little bit we had a major uh Pursuit a couple weeks ago it was a a carjacking that occurred in isza which is like five cities over yeah um but we have these cameras I'm sure you guys will talk about that want to talk about that later but we have a camera system where if a PL is entered as a felony vehicle um we can it'll alert and'll let the officers know well this car came through it was just carjacked came through our city and an officer happened to be on top of it soow when you get to an airport there's Federal
4:14 Regulations so we can't fly our Airship over it um so we had to utilize drones wait you count your police helicopter count over it that's why everyone knows if you're in a highspeed Chase Drive towards the airport yeah it does complicate things I mean but with technology now almost every police car has a drone right every police car has yeah yeah I mean probably not LAPD and the sheriff's but at agencies our size like our Patrol Fleet we have about 50 drones and they're all you know a lot of them are capable of going in buildings we have one that's called the Loki it's about that big and we'll toss it through a window and it'll break the window and breach that for us and we can search so we'll do that before we used to send dogs in but now we'll send the loky this just like Minority Report got that little creepy crawler guy do you have to learn how to Pilot it or does it yeah there's so you have to get your FAA 107 which is the same Britain test that Pilots have to take and it's a big process because there's so many federal
5:04 restrictions there's cuz these things can go as high as helicopters and airplanes I thought cops are are dumb Yeah Yeah we actually we actually uh had they're not that dumb they're not how to fly all these things and ff77 really I mean a lot of in a lot of the country the minimum requirement is a GED to become a police officer but in a lot but at the same time they were being compensated for the same thing like if you leave the state cops make about a third of what I make and I make a good living um you know I'm I'm I'm elevated I'm in management now I'm I'm a lieutenant uh oh you're one of the red tape guys yeah but I haven't forgotten what it's like to be a cough right the red guys I haven't for thank you I haven't forgotten I got M tenant up my ass right now and the great thing about uh Department's our size is we can't get
5:55 away with that ████ right we can't you do this well you lose credibility if you do that right you have yeah I made my bones right I I did detectives I did gangs a lot of paperwork I mean 75% of law enforcement is paperwork from even from the bottom to you better learn how to write that's why I was telling talking to them about yo spelling and reading but you got the advantage of chat GT GPT now well now I mean if I pass it yeah I'm going to be using that but in the beginning I'm like y it's it's a real disadvantage that's that's why you see a lot of cops with degrees in California uh it's not a requirement at a lot of agencies but it is at a lot of a uh but the proficiency test puts you on par with like attorneys cuz that's who your opposition is when you go to court you your paper has to be bulletproof because you're going to have a a law deegree educated guy across from you tearing apart your report and if it's
6:45 not bulletproof you're going to look like a fool up in the stands and if you do the jury is going to think you're not credible so oh like the the criminals attorney yeah the defense attorney they'll they'll do everything they'll look at your social media um they'll look at your past performance so they go after you yeah cuz as much as they're going after the right that's annoying they want to discredit you that's um you know so that's why a lot of cops avoid social media and so the few of us that are public on social media evidence out for the taking huh yeah cuz some people can't handle an audience they might put something they might say one stupid thing and that defense attorney is going to do some research a good defense attorney at least is going to do some research and when you go up on the San Al oh okay how long you been a cop um you know what unit do you work what's your education cool explain this comment and it could just just tarnish the entire investigation or on the prosecution side and then you're not credible for the rest of your career
7:36 once they find out you're on this show I think a lot of guys are going be walk yeah you got as a cop you got to be able to assimilate with everybody right so I mean the one advantage of being in LA county is no two people are alike right um so you're going to talk to different groups and I've been a cop for 25 years and I've talked to a lot of different groups and and the cities you work in change like Alman is going through a gentrification right now there's a predominantly Hispanic community and well the average house price in Alman is like $750,000 wow the average house price in California is 96,000 I think as of last month my dad uh used to own a house in Alman and he bought it for 170 oh he came up he came up then yeah I but then the area by the border of Temple City and Elman that's not a bad neighborhood
8:26 and I can kind of see that area being like nice the people that live there are calling it like Elman Heights North Elman but you're right because it borders Arcadia Temple I can see the trickle down happening from there because a lot of the properties in Alani are horse properties um so you have huge properties where there's one 1200t house on an acre and like Sarah Jessica Parker lives there what's that like like that's what you're saying right I missed it like Jennifer Garner lives there like Sarah Jessica Parker like the chicks with horse faces the chicks horse faces at the 9 Minute Mark we like to get misogynistic okay got it oh man I I've been up since 3:30 I apologize but uh you know a good investor is going to buy that property level that yeah house and put like three
9:16 or four on it and and and flip their money three times so what what made you want to become a cop like just from day one um and how early how early did you know like my if you ask anybody from my family that said they'll say it since I was a kid cuz you know like every little kid I I I was an only child but had a lot of close cousins and we played cops and robbers and I wanted to be the cop I even fold pieces of paper and put FBI and stuff on it the influence came my my dad and both his brothers were in the Army and my grandfather was in the Army so uh I lived as you can imagine a pretty regimented disciplined household and I was actually born in an army base in Korea what up guys thank you for watching us for so long if you like what we do please support our patreon Joe tell them what we have to offer so every week you get two videos one never relased director's cut and another one too hot for YouTube patreon only every
10:09 freaking week you get that and you get access to our Discord where you can come chat with us and ask us questions that become episodes here cuz we're going to answer them and we're going to take it seriously and we want to give you the responses that you want so come stay connected with us join our patreon click the description below for full details they were in Korean army or American army American Army in Korea yeah my my grandfather was the only one that served in the Korean military he was in the Korean Navy but he grew up in in a part in a time where it was Japanese occupied for a period Then the Americans came and liberated them and so a period of time schooling was done in English when he turned 17 he joined the Korean Navy and the American Military established posts out there but they needed somebody that can speak the language so my grandfather went in while in the Korean Navy and did a lot of translation work and at the time they had a program called the katusa program which for Korean
11:00 augmentation to USA and that's how that was his Pathway to citizenship so he was like hey I'm leaving the Korean Navy I did my commitment join the the US Army through this program after a few years he'll leave and become American well he loved it so much he stayed and became a career CID investigator which is like their criminal investigation Detachment and CIS for the Army so military police yeah yeah but the investigation side so he it wasn't an MP like like a detective in the military yeah so he was part of the 19th MP Detachment military police detach but the investigative arm of it okay and then just the influence I mean if back then Korea was really poor but if you made an American Army salary you were doing really good and so when my dad and his brothers became of age it's like what you know what are you going to do you can either work at a farm or join the military cuz this was in Korea I see
11:50 so my dad was stationed in Korea he met my mom there I was born there and were you born in Camp mua no uh it doesn't exist anymore but the base that replaced it is Fort mlen oh which I don't even know if still exists or not um but it was it was near soul and is that where you translated at B kamic was they Ryan's trying to pull a fast one over here trying to link him with your job you're not Korean no I'm not how did you translate it's a tricky story I'll explain later but it's about you it's about you I already know somebody looked at youir somebody looked at you and said you probably speak Korean yeah a guy that looked like Steve looked at me and was like oh he be scre for sure you got to play our cards yeah work every Advantage did you also uh join the military or did you go straight no so I wanted to at 18 I was
12:40 going to enlist because I didn't have any I was a great student and um College wasn't on my cards but uh you know my parents made typical Korean parents you got to go to college um so I applied to calet La which was you know where everybody who yeah yeah literally Golden Eagle wooo so I I I met some friends and a lot of them um went the police route cuz in the early '90s we had um Mar uh Rodney King and the riots and stuff right so I graduated in '95 like being a police officer was the last thing on anybody's Minds police officers were Enemy Number One nobody wanted to be a cop like it is now too yeah there's a lot of parallels today uh with what was happening back then so I want you feel like it's worse now or worse then um well having having so I started in
13:30 '99 my career in 99 and um we couldn't do anything right that was a tougher time for Asians to join there was only like a handful of us and now there's so many um but in 2001 911 happened oh and um you couldn't do anything wrong I couldn't buy my own meals I mean if I was out at McDonald's just trying to do a pickup I couldn't buy my own meals we were like the most loved people in the world they're so patriotic huh like off to buy your lunch it's it's sad that a tragedy like that had to bring our nation together but it did and um we just need more tragedies but so I got a taste of that right yeah I I got a taste of that and so when 2013 2015 all the you know St Louis George Floyd all that stuff happened it was a flashback to when I first started um oh for you it started bad but it got good after 911 yeah so yeah it got really good I mean for we had a good 10 12 year run where
14:22 we couldn't do anything wrong yeah um but there's so much more now that's different now than it was back then back then we didn't have laws that handicapped us we could do police work um now like you know I'm sure you guys have heard all over social media and it's been around for a while but you know you can commit a petty theft they elevated the petty theft which used to be $500 or less to 950 950 so a lot of guys are going to the stores and buying stealing generators and there's nothing they can do about it we'll we'll do arrest them but they won't get prosecuted Cu uh we have a liberal da in LA county that won't gone we voted for him we think that's tight yeah well you and I you're going to talk later I'll talk right now I'll talk right now wait so you said you you can arrest them but you can't prosecute well that's not their job yeah yeah we'll still do our job I mean it's our it's a bad guy's
15:12 job to to do their thing it's our job to catch them right but it's really demoralizing for an officer to have to go through all that work I mean especially if it's the same guy you keep catching yeah luckily there's Provisions in place where um if if they're a repeat guy and then I mean it's the burden's long right like talking like a dozen arrests then they might do something about it dozen times yeah but it's really disheartening when that's how you end up with those rap sheets that are like Pages yeah exactly well you know those most of those incidences like on um like those Asian like activist Pages where a lot of uh like old people were getting murdered or beat up or whatever they always show the rap sheet of the person that should have been like in prison or like in an institution to get help but they're off on the street and then they're randomly punching stabbing people yeah I we lost two officers last
16:02 year um at Alman on the same call and the bad guy shouldn't have been out there he he had he had two strikes and um he was out because gas gon's liberal policies and we responded to a demestic and um he ambushed him and and shot two of my really good friends on duty God damn so it at a on a personal level I think you you're comparing how bad it was in the early late 90s and how bad it is now it's more impactful now because I've had 25 years of experience to developed relationships not just with my co-workers but with the victims and I can relate so much to the victims cuz you know I'm a victim Survivor too um you know my dad committed suicide and my mom was murdered all within 3 years what the ████ and there's no justice behind it cuz the guy that killed my mom killed himself right so I can empathize with
16:52 the public when they're victimized and so when you catch these bad guys I can't help but relate what happened to me personally to what happened to them and I want to see the justice system do its thing but it's hard when they ask me what's going to happen to them and I I have to look at them in the eye and tell them they're probably going to get released damn person and but that what people don't understand the law they they go why aren't the police doing their job it's not the police the police are arresting they're doing their job it's the prosecutor not doing their job and wanting to make them go to jail but then it's the people that voted that prosecutor isn't it yeah and there's a lot of well they all got people got bamboozled I think by those people because it's GE Soros da is getting logged in right it's his money that's provide so there beating up everybody's eyes with signs and campaign signs and slogans and ████ like that so they vote for these people because the money is
17:42 what wins ultimately in these local races so that's how it happens or they'll campaign on other issues and most of their fundings coming from George Soros right or whatever the agenda is right and it's happening all cities like it's not just one city yeah so just to be clear on on what happens because I feel like a lot of people when they know about the 950 thing and criminals steal and they get let out what actually does happen do they get a citation what's the thing that happens yeah so once we arrest them we used to lock them up until their arraignment then they'll go to court after within 20 48 hours and the judge will decide based on on our case if he if we have enough of a burden of evidence to move forward to a trial and they're in jail during that entire time so they're off the streets during that whole time yeah but now um they don't even get arraigned if
18:33 it's a if it's a petty theft we give them a citation what is that a tiet a ticket instead in Li of jail time it's a promise to appear is the oh so the ticket's just like hey like how we get a ticket for like speeding yeah you get a court date eventually and uh so to put into like a like a practical example like let's say someone breaks into my house socks my mom in the face steals her purse before that guy is put behind bars until the court date yeah now he'll just get a citation minus the Breakin and minus the battery because those are felonies right like d but let's just say your house was empty someone breaks not breaks in cuz that's a burglar still but someone steals let's just on package yeah steals that so we write we do our job we write the ticket but what happens after that what typically supposed to happen is a DA is supposed to get that ticket and decide if they're going to
19:23 file well there is a directive from Soros that says we will not file on those so driving without a driver's license they won't file if you have no insurance and and somebody hits your car and they have no money no insurance they won't file what in LA county I wonder why I just don't understand why this agenda is happening I think it's well look everybody we should look into how those people were raised and burden Society with how they were how they grew up and what they went through um and nobody ever talks about that it's so very important you're such an do you have an side look on why this agenda is even occurring or do do you know something that like People Like Us wouldn't yeah cuz I think to the outside it seems so counterproductive and backwards working in the system is there're like if you could are you able
20:14 to play Devils Advocate in any way of why they cuz we've even had we've even had other cops here and I straight up asked them like why is that happening and he was like I don't know I had to beat it out of them but I did I mean the the answer we're supposed to give is I don't know right there's a lot of politics that's and without getting tooo political and there's special agendas uh you mentioned George Soros and he has his agenda he wants to he's not an American citizen but he has an interest in America he finds value with the deterioration of America and somehow he he benefits from that that's how he made his money he made his money devaluing other Argentina yeah all these currencies and all these other places and guiding them down and Argentina is a great example um you know El Salvador too um a lot of these countries are realizing what's happening thanks to the information age right you can people are starting to do research and when they find out the funding sources behind the lot they're like hey
21:05 that's not an our interest it benefits one person or one group so they're revolting and if you look at El Salvador MS13 was a big problem all over the world they got a they voted in a new president who was really conservative and said hey if you if you're associated in any way with MS13 you're going to be thrown in jail and he locked them up and and put them nuts to butts and really tight quarters and stuff and um El salv is a beautiful country now right there's no crime because he know when there's punishment on Horizon you're going to think twice about committing a crime oh yeah right that's what stuff so I think we're kind of going through that now there's a a candidate running against um uh gascan his name is Nathan Hawkman he's a DA Deputy da um who had to live with all these you know directives that came from the top and he he he used to be the Attorney General in California and he was born independently wealthy so
21:55 he's the first viable candidate that can meet money for money and he's raised the most money out of any candidate independent of his personal contribution get him what's the cast's name again Nathan Hawkman that's who we need to vote for Nathan hawman Nathan Hawkman and the thing is this regardless if you're liberal Conservative Republican Democrat it's not about that at the end of the day victims politics don't discriminate against victims yeah I just don't want crime I don't give a ████ left or right I just I just want to feel safe yeah exactly yeah that's why I'm a big Advocate and I'm sure you agree with me uh I'm a big Advocate about uh protecting yourself you can't rely on on the cops on a cop but you can't rely on us we can't be everywhere all at once and the best way to not be a victim is to equip yourself with uh you know more awareness training more self-defense training and you know Jiu-Jitsu itself gives you so much confidence um that you literally seen Housewives start from day
22:46 one a year or two later walk out with their heads up high you know they're not afraid they're not going to say hey walk me in my car anymore they know they can handle it uh at least Stave off and attack for as long as it takes to get back up there um so it's a great equalizer it emboldens people and um you know even when I'm off duty I'm not I'm not always going to expect the cops to be every because they're not we're severely outnumbered we have 360 million people in the United States and there's only like 800,000 cops to police the entire country we're and there's 75 million people in Alman getting there after this after this people are going to this going to blow move to Elman crazy that's cool you said that I never thought of Jiu-Jitsu though it's pretty cool yeah I told you dude he doesn't believe in it funny thing well it's not funny but every single officer that I spoke to that actually work like the street and everything they say the same exact thing
23:37 is I wish more people took matters into their own hands for self-defense for being armed and every person that I hear about like oh we shouldn't have guns aren't officers or people that work in violent situations they're always people that are like either politicians or people that I don't know why they have never shot a gun too yeah and they're the ones that are say but every I'm like if the police themselves are saying that I wish more citizens would have guns and do this I'm like why don't you listen to the people that are actually taking care the experts Joe they are the experts right no let let let them go down it's all good they going to learn after it takes it takes a minute for they learn it's mindblowing thank you for sharing yeah that's cool man
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