0:00 the funniest thing is like let's say I I say some here right and then we're like getting that cancel storm brewing I'll get nothing on my Ig on my wife's page I can't believe you're dating him or you you made a baby with him and she'll give hundreds of DMS and I'm like she's like babe are you getting this I'm like no everyone's people are [Music] laughing well welcome back everybody to a very influential episode of the careful boys where today we have above the influence unaffiliated with anything prior you guys look so familiar to another group though I know we get that a lot but we're not racist and misogynistic like them so that's good that's good it's a good
0:50 start you came to the wrong place then so I mean I'm sure that you guys have told this story on a multitude of platforms already but you know since you're coming here to the big show that you've ever been on that's the truth what the happened or do a kid say facts actually we haven't talked about it that that much to be honest we we we mentioned it on our new platform obviously but um yeah so it was like a it was like a cascading series of events I'm going to try to be careful with what I say but the first one was like we criticized like a Creator who was very famous for making um like I hate men content and uh don't want to mention her name just in case it happens again but yeah like basically br her up and the take was like hey if you're not like a fan of like red pill content this is like red pill content for women and um and then yeah so that that launched the whole series of just like hatred online
1:41 which was fine cuz it's like you're backing up the Creator you like I'm standing on business I don't care and um but then that led to basically them combing through like everything we've ever said cuz that was just like this huge online storm of attention negative attention and you know clipping things we've said out of context things are going everything about us was just going viral on Tik Tok for like months and then uh and then there was one for months for a long time usually like internet stuff kind of blows bro I was waking up every day like watch got over bro like please people before didn't recognize me but now when I went you know around people were like are you Esther I'm just like finally but not for anything good you know what I mean but yeah uh I know and then we're oh yeah so then the thing that like truly truly like blew up and went like Mega viral was a clip of Esther mentioning a Tik Tok
2:33 she had seen and so she was bringing up a Tik Tok she had seen you try to use it as a way to like diss on us her Asian male co-host but like overexplained and then the person that clipped that clip cuz that was like a video from like a year ago maybe like two years ago oh I see and then the person that clipped it just clipped it in the most vilifying way possible because they left out like her referencing saw this Tik Tok like all those things right I was just explaining the video and then they kind of clipped out the part where I mentioned yeah yeah the thing let's just reference it as the thing but yeah the event the event the Thanos snap and then after that that was like the true hate storm like YouTube video YouTube channels making videos on us and you could mention our name get a million likes and so like that was the most annoying part I think it was like the the Asians or like the korean-americans
3:23 that like make content don't get any views and they're like oh here's my chance and they just use it to like sh never didn't even watch the video to be honest they were just like like I couldn't one of the videos was literally like I couldn't even bring myself to watch the video it's so disgusting but I'm going to talk ████ anyway I'm talk about why it's so problematic so I can get views ████ parasites you don't deserve that million likes give it back why did you specifically mention the they're they're all Korean Americans there's this one fat ugly ████ that did it time all right I don't I don't let's not get at hold him back she's like I just started leave him alone let let him say his truth no I I went on my own personal Tik Tok I called her out like you have nothing thank God you're so perfect and you have nothing else going on in your life that you can sit there and make three four different videos about people you don't know talking ████ every day like shut the ████ up you
4:14 stupid ugly ████ I don't who was this I don't remember was that your guys's first experience of being like not mine not mine NE it was my first experience getting cancelled um and not being able to handle it the way I normally do yes mhm which is I will go on the internet for weeks no matter how long it takes and argue with every single one of you but it wasn't even boots on the ground that's what's different because it's not even it wasn't uh directed at you but you're just Guilty By Association yeah yeah yeah but it's like one I would love to argue with any stupid ████ online that's favorite it's really fun these are my these are my best friends so it's like and there's a that added that added layer of like I'm in that group anyways so it's like by association damn yeah so it was Esther's fault right no no no we don't want to say that it was all it was a collective
5:05 effort you know what can I just say that when they when it first happened and they were uh criticizing that content creator I didn't say anything because I didn't know who that person was and because I didn't stand up for a woman they were like she like Esther you're the only girl here and you didn't defend the woman I was like I don't even know who the hell she is she was getting more hate than any of us I got I got the most hate I understand that yeah because they were just like Esther's not a girl's girl honestly like I knew she was a pick me and I was like how how will I defend a girl if I don't know who she is I don't know what they're talking about and so I just stayed quiet I was literally like this like and then I got the most hate out of everybody I just feel like the internet loves to hate on women more like I don't know why it's just so easy it's like easy to critique women right guys can make the same like weird jokes but they don't get ████ for it but the second we make a joke that's anywhere remotely like sexual or misogynistic they're like poor they'll say racist ████ all the time I'll say
5:55 and then I get blown up a lot I'll post crazy ████ or if I get canc the funniest thing is like let's say I say some ████ here right and then we're like getting that cancel ████ storm brewing I'll get nothing on my Ig on my wife's page I can't believe you're dating him or you you made a baby with him and she'll get ████ hundreds of DMS and I'm like she's like babe are you getting this I'm like no everyone's people are laughing engagement through the roof why do you guys think that is uh well I think that men like me yeah yeah men are men are also more quick to judge women but that also women are more quick to judge women too I feel like so maybe women put other women on a you know like a higher standard I guess and so I don't know well like just the whole boys will
6:46 be boys so if they make you know crude jokes or whatever oh they're just boys but as a woman like you should know better but but are the people who are like talking ████ like mainly women though like for example if they're going on Gio's page talking ████ on you or is it women as soon as she starts talking just closed my ears am I shut up ████ that's your problem that's your problem that's your page that's true though cuz I don't even get half of the that's so dumb like when I first started dating Hannah and we made it public she got a couple of DMS saying like I hope you get a miscarriage with this guy wa that's crazy crazy bro that's another thing too is like sh bro for the for the for what happened and then some of the com or the the DMS that she was getting or even I was getting like one
7:37 this is just crazy to say even by my standards like some of that ████ was crazy two you would never say this in real life cuz you're probably 14 and so it's like wouldn't say that half the stuff they say online oh yeah yeah oh yeah it's always from accounts with like one follower or they're following their favorite K-pop stars and it's like show yourself if you're going to chit talk me at least the least you can do is show your fa I think that's another reason why women get it more is cuz people AF aren't afraid of women so like they like they might be afraid to DM you and say something cuz maybe you might pursue them and you're buff you're buff Jill's actually scarier than I am so they're dumb in general most people aren't afraid of women in the same way like women AR afraid of women and guys aren't afraid of women so they it's like I don't know I'm just using this example cuz at yeah like um most of my employees
8:30 at the Boba shop they're all girls right and the the way they get treated compared to like the guys is way different and I was just like thinking wouldn't grown adults who are like delivery app guys or whatever won't they like want to protect a little girl but they're actually screaming at them and they like cuz they cuz they they couldn't find the place and I was like wow like cuz the little girls won't fight back but I never get that kind of energy makes them feel powerful damn oh that's disgusting I hate that yeah but I that's what I think is like maybe they're not not afraid of girls that's why they 100% in person they would not come up to me They hav't Se these shoulders in real life that's right that's yeah cuz how many like of those cancell people actually say anything to you in real life like there's like Millions online that say something but face to face they'll never tell you what's funny is we were going out a lot during mid
9:21 like cancellation like I had nothing else to do yeah yeah I was like I'm going sit home read my feed no I I don't want to do that right so so so we were just outside the whole and we've never normally I'd say like especially in K toown La we get approached a lot but it was I've never been approached that much and it was always positive interactions like people being like yo so sorry you're going through this can I buy you a drink people that we knew but didn't know that well were also like spending way more time to like really like support us like kirao is one of those people where she was like you know like I don't know you that well but I know you're a good person I know you're not like the type of person they're they're calling you online and I was like wow I'm going to go out again tomorrow I like that mine was the opposite so if I go out I hear people going like like literally so obvious but they don't come up to me they they don't come up to me but the thing is I have a doppelganger they're not talking about your shoulders maybe yeah they like yo her should they she's
10:12 probably strong best friends your doppelganger she looks just like you she looks just like me but it's so funny because they'll come up to her and they'll be like are you Esther and she'll be like no and she'll walk away and they'll be like oh that's very bold of her and then she'll come back and she'll be like no I'm not eser but that's my best desper what the ████ you have to say right but it's just like they would come up to her but they won't come up to me so I'm thinking like it's the shoulders shoulders shoulders no way her shoulders are that broad that's what no she's like freakishly strong I just I just lost in armor she shook my hand earlier no way for real I'm and I've been working out mon like making like a lot of grow it's like a party trick we take her to parties and we sit her down and she arm wrestles all the men at the bar she beats like a good 80% of them by me they say guys testosterone is like hella alone now so smoking these dudes it's
11:05 epidemic low tea out here you beat 8% of dudes in armor oh not 80% I know if it's 80% I would say I would say I've never lost to a girl but when it comes to guys I would say depending on size yeah depending on size all right you in bar go you in bar you got small shoulders might get destroyed look how narrow these shoulders are I would love for B just to see like I I firmly believe you'll win but like I want you to see how strong she like arm wrestling her for the first time if you've ever arm Wrestled a girl you know the experience it's like ha and then with her it was like and I'm like what the ████ and then actually had to put an effort to like put it down I'm like oh I just start bleeding from the nose oh oh my God yo you know our friend Jimmy Z right he has muscles he works out she beat I
11:57 don't really even want to say that no it's okay Jimmy that's your fault Jimmy it's our fault dude get stronger do B's program do B's program damn that's capable that's cool it is that's crazy bro hey but getting canceled though doesn't it really tell you like who your real friends were and all that stuff like Isn't that cool like how it's like and it's like oh man you guys are fake yeah oh that's exactly what happened like some of our closest friends in LA in the content space like who I consider myself like lucky to be friends with like I'm like wow these are such good guys like blah blah blah like yeah like I never thank God I came to LA and didn't meet any of the fake people people would talk about and then like at the height of this it was like oh ████ like damn you're one of the fake ones it's funny cuz we finally got a chance to do a podcast with you guys cuz we've been trying to literally and we couldn't even put it out bro sorry we can't put
12:47 this out and we're like I I tried to get the episode from from them to uh yeah for the audience that doesn't know Bart and Joe finally came on UTI it was the episode we filmed right after the one that this so that one went up and then we just saw what was happening we're like we can't do that to them so we thought we we have been completely fine by the way done oh we we're also our wives would have got roasted but we would have been fine people love the episode we would have been relevant again bro at this point we are so uncan like we've been canceled so many times where it just doesn't matter that's what I'm trying to build up cancel final you you can't get canceled if you don't care yeah and and the the reason why like we had to stop it's because someone else was sponsoring us no that that's 100% yeah yeah you guys had a lot to lose we have nothing
13:37 to lose no beyond the not we just straight up were like we don't want to stop and they made us stop and they like basically kicked us it was a very very bad breakup and um did US dirty but yeah yeah I think that's what made it worse cuz I think if you guys just apologize and came out if if you guys did it your way I think the cancellation wouldn't have lasted as long there would have been no apology just kept posting like nothing happened and um and I think it would have been perfectly chilling but yeah so the your your company that you you're you're a small minority owner of that right yeah I was like one of the first earliest investors and um so are you still a minority owner I mean I still am but it's like you know I'd rather I don't give a ████ you know what I mean like I mean that's the hardest part though when you're building Brands and stuff like you know we always were like man I wish I had that Fu money and I wish I sold all of my company so that I don't have to jeopardize my friends
14:27 yeah cuz that's that's something we always think of about and then we always we always do ████ up and get cancelled but then we go man we got to think about our friends and not go as hard mhm mhm cuz we want to go harder than this I want to get cancelled every day like if I if I make it he pushing I would literally like buy all the Billboards on the freeway and just make cancel content and just just a different slur every billboard basically just Kanye right now yeah just Next Level he's my dream that's so true that literally Kanye wow ████ you money would be so awesome honestly it's not like the goal it's like ████ you money but it's like all you need is just like good income that's not touchable by the internet you know what I mean like if you own three car washes you're chilling you know like yeah cuz people still need to get their car wash like it's not going to be like Wu's Car Wash you know it's going to be like rocket car wash some some random
15:17 ████ so they'll never know or you need a business that actually helps Society like it feeds orphans and they like ████ we can't cancel this gu they'll always find a way or your product's got to so good like Chick-fil-A and then you're like I don't care if he's homophobic you know like that's the key so how did you guys come all the way back around to above the influence and how did Kira join so yeah by the way for everyone watching this is Kira I feel we and there's one more right yeah and there's Jordan who is not here yet our Dei hire um but basically it ended um and I guess like I was the only other like I guess like owner owner of UTI and so it was very there was a lot of like arguments behind the scenes like me trying to save it me try to bring in investors buy it like I I tried
16:07 everything under the book to save it um couldn't just the podcast just the podcast yeah yeah to detach it from the brand right and then like we'll solve all the issues you're worried about and you won't be ████ over our careers right and trying to like make both parties happy right and um didn't happen then so that leaves a real bad taste in my mouth I also personally love podcasting like I enjoy it like it's literally like wow I get to ████ sit around with some of my best friends and just ████ have fun and for a grown man I feel like very few instances do you get to actually go and like talk about your day and have somebody intently listen cuz they're being paid right like see Anthony why you always got to see Anthony at the good stuff but yeah exactly so I'm like like started to miss that a lot it felt like something was missing sadly though like everything else in my life started going really well because I was like damn cuz I don't have that ████ in my life anymore everything's popping and then um
16:57 so but like I figured like just I a more healthy relationship with it would work out so you know looked for two more hosts and Kira and Jordan Kira was actually on another podcast as like a semi host and I've seen those episodes and I was like this girl is very talented at podcasting so scouted her drafted her Jordan was one of my best friends so he was just like he's already been on some UTI episodes so that's how he ended up like oh also he has ████ you money too Jordan has ████ you money so you can't cancel him yeah and he has lawyers that like you know like yeah now now it's like the ████ you lawyers because the thing is a lot of people are scared to join the podcast because we got cancered so hard you know what I mean so I really want to protect her but I also love that she's another girl I really needed another girl on the I already got some I canceled my first episode true it's okay literally her first episode it was crazy I was like
17:48 damn they hate what did you get cancelled for so I went on a date with from well I don't someone a m b the name b the name I went on a date with someone from and B the name of the group too just a famous K-pop very famous K-Pop group like one of the number one in Korea and I went on a date with him and it like it was a I was just describing my experience but he's like not perfect right and I think like the image that K-Pop Stars put out in press and in media they're these like angels that are not ████ boys that have like integrity and all that so when I was describing my experience like he wasn't that so then all the K-pop stands were like you're a liar you're a ████ you're a you like they're going to come sue you and then I was I started arguing with one of the commenters they're like you clearly you're lying send proof so I literally dm'd this hater proof like pictures of me with this K-pop Star like the text
18:39 messages and they literally said oh I have pictures like that too anyone could Photoshop it send better proof and I'm like but you want me to like send you a video of me sucking his dick or something like yeah yeah like that now that you mention it that's when I realized I should like I was new so I thought if I would if I could just reason with haters out but there's zero reasoning a reason to like especially K-pop stand especially K-pop stand they're actually so insane they're like cult members I was just reading one comment this morning about it and it was literally like something like uh somebody commented like oh you must need money so bad that you're going to come on here and slander and I just got I was tight I was like I don't need like I never made any money podcasting I do this for love the game I make more money than your entire family combined I don't need money from this and they're like the
19:29 fact that you don't even do this for money is alarming it must be true that like someone's paying someone paying them to bring down this person like they're thinking of it like this a conspiracy this whole podcast was set up to bring down this one K-pop Star and to give that one piece of information that we put behind a pay wall and it's like are you what people will construct anything just make their Nar it's a good theory though yeah could it's possible see people don't construct any trust me I wish I'm back in a month yeah that toally and then it's Echo chamber of those exactly Echo chamber oh my gosh and come back for part two where we say exactly who this K-pop Star is
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