0:00 We were in Palm Springs and I swear there was something like this at this hotel we were at and it was like it was probably like 40 gay dudes all in the pool. >> Bro, they get they do work >> making out in the pool and just literally me and Tiff with like 40 gay dudes. >> So Tiff and 41 gay guys. [laughter] >> Damn. Uh, so at a few days ago, Joe had sent me this like video of these guys that were like coordinating these male getaways, like places where guys can hang with other guys, and it was like supposed to be like um like straight men fun >> already. I think there's gay stuff already. [laughter] >> Why do we have to like label it all this stuff? Can you say like, "Yo, you got the video or >> like I went on a trip with my friends. Why do we have to say like it's got to
0:51 be straight male getaway reserve?" Like now now I think it's weird. >> Specifically, this video was a flaming gay dude that was like, "We just want a space for ourselves, but they're doing macho s███." >> So it was like So then I looked it up more. I'm like, "What is it?" So I looked into this group that does it. It turns out they're all gay and they what they do is they try to bond by doing stuff that's not stereotypically gay. >> Oh. >> So they're gay guys doing straight activities. >> What if the five of us did the opposite? >> Do gay activities. >> We just go and do the gayest trip we could imagine. >> We'd have we'd have a blast. >> That would actually be pretty fun. >> Hey, what do gay dudes do to hang out? >> We all wear [laughter] like rainbow speedles. I mean speedos. And then we like roller skate down the ████ >> get our nails did whatever the ████ I don't know about all that. We get our nails done. I'm down with that. >> Yeah. What do gays do?
1:41 >> Yeah. What's a gay vacation? >> They had a colonic with each other. [laughter] >> Coffee animal with the boys. >> Do you remember that uh video that was going around for a while where there was like a men's retreat club going and it was like Costa Rica or something, right? And it's like this is where we uh go with other like-minded individuals and then there's like a gym there. There's like a there's like there's like like fighting. And I was like, "This looks really fun." And I saw all the comments and I said, "I'm not going." Because all the comments were like, "Yeah, I just want to be with all guys and be gay." And I was like, "But that looks fun though. Why you got to ruin it?" >> Oh, it was for gays. >> No, it was just >> That's the joke. >> The PE they were getting roasted, >> but like the activity looked fun. Like it really was just like a guys. But then the re the reason why it was so gay is
2:32 because they had to like what you said, they had to label it like that. They're like, >> "Yeah, retreat. I'm not going on a retreat. [laughter] >> Do you like that? >> The ████ is that? Yoga ████ go on a retreat. >> Yeah. I'm not going on a retreat. >> You like that? The idea of like, let's say that you signed up for something and you go on a trip with a bunch of dudes you've never met. You like that? >> That's what I don't like. >> Oh, I'm hoping that the dudes that I never met are cool. But >> no, they're ████ suck. >> But in reality, they're probably going to be some guys I want to beat the ████ out of, right? >> They're going to be guys like you. [laughter] You're all just getting up fighting. >> I don't want to go do ████ with strangers. >> Yeah, I don't like any of this. >> Okay, let's say it's not strangers. Is there a group outing for guys that are not gay that doesn't seem gay when you do it? >> Yeah. Like, are we just going to go
3:23 somewhere with the homies? Yeah, that's fine. >> Yeah. What are we doing now? >> Have to do any of this ████ >> bowling and ████ That's gay already. Like [laughter] with matching ████ bowling shirts. Do you all do like RV trips? Golf ████ Yeah. Any of that RV trip? Okay. With a bunch of guys. >> Yeah. I mean, we did it with one RV. Women were around, too. But me and Bar went all [laughter] have our own RV. >> Individual RV caravan. >> We're that desperate to not look gay. >> Low key. I do want to do a cross country one of those uh like in like uh Porsche 911s. You know how people go? >> Oh, you're trying to do like a like a bubblegum rally type thing. A gumball rally. Go like Vegas to Boston or some ████ Most guys trips are centered around a hobby and most women trips are centered around talking and bonding and >> so no talking at ours. >> I don't very minimal. >> Yeah, I agree. It is like a fishing golfing very minimal
4:13 >> hunting. Yeah, >> I I just hate the retreat. And going back to Joe's thing, I think that became such a trend these like retreats, but I think it was just a money milk. Yeah. >> Wellness retreats. >> Yeah. Teaching you how to be a man. Like what the ████ is that? And then like they're all wearing like puka shells and ████ Buckeye nuts around their necks. What do you say to a guy that comes to you and asks Silent Mike, I would like you to teach me how to be a man. >> I'll say, "Bro, I'm not the guy." >> And then there's like 50 dudes hugging each other and crying. >> Yeah. I [laughter] don't like all that. You and I, >> what if what if let's say you got you got in trouble and the court sentenced you to community service and you end up having to teach 30 guys how to be men. What do you do? >> What's the lesson one? >> ████ pay your bills. >> We we do find a way. That's like the most manished ████ you could do. >> Get your credit score up. >> Quit ████ crying and talking about mental health. How about get a job and ████ pay ████ >> I would say something like that where
5:04 where you're going to build a foundation of some habits and confidence somehow like real confidence like getting ████ done, doing some hard ████ >> But a lot of people conflate confidence with arrogance because they don't really get that. Like some people even think stoicism is suppression of emotions. They don't actually understand what it means to be like, "Oh, this is you're going to face adversity and you have to overcome it." >> Suppressing your emotions is actually a good thing. I think >> I think in times I I do think there's a difference between acting on emotion and suppressing emotion, right? So, you can not let the emotion take over your decision making. Yeah. Impulse control, which is like the first thing you teach a dog. >> Yeah. Rather than kind of rather than like forgetting about it. But I think there's a time to be alone and cry. >> What time is that? After you make after you make a Yeah. on the retreat with the boys. [laughter] >> After you make the right decision based
5:55 on what needs to get done, >> then I can go by myself and go take a shower and drop some tears >> where no one can tell. >> At least that's how I move through like stoicism type ████ Like what happen? What needs to happen right now for the best outcome for whatever time and place, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. And then tonight when this craziness is done, I can go cry my little heart out. That I wasn't ready for that. >> Yeah. Cuz like let's say in a time of crisis, you can't have a crash out. So you do have to suppress your emotions at the moment >> and or even control it. >> So like are people saying you shouldn't do that? You got to cry it out. Women and children are ████ suffering and screaming and ████ you know? Like >> if you go by the internet, you're done for it cuz literally 50%'s telling you like guys need to cry more. Like we really love guys with emotion. And the [snorts] other one's like I'm looking for more masculine men. Like where are the mas like ████ which one you want? >> You got to be careful with crying in front of your chick too much. [laughter] >> Where's They'll leave you ████ [cough]
6:47 >> Yeah. But where's the line? >> Yeah, there's there's it's I think it's a pretty strong line. And it's like, you know, you do it twice in a week, you you got to cut back. Something better be happening. >> You can't cry more than they do. >> Exactly. [laughter] >> Yeah. That's a good rule. That's a good rule. >> Make her cry every time you want to cry. >> Every one for two. Yeah. It's probably everyone for two. You got to keep score. You got to keep your tallies up. You know, you got to mark off. >> It feels like it's like a It's like a primal unattraction that takes precedence over their, I guess, cognitive opinion that they don't mind if you cry. You know, like a woman that's like, "No, I want you to cry." It's like you do, but when you see it, you're not gonna feel. >> Then you went, "F███ the pool boy." Yeah, exactly. Like it's like carnally, you're not gonna like it anymore. >> That can be a red flag, you know? >> I feel like, you know, like in every relationship, there's kind of like the feminine energy and masculine. I feel like even with two gay dudes, >> if the assumed more masculine one starts
7:38 crying, even the feminine gay dude like, "Stop ████ crying all the time. [laughter] But whatever whatever these retreats, outings or whatever, every single time I've been to like a group, camp, seminar, I ████ loved it, man. >> And like, >> but I'm usually with the core group of people that I know, we go together. Yeah. >> Like whether it be like a an event or a seminar or an outing where I might know I might not know like 80% of the people there. I never go alone, but I really have a good ████ time. The only time I think would be like um when I joined a karate club, I didn't know nobody there, but I became friends with people and then we would have these like camps where they would rent out dorms at universities and it was like I don't know. It was like fun. It was >> karate camp. >> Yeah, it was like a fun little karate
8:28 camp. >> I don't know if I ever done anything like that. >> You never went to >> any type of retreat or any type of that stuff >> like when I was young like basketball camps. >> Yeah, stuff like that. So, imagine doing that as an adult. >> Yeah. I don't know if I've done anything as an adult like that. like work trips. Like if Bart and I would go film and we'd get like an Airbnb and we'd be traveling for like a week. That ████ is fun. >> Imagine that but like a bigger group. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know if I've ever done anything else though. >> I think now's your time to do it. Mike's going to start his own ████ challenge, dude. >> Yeah. It's only 10,000 bucks to come hang out with me for a weekend. >> And he's going to teach you how to get lean. >> Have you ever like run into other guys that are doing that out in the wild? Like in the world? You ever seen another retreat happening? Not like uh Oh, in Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. There's hella like >> You see it, right? Like groups. >> Yeah. But so there's different kinds cuz you have like the business conference
9:19 people where they're kind of like work tripation stuff. >> Those are the guys you can call gay. >> I actually like those more than the the yoga ones. >> But you do see like the more like woo woo yoga spiritual crystal ones. >> But I think Hawaii is a big destination for those kind of like conventions. >> What is it? Uh what's the movie? Couples retreat. >> Yeah. I always just think of ████ like that. I'm not trying to get involved with anything like that. >> Retreat [laughter] >> like that. But all dudes, like I'm good. >> That one's supposed to be what like marriage therapy or >> and it gets all woo woo and it's in some kind of island. >> I like the ones that are like instead of going to an uh I don't know like a office for this business seminar. It's like a fun workation balance where you go to a destination and then maybe you're doing something boring like learning accounting or some ████ but at the same time you get to have fun ████ when you like finish that seminar.
10:10 >> Yeah. At school we do stuff like that like fat ropes courses and stuff for like team bonding. >> Yeah. >> You know, you get like a little adrenaline going and then everyone kind of, you know, you kind of take everyone's if everyone's a little bit scared, you kind of learn and bond. >> That's a good retreat. If you go and do a really challenging physical like scary thing, that's pretty fun. >> Yeah, I think that stuff's really important. >> If if again like teaching a dude to be a dude, that would be a part of it somehow. >> But there's like all of these man camps now, right, where like people are like so detached from their masculinity and I'm all like >> I want to be an observer because on video it looks so ████ hilarious, >> but like I don't even have anybody in my circle that's even close to needing to go there or wanting to go there. I know. It's a weird concept to me. >> So, I'm like, >> since the world is so different, it makes me curious what it's like.
11:01 >> Yeah. To me, yeah. I I would be a fly on the wall there, too. Just on Instagram and ████ it just seems like a money grab. >> You're just grabbing impressionable dudes who feel lost, you know, get them in your man cult with Iawaska or something. >> Is that a thing these days? A lot of people going to like these man camps like find themselves. >> I don't know if it's a thing. >> I've seen retreats like that. I've seen a good amount >> cuz you know I think a lot of people especially I see a popular in like the male entrepreneur space where guys are like you know if you want to take yourself to the next we're going to ice bath together then we're going to journal together. >> Yeah. And then we're going to do some hearts and then we're going to do the Navy Seal training stuff. >> To me it looks like a bunch of sheltered boys that's never had it like hard and they want like a man to like kick their ass and make them a man. >> There's some that are straight like that where I think it's just Navy Seal camp. Here's here's the thing Joe sent me where he's trying to sell me on going to this thing with him. >> Where is it? Euseite. >> Don't like the hollow gay culture.
11:52 That's why I created the straight acting brotherhood, an exclusive members club network. Masculine men were into men. We recently had a retreat in Bali and we all lived in a luxury villa. We went with the ATVs in the jungle. And we also sat down [music] all together and talked about our personal stories, our struggles just like a family. Common brotherhood to join us during our next trip. I like boys, but I don't like the whole >> So I you you know these guys you know these guys are crushing too. >> They ████ each other all day. So they're all gay. >> Yeah. It's for men who like men. >> Do don't you think life would be more fun if you were a a a single straight gay? I mean if you see if you're a single gay male cuz you you have business buddies but you also suck them off. That's true. >> That's a it's it's a perk for sure. We were in Palm Springs and I swear there was something like this at this hotel we were at and it was like it was probably like 40 gay dudes all in the pool and
12:42 they all knew each other. They all came together and then we started talking to one of them >> and um they were he was just telling me all the dudes he ████ in this group and I was like tight dude >> bro they get they do work >> making out in the pool and just literally me and Tiff with like 40 gay dudes. >> Palm Springs, right? Isn't Palm Springs and Cruises Tiff and 41 gay guys? [laughter] >> Damn. Yeah, >> this this gay guy was like, "You know why we're so successful?" And I was like, "Why?" Cuz it's true. Gay dudes, they ████ make money. Is it because you don't have kids? No. It's because we have no shame in sucking and ████ climbing the ladder. >> What? [laughter] I was like, >> "What if there's no ladder? >> What if it's a straight ladder?" >> Well, I guess the only way it goes down, right? >> Find a way, dude. >> Yeah, they are the the highest what is it? Like highest earning, most happiest households, least divorce rate. Killing
13:32 it. Killing it. >> Lucky, lucky, man. >> Gay guys and then straight people and then lesbians at the very bottom. >> This funny, right? Lesbians make the least money. Gay guys make the most money. Gay guys, they they they ████ a lot. Lesbians ████ the least. >> Cuz you take what's good and you just doubled it. >> Yeah. >> Gay. >> True. ████ for life. [laughter] >> Honestly, I think we should switch teams, brothers. >> Lesbian high the divorce rate. Gay. We've hit the ceiling. It's time to go gay. >> Tons of fights all day. Constant fights. Both people don't know what to eat. [laughter] >> They're just hungry all the time. >> Oh, and it's kind of like what Dati told us. High domestic [laughter] value. >> Yeah, that's very true. Oof.
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