0:00 [Music] and welcome back everybody to a cuckoo episode of the careful boys where we have hey that's so nice today hey hey Jason Chen back again thank you very much thank you guys we're doing early branding for your merch yep that's so nice indirect branding indirect that's very good I'm going to you know I noticed that um I'm also wearing a shirt you notice it yeah I did it oh my God what kind of shirt is that yeah it's a shirt that it says excuse me what the hell's going on you everybody wrong yeah Link in the description box below everyone yeah yeah yeah but I I'm implying my intention was to imply what
0:52 it take two okay the shirt says fear everybody everyone every everyone everyone fear everyone it's like fear everybody but one one yeah and then where's where's the link the link is in the description Bel did you know that's the right way you don't say everybody anybody it's actually anyone everyone that's the correct grammar wait really but body feels more endearing I feel like it's no but then you're not talking about it's not right okay it's not right I'm sorry wrong that's wrong so because you're a master comedian that deserves a Netflix show and when you get your Netflix show you have to get the fear everyone tattoo because you said that to every said it and then you took on it consensually I just want to let you I just want to let everybody know that
1:42 anony is not wearing shoes right now yeah because does it stink does it stink would it give it to me let me see put it put it in my mouth that's how iell I don't know I was walking in the hot son earlier give it to him give it to him you're all talk dude we a masterful comedian good smelling feet I want to ask this question and it's Nick who's the masterful comedian he's the funniest guy in the room ████ you okay what don't be sarcastic with me what if anything is too serious to be joked about say that one more time what if anything is too serious to be joked about which I'm sure we're probably going to joke about it still my opinions or it just in the world too serious to joke about this is the part where you Rift too yeah too serious to joke about well you should
2:32 you probably should I don't think there's anything too serious to joke about but there are consequences for not executing your joke well well what about the timing like the new thing well I don't know because you know people will say the whole incident right now with Hamas and Israel it's it's you shouldn't joke about that because the timing right but there are people who can execute a funny thing yeah but it's done well yeah yeah like basson was recently on Pierce Morgan that ████ was good fun that was really good and he made uh some jokes about it but it was like oh that it wasn't malicious it was like oh that's funny but you you just brought up the uh hypocrisy yeah so it's like yeah his jokes are pointing out a fallacy or pointing out something that you didn't think about but I can totally imagine
3:23 some like dense woke ████ who don't get it yeah and they'll be like oh my God I can't believe you just joked about this issue you got to take it seriously but it is different that the reason why he's joking versus somebody that just wants to make you laugh like he's not trying to make you laugh he's trying to make you realize and that's like totally different it's very intelligent yeah the why I think makes a huge difference with that yeah I think um nothing should be off limits because I think comedy is how you heal so yeah there's times like where people try to make like like when people try to make jokes and it's bad then it doesn't really help with the healing but when the joke is good it actually I think helps with the healing and it brings everyone together more and I was I think there's like a person who could joke about it too like because I feel like he's really close to the situation B him
4:15 that he and he has a personal experience too so it's like his family and things so I think that's really nice but then if like I say some stuff it's like why you say some stuff we we look like we shouldn't be talking yeah but do you do you think that if we yeah I think is do you think somebody could that is outside of that outside of that um ethnic background and not having a personal experience to joke about it and I think if their perspective is relevant yeah but if it's like if they're like a football commentator commenting on baseball then it's like I don't then it usually doesn't hit you know how about how about the concept of like this is different but like let's say that there's a kid who as a child they were kidnapped bunch of horrible stuff happened to them they grew up to be a comedian let's just say and now they have like a whole run of jokes about
5:06 that but they're not necessarily telling it to other people that need to hear it they're just trying to make other people laugh about that when it's not something you ever needed to heal is that bad well it's his experience right or their experience yeah I don't to promote like does the audience notice that that person they're basically joking about things that most people would say don't joke about but they've been through it but they can do it I think it's good I think that's I think it's a fair game audience know that they've been through it yeah oh well not yeah totally fair game right yeah yeah it should be right I think even it's like almost hypothetical healing for yourself because you still know like for example like some of uh Pete Davidson's like 911 jokes about his dad and all that stuff I'm way on the other side of the coast I don't know what that ████ felt like or how people in New York were affected by that but when he says it and he's able to laugh about it for some reason I feel
5:57 like someone just gave me a hug about that whole situ situation and I don't know anything about 911 in New York so why talking about 911 denying stuff I have never wait wait can can I that that brought up a thing that I I was thinking about don't talk over Jason Jenny please he's not even talk anymore you literally just did that I'm a little confused he's talking over it right now take two take two he just nodding I was curious about the you cuz you said the 9 who said the 9/11 thing I want to make sure that I don't I'm not resp for whatever this is it wasn't me for sure okay so it's Anthony he doesn't think it happened 100% he fans definitely know that mainly St Joe he's like show me the proof a lot yeah okay I was thinking about the Nagasaki and Hiroshima the bombing uh oh yeah yeah sometimes you think about it huh dude the timing D too soon the ████ no but
6:48 it's been a while about it you said those stupid Japanese they deserve every piece of nuclear bombing yeah but I didn't say it though and radi radioactive poisonings yeah that's what you said Jason Jenny what about those two cities yeah so the the tell us about the dirty Jabs the 200 but you I know that's why I could say it oh yeah that's because of your personal experience so War you going to say for um to 200,000 people were died M kaput I shouldn't say died take two kaput because it's less serious when you say kaput and then accent too but nobody but in Japan people were like oh let's forget about it but right but then the 911 both are really bad but 911 3,000 people died and then they're like
7:39 we'll ████ never forget yeah but why I I was curious of like why your off about the never forget are you mad about that well no not mad about it no definitely don't forget but also 200,000 but people like so like Japanese people are like 200,000 let's forget and move on in America's 3,000 never again a like that yeah but I want which one do you side more with I don't don't ask me that question no I just mean like as a which one do you not side with yeah well I don't there's no side I don't want to how about this how about this I was asking you guys this I I have an opinion maybe maybe this could be I don't even know I'm just exploring but what if it's cultural what if Japanese people take more accountability so they're like that ████ happened it's my fault dude maybe we did something yeah D I don't know
8:30 trigger that Americans I don't think ever take accountability so they they just get punched in the face but they don't think that maybe we we might have caused the fight no I think the Americans is like God damn it those ragheads they don't like freedom and they don't like our women they ha us walking around in bikinis that's why they want to blow us up but that's also not those guys' fault cuz that's what the news tells them they don't like our freedoms they don't like our way of life that's why they F they don't they forget conveniently that from every single Administration before we've been bombing the ████ out of all of alqaeda Middle East and all that and before that the CIA built Al-Qaeda helped them out funded them ████ armed them to go against the Soviets for us so I'm just like we conveniently forgot all that
9:22 right and all of a sudden we fast forward to they just don't like our freedom yeah but then also like there's so many people who Bo every year inside like people shoot each other or like people eating each other's face and they're like yeah but they're just crazy yeah but then other people do 3,000 they're like that's ████ forget yeah yeah yeah so what are you trying to say you're just trying to say that everyone should forget about all the kaputs no no no don't forget about it but maybe like not think about it a lot who's think about a lot I don't think they think about I think most people are on only fans yeah that's true don't think about it so much think about it a lot don't think about it every year maybe you think that's a better SL then never forget think about it don't think about it so much then just a shrug like think about it sometimes but not too many times so you want to get rid of the no no don't get rid of it day or the Memorial Day or because it feels really
10:12 hurtful for like everybody too you know you feel like that like on September 9th it gets more anxiety September 10th you get more anxiety and then on like 911 you feel really really I feel people feel that because people are hurt like on the thing and people are a little more like tip toey yeah and I just feel like I don't know that because we've never got attack outside of Pearl Harbor on our own soil that it's like a big freaking deal where Japan's like we've been ████ attacked like for thousands of years this is just one other big one and we've had other ones then Mongols try to ████ come through and I don't know yeah I think that might be it too I also don't actually know how Japanese Japanese people feel about that yeah that's true well I I I think I mean from my perspective it's it's
11:03 like that was a different Administration a different Japan that's like how Germany's like we're not Nazis anymore that was their mistake that's what they wanted so but then yeah did you know that in Germany they can't even say Nazi oh really yeah I didn't know I have a friend who's there and he was like yeah you can't say that so what did they say them dudes they they go um the bad guys oh they go the they do the whole sign they do they do the whole sign they they don't do it big they do a small they do a small like you know guys like that they whisper it yeah yeah that's pretty cool what else can you not joke about right now or generally generally I think it's gotten even more taboo like
11:53 from pre lockdown lock pre- lockdown we were able to joke about almost everything and then during lock lock down I think everything was like oh you got to be careful I miss like racist jokes and all those kind of jokes and now it's like the birth of care the that's where the birth of careful boys came in but then now it's going back to oh you could joke again I think Asians don't really joke about Asians like I try not to because I feel scared that other Asians would be like why the ████ did you make us look that does happen though what's the next Generation called gen Z I heard they're ████ crazy now though the next generation of like influencers I heard they've been saying the FW n bomb and they're not even black like I heard it's ████ I heard it's complet and that's the culture that'll probably make its way mainstream but I heard yeah but I heard the next generation of creators right now are ████ crazy I that's totally in line
12:44 with what happens everything's defiant of everything swings yeah yeah yeah yeah cuz I think cool yeah cuz I think us we we we got the brunt of the censorship and so we're trying to fight back a little and then I think there's like the UTI guys are a little bit be uh but then the people that make UTI feel old this new generation I heard they're ████ crazy I haven't watched any of their stuff but that's just what I hear they must they must have brought the Call of Duty talk into the real world yeah call Cod Lobby dang CRA ever been called an nword so much by a 10-year-old wait Did they really by a white 10-year-old white 10-year-old Call of Duty like chat is crazy it's not even just Cod it's anything online where you have kids gaming and anonymity leag of Legends League of Legends ████ chat is one of
13:34 most that ████ was real life my mom's mouth has been ████ by a 10-year-old like 50 times already do you know how many PE best and boys have ████ my mom yeah dude yeah Mom in the mouth the ████ they say is crazy like I'm your ████ daddy I'm your daddy I ████ your mom in the mouth and you can hear that their voice hasn't even gone through puberty yet it sounds like I'm talking to a young woman how do you guys feel about that's so funny to me though it's ████ hilarious that's why I like it yeah well clearly somebody thinks it's harmless because it's never changed since the start it's never gotten better they have like advocacy groups that try to like detect it or they'll be there to be like you can tell on someone that says that to you to this advocacy group and they'll try to find them but there's no way you're going to find five billion people that are doing it the same time
14:25 yeah good luck also like but that's the thing like if they're intention isn't I mean they're angry but at the thing they're not going to ████ your mom in the mouth actually no they're just ████ changing weapons we bring that back but that's why like to to people who are so against or politically correct when you if you were to shine the light on that they've never seen that world and I don't think they they wouldn't even be able to wrap their minds around how explicit it is it's the the generation that's crazy wor ████ you could ever hear yeah and it's children yeah the worst ████ you could ever hear and it's kids saying it to adults I'm shocked yeah this what's funny it's even better when the adult starts arguing with a kid like man ████ you you you're a little kid you're a little ████ I I'll ████ your mom you know they go back that kid already won the ████ that these kids say make Adolf
15:16 Hitler's speech sound like a nursery rhyme if they were in a ████ roast battle and this guy's like ████ Aryan race whatever whatever you bring a ████ 10-year-old on ████ roast Adolf Hitler to ████ crisp you'll be like oh ████ to think that Adolf was just doing a roast battle and the other guy didn't get to go these 10-year-old Cod kids ████ make all the Nazis cry that make them cry dude yeah but that's like isn't that that's how it always is symmetrical logos what the ████ I know symmetrical logo that's what's funny about PC it's like when you put anonymity in the mix it goes out it's out don't matter comments people making Finas like it's all the same I wonder how many like really PC people like
16:07 secretively say crazy ████ online that too that too yeah that too or just in person with somebody when no one's around you know what I mean like yep yeah that's the that's like their release cuz it's healthy cuz it's fun you got to get it out yeah that's their release dude it's like a pastor getting caught like ████ the whole church you know so like yeah it's like I think like all the most goody tushu ████ out there that are always getting caught for like the worst ████ like those anti-gay like politicians always getting caught in a airport bathroom jacking the dude off or something always it's always like that dude Senator what are you doing now yeah it's very like I mean it's called politically correct and then you look at what did politicians do when they said everyone's got to wear mask they inside
16:57 and they went to parties and there was photos and videos of them at events breath during those pictures it's like that's politics bites politics is literally just the veneer so it's like okay I think you could still joke about anything like you said as long as you're really good with timing execution and identity like who you are if you if you are not good with those but your intention is to joke do you still get punished for saying a bad thing well I guess it depend on it leav your mouth CU you you just have it's like you should get you know I don't think it should be illegal but I think I think punished is determin on like so if you're socially stupid enough to try to execute uh an offensive joke to an ex-convict and then he slaps you across the face and you're like why it's
17:49 like you're ████ stupid bro that guy's a cold hearted killer and you took the ████ risk I think you should get roasted but not like physically I think you should think people should be mad at you but because it makes you try harder you're like oh okay I missed the mark like let me the severity of the impact of your joke should determine the severity of your punishment but I don't think you're extremely influential person and you have millions of kids that that follow you or something like that and you make some sort of joke that it's like it's teaching these people to you know act the same cuz you have influence your punishment should reflect that but if you're making the exact same joke and nobody listens to you except you're saying it to like your close friend you're close friend reprimanding you is is fine yeah but then nobody people's going to be so scared of saying the thing that's why people so scared of saying anything cuz then well if it's the wrong thing to say because of you're
18:40 like Ryan said like either not an authentic identity relevance or poor timing or poor execution then like but you're an influencer yeah then people might be influenced if you're if it's not shown that you're like publicly ridiculed in some way for making that mistake right but what if the intention intention is like the Shane Gillis thing I don't know that there's two sides of you know people taking two sides I think the intention is clearly positive then the punishment shouldn't be extremely ter like terrible but you know what I mean like cuz we were talking about this yesterday taking intention to account we still believe in that you know what I mean intention still whereas like there was a period of time even during like Co and stuff like that where it's like intention isn't the same as action you can't just have good intentions and do the wrong thing you know what I mean which is true and one but like we're talking about yeah
19:32 talking execute well like even if your intentions are good cuz there's so many people that have good intentions but they have horrible follow through and it and it comes out so wrong and if 90% of people are like that was stupid fool are you dumb and they're like well that's not what I meant I meant to be cool and it's like but you're autistic and you ████ can't do anything right when you come to ████ try to explain something well to people or whatever yeah like you don't consider people's feelings cuzz you just don't ████ think like that so it's like I don't know man it's it's it's to me I'm just like just do it and then whatever how people react you'll find out that's on you yeah it's also kind of funny that nobody gets mad at like let's say that you have a really good black joke right it's so ████ good but you're just not black and you write it for a black guy to say it shouldn't you still get in trouble
20:23 technically cuz it's your joke and you thought of it but like you had a different identity perform it so you don't get in trouble but then the way that people view everything is like they blame the person who says it like you said Jason wrote your set no Jason's racist you know but Jason is racist isn't that funny yeah that's like that's like Neil BR he wrote half of the Chappelle show yeah but that doesn't it doesn't happen that way nobody comes running for the guy that like authored it you know it's only the person who says the thing also we're talking about timing like you you might be joking around about something that's not sensitive in that moment and then 10 years later it becomes a really sensitive thing that that's true yeah that's weird that's weird but then the thing is if people don't like ████ it was like cool when they just said they didn't like it but then now the difference is that people react with tears of rage and they scream it's like that's the problem the problem is that
21:13 you became like little ████ babies it's like just say you don't like it that's it but how long is the gap cuz because you were saying if you say like a bad thing and then F how what is the gap like 5 years later if they don't like it but I feel like it's going to be like that for forever though I mean we're always going to say a thing that the Next Generation don't like there's always cultural relevance and context for that time right so like I don't believe in judging the past with today's morality because for me like it's so easy to look back and go duh right but we're looking at it from a place where we learned and then we go duh slavery is wrong like we know now right and then it's it's like you're you're looking at the people back then and say if I if I were that if I were you back then I would have stood up against it and it's
22:03 like no you wouldn't you would have ████ been benefiting from it too like you just it's like there's so many things right now that we're probably not standing up against that our great grandchildren are going to go can you believe to do this ████ and we're like well we don't ████ know yeah and I think that's the issu is right now like people don't have that ability to see back then that was just normal one year you think like how long until you're forgiven like one year like if you say a crazy thing now and after one year can you be like I grew I think if they if no one said anything within a week a week then ████ it a week a one day one week wait wait 1 hour to recover you're saying like if you did yeah no no no cuz cuz like if you if you said something stupid immediately you know if it's
22:54 stupid or not and you're like why the ████ did you say that Jason okay but it doesn't take 2 years to go I can't believe you said that Jason okay what if I you accidentally said something bad executed a joke right and we all laugh we're like right right but then but then two years later but if two years later I go you know what Jason I've been thinking two years ago you made this very insensitive joke and I've grown since then and I know now that that joke is so inappropriate is that what you're talking about yeah that too like all the things yeah but but basically he's saying like people that ask answering for him every time I think I understood what you're saying but if you ask him he'll never ████ explain ████ that's why I'm doing it for
23:44 him cuz I was thinking of Michael Richards remember how he had that outburst and he never recovered yeah till this day Michael Richards from yeah Kramer from Seinfeld at was it Laugh Factory that seemed like a mental break was crazy though that seemed like he just lost his ████ mind cuz he does try to like go on stage and then they just boo him off right like right from the G yeah never it never uh came back damn cuz that wasn't really like a joke that was just like a that's that's the key right there it's like he was like a he was like Angry okay but what if yeah he had a chain of events that made him said a crazy thing and then immediately after he's like oh ████ so then what he's not forgiv did he ever apologize for it yeah he apologized a ton of times what if he starts doing like confed at Friendly comedy but you know what it is though if Michael Richards had like a killer ████ 30 minute special or
24:34 something then everybody would forgive him it's true like if he came out with bangers and just like made fun of all that ████ everybody would be like himself like you you talk about Shan Gillis right yeah like when he got in trouble for the neuter stuff the the Asian jokes he called himself out for he called himself out for he got canceled whatever everybody was like happy but then he released a special that was like a banger and everybody was like dude this guy is sick like ████ it's good thing you didn't get SNL you know they talk to him like that that's what that's what he needs to do he needs to even self- produce a special even if he's filming it in his own room so when someone does a banger like that and recovers is it is that mainly people forgiving them or is that them just getting new fans that don't even know that's a combo of both I bet you the Louis CK fans that like fell off came back you think so I'm I think what it is it's like at a restaurant right like hey
25:25 here's the ████ steak or whatever like uh I'm so sorry let me redo it and here's another one you're like oh that's the ████ so their Yelp review went from Two and then they went back erased it and they made a five okay but how many how many times how many times what like what if they bring you the steak again and then if it's bad again you're probably not going to trust the third not going to trust it again yeah Shane Gillis earned his his comeback ████ you got to be better than the first this's already calculating I only got two chances just tell us what you said and when you said it we work from there he has a video out there that's haunting him he's like how do I delete it [Music]
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