0:00 [Music] Welcome back to Careful Boys. Today, in honor of my boy Tyrese Hallebertton being voted the most overrated NBA player this year by his peers. Yeah. Wait, they do that? Why are they hating? They were hating. I think this is like the first year they did that. I never heard of it before this. But how is it overrated if this is the first time he's getting a little attention like that? Well, he just constantly wins, right? He just keeps on winning in fa in the face of all the doubters, right? That's That's So we're talking about So that's overrated cuz he's actually proven himself. I would argue he's underrated. Yeah, cuz he's finally getting a like I don't know. But he got voted that before these playoffs and I feel like these playoffs now that's why he keeps saying overrate that. Like that's been his Oh, he's dangerous cuz he got a chip on his shoulder. He's probably going to win. I
0:50 keep seeing all these broadcasters keep saying like, "Okay, yeah, but but the Patriots aren't going to win this series." I love that cuz I'm like, "Oh, I know that's what they're using." That's funny. So, we're going to take we're going to talk about the most overrated ballers. Let's start with LeBron. Okay. Yeah. What? Yeah. Okay. Overrated. Yep. For where he's hot. Hot takes only. Overhyped. Oh, where he's at in his career now? Right now, is he overrated or underrated? I mean, he's always going to be overrated compared to LeBron that he used to be as far as like I would say, are we comparing him to other players like top players in the league at the same time? as far as like his star power, how much he gets paid, how much he brings to the team, would you put that in consideration? Sure. Is he the oldest player in the NBA right now? Yeah. Right. So, like he's able to hang at his age at a high level. Look at the Olympics and he's breaking records.
1:41 I'd say he's underrated. And didn't he just score 40 like a couple couple months ago? Yeah. He's still crushing it. And I feel like because Luca came to Lakers, LeBron's stock goes up 100%. He gets another two years in the NBA. as a Lakers fan, what happened? What do you mean? Well, you guys got LeBron, you guys got there's a lot to figure out. Like, I feel like everyone expects like as soon as you get a key player, it's all going to get figured out that season. You know what I mean? And I feel like this season's uh postseason is like the the best example of like things shifting from the superstar era. You know what I mean? You know, you know what the Achilles You know what the Achilles heel is? What's the Achilles heel? Too much ego in the Lakers. Everyone wants to be number one. They don't know how to play together. That's a hot take. I love it. Mhm. And we don't have a big man. No big one. That is the short answer. That is the problem. The short answer. They can't just pass it to Kobe anymore. I mean, like, what are they going to do? Kobe's taking all the
2:31 shots, dude. We were talking about this yesterday, right? If LeBron if this is his last This is his last season for sure. Who said that yesterday? Didn't Didn't um Somebody said he confirmed that yesterday. What? Somebody was talking about that. Aris told us that. Oh, Aeris said this was his last. We can't trust We can't trust Aris. I don't know if I trust Aris. That's word around Crypto Center, I guess. Oh, and he works at Crypto Center. Yeah, he works there. That's right. Wait, last season with the Lakers or last season? Last season in the NBA. What? According to Aerys, he cryptogies goog. He's like crypto. Damn. If it's his last season, which unconfirmed, all right, then I'm like, yo, dude, like Lakers, let's go. Right. But if he's got like three more seasons in him, I'm like, Lakers, feel free to trade him. Sure. But but but can they I bet you it's not in his contract that I
3:21 bet you he's got a no trade. I think he's going to in his contract with the Lakers right now. LeBron I think he's got a no trade unless he unless he lifts it. No, I think he's I think he's free to Yeah, they're speculating it's his last year. A lot of articles reporting this. Yeah, if he's got two or three more years, trade him back to the Cavs and and he can lift the Cavs up. That's what they need right now. No trade. He has control over whether or not he's traded. Oh, it's his control. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. So if So if the Lakers want to trade him, but he wants to stay in LA. Got it. Yeah. He's going to be like, "Oh, Bronnie." Exactly. Exactly. Well, if it's then it better be his last season. So cuz he got to go out swinging, right? Where would he go anyway? Like would he go to like New York? No. That's why he's saying go back to the Cavs just for fun. Oh, right. That's pretty good. I would probably imagine one more chip. Yeah,
4:13 that closes the loop. But are the Cavs close? I mean, the Pacers took him out pretty good. I know. Who's their star? Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Donovan Mitchell. Bro, Donovan and LeBron would be crazy. Donovan and LeBron would be tight. But I don't That whole squad like they're like a really strong overall team and they just need like one more thing to push them over and they need the experience. Yeah, the story would be too perfect though. And without a back to Cleveland. So, LeBron to do that. Yeah. And I think and then without a LeBron on in the Lakers franchise, as long as we get a big man, then I'm okay with like a transition season. Get rid of Brun. Bring Giannis. Giannis Luca. I think that actually could happen. That would just be I feel like that could happen cuz on the Giannis list cuz we know he's not going back to Milwaukee, right? Like where the hell is he going to go? I think the Lakers are in that conversation. Yeah, bro. I wish we had Lakers got Dame a couple years ago. I know. But it's okay. Damon.
5:05 Damon. I thought Damon Giannis were going to do really well together, but I guess he got injured, right? He got injured. Damn. And then got injured again. Is he getting to that age? Is he aging out? I mean, what is it? The Achilles. Yeah. Oh, dude. Achilles are so hard to come back from. That's a tough one. Overrated, Damian. Damen Lillard. Dam. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Larry Bird. Overrated. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Larry Bird. Who's more overrated right now? LeBron or Curry? Right now? Right now? Curry. Well, just cuz injury stuff. LeBron plays. Yeah. Even I think that's a tough argument though in general just because Steph is so like they're How old is Steph? 37 36 37 maybe 37 maybe. So I don't know if you were going to see it. I'm just waiting for Joe to contribute to this conversation. I was
5:57 and then I that's all I know about basketball. Just say just say some random Joe stuff. Yeah. What do you think? I did I did say things meaningful. I said the reason why the Lakers they don't got the game going right now is cuz there's too much ego in the game. I like that. Hey, how about this? Speaking of Lakers, what do you guys think of Luca? See how skinny he is now? Fan photos. Yeah. Or actually, who knows? We We haven't We haven't seen him really become him yet. Yeah, you're right. He's still finding himself. He's still find himself on the But also, they hyped him up so ████ hard that now he has to live up to those expectations. And if he doesn't, because what people really want is the next Kobe to come out or But that's not gonna happen because you'll never be Kobe. You gotta be Luca. Yeah, you should. We should call him and tell him that. Yeah. Hey, you'll never be Kobe. You more just be Luca, man.
6:51 I I know everyone wants another Kobe, but you're going to live in a shadow. Luka Magic is is is he needs a thing. Like he's got to be like he's like the three-point guy like all day or like, you know, he's like the slam dump guy. Like he's got to have a thing, you know? Hey, slam dunk guy. If you saw cuz he's from Slovenia. Yeah. Yeah. What would you expect his game to be? Would you think he's more of a slam dunker or you think he's a freethrower? Freethrower. He gets fouled. He gets fouled and they can rely that he'll make the shot. He's not Shaq. He's going to get it. Well, you're pretty close cuz he's a really good shooter. We just We just need a big amazing shooter. That's all. Honestly, I like if Braun has a couple years, we need to just let Brun do his thing cuz they play too similar. Luca and Braun, their styles are similar. It doesn't shine. That's like the classic formula for any team. They're not allowing each other to shine. And they're both so co I think it's opposite
7:42 of ego. I think they're both trying to be cognizant of the other so much that they can't shine. And they're like really trying to be as considerate as possible. But both stats are still good. This is how good I am at lying. I don't watch basketball. But wait, what? I can just make it up and make you think that I'm actually serious. This video just took had a huge twist. All right. Jason Tatum, overrated or not? People don't like him, huh? Channy Tatum's even better. Yeah, I like Channy more. Wait, why do people not like Cuz I've been seeing this a lot. Janie can can sink the three. Why Why do people can't stand Jason Tatum? Ask Mike. I think cuz he's he's boring as a as a character and now it's so much about like social characters. Like Anthony Edwards is so goddamn lovable and charismatic that like you put him next to Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum I think is actually underrated. You look at his resume and what he does for the team and
8:32 how skilled he is, but he's just like, look at his Dorito commercials, any of his interviews, all the memes about him are literally just like what was it after he won and they're like, uh, he's in the copy like Kobe photo speeches. Literally like, "Oh, I remember that. That was hilarious." Yeah. Like people just don't ████ with He has no original lines. I see. I see. And he's on the Celtics. Most hated team and people don't ████ with him. And so it's just in this social era doesn't work. I was watching this um quick little video about like this new up and cominging player. I think he's he's from Japan or Korea. The dude from Memphis. But is he a is he collegiate or is he NBA? He came from the uh Olympic Japanese Olympic team, I think. Oh, so he's playing for Memphis. Yeah, he's playing for Memphis. NBA with the Japanese dude. Yakamoto. Yakamoto. ████ Yakult guy. Yui Yui.
9:22 Yeah. Yakultto. And it's cool because he he's learning English and they're teaching him slang words here which is cool. Did you hear that the Wait, is he NBA or Okay. Yeah, he's in the NBA. You hear that? They're flirting the All-Star game concept to be US versus the world. I love that idea. I love that idea cuz they have enough international players now. The world the world team looks kind of stacked. Who's on the world team, dude? Luca, Joic, Giannis. Say less. Like we got what? LeBron, K. I mean, they're just They got Yaoing, Aunt. We got Aunt Jason Tatum. What up, guys? Come join our Patreon because there's hundreds of videos dating back to 2019. Support the channel's growth and new ideas and tap into the closer community by joining our Discord. Come chat with me inside and then you can say funny things to me and
10:12 get the opportunity to suggest new video ideas. Come join our Patreon. Thank you. Link is in the description box below. Wait, are number seven a cuz these guys come from different and they're number seven. Yeah. So they wouldn't represent the US cuz they're from their home like like Joker would but they play in the NBA though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they they would want to rep their home country. So it's international versus home team. I mean Americans. But the American team is just going to be all black guys. Well, yeah. But you'd have like Hallebertton. He's from Wisconsin, right? He wouldn't be playing for the world team. All right. Overrated. Underage. uh SGA as MVP. I can't say he's overrated because I don't want to jinx anything right now. We only won one game. I'm not jinxing ████ He's good, man. He's a baller properly rated right now. If you went MVP with all
11:02 these guys, I think you're definitely I don't want this to happen to you, but because you're rooting so hard, I want the next six games to be a total ████ loss. Oh my god. So by game by game five already, you're just like, it's over. It's all over. Get it. Bad juju time. Dude, you're not going to get any Brazilian barbecue. You're pulling a sub. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. That's why I said I don't want this to happen. This guy separated for this guy. Get this guy the salmon. He'll be having the chicken. I ████ hate salmon, too. Brazilian barbecue. What else is there? Who overrated? Yic. Yic. Yic is slightly underrated still. Yeah, his numbers are crazy, dude. He he also kept them in that whole series against OKC to seven games literally with no coach when he's on the floor the game changes bro it's like his game like
11:52 he's such a baller and but when you're when you're watching him I think the way he moves makes him underrated because awkward so yeah slow looking he balls it and it looks like he's just playing with like his little brothers all the time that's what he's like oh check this out overrated overrated underrated Tom Tibido I'm going to say underrated I think that was unfair. They they ditched him after what he did for them. Yeah. Michael Michael Jordan overrated. Scotty Pippa under underrated because it's like Scotty Pippen underrated for sure cuz part of me feels like why why fire your coach after he took you this far just so you could rebuild again. Right. Right. Like cuz I feel like what we said or what you were saying about how Luca and LeBron came, it does take a while for team chemistry and it's like you get a whole new coach and you have a you have to implement a whole new system with there must have been something in the locker room that we don't know about cuz like for example Brunson's dad I guess
12:42 just got fired as he was an assistant coach. He's out like two days ago. Is Brunson going to dip? I don't know. Or maybe dad too. Or maybe he agrees, right? Like maybe there's something going on inside the organization where you don't know. You think he hates his dad? Cuz they lost. You think he hates his dad? They have to have somebody to blame. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. Like, why are they scapegoating him if he's good? Unless there's something going on inside the organization that we don't know. And the official narrative is like he's a good coach who's just not going to be able to take them farther than he has. Cuz it's like dad coaches always ████ bottleneck their son's ████ you know, future. Well, yeah. That's the idea. You set him up pretty good. I think so, too. But that's He's no Lavar Ball. The meme is that, you know, he's, you know, having the dad around wouldn't be good for the for the player. Yeah. Yeah. But he's been there for like a long time, right?
13:32 All right. Overrated. Underrated. Michael Jordan's son, Scotty Pippen's ex-wife. Their relationship. Overrated. Underrated. Underrated. That's We don't talk about it enough. We don't They need to make a ████ TV show. It's interesting as hell, dude. Like Pippen will always be in the shadow, dude. No. Pippen's always getting dunked on by Michael Jordan in every way. The entire bloodline. His ████ ex-wife is just after. She's the She's the real demonic one, dude. Did she say she was having sex like five times a day or some ████ with it? Something crazy like 17 times a night. Something insane. Who? Pippen. Pippen's ex-wife. Yeah. Yeah. With Jordan's son. No, with Scotty Pippen. I think she said her. She was having sex like every every night like five times or whatever with Scotty Pippen and now she's ████ Jordan's son. Do you think Michael Jordan is like, "Son, what are you doing, dude?" No, I think he's going. You think so? He's so competitive
14:22 and Scotty's talked ████ on him recently. Oh yeah, that's right. Enough where I think a tour. But do you think Jordan's son competes on how many times he could come versus Pippen? I do think that I think he bets on it. Do I ████ you better though? Like am I better than Pippen though? Yeah, I think so. Am I better than Pippen? No, cuz he was on a book tour, right? Yeah. It was like Pippen and who were the other bulls at that time? Like Luke Longley? Like random like two other bulls. And they went on a tour talking ████ about Michael Jordan. Yeah. That is so weird. That's kind of tough though. I like the drama from 96. I mean, that's the only way they get attention in the media is if they talk about Jordan. So, it's kind of sad. All low hanging fruit. Who's Who's your Who's your goat? Jeremy. Come on, brother. Really? Overrated. Underrated. Overrated for sure. Over like a ████ One good season. We're still talking about him right now, brother. Hey, come on, man. He He just
15:12 couldn't get started. Linsanity was dope. He just have confidence in himself. No, Lindsanity was dope. Best years of my life. Okay, for real, though. My favorite players. Who do you think wins the goat conversation? Y'all mean wait. Oh, goat. Michael Jordan wins goat. Overrated. LeBron just cuz he got a shoe. Nah, because it's just like the level of the level of play that he was doing even in. No, it was so exciting. He was like the Mike Tyson of basketball. Did you get shorter? What happened? He got closer to the table. Oh, he's kind of like what Caitlyn Clark's doing right now for WNBA cuz like bringing the eyes, bro. People want to see It was exciting. Like the dunks and all that, dude. And because everyone hates her, it kind of makes you want to watch her more. Yeah, because all the WNBA players hate her. The WNBA itself hates her. Yeah, they're going to they're But when we were kids watching
16:03 like all that, it was crazy. And then after I stopped watching, but that's but even but that's what I'm saying. Everyone's talking about Caitlyn Clark and that's such a smaller way that Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan was like ████ 100x that like every country in the world knew his face. Yeah. The aura and in Space Jam. Yeah. Exactly. No social media. And we were talking about this yesterday. We're walking. There's a difference, right, with again I'm I'm Kobe all the way for every other reason. They didn't play exciting. His mom What are you talking about? Anyways, his mama mentality was nasty, right? He would show up at like 4:00 a.m. to the gym. He would just overwork, outwork everybody. first one and last one to leave. Right. Jordan would play 36 holes of golf, be so petty that he would ████ like lose betting on the golf game. They'd be like, "All right, well, I bet you I'm going to win by 29 tonight and score 50." Yeah. Those are crazy stories. Total different gangster. But all those guys are just off the rocker, dude. Like they're
16:53 they're completely off the rocker. To get to that level, you have to be Yeah. And when all the pressure is on you, brother, and nobody's even talking about other bulls. It's all on you. Yeah. And you can be that good. Didn't you guys used to run into Kobe when he would go practice? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kobe used to practice at the same uh he would practice at UCI. It was like a smaller basketball gym and then my old college crew called Modern. We rehearsed at that gym. And when sometimes we have super late night practices, I went all night. One time we saw Kobe at like 6:00 a.m. just like walking into the gym by himself to practice and he like filmed one of our like rehearsals cuz we asked someone to like film our last run through. What? You asked him like, "Hey, can you hold this camera real quick?" And you're like, "It's 30. It's only 30 minutes." You're like, "I need that. That's a private show. You cannot film this. This is a closed ████ practice. What the ████ are you doing? I don't
17:43 care who you are." Kobe who? Kobe what? Yeah. Okay. You don't look Japanese. Give me that thing, dude. Oh, like the soccer player. Last one. Last one. Overrated. Underrated. Uh, Angel Reese. Oh my god. Probably overrated. Is there someone thinks she's underrated? I don't know. Shack. Shaq does not really believe that. He does not believe that. For real. He likes her ass. He wants her He wants her to play ball in her underwear. But what I will say though is like Caitlyn needs her though. They need each other. They need each other. They're like I think Batman Robin I mean Joker Joker and Batman dude. Like you think that Caitlin would quit the NBA because she's like it's not even fun anymore without Angel. I need someone I need someone uh I need my equal. That's what she's saying out there. Bro, you you know who was really underrated because it was during the time where um there's so many all-star players that they didn't really get to shine but they should have shined harder is Dennis Ramen. I think he shined pretty hard.
18:35 He's pretty unforgettable, man. I thought you were going to say Carl Malone, though. I thought you say Jason Kid. He was like his style of play.
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