0:00 I guess it's our turn huh finally I know um it's called overcooked overcooked too oh that's the game oh is that the game yeah you told me that you'd love that game by the way I do and I think that's what inspired me to open up a joombie and do it in real life right yeah yeah wait is it over time it's overcooked it's no it's this gate no the no the show no relieves overcooked can't say it over JK overcooked let's go it's the Joe and Steve episode hell yeah bro hey it's great to see you I know always great to see you yeah it's always a treat yeah we live in Las Vegas but I never seen him because he's always in Hawaii like I feel like I got jipped I feel like I like every time I'm there because I'm there like every other month right yeah I'm literally there to just do yard work clean the house up reset and then I'm out like a couple
0:51 days after but at least you have people staying at your house yeah yeah yeah yeah because that's the thing too because you know like but they don't do any yard work so many people are moving to Vegas yeah it just works out so well yeah yeah well now's the time where you shouldn't move to Vegas this is like we're we're here June 1st don't move to Vegas it's hot you're gonna hate yourself for moving there but I'm telling you the rest of the year it really is the ████ place yeah I think so I just wish that I could clone myself so I could enjoy the winter fall spring Vegas not the summer though no not the summer although the strip is kind of cool during the summer it is because it's so cracking if you like that energy like the people watching is hilarious oh dude it's the best no it is the best place for people watching on the Earth I mean if I had the time I think I would
1:42 just sit down there and just watch people and probably document like you know you ever see somebody like like a person where you're like where the ████ does that person go yeah I would love to just take a camera and actually follow that person for like a whole day and just see what the hell they do it's like real life 90 Day Fiance exactly exactly because I see a guy with like a shopping cart and it's it's a it's not it's not just a shopping cart where you think the way that you're thinking because you're a judgy person he's got a business and he's got like a bunch of like stuffed butterflies in there or whatever like they look like they go in the claw machines and he's like walking around like basically dressed like an elf and I'm like where does this guy go at night and like what is his name and like who is you know who is he selling this stuff yeah he's selling the stuff out of a shopping cart I saw this when I was at the I was like
2:33 hanging out by the Tropicana I want to know how many he's actually selling that's what I'm saying right like does he clear out at the end of the day is he like look if he does he go to Shark Tank and he's like Mark I need I have so many orders I can't fill them but it must it must work yeah like for them to do it out there right yeah because some of these Street Hawkers like they've been there since I was a child like the guys with the Flyers giving out like yeah the clicker guys yeah yeah they've been there since I was a kid for sure so I'm like some of these things are like proven and tested 100 and by the way this is kind of like a you know I haven't seen this guy in a while so this is how we catch up with each other but you know you guys are here to listen to like why you know how we how we met I think is the first thing that that's what the format is per Rye anime I hear you bro we're back on topic
3:25 you know what's unfair yeah is they got to free they they got to free roll I know but then for us we had to have a format well you're the boss you do whatever you want I know right much you've always been like that I always I always hated that about you you know why is because I basically hire people so that I don't have to run anything yeah I've noticed that a little bit but you you actually know what's you know what's the best thing about you and the worst thing about bart is what is that you are a you're a person who wants to hire people so that they can do like their work right and Bart wants to micromanage them out of existence and into quitting and I say that as a brother I love Bart it's so funny but this is a fact that's why he's laughing that is a fact Bart just wants to hire a puppet that he can
4:15 move the strings on Bart wants to extendo cloth that's his employees it's just the extendo claw to be a clone of who he is that's it he's like oh if only I like technology can clone me yeah that's it because if barbell could be like 50 Barts oh my God it would be perfect to be misery for well for everyone who wasn't a Bart right no but that that is I think that is a good quality of leadership when you can like stand aside yeah and let people do what you trusted them to do while you hired them right Bart's really good because he's so particular and he knows exactly what he wants yeah so he's a genius I think this is why we were able to balance out so well because I could give a ████ about so many things oh yeah that like
5:06 I need someone like Bart who does care so much about so many things right he cares about things that he he's like the guy who don't cut the pillow tag off don't cut the tag off the mattress right he because he read about it you can't do it it's illegal in life four states yeah and I think we're in one of them like it's like that but no I know exactly what you mean yeah it is fascinating to see how you guys operate but it is you guys created a great symbiosis of like how you guys both operate businesses couldn't have done it I mean how long have you guys been in business together it's insane nobody likes Islam I think this is our 16th year it's insane bro yeah it's insane it's it's been pretty wild it's kind of weird because um I've never approached this like a business yeah like the way that I work jumbi the way that I've built other Concepts or whatever it's been com I have a different hat on
5:57 and it's probably because I don't have BART to lean on so then I know what's not there so then I have to take on the role of like you know some of the areas that I probably wouldn't want to take on yeah you're one of the most unique people I've ever met and I and I actually mean that like like in the best way like I really don't think I have a bad thing to say about you oh thanks bro no likewise I I really mean it like I think you're one of the best dudes I've ever met like I actually like in a weird way look up to you even because you're just such a kind person like I like like I've said before and then like it happened um in real life I don't know how much I can say it but but like I I was just saying at one time like we're doing a JK episode we were kind of going deep on something and I was like dude Joe owes the Jake it was the one about you for 20 minutes it was like oh when I wasn't
6:47 here setting up like what do we ask Joe for 20 minutes right and then I was like and it was like Hey like Joe um I was like Joe would take the shirt off his ████ back if you're like I like your shirt and and like we had a friend who had their car stolen and Joe just gives her his car like that that's the most Joe thing ever he like literally did it it's like not something I'm saying that he wanted to do and she said no he actually did yeah and like that's you know it was like it was like how I am with crypto I find a gem and then I'm like see it's working out when I saw you do that I was like see I'm ████ bank shot in this ████ yeah I think we're very similar in the in the way where it's like we it's like it's not fun to be the only one winning right and also if you have a friend that probably it's and it's easy for you to help them out like for you it's so easy
7:38 to just tell us all the information that you learned right it doesn't take that much Sacrifice from you to do that but it would mean the world to someone who doesn't have the time to study crypto or whatever and I had a hell of a ride with you doing that right right of Lifetime and I and I feel like which one oh so many but I feel like that's basically the same way that I think but I expressed it differently or like I give differently um and and I I also I also believe that like you gotta protect your group yes like so if people are in trouble like you don't send thoughts and prayers to your group right you have to actually do something and so um I mean that's just how you should operate you know it's just it's just the way the world should work or else it's like why be a friend or why dude loyalty
8:29 is everything yeah like 100 and that you know a lot of people say that but like it really is it really is so important to show it right like I think you do that like basically all day long yeah um but nope again Joe's not the person who will bring it up so I'm gonna do it thanks man no bro I really really always have appreciated you I think that you know JK is such a special place I always try to say that as as long as I've been here and I've been here for a while I guess okay I think yeah almost eight years really has it been damned it feels so fast insane yeah I feel like like it's like birds of a feather right like when we first met oh we're gonna go hit that topic right um it was I was at uh Tim's roast yes and then Nikki's already been a guest because I think Taryn uh uh Taryn Southern Southern yeah yeah yeah she introduced us because she was like oh
9:19 Nikki's so funny yeah you know and she did great she's such a nice ass probably she said that too yeah she's like she's she was she naturally just fit in Nikki was great she worked out really well with us and we had her for a while and she would mention you from time to time she goes yeah yeah my um I don't know if you were her boyfriend or her husband yeah yeah and then she would say like oh he has a YouTube channel too and then um it was like in passing so we never really paid any attention to that but then when we saw you at the roast and then she introduced us and you are hilarious like you had us dying in tears bro like it was so good and then I also um it clicked that I seen your content before the Bangbus stuff yes sir I thought that was so freaking hilarious
10:09 you would tell all these guys like yeah you want to ████ porn stars and then the girls would be sitting next to them and they're like oh my God and then they would switch positions and these guys would come in and that was like one of my funniest I I would like die like you know what laughing you know what Bonnie Rotten told me she's a porn star yeah she was like what's great about this is that they always do think that they're gonna get to ████ us like like even just socially right like they just meet us and like out and about and they like put their hand on her ass in a photo and all that stuff and she was like I really like how like this is like basically like a ████ you to that and I was like oh you get it like that's really cool so it's like you flip it on them yeah and and I and I yeah so I remember like I didn't subscribe to your channel but your videos would pop up like they're so viral I was just so far yeah and then so
11:01 like throughout the years I would see it and then I made the connection and I was like oh ████ you're that guy right yeah and I was like why didn't we ever invite you and then the first day you came by I think it was like immediately we clicked 100 dude and it was never a good experience before yeah honestly and I've been I did YouTube with like dogs with cassim and this group called the station and she had Carl and all these people and yeah I had hyper-clicked with them as well but then with you guys it was like doing cocaine and then clicking it was like we've known each other it was that kind of clicking comfortable so like we have some more values we see the world the same way we have more of a cynical take but we prefer joy and we all got into entertainment to actually craft something yes rather than to be famous or anything like that never had an interest in Fame really just wanted to say something and I think that's what kind of separated us from a lot of other YouTubers because most YouTubers are
11:53 literally there for attention Fame and because they're lonely they don't even know what they want to say exactly it's the weirdest thing yeah but they find a way to grab attention and then I mean that's their thing right but for us I wanted to create something and then you had that writing background you had Talent you you wrote movies and then so I think like I think my average IMDb score is like 5.8 what does that mean it's really good what's what's that out of ten yeah it's really good that's above average to a kid who went to school and like barely got through that's pretty ████ great but I think that's where our deep respect came from is like you were an actual like Master at your craft that we loved which is comedy and at the time it was like dope because it was almost like we got to draft you know LeBron on our team oh but dude I I don't agree with
12:43 that but I really appreciate that but no I I mean honestly you guys I I like I said I look up to you personally um and I look up to what you guys built here like more than anything as well like it's I've always said this about the room I say like I wish that more people knew how important it is like what you guys built here and like how people can still say whatever they want and maybe it's because you guys just figured out how to like find a certain group of people who are just gonna ride with you no matter the ████ what our fans are like third eye hardcore yeah I sat next to one on the plane today yeah my name's Aaliyah yeah and she was like you better shout me out and I was like I'll shout you out but she was like I ████ love you guys love JK and the but the best thing is that you like she's like 23 years old yeah like how the ████ did we we get Alia she was like
13:33 what 11 when she started watching dude yeah like we raised a lot of people is what I'm realizing yeah you know there's people that are like you put me through college adulthood whatever now I'm a 50 year old man yeah so legit that's good when the time it does it does feel like that dude it does it does but no but but so like you know it's but it's it's captivating to see like what you guys created and then for some reason Maybe YouTube just hates you guys enough or they don't pay attention yeah they don't pay attention they don't know what we're saying here right and they're and like because I've seen people get their channels taken down for Less right than what we ████ do on the weekly I know and it's probably one of the beauties of like being so niche but not too freaking
14:23 popular right so then like if we were too too big then like mainstream big then it's dangerous yeah or like if you have too many uh sponsors that are like that own you basically yes because the the when the bigger your company is the more you have on the line the more you know people you need to like make sure their jobs are safe like there's just more things that make you go um I guess mainstream and safe yeah and I ████ hated that you know it's one of the it's one of the worst things about Commerce and just like advertising because we all need it yeah right obviously the ads are great like we do it off the Record and it's brought to you by right so we need it it's great it helps but then it does suck to have a corporate Overlord but thankfully for some reason like I said I know it's not like two gods are blessing it's like you got hymns who are like hey you better ████ be chill about this topic
15:16 you know when we're laughing about like yeah or like when we're laughing about like some guy who got mangled in a ████ car accident and hins is like hey you better be careful that guy has a Rossini hairline I know right well we're trying to like sell lawn care service and then like right after the ad read Bart Is straddling Anthony and like humping them from the back you know he's mock ████ his face oh and that by the way actually happened on our show many many times so but we've had so many years of just like memories and laughs here dude this room the amount of last is bounced off these walls is insane it's pretty the energies I think there's definitely some residual laughter here from all those years what do you think changed like because I gotta I've been here for a long time yeah I for a while I think that you were
16:07 kind of you know maybe checked out as the word yeah you were focusing on yourself which I think is really important and I don't denigrate you for that I think it's really really a crucial thing but what brought you back like made you feel like you're kind of you know alive again here yeah man I think um when you do something routinely for too many years and then at one point I felt like I was losing control of JK like Bart 2 right well Bart was more so he was really spread thin yeah like he just had taika and then he was moving and then just you know Bart was like I'm only here to film and then I can't really do anything else Nick Nick was always yeah Nick with his clients right yeah and then for me I
16:57 think um I can't pinpoint what exactly it was but I don't think anything in my life felt like was working out correctly so there was a time when I felt like everything I set my mind to I was achieving and I actually had a goal but then for the first time it felt like I was aimlessly like going through motions and routines but like nothing was working out and there were nothing but problems that I couldn't fix it was like a sinking ship that I kept throwing water out but I couldn't stop right and there was a lot of um that going on so I think that took a toll on me personally just from observing too there's a lot of strange like internal angst right like a weird feeling of like well they used to do it
17:48 this way and now they don't yeah and like ████ them and I'm like do you guys realize what you get to do for a living right here yeah like do you realize that it was very odd and I'm not really throwing anybody under the bus I just don't think that they they knew like how this stuff works yet yeah I think there was a you know like over the years I think like I was learning how to be a boss and so like communicating to the team certain things some people had different desires and wishes and maybe for them too they didn't have the courage to just go out and pursue their own thing and maybe they felt like as a friend they had to stick around um because that's how we've been doing it for so long and we never had that discussion right so I think like after I started to deal with it
18:39 individually like let's say former employees or whatever right um as those things were being dealt with I started to feel better and more relieved because the Clutter was being cleaned up you know which is a ████ up thing when it comes to people not just people no you're I know what you're saying no the Clutter of the Mind exactly the mindset yeah yeah yeah I'm having Joe's back yeah yeah because because no the mindset was so weird around here for like a little while and it was very like it was just like I just remember being confused like I'm always I try to be empathetic I really try to understand where people are coming from I really do but then sometimes I'm like dude at the end of the day though this is crazy I didn't get to do this dude and I give a whole month off but I pay them for a full 12. bro and then we do paid company
19:29 vacations all in all the time and if you want to bring your significant other we pay for them too how many times we go out to eat and like Bart and Joe pick up the tab exactly and then so for me like the every time links and things that I was hearing sometimes I'm just like where's this coming from but also it wasn't just um internal like things that were bothering me about the company um it was also the fan base so there is like you said the Die Hard group that absolutely love us right yeah we raised them since they were 10 and a half years old yeah we were saying bad words and being racist exactly and they're like thank you I'm 47 now and I'm a doctor you inspired me yeah dressing like a
20:21 mother and talking ████ yeah thank you for denigrating the human race by like a half a percentage point yeah um I think it was also yeah like we were pandering at one point because I remember we did I remember I got so dude I want everybody to feel like welcomed me too bro right so I thought it would be good on the panel to have different voices obviously and I'm not saying that's wrong but the different voices have to be intelligent and be able to debate it and be able to make sense right it's it's not just someone who's being disagreeable but they're also butchering their position and then also at the end of the day it has to be comedy so then if there's no comedy someone there just wants to kind of refute your points or maybe shut it down
21:11 completely there's no debate there's no discussion and it ends up becoming like this like train wreck of a talk and then I'm just like but hey there's a lot of nodding I know there's one person talking in a lot of nodding in the room a lot of people going oh okay well and then looking at the clock like Anthony Lee style you know how Anthony does that ████ and he looks at the clock he's trying to run away yeah yeah yeah but no they're like looking at the clock like all right yeah I'm just gonna nod for the next like ████ six minutes and I remember everyone was paranoid even in the whole comedy space about cancel culture during lockdown so then we started becoming super careful boys you know because we were just like oh ████ we can't be the person that we were before and then it was weird too because the fans that loved us for the same jokes that we pulled just a year ago they started to Virtue signal and they
22:02 would just be like Oh I'm mature now I don't like these jokes anymore and I'm like oh ████ you then what did you like last week I know it was fine when you're laughing at Us and other cultures but then when it became about you or something you know now you're yeah you're fragile about it what are you talking about I know dude like would you like 10 days ago like compared to not no but that didn't happen to a lot of people and honestly we kind of were trying to I think we overread the room probably probably right and we overreacted probably but bro the circumstances of the time were so weird that like I don't it's hard to just say well I blame us for that it's just it's one of those things all comedians dude like big big names powerful everybody everybody even like YouTubers like Jenna Marbles quit because she's not back yet I know and I was like the hate was so
22:54 strong she was at my wedding I love Jenna Marbles yeah she's awesome and I'm like the hay was so strong that basically she was just like I want any I don't have to even do this anymore ████ this but that's where I didn't want to I I knew that there's no point in making the the Mad crowd happy like I still have at least 50 percent of people out there who love us yes and why are we not talking to them why are we attending to the other people who are like frustrated at us what do you think that comes from for you personally like like is there a need to respond to the criticism like to defend yourself is that why you want to lash out and do that what do you mean the uh oh when when you know I think all of us have had moments where we overreact to criticism yeah where do you think it comes from for you
23:46 oh I don't like how it was damaging the group because like so for example the girls of the group were very affected by the negative comments and stuff like that right extremely so and for me I was really frustrated because I wanted to just focus on the fans that love us because there's always going to be hate and at the same time sometimes um them just talking about us is a is good marketing but then so good some of the members that were in our group didn't even want to become social media Stars so they're not gonna you know take it as like the same way as someone who's prepared to be an Entertainer can take it like you might like I saw that as opportunity as like oh controversy and it's fun because I don't know these
24:36 people and you know they have an opinion fine but it keeps us kind of relevant and then we can play with that and then I think it's really to me there's there's no personal attachment to it basically but like what I didn't like to see were my friends being so depressed and upset from the actions of these horrible people saying these ████ up things right so then I tone down my behavior because I didn't want to attract attention negative attention or even put them in the position that can get residual cancel because I did something right you know like that was happened in the Geo where Bart would do something and then they would start bombing Geo's DM saying how dare you allow your husband to do this and that and then she was just getting stressed out right yeah so I was like this is why I believe like having
25:28 careful with boys I feel so much more like chill because like we don't have to worry about that layer of like everybody in that room has has each other's back right everybody yeah and it wasn't always like that here and that was kind of the problem because I also felt like hey I have your back but then they were so worried about the commenters that they turned on us because they didn't want they wanted to separate themselves from us right like oh I'm not like that you know I'm not racist like them or whatever the ████ I'm like what they would say that ████ in the room I know bro I was like wait what the ████ yeah wait what the ████ I like last week again 10 days ago didn't hear you talk like that now yeah yeah and so like now you're joining this mob that because you're so afraid of them saying
26:19 hurtful things to you not that you actually believe it because when the cameras are off you make the jokes we know what you said right and then so those are the kind of things that were really like pissing me off because I was seeing the true colors of certain members um and I was like I'm gonna name them name them all but I was like I'm doing all this work to protect and I'm doing all this stuff to hold myself back so we don't you know whatever but then like at you know but I don't know it was just it was just a weird time right I don't know what your perspective was during that same as you it was very frustrating it was very weird and it wasn't like it's not like I have the tablet with the truth and I'm trying to show it to everybody it was very like murky right everyone's just trying to figure out what the ████ going on anyway I think now we're able to talk about it in retrospect exactly because we dissected
27:10 it but in the moment I didn't know that's what was happening like I didn't know they were the culprit or or the audience was the culprit I I was just in there like you know what something about this isn't enjoyable anymore exactly and I always you know I always like I said I try to root for people's takes and their opinions and it doesn't matter if I agree with them or not I just want to understand where they're coming from and I think that's what helps me be like emotionally um intelligent when when I'm talking to people yeah but with this it was very much like okay I have your back I can I can see myself having your back but then I like having an out-of-body experience I'm like you don't have r though yeah we're not saying the right things you don't have our back no and that's when I'm like these four these I guess 17 walls however the room is shaped so weird um you know they're not we're not shielded here now yeah it is different now yeah it's much different than when I
28:01 came in and we hit it off and like we had that ████ like oh don't worry we're in a comedy Rider's room and we can say whatever the ████ we want now all of a sudden it's like no there's there's peephos in here and like people are being self-aware and they want to make sure that everyone who's watching sees that they're being self-aware and good and doing the right thing and that's what pissed me off yep and I'll give you guys a little hint too because um there were moments where certain people panel uh also had control of the back end um whether it was the topic or editing style or whatever and it wasn't just one person it was it was it was a couple yes and it was also during a time uh during covid right yes there's six seats here it was really hard to fill those seats um there's been even episodes where I sat next to a mannequin to cover so we
28:52 can keep the ones where I got I had to go to the hospital yeah and then you were you were saying you you gotta I had a I had a weird like heart palpitation thing yeah yeah runs my family apparently but yeah that was crazy we thought you were like gonna Croak on us well Timmy D thought I was about to die covet but I was like I don't this is not covered symptoms guys my heart is just going insane yeah but yeah but yeah it was it was things like that where it was like later when the video goes up we're like that wait a minute that was edited to make that person look so good and I was like by the editor perhaps yeah and I was like how the ████ did this happen yeah and it was one of those things where like I remember I kind of just contextualize this yeah yeah I remember being like Joe do you see what they just
29:42 did to you in this video yeah and you were like No And I was like dude you need to watch it dude I'm like this person gets to ████ take shots at you and you're you're doing your thing reading the room doing what you do right and then this person can stick shots to you and edit it so that they're even more accentuated right so they look more they look correct way more correct because for me like we're playing a game here right the the ultimate yeah we do get serious and we do talk about politics and all these things but the ultimate goal is fun yeah it's fun let's let's construct a joke together or like let's have a good conversation but the way that this was edited was like really a slam dunk and then when you read all the comments it would just it would just be like oh wow look look
30:34 he put him in his place and I'm all like okay so it's a competition yeah so I'm like that sucks because you know I'm over here if he's if he's Bank shotting all these things right you don't need to zoom in on Jordan Duncan you just need to show the court exactly but the emphasis the emphasis is that's why you're you're putting the thumb on the scale and that was just a cop out right it's a cop-out and it's insecurity yeah and then it's okay and then I that's what I say I really do try to understand people it's obviously there's some kind of weird insecurity going on and so this person's trying to emphasize their points and they're using editing techniques to do it and it's like this just like you're not having JK's back though right and that's what doesn't sit well with me because as an improviser and like dude that is one of the lamest things you could ever say don't worry I know I know that that is but one of the core things is trust yeah and in any relationship it's trust and so when we're all gonna take shots and step out
31:26 on the limbs and sometimes we go for that big joke and it doesn't land and we ████ spin around on home plate instead of hitting the ball um shouldn't we try to have each other's backs no because we're on a team we're in New Jersey 100 but I realized that so the difference here is we're improv troop this guy thought he was a part of the debate team yeah so the difference is like some so so that's that's when things went South is that something that's not just one person no like as an example I'm talking about when things didn't go well when I felt like I was losing control of the company in general like things like that like I'm the owner of the company right and then they're going to construct a video that basically sacrifices completely my
32:16 Integrity my Kalima on you right yeah it's like okay I mean you whatever if that's what makes you feel good you know I don't to me it's not a big deal that's why I didn't you know react to it in that way but I just thought okay a person that's willing to do that means one they don't respect me correct right and then so that was more disappointing than anything because it was like you know I let people talk ████ all the time because it's funny you know what I mean and you're really good at that and I read the comments all they're like how how can Joe let them do this so oblivious I know and I'm like Ugh yeah they don't know if the joke is good and if it's true why not right I don't know but I also think that shows more strength when you don't get your panties in a bunch exactly dude God damn if the people who don't take things too seriously yeah are always my favorite
33:07 people and why should you from people that you feel safe with exactly like that doesn't make any sense and that's the Integrity of the writer's room of Jake and that's what I always loved about this room and that's what I would say the the room has to be protected no matter what it has to be and and it wasn't and that's where I think things started to really make me feel horrible because I was like whoa I thought you know we were all on the same page exactly doing the same thing common goal but some some people had personal agendas they wanted to be the star they wanted their whatever five seconds of fame or whatever and I realized that some members would um use this as an opportunity to build because what one thing that I wanted to do was um you know as we all grow together I wanted to put everybody in front of the camera right so like certain members
33:58 were able to build their own following because I thought that that would be a great way where hey if you build your own following whether it's in editing writing whatever you do you're going to inspire so many people and honestly bro I think it's one of the biggest things I've learned from you personally is that I always took I think maybe too seriously like the idea of like well like this person's trained I remember saying that to Nikki a million and a half times they're trained they're comedically trained blah blah blah train train train yeah and you will take people who aren't quote unquote trained and but you put them in this great environment that you've built and you know how to extract like the best from them because it you know it takes time and I've seen people flourish from that like who wouldn't traditionally even have that shot and I just think that that's ████ why you're so good at what you do yeah I think uh I know how
34:49 to pick like a strength yeah and then see like oh I can I can see where this is gonna go in a year or two and then so I've seen that yeah and I'll give them a shot because also some of them like who would give Nick as many shots as you gave him who who in the world and we all love and yeah right and we love him yeah and you're and there was something there like even as he was deflector Nick and all that stuff for a long time but he is we love Nick like it's so funny how much we love Nick but like it is and like the careful boys right as it exists today which is a totally different thing it's a fun group bro and when we have the core character no one's a comedian no and that's my favorite thing not even bro I'm more than mine I'm a tuber comedian but what I'm saying is like the the core group of the careful boys is my favorite group yeah and I I can't wait
35:39 even like when I see my phone light up and it's from careful boy shot I can't wait to see what you guys have to say about the world yeah and I think that that's what people have have really hooked on to but like that doesn't happen anywhere like that I think that is a result of like you guys incubating this like crazy experiment and then like it evolving past you know maybe we even you know came out of the woke era as careful boys obviously it's the title but capitalizing on it in such a different way I think by just taking normal people like ████ dancers there's more dancers than regular people on the show yeah and dancers are not even you know look I don't like dancers I'll be honest I don't like them yeah cans right there I don't I don't like can't because he's a dancer no but it's the it really is um who would give a dancer a platform to talk
36:30 but is it not something that we're all thankful for like honestly yeah like Anthony Lee he brings in so much he's so everyone has different qualities about them that are so strong that I'm like dude they're just not either harnessing it or someone's not seeing this and Norma me would go like hey can we have that dancer like maybe you could do a podcast with like a dancer's like for I don't know because it actually doesn't make sense like if you think about what I should be doing is I should be going to all these improvs with an ice house and I should be trying to scout those guys to be a part of the group I should be um you know hiring an editing team from maybe an editing company or whatever uh that's where it should come from right
37:21 I never did anything that way and I think it's probably because we had to be resourceful from the get because we never had funding we had to do it all from but why did you guys get because like you guys at one point I'm not gonna talk numbers but you guys were pulling in like insane amounts of money a month right yep and you had the option to do the ████ thing on which tubers fall fall victim to right I'm gonna hire official Hollywood help right we tried and then we interviewed them and it just I think it just didn't work out with the company culture because like there were guys that wanted to come in and and then we were just like you know what there's something off here it just doesn't work and at the time my vision for it and it worked out for almost over a decade the the whole family company environment what you saw on the Vlogs all that stuff
38:12 was genuinely real you know and I'm just talking about the dark side here because there's no company with no dark side but if you think about how Disney right they're perfect no dark side yeah but if you think about in general I feel like compared to my other friends businesses and all that I feel like so lucky that we were able to go for such a long stint without the issues even the issue that I just brought up right now with like maybe this guy you know or or or gal or or Anonymous person you know maybe they edited something for their own ego or whatever not for the benefit of the the group it was still harmless compared to what like the nightmares that my friends have were you still I mean you know I think the way that you framed it was really good
39:02 because you you almost viewed as a personal failing yeah that like you you were there sleepwalking while that happened almost in a way and like I you know I think that that happens to everybody they just there's a flaw in the system there's a monkey in the wrench and you don't you're like okay I acknowledge that now yeah and I I think I didn't foresee certain things about human nature because I just couldn't believe that some people will be that um like they want validation so badly or they were so desperate to I'm like be right about something or or want the affection of strangers because my mind doesn't operate in the same light where um you know if the negative comments don't affect me that much I just assume that people in my group wouldn't be that effective yes but then
39:52 they are like they it took out Julia like it destroyed her for years but dude I like I said that before on a JK video and people are like he's lying that's not why she left them like no she literally said that that's why she left like yeah she's talking about she said it in I know the video but they don't want to accept it it's because you guys are toxic all of us we're just two tops yeah but I think um the people that were toxic they don't remember right there's you know people have amnesia and I think that's the issue is like they don't understand how much their actions and what they say can really harm someone on the other end yes like if it's like me or Bart it doesn't matter you know but like someone like Julia or someone who genuinely loves everybody and wants to be accepted by everybody that weren't meant to be
40:44 entertainers in the first place Julia was here to be behind the scenes but as a supporter she did everything that we basically needed help for and if it meant being in front of the camera she joined in and then so she doesn't like attention she doesn't want to be a famous person but when you say Julia was loving is that really true because she didn't love Josh as much as I wanted her to as a fan you talk about the fanfics yeah yeah oh my God we got some dirty dirty dirty dirty fans hilarious fans out there dude one of my favorite by the way one of my favorite moments in JK Discord history which there's there's a JK Discord hey check it out yeah on patreon.com jk just kidding news yeah you got to join the
41:34 just kidding news to be a part of our special Discord it's great Discord we had an older Discord when we were just getting going right but I remember one of my favorite moments was I started a channel called Josh and Julia forever yeah yeah and it was I was just trying to enable the whoever amount of people there were that were trying to get Josh and Julie together and I was like this is so funny to me I can't handle it so I'm not gonna like use whatever I have to bring it up in into the surface and then I remember doing a I remember it was like Halloween time and I remember writing like age I was like it's it's sweaty on the set of just kidding I'm like Julie is like oh my God is the air conditioner broken and Josh walks in the room he's like I just checked yeah it's definitely down for the camp
42:25 and I remember Sean who is a JK Legend we love Sean Sean was so scared and nervous about what I was gonna write next that he started deleting everything that I was saying deleting everything that I was saying because he was like this is so risque but the fact that to him it was so risque it was just so it's so funny it's so funny yes exactly he was like I can't believe he's like is Steve gonna have it's like Josh Julia do simulated ████ on this bike he's like I can't I can't even get to the ████ party dude I was on it well my bit was just gonna be about like all the equipment that JK is not working but like like with sexual undertones but then he couldn't handle it any of that if you thought you were gonna go straight into the ████ ████ shot wow just like
43:17 talking about the infrastructure Jake is not great yeah yeah uh it was no I do remember that oh so fun so fun a gem a gem of a person I love Sean but that's what I'm saying like with this unique group right like Julia does love everybody yeah like like Julia I get how fans go like oh Julia would work with this person this person even though she's like had a boyfriend for like ████ years now um but she is a special person and the idea that but the idea right the the little like um dark corner of that is that people think that like somehow JK chased her away and it's like oh she yeah she literally thrived from JK that's why she says happy birthday to me till this day every ████ Year all the time now but people can't accept it they need the dramos yeah right but this is what I mean by like there's always going to be these crazy folks with with wild
44:08 imaginations agendas right but it's like we should never forget the actual fans that love us the silent ones the ones that watch they don't con they don't comment they don't participate in an account no they and they come out of the Woodworks too like when there are videos like on JK where we talk about it they do come out you know and then you'll just see all of a sudden a thousand comments on one video saying like we're still here and so blah blah I love it too and then the best part is seeing them face to face yeah honestly I was having a bad day this morning because like the airport stuff blah blah and then I sat like I said I sat next to JK fan and I was like man I'm so I'm so lucky right like I can't believe how lucky we all are because you and Bart had a stupid idea in a parking lot like ████ 15 years ago and and Hannah says this too like she's like I can always tell when when they're your fan and I'm
44:58 like why it goes um because they dress cool and then they they're they're actually cool people yeah so I'm like it's rare that we're lucky right that we have fans that are just normal human beings legit yeah yeah some of the other fans I'm just like man like you got some weird in cells are like you got some wow they're like horrible looking people did I'll send you a link to it you'll like this guy oh yeah but he does toy train stuff on YouTube and can you imagine his fan base like ████ ████ dude like somebody's he probably has like six-year-olds and 50 year olds that look like six exactly dude and you know you know that he's like at the airport yeah or he's like you know somewhere social and he's like to his wife he's like yeah this guy's like hey can you put a dildo in the front of the ████ train and
45:48 I'm like God damn it dude he's like yeah I just want to get on all fours in front of that ████ train on them train tracks all tied up oh my god dude really you're my fan and then like he gets some six-year-old kid too who's like hey I really like trades oh my god he has to have a whole conversation with them but he's like here's my fan okay cool always on my patreon all right yeah I gotta be cool you imagine the nightmare I know but we have the coolest the best fans I think um so like slowly gaining back control of this having a team that's fun yeah attitude is so different everyone wants to be here they want to be here there's no complaining there's no like who ████ about being a JK no nobody if I if I have one complaint it's lighting here because like it's just pretty bad
46:38 it reminds me of corporate office but like I say it out in the open like I know that's what I you know to me if you have ████ to say just say it that's the that's the biggest thing is like I don't think we're unapproachable never think we're people that you can't talk to so I don't know why like you're just you'll take minimal action that's what people don't know that's why I don't know why it's like why did they pent it up I don't know I don't know I don't know because you guys make fun of you guys more than anybody makes one of you guys but that's why you know like like I've said many times My love language is getting my balls busted and so that's why we all got on so quickly so I think that's that was probably one of my like early leadership flaws is not accurately understanding the relationship I have with my team or like also um probably not being approachable
47:29 because I've heard that like you know I'm intimidating or like I'm I'm whatever or or difficult to talk to or maybe I did do something early on because like we had members that were with us for over 10 years right so I'm like maybe they're holding on to something of 20 25 year old Joe right you know and then 25 year old Joe might have reacted differently when they tried to uh bring up a concern or whatever and then maybe they didn't you know forgive me for whatever reason 10 years later they they might still think I'll react the same way I don't know but I think there's definitely some baggage there that I'll take responsibility for but the but the thing is I never got the opportunity to have that like sit down and like let's hash this out and it just it just some some stuff was just like
48:21 um a big surprise like when I I never predicted that certain members would not be able to handle the fame like when I put him in front of the camera and all this stuff um like they would all of a sudden get a following and all this stuff and and I was kind of shocked because because like let's like let's say it's an insignificant compared to you know some of the people that we have as guests or whatever but they're acting more Diva than the people that are yeah so you know like cool JK fans just relating to the nice person more than the diva person and so then they're getting more of a following yeah right yeah yeah yeah you're right or like yeah more like they're they're they might be acting like a diva even all of a sudden because they have a following oh well yeah that's what I mean that's what I'm like shock me because certain people are like
49:12 I never thought that you would be this way yeah and on top of that you're never trying to be a star or or Talent you know on camera person yeah and then there's a lot of things about people in general that I learned over the years that that I didn't predict well I did it in some ways but in other ways I didn't yeah is that something where you're like I know what to do now or is it just something where you're like ████ it I'm just gonna believe in people anyway and we'll see what happens I think I know how to give my time to people that show actual like I don't want to say promise but like it's more like um the older you get right you assess people better hopefully yeah because in
50:03 the beginning I thought that all people needed was resources so they can pursue the things that they need or maybe information but I think I was completely wrong about that like you can't teach someone motivation you can't teach someone inspiration you can't teach someone like positive attitude those things are just like inherent behavioral traits and unless they want to um those things will just not like you can't make someone stop complaining like if that's their personality oh you can hit them or throw them down the stairs but if that's if they're like an extreme cynic right yeah and then they complain about everything like that's just who they are and you gotta accept that and roll with it because let's say like you're in a creative space and you just
50:53 need an environment where people are brainstorming not someone who's like shutting everything down then you just then it's my fault as a leader to plug in the wrong person in this group for that kind of environment instead of molding them where does Bart come in with that for your process like you're plugging somebody in is there a conversation or is it just like I'm plugging somebody in and Barge just like I trust you in most cases people were plugged in out of necessity and he I don't know like we're both very like hey we don't know what the answer is going to be so let's try it unless there's like us hard no like there's certain times when I gave extreme like I had to fight Bart on certain things like in the beginning there was another competitive competing um website not YouTube I don't even remember the name now because they got
51:44 so wrecked by you guys you wrecked them so bad you don't remember the name yeah but it was like it was another website called I don't know um but they were they were actually paying so this was during the time when YouTube wasn't paying yeah yeah yeah and Bart was like we should jump onto this platform because um they're paying their creators and then I was like no YouTube is what everyone's using it's gonna be Google it's gonna be like the platform so even if it doesn't pay it's probably gonna be that's tight dude Bart was so stupid [Laughter] I have to search like to the beginning of our you know business no that's really good to dig something you had a gun you had a good Instinct on it yeah but there are only certain things like that where I'm like if I don't have a hard stance I don't fight him that much yeah yeah
52:35 but with people how about with people with people is there conversations is it like you know because we have guests in all the time like is there you guys check in after or how's that go no actually it's been I think the the organic growth over time like because if you remember the way that we built was basically I need this person well I just need a person to be here you know what I mean like like even Geo it was like hey we need a girl for this skit can you find someone nope or the girl last minute bail the actor bailed so now Geo has to play right you know I think you're one of the more toward the end where I actually chose um so like
53:25 after being a guest uh for so many I guess years before we actually committed to having you on board like as like a salary a professional yeah like that um I think it's because well one like uh we like your taste of Comedy but you also had skills because you know we wanted to write a bunch of scripts yeah so it came in the form of like maybe a consultant or someone that would but then you just ended up being a part of the writer's Circle yeah yeah and then from then it was like just having you on consistently as like a host or even before that just consistently on the show because um after David stepped away we just needed you no but it worked out well yeah it was I mean honestly I mean and we all love David I I there's no shoes
54:17 to fill per se I just I always loved David uh when David's on it's so ████ fun too yeah but no it it um yeah for me it was just great because it came at the right time for me my channel got demonetized all that ████ yeah and then I just remember being like well what's next in this chapter of my life like I but you were actually like disgusted and picked too it wasn't because like well David's gone we need Steve it was more like no you were already here I never got that impression from you guys and you guys were but you guys are very like not official when you guys do something like that like there was no ticker Day Parade or like a handshake like send her a handshake with a photo it was very much just like I I just kept getting booked every week and I was like I guess I'm like regular now and I think Nick went through that recently too and like Anthony went through that recently too and we all kind of had a conversation about about this like when we were
55:07 walking like a month and a half ago but no it's just funny how you you know I do appreciate that though like it is um not stressful in a way yeah because you don't like put that on someone and I literally like we just date until it's like you know this but I do respect you guys and what you guys built so much that I didn't want to presume like I didn't want to go like well I'm I'm the I am a member you know you know I really like liked you guys and like didn't want to presume anything yeah but um yeah when that kind of got confirmed to me I was very happy obviously the day I like like I told Nikki the day that I met you guys like I got in the car and I said I could do that every week forever yeah and it doesn't feel like work and I've never said that about anybody right like like I I and I'm not kidding and I'm not dissing anybody in my past I'm just saying like there are drawbacks to
55:57 shooting things sometimes and that's normal it's very normal right but like with you guys it was just like I was hanging out and like you guys say for your um your why like why you guys did the show it's like we're hanging out in the parking lot after we all like had dinner yeah and like it is like that it is and and it and it just didn't feel like we were doing any work at all yeah and it hasn't frankly for ████ eight years or whatever that's why we keep it going we take a 40 pay cup hey I look forward to every pay cut I know yeah and it's and it's funny too because we keep growing in Subs but it's like now yeah finally right because we were going down we were at like 1.8 and then 1.7 and then it goes right back to 1.9 it's gonna go back to 1.8 I'm done yeah dude I was actually catching up with you guys with a dead Channel
56:47 really yeah that's how I knew I was like well how many Subs is your non-active 0.7 oh my God I was like dude I was like I am on a sinking ship but I think for some reason I'm uh a zeppelin coming up out of the clouds so as a as a business owner right we've kind of touched on all that a lot but as a creative yourself is there anything in JK or like you know is there something you have inside you creatively that you can't get out yet because you do this so routinely and then you go back to June B Hawaii um I think during covid and the whole cancel culture and all these things right like that was the first time when I felt like people used to love me for this comedy and now they hate me and I know that wasn't true but you know in that moment
57:37 it felt like that's your mindset what's the like what's the point of doing this if you're gonna turn on me but again I think like when you're just in a heightened state of mind you don't really recognize that there are a silent majority that love who you are and then they haven't stopped loving the content that you created but also what was discouraging was um you know jokes on Instagram was getting like taken down or like every time you would invest something and post something like your channel will get violations and all these things right and then you're just like well ████ if it's gonna harm the business potentially then what am I allowed to say and they're not clear about it and that was kind of scary because I think like I don't care about a bunch of people like saying I ████ hate you
58:28 um but if it means now all of us like I can't do this anymore because the Channel's taken down and I can't you know even afford like to keep this place open like that was scary and then without any any warning it can happen so I think that definitely played a role in my mind because I never had to edit I was able to like freely speak and I do still but it's so much different than 2016 Joe yeah yeah I don't know how do you feel I mean you your channel got absolutely butt wrecked murdered yeah but uh no I I feel like almost uh well I always feel fortunate I can't believe I'm still even doing tubes like yeah this long and you know me and Nick could be doing our podcast for like ████ almost five years or whatever four years
59:20 yeah um and but but I remember I always remember why like why I started it so it's like you know with with our podcast right our ████ they don't tell you show we we started it because we were like we're really in love with each other and like we can't believe that um it's not like like one of those people it's like I have millions of dollars I'm like I can't believe everyone's not rich it's like it's like I can't believe that everyone settles was our thing I see yeah yeah and so that's where it started from for us it was like the spark that started for us is like man the ████ that I wish I knew growing up about like like oh man I wish that people knew that like you don't have to go for your first relationship or your second relationship or your third relationship where there are things that are serious and they're missing yeah yeah you can really wait it out and you can actually just like get that right person to come in and click
1:00:10 for you and actually our producer his name's mark and he actually just you know he's been listening to us because he's been ████ producing our show forever he just met like the chick of his dreams finally and he's like a divorcee and like he just stopped doing the normal thing which is like settle settle settle right everyone who's suffering around you says relationships are suffering you're gonna suffer too that's what relationships are about right and he just like zoned out of that and just focused on what he wanted instead and it changed his life yeah and I live for that because when you connect it's a it's a completely different feeling bro look at you yeah I mean that's you broke up in my living room and look at you now you're you're a married man yeah we can finally talk about that I love that I know right so sick congrats bro yeah thanks you've had the craziest come around ever I know and I mean when you
1:01:00 when you asked earlier like what was one of the way like what gave you the clarity and what gave you this energy and the new turnaround and she's a big part of it you know yeah just having her um gave me a lot of stability women do that like for guys that are like me that are just constantly on the go and like we're we're not thinking about the future in the way that we don't women have the capability bro no they don't they think differently but I like the different you know it's it's a good it's a good kind of perspective that I don't slow down and think about but she's go go in her own way it's just a different perspective and um when you can really like I'm sure you know man like it's just when you can work together on that it it becomes it evolves into something better yeah yeah yeah and it gets better and better and that's what the weirdest thing is when you have Joe's back and
1:01:51 you have trust yeah underlying all that yeah it gets better and better and better and better it does we just celebrated our 10-year me and Nikki our 10-year anniversary together our six year anniversary married because we basically got married on the same day that we got together 10 years 10 years wow and like I wouldn't have it any other way dang like I don't really have a bad thing to say about Nikki other than like just hilarious nitpicky like funny things right like I do with everybody including yeah especially myself yeah but yeah no it's it's very um it's it's honestly like a beautiful um thing when you have your person like yeah because your person's like you're bound like you're you're you're already have like a you're bound to the earth almost and and then you can kind of start to reach out of that and I've seen that with you because you were very constricted before yeah like you were
1:02:43 very like protect Joe first and you were in defense mode I completely respect that and even as like we were doing live streams and I was sending ████ into your your DMs after yeah they're like I was like okay so just so you know like as we leave the live stream the next place to go is directly into Joe's Instagram DM you are so funny when you you basically alley-ooped a lot of hookups for me that was that was awesome dude I was just riding but that was a great Rod that was a really great um healing process yeah in general just like going back into the game feeling desired dating like a lot of people they they hate dating when after a long relationship but I think you you help me make it fun the type of people I was dating to they were all very cool and
1:03:34 like um you know it's it was it was it was good experiences didn't work out but they were all like I think you learned about yourself yeah like I haven't seen you doing like it was good because I've known you yeah and then I think everyone I should try and Achieve that but I think it's like if you if you're not in it you don't know that that's the thing to do exactly and I think because the majority is like what you mentioned settling because of you because like previous to um you know breaking up in your living room I think like we were both in that situation for a long long time because I think the worst thing that can actually happen to a relationship is two people who are kind in in in a way where like you we had a lot of loyalty and duty to
1:04:25 each other and we stuck around thinking that we had to because nothing was technically wrong like there was no major like infidelity issues or like massive lying and like hurtful abuse and and whatever it was just like to completely different life goals and mentality people that are like always friction exactly because it's like we're just yeah you're a risk taker she wasn't as willing to take those risks yeah she owns that she knows that yeah she's says it many times and I'm friends with both of you and I am like yo you guys are wonderful people I love both of you separately together we can be you know yeah it's just combustion all the time philosophies right hey I I don't believe in crypto I believe in crypto boom right like it's like those
1:05:16 then I'm just using uh but if you're if there's too many disagree disagreements on just how you view the world and the things that you want to do then it ends up having too much friction I'm an environmentalist I drive Hummers exactly and that's how it was yeah and just this wasn't a match it was like I was a vegan and she's a carnivore or whatever and it's like how the ████ are we gonna decide on getting a jerky in my backyard yeah but I think what but you guys are still friends oh 100 but that's what I'm saying we still work together exactly so like people know that but behind the scenes like there's there's still like there's no hard feelings exactly so like it was a beautiful breakup maybe the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my own living room and it was yeah because at the end that I think that's what made it so horrible is the is the fact that like there was really no legitimate reason to
1:06:08 if this was ████ 1910 it's like it's like why yeah right well you guys would live for 15 more years so you didn't die but yeah die a smoke stack inhalation yeah coming back from the coal mine and like yeah yeah I know exactly but like yeah it was it was not you know at this point it's like okay this is convenience then because we don't need to be together but I remember during that time there was no real example and so like if like let's say it wasn't a catalyst like well well for like if 99 of the relationships around you are dysfunctional and unloving right well I don't want to say unloving but they're going through hard times maybe in the moment they're not being loving right um then you just think that's normal if your family members relatives best
1:07:00 friends whatever and they can't also be a voice of guidance because so like let's say they're they're working out their own ████ right and if if it's only one couple telling us saying like maybe that's not a good idea you seem like you're in the wrong yes or you seem like you're delusional you seem like you're delusional right you want a Disney movie right it's like hey maybe it worked out for you guys because you guys lucked out yeah and not that I thought that way but it it could just like just numbers wise right you I'm getting all this confirmation bias from people that the majority of people around me and I'm like maybe that's just what you're supposed to do and from us coming from both broken homes we don't have that what to look at and that's why I realize like having a partner that has parents that are like loving and they're still together is such a ████ big
1:07:51 deal because like some parents are together but they're not loving each other that's my parents right and then that's hard to see too but when you see like Hannah's parents they ████ are they look they're they're still friend like they hang out we go out together and it's like this is what produces someone who believes in love and marriage I love that yeah that gives you hope it does and then so for Hannah she's she's um never had a boyfriend she's dated and whatever but I think that's what she had high standards for men which I feel like pretty dope that she chose me but she has three brothers too so that's why yeah she has high standards of what a good guy should be her dad stuck around and then she also after an argument like like like you
1:08:41 said earlier um we're here for each other so an argument happens but it's about to solve and in the teamwork right yeah I have your back right I want to understand and it was the first time that I've like you know early on in our relationship where when we if we had a disagreement or anything um it was diffused immediately because I realized that you know we're just trying to figure out what the other person is really trying to say I wish more I if I could just take a piece of like a sentence yeah and just emblazing it and put it on every ████ wall it would be that because it really is so important to do that you and me had to mix up one time yeah and we had a dust up and it was like very brief and but it was settled in like the most loving way yeah because I mean at the end of the day like I don't feel threatened or hurt or or unheard by you
1:09:31 you felt the opposite you felt unheard because it was like yeah yeah we went from like hey Steve what's this about yeah total I un like you you hear me and that's what you were saying to me like like like okay yeah wow thanks for listening to what I was saying right because you came at me pretty hot but I was like oh dude like I didn't know that you were taking it and someone else was pissing me off that made me yeah it was it was not me it was not me but my energy was up because they were like were you yeah yeah you talked to me right you didn't feel like you could talk to this person and we found that later but that was you know but it was a beautiful moment for me and I and I like I said it doesn't matter who you are but in conflict resolution I wish more people could just root for their friend like like it doesn't matter my friend's like yelling at me I am rooting to understand where
1:10:21 my friend's coming from and like you know and my friend is a rational person that's why they're my friend that's why I love my friend so I know that we're gonna get there and we didn't it was ████ squashed immediately but that's the beauty of communication like that yeah but it it doesn't help because most people go like this you know why you ████ up let me tell you why you're a ████ ████ there's nothing better than our own mistakes right like nothing better yeah do you know why you ████ up uh exactly dude no exactly well do you know why you were being a ████ [Laughter] let me tell you 10 reasons why you're a ████ idiot oh dude I remember doing I used to do like you know years ago I was
1:11:11 doing shoots with this chick who I was dating and um she was miserable on set like when she's on set she was misery and like it's one of those things where it's like why are you doing this first of all oh it seemed like do you really want to be an actor it's like why do you hate this so much yeah do we do this for if this if you hate this you hate waiting yeah that's what this is yeah this is waiting this is like they're setting up lights and getting like the ████ you know temperature of the room and they're doing like room tell and then and then this ████ is like before we go do a shoot like after all that like we did like a I don't know a day and a half music video and then after that she has the audacity to be like wait you you're going to shoot why aren't they asking me and I was like because you're
1:12:02 a handful dude yeah I actually I didn't know how to do this other than just not even looking at her so I just went around our our apartment at the time and I was like oh you know I I think I know why I have a theory about this and I just kept on I kept on going up to like different pieces of furniture and like different things like straightening things like I Gotta Straighten a little bottle on the table or something and I take a picture of the wall and like straighten it and be like I think it's because like yeah like when we're on set hold on a second let me just fix this real quick you're such a ████ ████ and I think it's a wake-up call right do you think she understood I think after that she did a little bit more I think most people go throughout life impulsively saying things and acting and
1:12:54 not understanding how it affects other people around them I completely agree with you I think if you have parents who are well off yeah you're more likely to be an impatient person oh yeah yeah and you're more likely to be like they're wasting my time yeah but your time doesn't mean ████ they didn't book you for this job because you're such a ████ ████ yeah the whole time right oh my God yeah but that you know and that's such a and we've all been that ████ ████ yeah like at some point in our lives whether it's on set or not like we've all you but it's good to have the perspective and not everyone does and that's always the frustrating part I don't know I think um if more people were able to just chill out and think before they say ████ it would we would all be in a better place but unfortunately like I don't know human nature man bro if we thought before we said ████ like JK news wouldn't exist wait you're saying those jokes aren't
1:13:44 calculated yeah I did that was one of the most absurd I've seen a lot of those absurd things in my time but someone saying that we had a script that was I think that takes the taco that is that's a lot of work I mean that's actually kind of collateral it's not possible it's super flattering it's so flattering we shoot 20 episodes a day and back then we used to shoot about 30 to 40. dude we saw 28 when I was on the show we wrote freaking wow get out of here I know you guys you know it sucks a little bit because you guys are like well we're in the real war and I'm like I was I was in the war with you guys but like yeah 28 episodes because no and the real ████ was like we're doing ████ 38 Episodes we're sleeping here and I'm like ah ████ but they were like they were like 10 minute episodes so they weren't absolutely thank you there's no off the records there wasn't uh an eight minute
1:14:35 episode where everyone's looking at the clock the whole ████ time earlier mention um I remember like the way we segued into this was was um the passion part of it right because I I think where you were getting at with that is that like so do you have time for passion right yeah because like JK news is like a routine thing that we do getting with the boys but was it ever my true passion because back then I wanted to uh create content like in the form of narrative like shorts skits maybe even a feature one day right and I think what I realized and I had this talk with Bart 2 because for me I thought that my goal was to get into acting and create this character and and tell these stories right
1:15:27 and then I was like why didn't I fight hard for it when I had that opportunity to actually do the movies and all that and then I could have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars that I had on a movie but I ended up doing other businesses and things like that and I realized I just love building businesses with friends I hated Hollywood I hate the smoothie I I wouldn't need to I never want to sacrifice myself to do certain things if if it just doesn't if I don't if it's not worth it for me so for example like I mean you you actually made movies and you actually were a part of that world in the Indie space but you already seen a a bit of it and isn't it exhausting because we're not like that when Trump won re-election I remember being on the phone I'm not gonna say
1:16:18 where or when or anything but I remember being on the phone and I remember people from a major Motion Picture company being like my friends are gay are they about to go into a camp and I was like what in the ████ are these people are we going to look they're gonna send gay people to a concentration they're gonna send my friends into a camp and I was like what in the ████ are these people even talking about I was like what are these and I'm like I'm not even like saying like oh like yeah yeah Trump's the best I'm like no no like what are you guys talking about like you're in another world right so you're just in like an elsewhere else world's um universe it's not real it's so wild yeah that's what I mean like so when I when that that was one of my first examples of that I also remember like during covet I went and got a shotgun and like some of the people that I knew in the in that
1:17:09 world were like very offended that I got a gun but I was like I don't live like in this like nice area you guys live yeah so they could live in gated communities with armed guards that do the dirty work for them but then Van Nuys yeah that's crazy I was like he was on the border of Van Nuys but like it was you know they only changed it like they had like a city um whatever um provision to call it something other than Van Nuys so property values would maybe go up yeah yeah but like bro it was Van eyes yeah and so but that but these people are like why would you even get a gun that's insane you're gonna go shoot a school up or whatever and so when when you start to hear people talk like that you're like I don't think that we live in the same world yeah I for sure we don't because I like I look I believe in um like a single mom needs a gun yeah because
1:18:02 there's somebody who's more powerful than her exactly they don't even need to go to the gym right they're just more powerful than her because there'll be guys like I could handle them with the bat and I'm like yeah but what about my grandma like you know like exactly yeah and then so Hollywood was just full of um just people I don't Vibe with you know saying bro and then I have support from my community you know like like um you know Asians that are that that that's always been trying to get out there break through and they did they they made strides and they and I'm glad that there were people that were willing to do a lot of the things that you know I just didn't want to because then you know it takes a certain personality to go in there and just be above all that ████ and still go through the
1:18:53 auditions and then still work with people that they might not necessarily like but to me that's a that's a skill in itself because you have to have a strong personality and a lot of patience because like us we don't we'll just get into arguments straight up and then we'll just tell people I think you know what me you and especially David one of our things we love doing is if someone's a piece of ████ we can't like in front of them yeah like and letting everybody else know what a ████ face they're being right and by the way and I'm such a writer right I don't even like the funk Bros because David doesn't I don't like them hey I don't like them right now you don't even know them because of David but I'm a writer I'm a ████ Rider forever yeah and then that's how we are too like it's like oh really David you yeah this ████
1:19:44 producer was a dick to you all right well next time I see that fool I'm gonna ████ be so funny everyone he's gonna leave there with his tail tucked between his ████ legs right and then I think yeah and at the end of the day it wasn't about achievements I think it was about being able to continue a way of life and freedom with my friends yeah and then so you've proven that that's like literally your life yeah and so it's I think if passion it it isn't really just um you know making the biggest hits or doing this or whatever and I think I got a lot of that out of my system in my early years and now it's just about um like having a business idea assembling a team getting excited about it together and executing it well and as boring as that sounds I feel like I had
1:20:35 so much creative stuff out of my system that now I'm having a lot of fun doing just like more traditional business I don't know like no that totally makes sense I mean you're literally proving that you're showing up every day in Hawaii making boba tea for people like you're doing it yeah but you you clearly like it a lot oh yeah I like it why it's so different from the creative field because like in entertainment right there's a lot of emotions there's a lot of Dreams it attracts a lot of people who just can't function in the more left brain world right and and me too I'm that right and it's it's a it's a lot of um it attracts also people who want to um find meaning and purpose and self-esteem and like
1:21:25 and like they want to get away from that whereas like something like a cleaning company or a farm or like let's say even jumi right um things like that already exist and people aren't going there to escape and and find themselves or like be somebody right like people don't be a boba Barista because that's a life passion they end up opening up their own bubble shop if that's their life passion but it's typically someone who wants a fun cool job during college or like you know no one's gonna be as passionate about the product as I am in my team but at the same time it's like it's a good transition for them or like
1:22:16 if you have like a like a factory or something right like people are going in there to get the job done and then they're done I don't have to constantly deal with people's egos in the same way do you think people go to Tyson's Chicken they're like I just love chickens so much and then they go there like ah ████ oh ████ what I thought I was gonna be I thought this was gonna be like a nice thing with chickens I wonder what their job interview is like so uh I love chickens chickens I ████ love them but no dude so so as you see so this is interesting as a business owner you see employees come in and they're it's a transitory thing they're trying to get through college or whatever is there a way is there like I always wonder this because corporate wise
1:23:06 corporate always does the slogan ████ like the ████ rah-rah yeah do you even bother or do you agree people um well it depends on the company culture some people are really about that like bro like I don't know I think people just have to ask my employees on how they like it yeah but um but how do you approach it of the the rah-rah corporate like hey prepare daringly today guys hey good morning prepare daringly when you're making the tea today so our model is prepared daring me but I think you don't have to be so um pretentious yeah like I I choose a lot of chill energies some people do have hype energy but um I like people who are very
1:23:56 comfortable in themselves and sometimes there are people that are like very shy but if I see those qualities about them I'm like yeah you'll you'll gel well with everybody else and they all work really well together surprisingly about drama yeah um sidebar now you're a married man yeah we can finally talk about this yes I know right as a married man do you have advice for people out there who are looking to get married as a like hey you've been married I've been married for a year but before that ████ like I've been in many relationships long-term relationships several years where I lived with my partner on many occasions right and on top of that just like a lot of dating and hookups too so a lot of ████ and sucking a lot of ████ and
1:24:46 sucking and licking and slurping and whining and dining so if you look at it traditionally that means I probably divorced like five times already because just just back in the day like if you actually moved in with the girl lived with them and all that like it's kind of the same thing the only thing that's different is that you're actually life planning with someone you're married with your family yeah and then and then you see so you see life a little bit differently but even with girls that I was dating and living with it felt pretty close to what it is now it's just that there wasn't any future plans yeah um the advice would probably be pay attention closely to how she treats
1:25:36 her family and her relationship with her family if she has family love that yeah that's so interesting why you say that something that stuck with me um that my mom told me early on she was like you could date all these girls but you're marrying her family so like you could date them but is that your father that you want is that you know her sister that you want like like it's her family you're marrying not her and then Saul's like what does she mean by that and it just kind of stuck with me and I would always observe the family of the person I was dating um and I'm like am I gonna have friction with this person or not but I would add the the extra layers how shall does she treat her parents that's really good yeah and how does she treat her siblings
1:26:26 yeah nice and I I think right right from the jump you know Hannah's like she's always involved in her brother's lives they're all like friends they hang out like we went hiking with their brother like um you know her you just saw them in London no uh yeah we were when we're in Wales and yeah um I've seen them interact you know and I was like okay this is dope because it's one thing to hear and know but like to see it in real life and then be a part of it and then knowing that that's your family now too it's it's pretty cool well the yeah gonna wrap it up now it's time to wrap it up but I I do uh genuinely hope for everyone listening that you find a friend in life who is as
1:27:17 genuine and as great a friend as JoJo is hey the same could be said about you bro like you're genuinely someone who wants the best for their friends right like I don't really see you as someone and this is what I hate about a lot of people is that like they don't sing praises of their friends when they're doing well they're in this internal competition in battle and insecurity and jealousy I don't get that from you like you live your own life and you have your own things that you like but you have such a diverse group of friends because I think you root for everybody's success and I try to collect people like that and it's a it's it's really a good trait to have because there's so many people out there that do the opposite like and as soon as I notice that about people I kick them out of my life yeah dude it no
1:28:07 it is look there's a like you said about this town right it's transactional here um but that's why you know I'm not a fan of La really uh of the LA culture I guess yeah um but no it is it is a fascinating Endeavor I guess to try to understand but yeah I I um I just yeah like you said I really root for people everybody I hope everybody wins in life but I know that sometimes to win you have to lose and I'm one of those people who have lost to learn to know how to win yeah like and so to piggyback off of that um where do you think the crypto Market is going so right I mean crypto's here to stay it's been here too long for it to disappear yes sir but I think it's gonna be you know like the stock market but is it going to go
1:28:58 in the same like so for example when the economy tanks right like well exactly yeah like the trend is typically what stocks first and real estate and then I'm wondering like if crypto and stocks will work will be parallel or will we see like would it would it be an independent Market or like will we see a different I don't know you know like yeah yeah well it's interesting too because so you know we've been the crypto market for a while um do you feel like the crypto Market is is something that you want to be part of or is it something that you feel like like as a movement oh yeah yeah oh 100 I'm I'm waist neck deep into it yeah and I'm
1:29:48 also very competitive and I'm so angry that I lost 1.6 million um 1.2 baby right that uh a part of me is like no I'm gonna lose five that's right next time you know what I mean and I'm gonna lose 4.8 let's go baby uh yeah I first lost 800 000 the next I lost one point let's make that five million hey but how much you put in that's 10 million baby right God imagine I know I think it's going to be one of the things where people are like you know you work so hard you probably shouldn't just waste it on crypto well look my whole thing is like small amount of money into a big amount of money why are you risking a lot you shouldn't you don't have to if you're any good at it you should get sick
1:30:38 multiples right I'm up 80 right now on the market in the last six months who the ████ else is not really around you look at s█████ ass cardano and I'm looking at you all Cardona holders 14 in six months that's all you got let's just tell the real truth everyone bought it early thinking they were gonna pump it together in unison and guess what happened they fell prey too crypto YouTube and guess what happens on crypto YouTube you buy the thing way too late it's so saturated everyone ████ knows about it and you get wrecked you hold the bag congrats on holding the bag but it to me it was just like Ripple part two like I know I'm gonna get ripped apart for saying this but it's really that's what it is that is what it is the market yeah the supply is insane the ████ markup's insane you guys doing out there there are gems out there gems in the darkness gems in the woods and uh that's my game anyway and I I look I got killed
1:31:28 with Luna of course yeah but guess what still cashed out sixes and six figures and guess what I'm still up 70 ████ eight percent against all you ████ well yeah well six months your principal you gotta look at it this way it's like what did you come into the game with exactly like 10 G's exactly and you turned 10 G's into what 300K in it right or 28k 28 and 2 yeah 50 275 yeah that's that's all I see though that's how I see it as yeah I see it as this is someone who put 25k that turned it into 300K that turned it into almost uh 135 000 right and then you know you're still free rolling that's that's just free rolling right dude I haven't ever put six figures in a crypto right never gonna yeah I mean you gotta earn it right so it's it's stages the the method is stages right My Method anyway it's
1:32:18 like you you you do a small amount of money into a big amount of money right then you take profits on that big amount of money and then you reinvest but you just keep it small you gotta ████ do this crazy ████ that people do like like me like well I put in 300 000 but you're a man and you were loving it yeah and I uh and you came back from it and you actually won hard yeah 1.6 mil technically I did 1.6 mil out of 110. I mean that's what I'm saying and because yeah that's what the darkest day of OMG it was 110 right well because when you told me um I think it was 2019 or 20 no no 20 I got in 2017. when did you decide to sell your OMG February of 2021 and 20 or 2020 I think it's 2019. I want to say maybe it's 20 20.
1:33:09 I think it's 20 20. no when was the when was the bull was it 2022-21 no the Bulls started the well the bull really started in 2019. I mean the the the the yeah that was uh God I can't remember throwing ahead okay anyways you told me you gave me a warning yeah you're like hey I'm I'm out yeah and that's when I was like all right let's do it and then we went to snx with snx and then we did AV yeah well I didn't get the AV but I I barked it yeah yeah yeah and then we rolled the Luna so when I got out at that time it was 110k yep 110 and K we kept trading trading trading I built it up to sick moves 1.6 mil and then and I was able to leave with 150. so technically I'm up 40K with a
1:34:00 hundred but ████ it's about the gains right it's about what we did with the small amount of money yeah take a small amount of money turn into a big amount of money that's the point that you can even do that is insane to people people live their whole ████ lives doing a 401k and they don't even get there and we did it in like what 10 months yeah it's uh and that's so I was having a talk with Nikki recently just to close it was it was our like I said 10 years together six years married she's like holy ████ you have turned like 20 grand into a million dollars two times yeah since we have since our wedding night because I was getting people into ethereum during my wedding and I think there's still so much gains to be had because it's 22 of the world has crypto yeah 22 and in the Market's not even close to what the stock market
1:34:50 is no way so like that's it baby 100 agreed yeah anyways means you always have to flirt about crypto because yeah we got it yeah but hey thank you so much for listening to overtime yep and don't forget to check out overcooked which is the new show over cooking baby
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