0:00 [Music] welcome back careful boys we are very careful boys today we got can today we got an interesting conversation we were kind of having off camera about how our parents have kind of accepted or adjusted to the fact that we all have kind of weird jobs and weird lives yeah because over the years i just realized that i'm surrounded by circus clowns yes everywhere all around me right and um i do have friends from you know like the professional sector like just traditional jobs or whatever but then i was like in this room today nobody here actually works in that field and all of us i mean you like can like i think from childhood as your first job or like you working was like periodics and touring
0:50 the world that was yeah i mean i had a part-time but i only worked for that like but that was like the start of your career and you've been in entertainment ever since right and then so like i was like oh ████ how did your guys's parents take that oh so my parents actually they've always been supportive of my hobbies but then when i got older graduated high school they're expecting you to go to college learn whatever and they're like i didn't think you were gonna ████ try to dance for life what the hell is wrong with you then i actually the reason why i started dancing more was because i didn't get into college or the college that i wanted to get into which was cal state long beach right because there was this thing that happened where i got admitted and so i was like cool pick my classes and then like three days before class starts i get a letter i'm like oh we cancelled your mission i'm like why did you do that yeah they did that to me because they they
1:41 looked back at my record and they're like oh we found this one thing like it was like in my english class or something i got a d so like just because of that they're like now we don't want you to come to school anymore so from that i was like all right i guess i'm gonna dance and do my part-time job d for dance yeah d for dance but then their reaction was kind of like they're like okay you can dance but just make sure you go back to school make sure you you know get a job and all this so they basically kind of didn't want me to keep doing it but i just kept doing it anyway but yeah that sounds pretty kind and reasonable yeah they didn't get mad because it's like what can you really do i'm surprised your parents didn't do the traditional beat your ass to be a pharmacist thing no no they actually didn't want me to be any of that they wanted me to be like like a architect or something like my dad you know something like he does an architect yeah he's an artist he does a
2:31 contracting are you an only child no i have an older brother yeah we did a whole thing about him yeah was i here for that no no no i wasn't either what does your older brother do so uh i don't want to talk about what he does let's just put it like that yeah oh what the ████ you'd have to kill us and then uh okay how about this he's he's a rapper you know he's a rapper and they they don't care what he does like my parents don't care i only ask because it's like like for example i have an older sister who's very successful has children does like regular ████ so i feel like my parents are a little more relaxed on me do they oh so they don't compare you because they feel like we already got one out of them outside of me they already got a good one maybe the subconscious like i'm the boy so like i if i produce the sun then like the name goes on but at the same time i have like the second most common last name in the world who gives a ████ that's very true
3:21 you know what i mean very true you must restore the lee name yeah the lead dynasty is definitely under threat if i don't produce errors i know they're like i don't know but i asked because you know like i can understand how parents sometimes end up doing that yeah yeah that's a different answer than i was expecting dude yeah um the only time i ever felt like my dance career was like kind of done was like after we actually already made it and i started traveling a lot and then because i wasn't home anymore she would always be like okay you know when you're done traveling make sure you go back to school please like you have to and i was like after you're done making all of this money traveling the world ████ all these hoes make sure you go back to school yeah they were still very adamant of me going back to school and getting that normal life because they knew that maybe maybe they foresaw it maybe they were like maybe this entertainment stuff doesn't really last that long because it
4:12 really didn't i mean it lasts for like 10 years but like you know now i'm thinking like man they were probably right like i probably should have done something on top of dance but i never did dan did you ever tell them that your mom might ████ come what the ████ no that's a good thing you want that reaction she might be like she's like i knew it so you're gonna go to school you're gonna go to school you knew it um city westminster she's like where's she from my mom city is where she's from yes they come too bro mom's come too you're boyina park oh one of our men no no that's where silk city is that's my hood baby is that where it is in suck city right yeah totally i like to work with this guy with my first job this guy is so cute my mom's from
5:02 vietnam what job did you say you quit oh i was an auto part delivery driver so i worked at a auto parts like they they basically did resale like they buy it was it an asian business no it was like a white dude yeah like it's like when you when you're at a mechanic and then they need a part for that car they call in yeah yeah but it was like whatever because i just kind of drove around listening to music it was super chill but then the opportunity came up to dance and i was like dude i'ma quit this ████ dude can i ask what your parents do unless you guys all went over this already no his dad's an architect right targets my mom used to i can't ████ tell you i can't tell you well that's all i can say my mom used to work at china airlines so she used to be not a flight attendant but the people that work at
5:52 the counter and then she became uh she did nails yeah so with me yeah now she does nails have you been to an auto zone before have you ever walked into an auto zone and just yelled i'm in the zone and the guys there are just like god damn another one no i walk in there and i go oh oh oh all right they're like wrong you get the ████ out of here yeah they throw a wrench at you and ████ no it's um actually yeah i i actually delivered to like pep boys and like all the like honda centers oh they're actually answering my question what a sport i care i care about your thank you bro opinions so hypothetically we're going back to the topic um what does what did your parents think of what you do now yeah how about now oh no you're not dancing anymore when you gotta go to school yeah i actually edit
6:42 videos now and i do a video editing company yeah you have a successful yeah yeah it's my vlogs yeah it's jk he had it's mike tyson he had its tiger belly he had its who else um ████ i don't know this there's a bunch yeah you know cat from uh but she was here before oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no we don't know her okay well anyway not the one who was here yesterday right yeah and barbara i'm starting with barbara too oh cool yeah just like our our circle pretty much we don't we don't mention barbell here anymore mike tyson's not really our circle unless you talk about uh barbell brigand right by rizzo uh liz yeah we talk about that we'll talk about that reference the does your mom feel like it's more legitimate now because you have an editing company yeah and so now like when i have friends over she knows like oh those are my like employees they're like mad dance friends yeah those are dance friends are the worst yeah the
7:32 answer suck yeah dude i haven't i haven't toured in like over a year because of kovit yeah well we still did show us doing copic actually we did like one or two shows it was it was super random but then after that this is like the first year where i'm like okay no more dancing i'm just going to focus on business cool yeah what about what about relationship stuff are you doing any of that right now no staying out of the game yeah it's a ████ rocket huh it's like it's been two years now yeah it's a ████ racket how about you nick did your what was your mom's reaction like you want to be a ████ fighter the hell you can't even fight me yeah honestly there was a little bit of that she's like you're a little ████ you'll never make it son that's what she would say to me uh no but the because same sentence your actual goal was to be a pro fighter right that was the first before you got into fitness and stuff yeah so i started i wanted to fight and then they were all looking at me like i was ████ crazy but i would
8:22 tell them that like oh i'm just joining this this karate school that's what i told them and they were like oh okay i'm just doing karate nothing crazy so you didn't tell them like you're ufc no it was none of that ████ and then i came back with like my ear all ████ up and they were all like wrong with it what's wrong with it nothing it's normal now i didn't realize it was that hard it touches it's hard if i look if what are you doing oh my god i've seen that during fights i've seen that they do that oh that's a move but yeah you ████ dig your ear they do that well because it's like it's it's like calcified so really so you use it like a golf ball on the chest nah not like that only when i want to for party tricks like this um but yeah so where was oh yeah so i wanted to start fighting and then once i started getting my ear all ████ up my mom was like mortified like there was times where i would like
9:12 talk to her and she'd look at me in the eye and then slowly just look at my ear like mid conversation and then just be like but it's like the opposite i do it's like whoa she looks at it that way she really has to get that figured out but she it's a problem actually what was she what did you say she said but she would like look at it and be like you know i gave birth to you and you had normal ears and now you're all ████ up like she would say that ████ to me that's actually crazy but but if you knew my mom it'd be like oh that's just normal mom like my mom ████ but did that actually i mean because maybe she's trying to reach out to you i've never actually gotten to talk to you about this but did that actually bother you when that started to happen to your ears no no no at first i was like it was just part of it because in the culture in the mma culture it's it's seen as like a a badge of honor like it is something really cool right but at the time which
10:02 was hard for me was when i first started training i had these really sick ass ears but i still sucked so i got it really early so everyone's like oh you must be a black belt and i was like no i just got ████ up yeah yeah it was it was purely just me getting my ass kicked all the time and then my ear got all ████ up that's still something though thanks man you have to get your ass kicked if you want to get better i don't know if you know this but i'm really good at getting knocked out yeah he's the guy i'm the guy he's a knockout artist of being knocked out you learn how to get up more yeah sometimes i just lay there i don't really get up that much but no uh so when i would start fighting and stuff and i would i had a lot of fun doing it and it was great but i remember the first time i had my first like mma fight i was like cutting weight in my bathroom and it was like i had to use the bathtub and what does that mean so cutting weight is
10:52 i would have to weigh in at say at the time i'd walk around maybe like 145 150 pounds but i had to fight at 135 pounds yeah oh no i'm aware of that but why are you putting weight in a bathtub well because what i would do is you would epsom salt bath yeah just jerk off some salt bath and get really really hot sweat sweat sweat and then you would lay on the floor put a bunch of towels on you and then you would just sweat like like a cocoon and i remember i was doing that in my parents bathroom because they had a bathtub and my dad just didn't really know that i was like gonna do any of this stuff like he was just kind of like oh you train whatever he just thought i was like doing this for fitness and then he wakes up in the middle of the night and sees me in a ████ he sees a sun and a cocoon of towels on the ████ floor and i'm like i'm on death's door because it sucks cutting weight is awful you feel terrible and then i wasn't expecting him to give me this reaction and this is the night
11:42 before the fight i was gonna fight the next day and uh and it was like a big moment for me at least in my head and he just was like pissed he was like yo what the ████ are you doing my dad usually doesn't react to most things but he was like what are you doing why the ████ are you even doing this did you know what you were doing well i told him he was like i was cocooning and i was like i have a fight tomorrow and he goes what the ████ why are you even doing this stop fighting you don't need to be doing this ████ like he was like matt just tell him you don't want no trouble yeah don't watch trouble and beat them up with your jacket so like that was kind of a weird head trip like going into that fight that next day and being like oh dude ████ nobody wants me to do this ████ but it wasn't let me envision your father you whip that guy's ass and i actually won that was i actually oh nice but at the same time you got knocked down and you won but just qualifications he used a legal strike he gave me the steel chair and triple h
12:33 came from the ████ entrance they got double-teamed dude yeah but it was like a laborious three-count yeah but yeah like and that was pretty much it but as far as my career now and going into coaching they're actually relieved that i just wanted to do more of that so they're more afraid of your health and injury because because when i got started getting more like i got a couple of head injuries back to back like later on in my career and they were really ████ not okay with it like it was actually quite emotional bro like i remember having that concussion i was freaking the ████ out my family they were freaking out they were worried like
13:23 you're gonna be this kid's gonna be a ████ vegetable you know because i was having like concussion syndrome stuff and it was weird because like i remember like laying there like kind of crying and ████ because i was like this is all i wanted to do but i don't think i could handle these types of injuries like i'm just not well equipped for this and i remember my girl was there she saw me really emotional and now it was just me talking to my girl about it like yo this is ████ up like i don't know what the ████ i'm gonna do because i at that time i already spent so much time and effort in the sport and i still didn't have like a crazy amateur career either but it was just like it was just emotional for me because i was like this is who i thought i was and having to get away from that identity was a weird thing but i think i really found what i actually really wanted to which is coaching because i feel like you're pretty good i mean i used to train with you all the time and it was really fun like it felt it didn't even feel like i was like i had a coach it was just like
14:14 oh let's go hang out with nick and he's going to tell me how to get buff and ████ yeah so i'm thankful that i went through all that stuff because it was it was experience that i will never you know like competing is one thing like that's a whole different mindset and i think for me at the time i wasn't ready for that so yeah it was good but yeah i mean like you like i've never seen david lose weight before but with nick he not only lost weight but he also learned how to fight it's crazy and everyone says dave's good now he's good man it was pretty good but think about david though i wish i could take all the credit but david he's one of those guys that's like you could make him do anything once he has he sets his mind to it he's gonna ████ go just take all the credit dude it's david because of you though i heard he's non-stop getting knocked out now thanks to you no he stopped training with me now he's fine what does your parents do my my mom
15:04 doesn't work but my dad was a sound editor so he also he already had like a non-traditional job yeah he kind of and dude his his story is crazy like that dude he immigrated here when he was like six or something like no like seven from taiwan and they lived in san francisco and then he left there came to la started work in the mail room at dreamworks and then got a sound editing gig from there so he was like one of those dudes that kind of just like found his way in and he actually worked on crazy movies like he did a bunch of indiana jones movies he did 48 hours like like just all over the place and he worked for like sony also he was already working in an entertainment yeah like that that was that was his thing and he used to always tell me like you should get entertainment i was like what the ████ am i here that's like the most opposite asian dad story i've ever heard like he's telling you to do entertainment yeah he's like you should do that like he wanted me to do like kid
15:54 acting and i was like no kid acting oh what the ████ am i gonna do wait so how do they feel how do your parents feel now that they know that you're they don't do kid acting right now i don't i don't tell them ████ acting on jk news i just tell them i'm like yeah i just do this like podcast thing i just kind of keep it real ████ brief you know but but but they're just like not proud of us i get it i get it i'm like don't watch this ████ show does your dad critique the sound editing but you know i don't think my dad actually knows that i do this because he actually just recently came back from taiwan he's been in taiwan since the pandemic so i actually i haven't seen him i was supposed to go see him this weekend find out he's in vegas i don't know what the ████ you haven't seen your father maybe i saw him at sapphire
16:44 we're playing we're playing phone tag you know what i mean but he he dipped out there because of the panda i think he he had a stroke before the pandemic and he had kind of like weird mobility's legs holy crap did he recover from it he did jesus christ it's a ████ huge thing he uh he he went to taiwan because he doesn't believe in like western medicine you know what i mean but he's the most americanized asian dude ever but he'd rather do ginseng yeah low-key so he's a hollywood white girl hollister he kind of well it's also probably maybe uh uh western uh prices yeah oh true because they get free health care out there right but he's also the most stubborn man i've ever met mother well i mean most dads are pretty stubborn you know i mean so it's like i tell him like hey you should probably do physical therapy and he's like yeah that s███'s a racket ████ like different he knows the word racket my dad actually ████ hates um what are they called with like a
17:34 chiropractor he ████ hates those guys because his back cracks and he's like a lot of them are ████ charlatans dudes yeah a lot of them just put out ████ it's crazy but there's some really good chiropractors but i like it when my balls are adjusted and then my back feels better what the ████ have you ever had your ears cracked like it feels good it's ████ crazy i like all the cracking stuff because it feels good but yeah i don't ████ know it but even the chiropractor is like i do this ████ for show like i just get people to feel good i pop out pop but like all the stuff that actually hurts like the soft tissue and the heart like the the grass the ████ bleeding like that's just the real stuff but yeah one acupressure or acupuncture session is like 10 chiropractor sessions for me really yeah i could push it legit hey what do you guys what do you guys parents think about like especially for the dancer boys here we have a lot of them in the room all four of us you know the you're when your dad's kind of like a macho dude and ████ and like you don't you
18:24 know the idea of dance especially where i grew up it was kind of like seen as like for chicks especially in that generation too yeah for sure because you guys made that ████ cool yeah exactly do you guys did you guys get any help from like the males in your life like coming out i didn't because the ████ i was practicing didn't even look like i was dancing looked like i was just practicing stunts so my dad was ryan's ryan styles suicidal style that's what my sacrificial stuff my dad was always was kind of like your dad was like what the ████ are you doing that yeah you're gonna ████ hurt yourself didn't understand like why i would possibly to like it didn't even an equate to dance but then also i kept it a secret for so long uh because you know in seventh day adventist religion you're not allowed to dance what whoa so her religion was like so it worked for me that what i was doing looked like acro so uh they never caught on until like you know they thought it was
19:15 acrobatics because breakdancing so you started doing choreo well i also tried to not make it look as serious when i was at home you know i felt like the ████ the story of the capoeira origin where it's like you try to hide your self-defense so then like it just looked like i was ████ around all the time and then when i would go to school i would like go to the gym like really early and then i would i would just break in there and like really try super hard so you never told them i want to be a dancer no i never told them i never told them at all that i wanted to be a dancer until i was on ████ tv see that's how you do it asian kids lie to your parents don't ████ tell them your dreams do it secretly and then boom you're on tv turn on channel five right now don't invite your parents to your tournaments or any competitions i remember the first judicial tournament i did and i didn't prepare for it at all i went there i won a couple matches and my parents came and
20:05 they missed those matches my parents came my sister came the final match i get my arm like popped in front of all of them so they're already thinking like this kid's ████ that's gonna be so tough getting knocked yeah get his arm and i'm like i had to drive home in the miata and my arms all ████ up covered in ice and it was stick so i'm like yeah it's terrible dude it's ████ weird yeah that's bad yeah so i got away with a lot because it didn't really uh occur to them at all and they didn't say nothing yeah and then i and even if i was doing like dance stuff at school it just looked like anything like just like a side thing you're doing like i tried to make it look as not serious as possible but in your heart were you like i'm pursuing that 100 and then and then uh and then when i was on so you think you could dance this you can't ████ hide anymore so everyone from my church knew
20:55 my old school knew and then uh yeah my parents were pretty pissed really yeah really they're like you brought shame to our christmas that looks pretty crappy to be like i think it also sucks parentally like regardless of how you feel about dance it sucks parentally for all these other people like because both my parents work in hospitals and then for all these other filipino like uh nurses they know to go we saw your son he's so good and they're just like you what like it makes them look dumb and like bad parents and then like and they're not involved yeah blindsided that's why they're gonna do what my mom did you know just be like oh yeah yeah i knew this and then for production like for for so you think when i when i so i was on sony dance season one and they loved the um and i didn't i thought it was um audition for dance 360. i didn't know because it didn't have a name yet it was so new so then uh we did they did a bunch of home
21:46 story stuff and they were like tell us like about your background everything i didn't know any better i just said all the true stuff and i was like oh yeah you know this is that my parents they're like and it they couldn't even it couldn't even uh they couldn't even comprehend why my parents would be that unsupportive of it but to me that s███'s normal you know yeah back then i feel like the asian typical ████ story that we've all heard so much about my parents don't approve like that was that was normal they didn't know it at the time now it's like don't even bother saying it what about dance it's kind of funny because it's like footloose villains [Laughter] it really is it's kind of like dumb they try to make that stuff so dramatic sometimes they put all that ████ on tv about my parents not wanting me to do it and my parents were pretty sad about that yeah and i think it's like you didn't give us a chance to even accept it well i think they were sad my mom i
22:36 remember my mom saying like hey can you just not say that anymore but even though it was true still like they were still like hey you're gonna go back to school after the show is done right and this was like the start of my solo career when right afterwards i was doing a bunch of like cool stuff i was traveling teaching um all by myself and then i think the guilt like got to me i was like ████ man i should go back to school so then i actually went back to school and then i went uh back to cypress college to finish some more prereqs because my my big thing was like i always wanted to go to like a proper university but i didn't do well enough in high school so then i went back to cypress college tons of people would go what the ████ are you doing here because that that like i guess surge of like fame hadn't died down yet so i was really embarrassed i was like dude i'm ████ going it looked like i failed yeah but then i was like ████ i just kept saying i'm doing it for my parents ████ ████ ████ like just just don't let it get to you but
23:27 what happened after that and then i i did i did really well i got i got a full ride to uci and then i went to university of uh california irvine my parents were super proud they put the ████ uci pennant on the wall like they were like this is finally like our dream for you thank you so much that's crazy and then uh one quarter left till graduation i left to do abd amazing how do you feel about that they were pissed all over again you are the ████ most interesting man that's so awesome they were disappointed all over again because they were like you got a humps up and i didn't have to pay a dime for uci like it was all like that's great so why don't you just send them a ████ screenshot of your celebrity network 19 million then they're gonna ask for some of it yeah but you lived like a way crazier like because you didn't go to school or because you didn't finish yeah but it's
24:17 you know like the thing that i and i completely don't fault them for it it's like as a parent you want for your kids what you understand to be the best possible thing and it's like they did that formula and i 100 understand why it worked yeah yeah yeah and it completely did and honestly it would work for me too and they want the best but i just can't live with making that choice but what i like about this generation is we broke that perspective of all the asian parents because now and now we have so much more competition can why the ████ do they want to pursue this it's a terrible idea yeah i think uh i that's why like you know like it it also annoys me when i see other like asian dancers like be like i can't believe my parents don't support me or they're like that's their home story i'm like dude you and ████ millions of other ages yeah
25:09 because you see the other kids being supported by their whole families they're there they have cards for them they're like clapping for them and when you see that you're kind of envious it's like what the ████ you know it's like you think of like like my in my mind i always imagine like these white little league boys that their parents are there and they're so passionate about the game but then i'm a ████ like i'm eight 22 and then my parents can't really do the same you know like dude even then the parents were there and they're like kill them ████ kill him who gives a ████ get the ball to third who gives a ████ but that's about white i think that's why it's i think it's an asset i think everybody in that same position that i was in which there's a ████ s███████ of them that's your biggest asset i think that you don't need to have that you know like it's well the converse is pretty wild like your parents are too interested and then you're in pageants
25:59 and you're like ████ hate my life yeah i just want to die it's not even your dream mom's like hey big let's get a big one cause that's so weird that's even more that's way ████ worse dude isis coach's kid he was like we saw him since he was five to like 12 and every day his dad wanted to be a fighter so ████ bad but this kid hated every single day of practice he was really talented sucks but guarantee you i think he stopped fighting now because he's he's just so burnt out made him hate it yeah exactly once he kissed a girl that was it dude that's the trick to good parenting just force them to do what you know they're not gonna like so they can do what you actually want them to do be a doctor yeah reverse psychology like hey come on why aren't you dancing ken junior come on 1678 and then he ████ hates it so much he becomes the doctor i'm like yes
26:49 no yeah i feel like that'll happen what i liked the most about this conversation is bart wasn't here to stand up as soon as ryan started talking and cut the camera it was too good great start great story feel the feels you
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