0:00 [Music] Okay. What do you guys think? Um, like where do you think the line should be drawn when people play someone in a movie? Like do you think only gay guy should play a gay guy? Do you think uh like a Pakistani person shouldn't play someone Indian? Do you think British black guy can't play an American black guy? Where do you think like the lines are drawn? >> Honestly, when a British black guy plays an American black guy, I get mad. I get pissed. >> You get mad? >> I get mad. >> Why? Uh just because they do they do a really good job. >> They do a really good job when they're American. And I'm like, "God damn, I think." >> I think I think it's racist. If if you're not if you're not, you know, the black guy you're supposed to be, but but then you're UK and then you talk normal like, "Hey, pop." >> Like, >> but in the movie, you're like, "Yo,
0:50 what's good, man?" You know what I mean? I just think that's just racist. >> Like uh like remember when uh Walking Dead Rick, he's supposed to be a southern gentleman. Yeah. When I found out he's a he's a he's a brick. >> He's a wreck coat. >> Yeah, dude. >> That's that's messed up cuz >> See, everyone got bummed out right now. >> Yankee faced. >> Yeah. Yankee. >> You think a Chinese guy should play a Korean guy? If he's like a really good actor. >> That's cool. That's cool. >> Well, look, if it if it's an acting role, if you're you should if you're going to play a Korean, be a Korean. >> Yeah. Be angry. Five. >> If you're in the background, you're still background. It's like a main act main. You have you should be Korean. >> No, I don't think so. I don't think so. You think it you think it matters? >> I think it does. >> Mhm. >> Because Chinese and Koreans, >> they look at each other differently >> culturally. Do you look at me different? >> Japanese and Korean, they look at We're Americans. I don't I don't look at. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
1:40 >> What if it's a Korean-American character in a show? Is it allowed to be played by Chinese American guy? >> I don't care anymore. >> Is Steven used to care, but not anymore. Wait, you don't care anymore? Like you had an epiphany or or at that level you >> No, I'm just playing, guys. But honestly, I think I think you should if it's a Korean acting role as an American, you should be Korean. >> Okay. >> Because what if the movie is about Korean hardship and you're a Chinese dude playing a Korean the whole time? >> Yeah, >> that's whack. >> Yeah, cuz his hardship's different. >> Yeah, because cuz cult at the same time culturally it's going to be completely different, right? Like if Hans the whole time Hans everyone's like oh you know when we found out Hans was Korean we're all like ████ yeah Hans you know but
2:30 imagine he goes oh no I was Chinese the whole time >> that's a heartbreaker >> you would have been like yo >> that's cuz Koreans won't support anybody that's not Korean >> no but if you're if you're playing an just a role as an Asian dude for a movie whatnot who cares you know we're like yeah Asian dude >> oh like when you're playing a yakuza guy >> yeah like who whatever racist. You believe that Yak is a stunt guy, right? You're like getting beat up. You're supposed to be Japanese. >> Yeah. And Japanese people hated that. They're like, "Look at this Korean." >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. They know. >> Yeah. But I'm not out there trying to pretend I'm Japanese traditional thing. >> This is Japanese, dude. >> What did Did you do anything for your role? >> He did cultural traditional getting his ass kicked. >> Yeah. Did you try to like change anything about the delivery of your physicality to look more Japanese? >> Nope. I I received a choreography and then I just I was executing.
3:20 >> He's like, I died like a Japanese. How do Japanese people die versus Korean? >> I believe we're Chinese triads by >> Were you getting shot? >> Oh, you were Chinese triads. >> Were you going shot? >> I actually did that. >> Did you? That's sick. >> Out of all the pack. >> Fall. >> Out of the Chinese triads, were most of them Chinese? >> Out of the Chinese triads, were most of No, >> most Korean different Asians, >> bro. Different Asians. >> Filipino. >> Just all of us. >> I has to do a readout of what you just said to respond to it. >> A winner. >> Tape delay. No, dude. >> When Eddie Murphy played Mushu, >> I was pretty upset >> cuz he's not dragon. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for standing up. >> Yeah. >> Look at Tropic Thunder. >> Okay. So then with that thought, do you think a a straight guy can play a gay guy? >> No. >> Well, they didn't in Brokeback
4:10 Mountains. >> That's true. >> Well, they didn't have a movies, >> but they were closeted, though. >> But wasn't that like like harder because those two dudes were both straight, so it's kind of like more amazing cuz they were both acting pretty good. >> They were Yeah, dude. They were acting super when gay guys claiming that. >> Well, that's what I mean cuz like if it was gay guys, if they were both >> if they were both just gay guys, it would have been like easier to act that. >> There's no tension. They're just like super gay at the end of the movie. >> Super into it. >> Yeah. And that was cool. >> When Jake Gyllenhaal turned uh >> I can't wait for that scene. >> He turned Heath Ledger around and they started making love in the tent. I was like, >> "What the f███?" So, you watched the whole thing >> like maybe being gay is the sickest thing. >> You watch it by yourself? >> No. I started watching. She's like, "You want to watch Brokeback?" And I was like, I'm not really into this cuz I was like, isn't this movie a bummer? Don't they just get murdered at the end? Cuz that's the whole thing. >> That's what spoilers. >> I never watched it. >> Well, they get they get murdered at the end. Because the whole time and I was
5:00 watch when I was watching Brokeback Mountain, I was like half the scene like all the guys that are passing through, they're just trying to gay bash. They're just looking at gay bash and like that really makes them fired up. Like they got a lot of their boys and they're like, "We got to kill these guys cuz they're having sex in a tent." And that's pretty much the whole movie. The whole movie is just they're trying to kill them cuz they're gay. >> Yeah, they find out they're gay and then they're like, "Well, let's murder these guys." And then they get murdered at the end. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. I didn't watch the whole thing cuz once I saw that first tent scene, I was like, "That's not." >> I think I'm going to sit this one out. I'm going to go walk the dogs. >> No, that's ████ up. >> Wait, so they're gay off in the first scene? >> No, no, no. Like, like >> I mean, I'm sure they're gay, but >> I made it to the middle and then >> they're already gay. Yeah. >> He would like he would gay up. >> Oh, yeah. They turned gay. Environmentally turned gay. Heath will hand him he he'll hand Jake Gyllenhaal like a a like a a can of beans and they touch hands and they just look at each other. Come on, touch my hand and look at me weird >> like that.
5:50 >> Wait, what? >> Yeah. He'll hand him a couple beans and like that's a sexual tension. >> It's starting to You know what I mean? >> And then it escalates. >> Remember to tell Joy when he punches that black dude >> and he goes, "You hit me cuz I'm gay." He's like, "No, I punched you and it just turned out you were gay. >> I punched you. It's not a hate crime. I punched you cuz you're an ████ not cuz you were gay." For example, that one uh the one dude, one actor from Rex and Park, the Mark. >> Nailed it. >> No, you know what I'm saying? The Parks and Wreck, he has a mustache. What's his name? >> Yeah, I know who you're talking about. >> Ron Swanson. >> Ron Swanson, dude. He's hardcore man and that Rex and Park and you try to watch Last for uh >> Last of For us. >> Last for us. >> Last of >> Last for us or Last of Us. for us. >> Dude, there's a scene where Mark Swanson
6:40 >> Mark Swanson. >> He's out he's out making with another guy. >> Mark Ronson. >> You're just Mark Rosson is making out with >> Outmaking. He's out making. >> No, it's just like it's just it's just like it's just like, yo, what the hell am I watching? So, I had to set that one out. >> So, were you upset that he, you know, in his character he's not really gay and the fact that he's being a gay charact? >> I wasn't upset. I wasn't I wasn't upset that he was gay. He was playing a gay role. It was just I was upset because my whole mindset was like, "Yo, this guy's hardcore man." And I was just like, "Yeah, that's cool." >> Have you seen We're the Millers. >> He's like, "How how does a gay guy play so straight?" >> Yeah, >> he's really funny. He's really funny. We're the Millers. He's that same kind of dude. >> But I mean, like most of I feel like almost all guy actors in Hollywood are kind of gay. >> But isn't that more amazing? Like like
7:32 when somebody has to act a way that they aren't naturally. >> Yeah, that's the whole point, right? >> The whole point. Yeah. >> Like I played a Chinese character. That was so hard for me to do. >> I think you knocked out the park >> cuz I'm not Chinese. >> I know. >> No, it's just like why why make the whoever the writers? Why couldn't they just find a gay dude in the beginning? >> You know what I found was really interesting? uh in like Indian movies there you there could be like a character that you won't even know the difference of what part of India that guy's from but they they would tend to pick the same exact region for that character. So like a guy from Soul Korea for instance like from a different city if he's supposed to be from a different city they wouldn't put a guy from Soul in that character. But I think it's a crazy I think it's a population thing because like India's you have so many to choose from like there's probably an actor there's a billion people right
8:23 whereas like I think us >> it's you don't it's slim pickings like when you watch memoirs of a geisha what other Asian actor that they can't have a all Japanese cast there's not enough you got >> that are quality actors is what he's saying >> exactly >> the same Japanese dude plays what's the dude that was scorpion and and he was in the the >> show he's so good >> he's He's every Japanese character in every movie. >> Yeah, he's so good >> and everyone except >> in Japan, right? But the crossover is little and in Memoirs of Asia was a American movie, so they cast American actors. >> So that's why there's not enough Huh. >> They want to sell tickets, too. So that's >> Yeah. So they had to like starring Lucy. >> That gives you the equity to get investors depending on what names are connected. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> That's why they wanted to have Scarlett Johansson be like the trans chick and then the trans community like destroyed her over it and she's like, "Find him
9:13 out." And that movie is never getting made now >> cuz first she was Asian. >> Yeah. >> And then now she's she's always taking these roles where everyone's like, "F███ you, ████ You're not this." >> Well, isn't the craft to be something that you're not? >> Well, that's what acting is. >> I always I always think of Charlie's Throne or Theren, whatever her name is. Throne when she was in Monster, right? Like they made they did so much work to make her look like a big old ugo and cuz that's who she's playing. And everybody was like, "Yo, that's the best movie ever." Like that's the best acting performance. >> Remember Nicole Kidman and The Hours? They just put a new nose on her and she looked all like ugly and ████ and then she I think she won an Oscar for that because they're like you were ugly for like two hours. That's crazy. >> How could you do it? >> It's so But it's hard for Nicole came in to be ugly, right? >> I think the difference is if it's executed well. Yeah. >> Like if you still has to be good, right? >> Yeah. You still have to execute your part well to be >> like Emma Stone being Asian for
10:03 something doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a good movie. >> What the ████ >> That was a crazy >> believable. Be Hawaiian, was it? >> Exactly. Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's not believable. >> More of a bummer. But it's like what's happening to her in this plot if she's just Asian. It's like that's not going to escape. >> Cuz I remember when they when they did the Lilo and Stitch movie, right? The the live action one. People a lot of people were upset at the the sister that they picked cuz she wasn't like a local girl or Hawaiian chick, right? But then again, I'm like in my head, I'm like, it's probably hard to find the right person for that role. Like it's very specific. And I and I get it though cuz at the end of the day you need actors because if you don't have actors >> that one scene might cost you three days authentic actor >> a true professional >> or maybe that authentic actor for that part doesn't have the right chemistry with the other actor. >> Correct. >> And by the way by the way everybody who
10:54 cared about that movie made a billion dollars. >> Like nobody gave a ████ You know what I mean? It's just always loud people online, little little spaces, and everyone thinks it's an uproar. And it's like that movie is the first Disney remake to make a billion dollars. >> And as a Yeah. As an average movie's reading those Twitter reviews, >> dude. It's just like when Hook came out for us, it was critically panned. But we had no ████ clue. I didn't find out until I was an adult that everyone hated that movie. Really? >> Yeah. It was >> That's like my childhood. >> Me, too. But Spielberg hated it. Spielberg to this day. I guess he he gave an interview a couple years ago, but he says he regrets Hook because he just didn't think it worked. >> Isn't that crazy? It's like the greatest thing that I saw as a kid. >> Yeah, it's one of my like core meas. >> Why did that Why did they like it? Well, I've never heard negative reviews about how many ████ Filipino kids would be
11:44 in in the in that place if they got all the people without parents. >> Oh, man. >> Like there'd be all the Philippines would be in freaking uh in that land. What what what was uh what what what were like the negative reviews? But I didn't know it was if you look up like any of the reviews at the time like they just thought it was a bad move. >> Yeah. >> Like Rotten Tomatoes, it'll have chronicled all the all the critics. Cisco Neighbor I think gave it two thumbs down. >> Wow. >> I think it was like people >> but we had no clue cuz but you know you know why it was a good movie for us? It was meant for us. >> So like it's not for a ████ adult. So like they're not going to like it. Well, that's that's what I mean. >> It's like three ninjas where you look at it as a null. You're like, "Oh, this is clearly a stupid ████ movie." >> Rotten Tomatoes, it got a 29%. >> Wow. 29. >> This is news to me. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm just finding out. >> I found out later in life, too. >> Holy ████ >> No. Till this day, I could watch that
12:34 ████ like it's like, "Oh, this is a massive." >> I love that movie. I'll watch that now. Pure >> story. And it's if you if you have the ability to get lost in it. So if you're critically like analyzing it like a film that that's a this is a good reminder like for us as adults now when we see things it's like whoever this is meant for that's who should be rating it. >> Well that's what George Lucas was talking about when he talks about the prequels. He's like it's not for the adults who used to watch Star Wars. It's for the kids. >> You'll never satisfy that community. >> I know right. >> Yeah. They're like 60 years old now like so mad about a comic book >> and it's like dude you're ████ dumb man. People will find something to complain about always. >> Yeah. >> Well, look, I don't like the new Star Wars movies, the one that that they did. I don't like that ████ but >> I know maybe there's kids out there who like that ████ >> I think The Mandalorian was maybe the best. >> I mean, they have Lego Star Wars now to like
13:24 >> True. That does way better for kids. >> According to toy sales, though, I guess they're not really digging it. >> No way. Really? >> Yeah. The Toys are really bad on >> for Lego Star Wars. >> No, no, on the new Star Wars movies, the new trilogy. >> Oh, I see. Oh, that's crazy.
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