0:00 I'm like, "You arrest me? Cool." Yes, we're doing like breaking city laws, right? But let me back into school cuz I didn't do none of this ████ on campus. >> Had a weapon on him, got arrested during school hours cuz he's ditching school. Like, get him out of here. If Tao was at that school and you heard about this other kid that was causing these problems, what would you do >> on his school? >> I'm pulling it out of school. We're going to another school. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys and this is some breaking news out here y'all. Um we have just landed on the verdict and this is a very very big case of Carmelo Anthony. If you guys don't remember uh the backstory, this was back in April of 2025. This was a um districtwide track meet in Frisco, Texas. this uh kid Carmelo Anthony from
0:52 Centennial High sat under a >> Oh, not the basketball player. >> Oh, I kept thinking about the basketball player the whole ████ time. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the This is when he was on the Knicks. Uh and he was sitting under a tent at a rival Memorial High. >> No, Denver Nuggets is the real Carmela Anthony. >> Yeah, but this is Nick era. That's the whole point. Uh >> this is the Centennial High School era. >> Confronted by memorial track team members and he was told to leave. Uh the exchange escalated. He and then he fatally stabbed uh 17-year-old Austin Metaf who died uh in his twin brother Hunter's arms. Anthony admitted the stabbing from the start. The entire trial was about whether it was self-defense. So you guys remember that story, right? >> Not at all. But he stabbed the ████ >> He stabbed him in the heart. He stabbed him in the heart. >> Yeah, I was in here. I don't know. Was I here? >> We did that. Yes, I think so. Probably. >> I don't It was all over the news, too. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely a big story.
1:42 >> I don't remember it at all. That's crazy. So, the verdict uh the jury convicted him of murder in under 3 hours, then rejected the sudden passion argument that could have reduced his sentence. He got 35 years out of a possible 5 to 99 and is uh parole eligible after half. He was 17 then. Texas law allowed him to be charged uh charged as an adult and he's 19 now. >> Damn, >> smart move on them. Now, obviously, uh, this has just kind of been a huge talking point, if you will, with the nation because it's not just like a typical crime story in a sense. Uh, it went viral largely because social media amplified the racial. >> Always always racial. >> Anony's black kid, Metaf is a white kid. Um, Anony's supporters were particularly upset that the jury had no black jurors. Uh, crowds clash outside the courthouse before the verdict. Um, this was also one of those things where it got a
2:32 little bit interesting because uh, give and go was a fund uh, for Anthony that was started has raised over $630,000 >> advocate. >> Sure. >> How what are they complaining about? No black jurors. What if all the black people wanted to skip jury duty that day cuz they're not responsible to be known for going to jury duty? >> Some That's what Subin said. >> Was that what Suben, can you corroborate what you said? >> Do you know why people love doing their their civil service? So, they're going to go do jury dirty, right? A lot of minorities and other the the other people like myself included is going to skip every jury duty. >> I skip jury duty. >> So, sometimes >> you're Well, you're trash. >> You're trash. You don't count >> cuz you know people they they just examine the destination. They don't go what's the journey of why there's only 30 white people, >> right? It's like they don't have the
3:23 video clip of all the black families ripping their jury. So, would they rather have would they rather have 30 white liberals or 30 black Republicans? That is tough. That I mean that that is a tough question. There were >> they don't they they can't wait to make an example out of someone. >> They can't wait to lay like a rug and like let people walk all over them. >> Yep. >> I do believe that there are even like four black uh other fellow four black fellow like high school kids that testified against him as well uh in witness testimony and stuff too. So, I mean, it's like I I don't think it's obviously obviously that's the whole point, though, like that the fact that there's a racial conversation. >> Like, that's a huge >> The jury was also had Mexicans and Asians on it, right? >> I read that >> somewhere. >> Oh, so just no black people. >> Yeah. >> Oh, cuz if it was 30 clansmen, I'd be afraid.
4:13 >> Yeah. I'd be like, >> then I'd be like, uh, objection, your honor, or whatever you say. Can we redo this whole thing? This is kind of crazy. >> Too many pillowcases. Yes. >> I just hate how it became a race thing. You know what I'm saying? Now everything's about the race thing. >> Well, that's America. Like everything is a race thing, right? >> Kid gets stabbed at school and it's a race thing. >> Yeah. It's like, what the hell? We're not talking about the stabbing anymore. >> To answer you, the jury was appeared to be a mix of white, Middle Eastern, and Southeast Asian people, but none who identified as black. But yeah, and then and then again the other huge thing is that we also live in a time where uh people are crowdfunding and there's like a a large social sympathy regardless of social justice >> some version. Yeah. So like you know being able to raise over $630,000 with a goal of nearly $1.4 million. Um with don donations still pouring through after conviction. It's kind of like it just
5:03 sets like a different kind of tone and understanding of like how people see justice and crime and right and wrong. Um, >> but didn't he buy houses and cars with that money? >> Dude, it's it's worse. >> Dude, he got that kind of money. >> They rented a million dollar house. >> A >> They got that kind of money from the crowdfund. >> I just remember hearing it. >> Get this. Get this. He also uh had a public defender after they raised all that bread. >> He didn't actually pay for a lawyer. >> That's what I'm saying, dude. I think the kid got ████ by his parent. >> He could have he could have got a fire ass lawyer from California. A Persian Jewish lawyer. Man, they would have guaranteed you will win. You know what I mean? >> Persian. Armenian Jewish. She would have won. >> Not Armenia. I don't know about >> n Armenian. I don't know about them being lawyers. They're not that good. >> Yeah. Not >> cuz Kim Kardashian tried but she
5:54 couldn't pass. >> Maybe if he wants them to smell really good. >> Huh? >> If you want them to smell really good, you get Armenian. >> Uh, you probably get headaches. But uh >> Oh, cuz the cologne cologne company. Yes, sir. >> Yeah. Speaking of allies, cuz you know there's like there's work you put in in the office, right? But there's also work you put in on the streets. >> Okay. >> If more of us had the n-word card, I think they would have voted against in the juror. >> Expand on that. >> Well, you know, cuz if we were honorary black people, >> okay, >> we feel allied. >> We would be allied and it' be like, yo, this guy's innocent. Give him a less sentence. But let's say Jeremiah or whatever that was in the jury, he was like, "You know what? Antoine didn't give me my n-word card. You know how I'm going to vote now. I'mma take it out on
6:44 ████ Carmemelllo Anthony. >> We're not in the club. Your neighbor keeps having house parties across the street. You're not invited." >> I'm just explaining how society works. The the dynamics of the ecosystem. >> I'm not talking about right or wrong. I'm just saying, you know, when you study like a animal area, >> can you try it like in the defense of the other person with that same analogy though? Like what else could they potentially like provide or have provided before? >> Could have Carmela Anthony and his team have done. >> Yeah. Or like things that maybe like not maybe I can't give you the nword card, but like haven't I already been doing this with my culture and heritage? But what about that argument? Is that there or not? Like invite people to more barbecues like that. >> Yeah, probably. Huh. Or like here's my music and fashion or something. No. >> Or just let people in more. Like if you guys are all talking Asian ████ all the
7:35 time and I'm not allowed to talk about anything around you because you're like nah, you're not Asian. You can't even talk about this. Then like I'm like, well, ████ these guys. That's what Bart's saying. >> Well, you Well, you shouldn't say things though. Just if you could just say that. >> Okay, I won't. Okay, my bad. >> Check your privilege, man. >> Yeah, check your privilege. What sucks about pulling the race card though is it becomes like a nener type ████ you know? It's like So it's like if Asians are like, "Yo, if you guys are a little bit more loud when it came to all the a all the Asian grandpas getting ████ killed and ████ maybe they'll come in, right?" But then but you can keep tracing back to ████ Chinese people building railroads, back to slavery. is never ending versus >> Asians are getting better at complaining these days >> versus examining like what's you know what I mean? It's like
8:25 >> the whole racial thing ends up just being like who did more favors for who? >> Well, that's 100% I mean substitute race with just like what's good for your class. Like same ████ you know, back then it doesn't have to be race. If if this is going to benefit me in the long run or if this sets a precedent, right? if this murder, if this blah blah blah situation turns this way, then my daughter growing up is going to live in more dangerous world. So, I'm going to be biased. That's the whole point of being a juror, right? Like, you're supposed to bring um your indirect personal bias and like let that in in a melting pot of decision-m be okay for society versus the outwardly direct bias like I am racist. I cannot vote on this kid. >> You know what? Where is there is a scientific proof of like how someone gets a lesser sentence if they're beautiful. Yeah. >> Guys or girls, that's there's actually like a man privilege card.
9:15 >> Yeah. >> That fool should just be walking free all day, right? >> Yeah. If you if you look good, you get a lesser sentence. So, that is actually way more effective than >> Isn't that the Ted Bundy thing? Ted Bundy. >> They're like, for sure, >> I could save him. >> Yeah. >> Sydney Sweenies could shoot somebody in public and I would say let her go, man. >> Just not even just >> let them go. >> But everything's based on bias. >> Let them go. Let them go. >> Let them both go. >> What? What? During the heat of the moment, this guy just had a knife. >> So, that's again uh it's hard to say details because like so he started uh afterwards. Uh again, I don't want you feel free to look up the details. What happened was there was a moment where he got there the the guy that's not his tent. Um the guys came back though, hey, you know, like you got to move. And then for him to be him be like, hey dude,
10:06 like you know, like make me and like see what happens. So there's there was kind of a moment I don't say the exact right words but there's kind of a moment for in like kind of inviting it for for some sort of conflict to happen and then if you had a knife like a deadly weapon on like a school property track me where it's already not supposed to be and then you're going like you have the knife and then you're like hey you know like make me what are you going to do and you're inviting that kind of complication. It's very difficult to not like show like a no matter what version of self-defense you might say, if one person has no deadly weapon and you have a weapon in a place that it's not supposed to be, that conflict is very one. >> You know what's crazy? I got expelled from school uh because I had a knife not on campus >> at home. >> Yes, >> we all have kitchen knives at home. So
10:57 uh um when I was going to stri high school I ditched school right for like for like a week during one of the times when we ditched school. We were in an abandoned house that it was like a wellknown in the area. We're kicking it when the cops came and arrested all of us because the neighbors were saying like oh there's like so much commotion or whatever. We're just shooting fireworks at each other. Maybe that were gunshots. But the cops came and when they arrested all of us I had a knife on me. So they're like okay this is happening during school hours. we're going to apply like school rules. >> So what they how they applied it was the the district they end up going well since it's school hours if you weren't at this house you would have been you would have had the same outfit the same knife on campus because of that we're expelling you. >> They just wanted a reason dude. They hated your ass. >> They could but but that's the same reasoning, right? The same reasoning is
11:47 like why do you have why do you have a knife on campus? Like what are your intentions? You were so shocked by your story about how they expelled you for not like you started the story. You're like, I did school for like a week, right? >> It's so unfair. >> Yeah. Yeah. All right. >> And then you were like squatting before squatting was a thing. >> I didn't know you can cross rules like that. >> And then and then you're talking about like dude and then when they arrested me like you're a kid >> in a ████ house that you don't own arrested and you had a weapon on you. You're like I don't ████ understand why the school doesn't >> You know what I thought how the rules were going to play out? I'm like you arrest me. Cool. Yes. We're doing like breaking city laws, right? Take me to jail. Fine, whatever. But let me back into school cuz I didn't do none of this ████ on campus. >> The the story begins with you made it sound like you got arrested because your dad has a gun at home. >> Yep. >> And you actually like >> clearly if I get if I commit murder off
12:40 campus, then the school has no reason >> because I didn't kill anybody in school. >> No, but it's perception. They don't want someone like you in school. This guy got arrested. Let's find a reason to ████ get him. Keep him off school. >> Had a weapon on him. Got arrested during school hours cuz he's ditching school. Like get him out of here. >> What's the craziest thing about this story? >> You would say that now? >> Are you calling me a Carmela Anthony? >> If Tao was at that school and you heard about this other kid that was causing these problems, what would you do >> on this school? I'm pulling it out of school. We're going to another school. >> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Now, the craziest thing about this story to me is that Austin Metcap was there for like eight minutes. >> You know what I mean? So like so like bleeding out. >> No, no, no, no, no. This So like he got to school, he gets to he gets to the tent, right? And he was in the tent for 8 minutes and then he's dead. So like he like it was not long. Like he gets to
13:31 school and he's dead 8 minutes later. >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. So it happened quick. And that's that's I think I think I didn't know that when I was hearing the story for a while. I was like maybe they were bullying this kid really hard and he tried to defend himself and they got in like some kind of scuffle, but it was really fast. So, like for him to escalate to like I'm taking my knife out and I'm going to ████ sink it into your heart. Like that's >> like if you're Austin's parents and you're like, "Damn, my kid was on campus for 8 minutes and he died." That's ████ crazy. I like, "Dude, give that guy a hundred years." >> Dude, there's a moment where the dad in in the courtroom was basically like saying how grief isn't in like sadness and stuff. Grief uh sometimes is in is in anger. And so he was going off in the courtroom and just ████ trying to like demand justice. >> I would too. You know when people ████ jump the ████ the little thing and want to beat the guy's ass or
14:21 whatever. I get it. I'm like, dude, if that happened to like your kid, >> some of those videos are tight. Actually, >> that's crazy. >> Yeah. And they beat up the ████ >> The context is so sad. >> But not the judge though. When people beat up the judge, I'm like, "Dude, that's ████ up." That ████ happened here. You saw that guy jump over and ████ try to punch the judge. >> He flew. launched himself, dude, like a stunt man. >> I saw that one. >> This sucks, man. >> Yeah, it's a sad story. >> I actually think if you're under 25, >> you should get free with everything. >> You're on you're on that prefrontal cortex non-developed ████ huh? Get the ████ out of here. 25 is hella late, dog. >> Mine is if you kill someone else's son, you're their son now. >> Jesus. >> So, everyone loses? >> No. >> Horrible. >> Yeah. Now it's up to you. So, as a parent, you're just like, "Now I have to have I have to take care of my son's
15:11 murder." >> It's like ████ Last Samurai, right? You kill the ████ Now you're her husband and you take care of their whole family. >> So now So now So now you kill somebody, you get to have his family. >> Yeah. You got to Yeah. So >> So he was assigned. That's not That's not Japanese rules. >> That means if you if you see a hot ass wife of somebody else, you're just like >> I mean there's loopholes and everything. You >> I got to ████ fulfill my duty. >> But that's what I think. Being a son doesn't help though, cuz sons usually get taken care of by their parents like for a while. >> But then if you're in that family, they're probably going to beat your ass every day. >> Oh yeah, I would. >> I can't argue with this logic.
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