0:00 I know one quote in there. What? >> Jake Sully. Oh, [laughter] yeah. Okay. I can remember that one. Yeah. Looks like we got ourselves an Avatar. >> [laughter] >> Did you make that up already? >> Yeah. I've been catching Avatar all my life. Welcome back to another episode of The Careful Boys, where it is Nobody calls it this Avatar season. I say that because the third installment of the Avatar franchise, Avatar Fire and Ash, is coming out or came out. I think it's out already. It It did? >> It's out already? This weekend or something like that. Uh and I bring this up because the first Avatar in 2009 is the highest-grossing film of all time with over 2.9 billion dollars Wow. in revenue. The Way of Water, which came out
0:50 uh 2022, is the third-highest-grossing film of all time, 2.3 billion. >> That's the Mexican one, right? The water Mexicans? Mhm. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's the water Mexicans. So, it's it's very I mean, it's easy to anticipate that this next installment is still going to make a lot of money for whatever reason, but it's just um I don't know anybody who's in love with the Avatar movies or the franchise or Yeah. I love it. >> They Okay, let's talk about it. But, they're the highest highest-grossing >> It's like, what? It's the highest-grossing franchise of all time by far. >> Is it still doing good? The Just being number one and number three Oh, yeah. >> in general >> Have you heard of that phenomenon about how um It's a It's basically like it sounds like a conspiracy, but it's really just like a interesting phenomenon how it's so insanely popular, and by all metrics, these movies have
1:41 proven that everybody's seen them, but nobody talks about them. I saw somebody say, it was such a good point. They said, "I've never seen something more successful have less cultural significance." It is, yeah. There's no There's nothing culturally to talk about. Like, it doesn't make people argue or Have you ever sent a meme to somebody of an Avatar blue person doing something? Like, never, right? But like, I see Wolf of Wall Street memes everywhere, Scorsese stuff in general. Yeah. Every Yeah, it's it's a strange thing that it just doesn't tie into like how people feel. Like, no That's true. And there's no geeks like really geeking out like Star Wars and then like forever being an Avatar and Well, that's the thing. Some Somebody put that well, too. It's like, cuz on Halloween or something like that, you're going to want to dress up as a Jedi. You're not going to want to be a naked blue-painted person. No. >> Oh, it's hard to costume >> Difficult, yeah. It is difficult. Maybe
2:31 hot ████ do it. Yeah, they can. Yeah. Yeah. And it would be nice. And And we would I would encourage But, you just don't run into like references. You don't Nobody's quoting something from there, and everyone knows that it's from Avatar or anything. Nothing. Yeah. It just has no like place in pop culture, oddly. It's like water. Everyone's had it, but no one's really talked I guess maybe water has more conversation than this. Actually, no, I'll not take that back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Isn't that weird? It's That's what I'm saying. But, and to be the top-highest-grossing for for even its sequel to beat out like Avengers: Endgame Do you think they fudged the numbers? That's what I'm saying. You see memes about Endgame all day long and like GIFs and clips. >> Or like remember the year Anchorman came out? Everyone was saying Anchorman lines, and you couldn't get away Or Borat. >> Napoleon Dynamite. >> Wait for me. Yeah. This didn't have any of that wave, but everyone's apparently seen it. Yeah. Have you guys seen it?
3:23 Yeah. I've only seen the first one. >> I I've seen both. I'll give it props on like, you know, 3D animation action sequences, great cinematography. I'll give it for sure. And even being right in that like line of digestible for anybody, any age, any ethnic group, whatever. I I So, I understand the metrics of it working. It's just Yeah, that's the I I think I loved it. I thought it was amazing and beautiful. There's nothing wrong with it, but it didn't change how I felt about anything. That's true, and I didn't want to watch it again. I was like, "That's a good movie." And then you move on. But then after I saw Fight Club, like I changed a little bit as a person. Yeah. And I was like, "What happened to me, man?" >> [laughter] >> I don't know. Maybe Or maybe it's the age that we're seeing it. I don't know, but there's like when kids obsessed, too, behind a brand or whatever, they go crazy. I don't know any Avatar kids.
4:14 No. I do remember when the first Avatar came out, people were like there were articles about people getting like all depressed because they weren't living in Pandora. They were getting clinically depressed that it wasn't real. I remember something like that. Yeah. Uh They made Avatar Land, right? There's an Avatar theme park. You've been trying to say something for like an hour. Go ahead. >> no. I I just I I I love it so much. I bought like an Avatar popcorn bowl, and it lights up and everything. No, but the I The reason why >> That's how they make their billions. I I um But, I usually never get stuff like that. But, I think I like it it is because the world they built, I think it it's cuz I fantasize a lot about um What What is that uh not Ohio? Okay. Ohio? No, not Ohio. Like, the place with the mountains. Anyways, like Yellowstone. What is What is it? What Yeah, sure. Yellowstone is a place. It Yeah, a little bit different,
5:06 but um I It's just like uh you fantasize about nature and like and mushrooms and stuff. That's really cool. And then uh And then they just seem like connected and together, you know? And then you get to like connect with horse. That's cool. And then you get to like connect with Oh, you The hair connecting. Yeah. And you get to ride dragons. I love dragons. You know? You get to fly to >> Wow, I really never thought about all this before. Well, yeah. But, didn't you But, didn't you watch the movie and go, "Man, this is Dancing with Horses"? What's Dancing with Horses? You never seen that Native American movie Dancing Dancing with Horses, dude? >> Yeah. Yeah, you know what? I think the sentiment is is like if it very adjacent, but you get to fly and ████ And then you get to like fight with your uh you know, like your your friends and family and Yeah, you can connect connect ████ with your hair.
5:56 I think I love it now. Your hair is a G key for the world. Yeah. It's a ████ G key for the cloud. It's like you could connect to any animal. You just ████ hair sex with it. >> That's what I'm saying. Do you rewatch Avatar movies? I watched When it came out, I I think I watched the first one like two twice or three times. And the second one, I also watched it twice or three times. Damn, that's actually a lot. >> never watch Is there any quotes or in there for you? >> No, like I never thought about it, but yeah, there's no quotable things. But, I think What did you think about the dolphin Mexican? I know one quote in there. What? >> Jake Sully. Oh, yeah. [laughter] Okay. I can remember that one. Yeah. Looks like we got ourselves an Avatar. >> [laughter] >> Did you make that up already? Yeah. I've been catching Avatar all my life. >> [laughter] >> HEY, YOU THINK the third one's going to introduce another race like Chinese or
6:46 something? The Fire and Ash one, yeah. It has a It has a different like indigenous like clan that has somehow teams up with the old-school military GI Joe guy who becomes an Avatar. The guy with Bart's-shaped head? I don't like them cuz they're blue. That's my favorite part. Is that really in the movie? Oh, yeah. That? I don't The general guy. He's like He says, "I don't like them cuz they're I like them cuz they're blue. I want to like them when they're dead." >> Oh, he's blue now, though. He's blue now? Yeah, yeah, he's blue now. >> He's blue, too? Spoilers, thanks. was able to get an you know, no spoiler here. In Way of the Water, he had to get his own Avatar body in order to like come back kill him. >> I thought it was Waterway. I thought it was called Waterway. And it's kind of cool that they uh What is it Waterway? Second one. Number two. Avatar 2. Oh, yeah, the Waterway, right? The Waterworks. Waterway.
7:36 >> [laughter] >> I think I'm right about that. The Waterway? Yeah, Waterway. Yeah, but it goes, "Dry land is not a myth." Yeah. [laughter] That one? Is that from Waterway? Yeah. And then he pees in the thing and it filters into a river. >> That's the best. When it opens up with that, I was like, "I'm going to try to drink my pee now." That's the best. What were you going to say, Jason? Go ahead. I don't know. >> [laughter] >> Safe space. >> That's cool that we That's cool that we have actual person to ask. Yeah. Hey, but then wasn't that Waterworld like one of the worst-rated movies in Waterworld? Yeah, Waterworld. But then like But then when you're a kid Kevin Costner's But then when you're a kid, you watch it and you're like, "That's ████ sick." So, I was like, "That's where they went wrong. It was meant for me." Was it poorly rated? It was bad. >> Very. It Well, it bombed hard. It bombed? And yet yet they still were like, "Yeah, we're going to make an
8:26 action live show at Universal Studios." >> reason, that show is infinitely more successful than the movie. It's still going. It's still going. It's still going. It's so I love that show. Crazy. I still like the movie, but I think it was meant for my 10-year-old brain. Yeah. Good thing it's still 10 years old. >> [laughter] >> I can still enjoy it. But yeah, it lost a ton of money. It was like historically uh Well, cuz they filmed like in the water. They had to build all these sets for it, and it was a crazy shoot, yeah. It's a make a bunch of water for that movie. I still don't know why it did so bad. Cuz I still think it's a great movie. I enjoy it. I for sure enjoy it. >> It's a ████ CLASSIC. IT'S WAY BETTER THAN AVATAR. AH, WELL. >> That's That's probably the thing. You know how like some movies are are like inarguably really good movies, but they just couldn't get people to watch it? Which one? Like Bloodsport. Like
9:17 Bloodsport. Dude, Big Lebowski. Nobody watched that movie when it came out until until home home >> Or Shawshank Redemption. You know Shawshank Redemption didn't do well. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. One of the best movies of all time. But, it But, it just couldn't get people to It's cuz they had a bad thumbnail and a title. Yeah, bad thumbnail and [laughter] title. Probably Anthony likes that movie so much cuz he keeps rewatching the shower scene. >> [laughter] >> The shower scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about. What What What was You mean when he's about to get Get out of here. >> Like that scene, huh? That's your favorite movie. >> That's the scene you like? >> Favorite movie, huh? You're so dumb. What was your favorite thing about the The shower. About the shower scene? Yeah. Shower Shawshank Redemption is well written. That's all. You know, anything that's got like a good twist at the end Yeah. uh is like a good twist. And and a good
10:07 enough happy ending when, you know, he finally Morgan Freeman finally also gets out, too. He's talking about ████ What's the word? uh rehabilitation. Yeah. And and then he goes for his third time, and then he finally gets out, and then he meets him up. Like and you think he's going to off himself. Right. You know what I'm talking about, but he meets him up. Like that's >> It's tight. Damn, that's a good movie. Now I'm thinking about it again. Great. It's a good very good movie. >> Is that the one where Michael B. Jordan becomes like a vampire slayer? Yeah, that's the one. Same one. It's the one Michael B. Jordan turns into a fire and he flies around. >> [laughter] >> That's Fruitvale Station. It's a Wes Anderson movie. Yeah, two. Fruitvale Station two. >> [laughter] >> Okay, well, also also I got to give it up to James Cameron because his other big box office hit Titanic is one of the highest grossing films of all time. So, the fact that he's like >> He can't be this. He's the goat of like
10:57 earning. Dude, wait till Titanic two. Titanic was so culturally significant. It was everywhere when it came out and for years after. >> the promo of them building the boat was like 100%. >> made it so easy for people to want to see it. That's a Titanic is a really good movie. >> It's very romantic. >> You needed two ████ videos. That was crazy. >> Yeah, my mom would try to hide the VHS or whatever so I couldn't see the titties. >> Yeah, the titties. I was looking for them. You had to make sure that you ████ manually rewinded that ████ so it didn't stay in that same spot after you finished. Yeah, James Cameron >> You know, I had the neon blue one. That's so funny. Terminator What what sucks about him going into Avatar land for like 30 years is that we never got to see him do like a sick ass Terminator movie like after T2. I would have loved that. Even though there's like five Terminator movies.
11:47 >> Well, there's too many now and nobody cares anymore, but I think that there was a hot a sweet spot where we all would have loved to see James Cameron come back and do one, but he's in Avatar land. >> I mean, he's a James Cameron's officially a billionaire now. Damn, I would have thought he was Yeah, I would have thought he was already. Even for Avatar one that grossed 2.9 billion, he only got not only, but he got 350 million for it. And that story about him trying to give that role to Matt Damon instead and offer him 10% of of sales is crazy. >> Wait, that's a real story? >> That's a real story. >> Wait, Matt Damon said no? Yeah, he said >> He said go ████ yourself. Damn. Then he called and then he called him a ████ >> [laughter] >> He called him a ████ >> As he's walking away. Under his breath. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [laughter] ████ out of here, ████
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