0:00 All [Music] right. No bull. What would you do if you had a son? How would you raise that kid to prevent him from becoming a school shooter? Oh, specifically that. And make him have a lot of friends. So, that's a component. Most most school shooters are like lone loners. Yeah, loners. They're weird. Okay. Honestly, I feel like the the the through line I see with school shooters is that they're just absent parents. That's like the number one. I just think a lot of the times these kids are left to their own devices. Other than that recent one where the the mom with all the tatted face, how she like helped her kid do the school shooting. Outlier. Yeah. But it but once again, that's I think the same thing but just on the opposite end of the bad parenting. Yeah, bro. How would you how would you help a kid
0:50 have more friends? How do you do that? Just go outside. Get outside. Get off the video games. Get your outside. Don't come back till dinner time. But if you guys remember the OG the OG school shooters when we were in high school was the ████ trench coke mafia. They were friends. They found like-minded people that wanted to blast together. But then they were like I guess as long as they do it with their friends labeled were also gamers though and they blamed the games. Remember? Oh my god. So stupid. But then remember how like it was it was relative in like a school of like 3,000 people. Their group was bullied. Their whole group. Yeah, that's what that's how it was. That they were like the weirdos. So like So they weren't the cool kids? No, not at all. They were like actually like weird in the same way that a lone guy would be the weird guy in his class. They were like the click out of like all these people that were
1:40 That's what I'm saying. The friendship stuff doesn't help because they might find like-minded losers and go shoot up together. Maybe it doesn't help even more now that like everything will adjust to your algo of how you are. So then you're just going to meet a thousand other shooters. Somebody remember it's like meeting somebody who spins you up, right? Like you're like, "Oh yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree." You just bouncing off each other like that. Yeah. And you guys are like, "We like the Matrix." It's just like the Matrix all the time apparently. Like you got the guns, I got the ammo. He has vest. Yeah. That maybe you know what the uh common denominator is that nobody talks about? They're all on anti-depressants. That's a big Yeah, that's a fact. Is that a big ecstasy earlier? Hey, have you Okay, I'll ask you guys this. Do you guys know anybody who's been on anti-depressants since they were a kid and they're adults now? I don't know. What happens when Well, I was going to ask like if you guys see any through lines like I know a
2:31 couple and I feel like they're a little I want to say unstable. It's not fair to say. It's a blanket statement, but sometimes they're just they're not well adjusted to I think Yeah, I only know like aderall users. Yeah, Ider is not anti-depressant though. They're usually just off the ████ wall and I'm like stable though. Like they're a little like they're kind of that sounds to me perception of life is like a little like oh man that's actually really interesting to think that. I'm always asking more questions like why do you think that? Why do you think that? Why do you think that? Um just because it is so like out of left field. It's like a point of view I've never really heard before but it's really interesting. I think the only person that like we really know that had to take anti-depressants a lot ended up like not so good so good since they were kids and continued to do it for like 10 plus years. I didn't know anybody since they were
3:22 kids. I've never known any kids taking it. So when I was in middle school, there was a kid I think there's a kid who um it was just after all the school shootings and stuff like that and he kept on saying he wanted to shoot the school up like with get an oozy and shoot the school up and I was like a ████ am I going to be that guy on the news who's like we had no idea what I mean? So I was I knew the whole time. So I went to I went to the principal's office. I I went I narked on a rat ████ Totally on it, man. That's sick, dude. You saved your ████ school though. Maybe. But yeah, Naruto, I had to I was like I don't know whatever grade when you're in like sixth grade, seventh grade. Yeah, you're like 11 or 12. That's a big deal, dude. What if the What if the principal's like, "Well, good news, Steve. He's not going to shoot the school. Just one student." Now, yeah, he's just going to He just wants to kill you. Here, Steve. You stop him. You saved the school. That' be crazy cuz I remember like it
4:12 was a big deal at the time or so. So So I, you know, I thought and then he ended up like changing schools. Okay. Damn. That's it. Do you remember his name? I do, but I'm not going to say. Can we just Google? Can you text it to us so we can Google it? See if the computer later. Later. Just text it right now. I really want to know right now. Really want to know. Please. All right. Dude, that's crazy that you actually foiled a school shoot. I don't know, buddy. Come on. He might have actually enhanced that that guy's want and need. Kid was talking ████ And maybe, who knows? Or was he actually talking about something he wanted to do? I have no idea. That's not really a common joke I've ever heard anyone make. We knew this kid in my middle school who was got he got he got kicked out of the school because he said he wrote in his notebook how he wanted to kill this girl that he was in love with. Wow. And then he got kicked out and we all knew and since we knew him, he was always a little ████ you know,
5:03 little off his rocker. I think so. Like that attitude of like this guy's being weird and doing weird ████ he needs to be out is the thing we've lost society. I think everybody's too afraid to like everyone's afraid. Yeah. They don't want to be prejudiced. They don't want to like you want to push him over the edge. You don't want to bully him. But it's like, no, that's who you need to bully out of society. But I think that what people get mistaken is like that's a boundary. That's like something that you have to it's a it's a consequence for their actions. Like and I feel like if we don't instill that in kids and people more often, they're going to just be left to their own devices and just kind of do whatever they want. You think there's more school shooters now cuz we're soft? Cuz I thought that there's more school shooters because they're neglected and abused. Yeah. I think the last key kids plus anti-depressants equal school shooter. They're just off their rockers cuz they're just like medicated all ████
5:53 day. They don't come from a good home. Like I don't know any of these kids. The backstory is they came from a great home and I don't know what happened. Like it's the parents say that but then you actually look into the situation and they went through some ████ up ████ Yeah. What what are other common denominators that aren't like as clear? Like for example, did any of the school shooters in the last like ████ 10 years or whatever, do they take like martial arts as kids? I guarantee they didn't. I think one another one is severe neglect. Guarantee they didn't. Another one severe neglect. Like it's like cuz I just remember getting my ass beat and like I think that changed the way I understood people. Bro, that changes everything for kids, especially with your We see it happen all the time in our kids class, bro. Like I would Yeah. When you write a letter telling everybody why you did something so horrendous and crazy, it's because nobody's listening
6:43 to you and you need to be heard by somebody eventually and so you do this crazy act so people will listen to you. But then there's also kids that be saying dumb ████ all the time that no one listens to them. Like there's some mumbly ass like kids that I grew up with that just don't stop saying ████ that you're like doesn't make sense. But I don't think they're they're actually school the school shooter type, right? I think I think like if you're just doing the basics like you're an involved parent. That's the main thing. They're not going to be school shooters. School shooters are there because they've been completely neglected throughout their whole entire life. No one's involved. No one's there for them. They don't know how to have normal social skills. So then what ends up happening is they don't have friends cuz their parents don't even teach them that path. But like you got to imagine like let's say the the moment that you decide to do a school shooting, you're probably that's like let's say it's level 10, right? Like you're already like breaking point. That means at all these levels the
7:33 parents were oblivious and that's where the failure to me is. It's like if I couldn't I probably wouldn't been able to hide a gun my whole life when I lived in my parents house. They would find it. But that's what I mean by like it it starts with severe neglect because there's no interaction with the parents. There's no attention. They don't know what's going on at all. Sorry question. Like where do school shooters like get their guns? Are they getting like their parents' gun? Like parents A lot of times it's their parents they or they steal it from an uncle or some ████ Mhm. M. So, it's like a family member for sure where they get it from. Probably have to have really, really good gun rules at home. Think about being that age. Start with that. Yeah. Your home's probably really again, you know, there's some gun owners out there who are just not responsible. And they're pro, it's a reflection of who they are as people, you know, like if you're not responsible with locking your guns up. I wouldn't expect you to have, you know, a good hand on your shoulders
8:23 kind of, right? Like you're just kind of a dumbass probably. You know what's always an interesting one to think about? The Virginia Tech shooter. Yeah. But once again, he I think he was a parachute kid, wasn't he? Like his parents weren't there with him. Oh, really? Yeah. He was either adopted or or just not. Parents were overseas. That's a university, right? It's a college. And so it's like you get thrown to an American college in Virginia. And how did this guy get guns? Because he he wasn't he was like armed to the teeth. Yeah. How did he get it? But he wasn't like of legal age to buy them. He wasn't? I don't think so. Cuz don't you have to be what? Well, I don't know cuz he was in college. So you could buy rifles at 18. But he had like double handguns. Virginia though. Yeah, you never know. Different. But that's always the interesting one because everyone always accuses them of being white or black or something else. But then this dude was straight up I think he's Korean. Oh, he's Korean.
9:13 He's straight up. Oh my god. Ho ho Cho was able to legally purchase firearms despite being found mentally ill and ordered to treatment. There you go. Whoa. They just sold it to him. Oh, the common denominator is mental illness. 100%. Yeah, for sure. All of us have guns. Institutionalized. He was legally allowed to purchase the weapons he used in the shooting. So, he has like I think he holds the record of fatalities. He He killed 32 people. When you get an Asian to do it, they want a A+ everything. Genius. He optimized it. I was thinking about some a Simpsons joke. Wait, what did you say? Whenever there's an Asian doing something, they want to A+ everything and then be the top score guy. Yep. Over my family. That's why he's all these ████ white kids, they just wound people. ████ I'm
10:03 going to get some confirmed hits. Oh yeah, this kid was nuts, dude. Yeah, but then he's still overshadowed by like so many Sandy Hook, Colomb. But then like this f like look at these like photos they had of him like prior. Like if you're taking ████ Jojuts Tukawa photos then for sure you need to be like him double pistols broick he looks like he used to play a lot of Counter Strike. He had a manifesto and all that too. I guess it's like easy to say in retrospect that how you could have caught these guys so ████ easily. But then not having friends nobody knows these things are happening cuz there's no friends there. There's nobody like Steve to tell on you. There's nothing like happening where they're like they're not being caught. You got to be a narc. So like like like we were saying like levels up like there's all these stages they got away with it and then when the snap point hits well even being a parachute kid it's
10:53 like that means his parents aren't around. Maybe you just got to be around. Dude, I'm telling you bro that's a big deal. Well then something was probably just like I I don't know. Maybe like it's prejudice for me to believe that some people just have a defective brain because what about all the other parachute kids that become ████ surgeons? You know what I mean? Fine. Like wasn't it about a girl too or something like that? was just thinking about a girl. That's why he shot up the school. If weather was about anything, the capability to be able to think like this definitely isn't something that you can just be pushed into. I just think most people don't get pushed into doing something that got to have the prerequisites. Yeah. Maybe there's just something different about how he's like made here. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's true. You can see his eyes, bro. There's nothing there. You can see it. You can see some people in pictures you're like, "Oh, you really I think some people like it's like being a ████ like I don't know an X-Men where like you have the potential like
11:44 in your genetics to like do these things." But then some people it never unlocks and other people it's like after a stressful experience your mutation blossoms. Yeah, that's true. Cuz some people are self-destructive when they're sad and other people are like external with their destruction. You can kill 10 people in a in a in a college and you're like I got 20 more to 22 more. You're a sociopath. Yeah. You got to reload. Putting myself in that head space. Like when I moved from Virginia to San Diego, I remember being like, I hate all these people cuz I hate that this happened to me. And when I got to the school, I remember cuz I was so isolated from them. I used to just walk in a perimeter around the school. By the way, it was so weird cuz they have bars around the schools. And I was like, what the ████ is this? Cuz in Virginia, they didn't have that. And then California schools look like prisons though. They do. And and I was like, I'm in a prison or whatever. And you just you're just like I was like, I hate all of these people because they aren't nobody cuz it was the middle of school year. So
12:34 like they already have their friends. And so I just remember being like, I hate them all. I don't want to even be here. All that stuff. So I think when you're isolated, you can just completely classify and categorize everybody as like bad because you haven't been accepted yet. But when you do finally get friends and get accepted, you just ease up a little bit and chill. You realize you were tripping. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I was just I was But I had to make my in my life. I had to make my first like two friends for me to be like, "Oh yeah, okay. I'm being silly." But I don't think these people have that ever happen to them. When I was a kid, I used to There's some people I did not like, I would just fantasize about like trying to kill them in my head. I never did it. I never ████ did it, but I thought about that in my head. No, 100%. Like when you're a kid, you're like, I want to kill my mom. No, it's true. Yeah, it's true. There's plenty of people that like literally have uh almost you have those you play it out in your head. They have recreational obsessions with
13:24 murder and all that stuff, but they would never do it. That's like cuz you know, you're like, "Wow, that's crazy." I remember being at assemblies and like, you know, you're like 9 years old or whatever and you're like, "What if this assembly got taken over by terrorists right now?" Yeah. Like I'd probably I could probably stop them. But it's so dumb cuz And you're like And then the girls would think the girl that I like would see me stop it. You're running through those scenarios all day. So sick, dude. Right. They point the gun, you grab the barrel of the gun. Oh, dude. When you think back, it's just like some some nine-year-old kid walking over to a terrace and getting smoked. Three ninjas is not an accurate depiction of trying to sweep his leg real quick and just boom boom no shot. No shot. Try to punch him with the gun. Grabbing the barrel like this. ████ Nah. And then you're like, "Oh, f███." Just throws it. Yeah. Like there there's a there's a certain part that like I don't know if
14:14 it's like exactly true. I would have to look this up, but something tells me that a lot of these people that have this capability are not exactly articulate what they're worth because they don't get as much practice talking to people. So then I think the signs that someone could be this aren't very verbal. Like you're not going to see too many premanifestos. It's going to be the guy that incoherently talks. I think where you just like don't know what the ████ he's going to do. You know what I mean? Kind of like you got to try to talk to those people. I think dude, but that's the part that makes it like a loop. It's like they need to talk to someone but they can't because their social skills are stunted and they're usually not likable. That's why they get they they probably say some ████ that's like what the ████ and then you get bullied for it and it's like it's all a lot of the times I think it's like self-inflicted. They don't even know cuz they don't have good social skills. Exactly. That's the loop that they're in
15:04 and it becomes like almost like a dismal ████ like vortex of like I need to talk to people. I can't talk to when no one wants to talk to me. No one likes me. I'm unlikable. And then it's like how do you fix that? There was that one incel in Santa Barbara where he started shooting at girls. Remember? And then everyone's like, "Well, he wasn't a bad looking dude. It was just his mentality that was so creepy and weird." His manifest was weird. Yeah. He killed like six girls or something like that, right? But it's usually That's why I'm like, "Dude, a lot of the times it's like these guys are doing it to themselves." And then they blame society. But it's like, "You guys were probably They're isolated." Yeah. It's like the guy that goes, "Well, women just like ████ They don't like nice guys like me." Like you're not a nice guy. Yeah. You're probably a ████ weirdo. stuff. It's like they have no self-awareness. They have no social skills. So, it's like a cycle of them being dicks to people and people are like, "I don't
15:54 like this person." Exactly. Also, you know, if you listen to victims of school shootings that I've heard, they always say the same thing. It's like when they were actually shooting people, it's like they weren't even there. It's like they're just some something else happened. It's lights out, right? like they think they're just NPCs and they're shooting or or like they're medicated or whatever it is, but they're like not No one's home, dude. No one's ████ home. There's nothing behind those eyes, man. Like Nick was saying about the picture, there's nothing behind those eyes. The um That's why I like your thing of like just at an early age, you force them to learn their own methods of how to socialize, but without like, you know, those parents that try to like assist the socialization too much and then those kids end up extra weird. call them. Let's do a play date and let's I like the idea of like, no, get out there. You do it. You do it. You be the guy. You do it. And then eventually you
16:45 have to learn. One thing uh Jordan Peterson said that was like super stuck with me is about like, well, I'm starting to think about kids cuz we're all at that age, right? And they're like the number one most important skill you can instill in them is get them to learn how to be likable. Because when you're likable, people want to work with you. They want to hook you up. Like there's like a whole wealth of like networking that comes with just being a likable person. And I'm like, dude, that's crazy. But if the parents already ████ and like not likable, how are they going to instill that to to kids if they be like you? Yeah. They're going to they're just going to copy. But that's like I was like, damn, that is true. Because some people think, oh, I just want my kid to be smart. I want my kid to be like skilled. And I'm like, "Yeah, but then how many of us know that really smart ████ that I'm like,
17:36 I don't want to work with him cuz he's a ████ No. Yeah, of course. And like, but how many of us would be like, "Oh, that's the personality hire. Like, they're ████ but I love this person, you know?" And then it's like, "I want them around." Yeah. Be a personality hybrid. That is a really hard thing to teach a kid when you're not. Well, that just means if you're not a good person, don't have a kid, right? Yeah. But that, you know, that's not going to happen. But that usually the good person's having kids. Be a world where they teach this at school where they teach kids how to socialize with each other and they teach like these actual also those teachers have that problem themselves. They're all socially stupid sometimes. I mean when you think back to your teachers if you had to put them all in the graph how many of them had that quality? The substitutes less than than uh 50% right dude remember idiocracy that was made off of like the statistic that people
18:27 with higher IQs tend to not have as many kids. Yeah, which is true. So eventually the dummies outnumber the smarties and then we're all oochy oofy doofies. Yeah. That's like saying uh the people who are the richest should have the most kids, but that's not the case either. Exactly. It's always the ones with the most baby daddies that have the most kids. Yeah. I mean, Huntington Park was the leading uh what was it like teen pregnancy in America? For years. For years. Huntington Park. Damn. Let's go. Still on top on the map. It's not It's not teens in the Hamptons. It's not teens in They could They could afford abortions. Oh, and they can go to college cuz their parents are like, "Oh, you can't have a baby. It's going to ruin your life. Let's get an abortion and you go to college, you know, from you don't have to think about this anymore." Yeah. I mean, what is it like like it's a harsh truth that most what was it like a large number of births come from
19:17 irresponsibility, not necessarily like planning, you know? Absolutely. Cuz I know a lot of rich parents who just throw money at their kids and then their kids get all ████ up, too, cuz they're just like, "My parents don't really love me that much." Nah, it'll probably ████ you up. At a certain age, we're too old now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad. I'm glad. Our parents threw money at us now, we'd be all right. But if we were 18 and our parents were just throwing money at us, we'd be probably pieces of ████ I think. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever happened pieces of ████ Whatever happened in in my brain to like arrive at how ridiculous the thought would be to like shoot up a school, I don't know how that happened, but it was there. And the thought of me doing it was like a preposterous idea. You think just because I could doesn't mean I should. I just never I always thought it was a stupid thing to do. Ryan Ryan's looking at everybody who's doing it. It's like I would have done it like this, you idiot. You're KD.
20:07 But kind of though, like when you're thinking your head by yourself, you are kind of thinking that like uh what's the most optimal way? I had I had similar thoughts. Yeah, but then you wouldn't actually do it. But to be fair though, when I'm driving, I think about like, dude, what if I just like the Bill Bourbet where he just goes like, I could just do this and just drive right off the ramp. Like, I think about that all the time. Like, what what would my car look like if I did that? I I play it out of my head all the time. Is that okay? Yeah, I think that's I think it's normal to just think of stuff. It's not normal to do things without thinking. Yeah, that's called intrusive thoughts. I have a lot of intrusive thoughts. Yeah, it's mostly intrusive thoughts. I'm having one right now. What is it? And the video.
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