0:00 [Music] well i saw people say thank god they lost luna now we got three more years of jk news they didn't say that and that's right it's really fun that's cool who's the best song okay here we go welcome back to careful boys where we are indeed very careful boys you're super careful so today we wanted to talk about i mean dude you know there's been a humbling moment that has happened lately um for a lot of us oh no um but you were planning on pivoting like like out of dance like early as you were you were talking about that with us and like you were like moving like in that direction now you're going back into dance it would you say that like or like how has that transition been for you and and
0:51 what's um weird about it for you and what how do you process like everything that's going on wow that's a loaded question um let's let's maybe give some context on why i even thought about like kind of like yeah yeah i'm a little too aware because i was yeah yeah because we were like talking like well what's the boil down question well i think i think one of the things was adding anthony's like i'm like 39 every time i dance my phone's ████ my bones cracking and ████ 36. you got like two more years these young cats like doing the moves that only he dreams he could do so he's like oh ████ vigorous tick-tockers he can't save the rec center with his body okay so [Laughter] okay so uh unlike uh silent mike's point of view so dance is like also a sport right that's okay yeah which means that you
1:42 know ████ you son we are also like in essence like athletes but i think that there's a downside to that right it's just like watching you can see uh just like in the nba right once the older players that they might have experience but they might not necessarily have the same physicality or the ability or or even just just that youth to be able to continue at the same pace like right now right exactly like even like the older you get the more you have to warm up or the more you have to cool down and stretch or like the more you're sore the next day right and both in body and spirit too totally because a young basketball player like his the will of lineup winner championship is also there yeah steph so has that yeah versus if you have like i don't know two kids that are 13 you might be like this is to pay for their college or seven kids like lebron yeah yeah but yeah that is a huge thing too because like if you're um if you just
2:33 got opportunities in your career for like the first couple years you're really hyped but if you've been doing similar opportunities for like let's say like 13 years you're desensitized to those opportunities you're not thinking yourself every day like oh my god i'm so grateful i can dance you're thinking to yourself like oh snap like how much time do i have left you know so i think um with the pandemic we also went through a lot of like hard ships of the business you guys already know like we closed the studios we had to pivot in so many different ways i stopped almost all my work in china because like country relations and politics kind of play and like we can't go there without like ████ uh uh formal visas and invitations from the government how big of your guys's income would you say was like from overseas i mean that doesn't have to be dollar amount but like percentage-wise or something yeah it's hard to say you guys because i think that there's so many elements to answer that question for the individuals and the group but let's say
3:23 for myself i would i would honestly say like honest at least fifty percent minimum and i think that's reflective you guys know too that's reflective of also my time right yeah for sure like most of my time even when i was like like i've been doing jk news since you guys started but i was only here whenever i had a pocket until i really heard very much i was here when you know you weren't here before you you weren't here he was here whenever we couldn't find another guest yet that's true yeah you were here when we wanted someone to play a gay guy he was here you're here for what 12 hours before me i was here for like ████ 2700 hours and that's when the ████ started going down and everybody started quitting and so they had because i think the energy was well because of me and then when i came on things started picking up and there's like regular the vibes cool yeah another fusion more than ever yeah that's crazy dancers brought all the sentiment in a lot of logic practicalities alien to the audience and
4:13 made people worse otherwise everybody would have thought this was just a republican group that sports trump another dancer you know that's not no i think that's like really cool and i think that you were really thankful for what we're doing now the dancers are here that people throwing pain on the car they're like why did you leave it to the dancers i mean you know it's crazy you deserve it you made us all lose on luna 50 of your income gonzos i made you lose yeah that's a huge thing i told you to cash out don't even start on omg with these guys you know i mean two two fails right let's see i can't believe we're still friends omg omg was the first time the first part of the bear market in the bull market the first one that went that multiply ████ [Laughter] i couldn't have got to a million if not for omg thank ████ for that but also ████ omg thank god i dumped that piece of ████ it's like a doll or something now dude it's like no it's like no it's like two
5:03 whatever the ████ it is it's still more valuable still more valuable than boba which is it's actual use case boba yeah but nobody's even heard of it it's a slayer to use case nobody ████ even knows about that because they diluted the shares for all the people who are holding it omg up completely a complete trader took a piece of ████ is still trading better than boba hey ████ you bobatards you guys are honestly the dumbest ████ maybe ever i can't believe you're still holding that piece of ████ i i turned i turned eighteen thousand dollars into a ████ 1.2 million dollars you guys were all holding bags of ████ during the whole bear market i still cashed out more than you pulling bags of ████ holding bags of ████ ████ leaking out of the bottom breaking with ████ following you guys wanted to take the ████ home you stupid ████ i want to see a movie that's like wolf of wall street just with steve crypto style
5:54 i just you know i'm not ████ going anywhere bro i haven't even i barely put 20 grand into crypto i've done 735 and i'm 1.2 mil and dude i'm sitting here with six figgies in the bottom of the bear ████ watch what i do next if you don't wanna hit two i will and guess what i'll write it to ████ zero that's what i do ████ and i'm following with you we're doing it again and guess what we're not cashing out again better that's the moment and i'm writing this to 0. so back to anthony anthony i no longer remember pandemic happened 50 of your income's gone out the window you're aging man can't dance like the new geriatric human being i really like that word mm-hmm yeah he
6:44 said a lot today it's very good and and uh you know the the the cove pandemic just kind of brought on a lot of like business problems and like that's always been a lot of the trade-off right like to try and be like as the best version of your artist and creative self as possible you know what i mean like literally just choreographing or dancing whatever but then still also having to have the right type of mindset or like focus and attention in like the business side and things that we're not doing so well right like handling of landlords while closing this spot you know working through i don't even want to go into the ████ up details of it but um or on the other side like trying to build a noodle company and pivot because like dance was cut out you know what i mean so many other elements came into play and i got also really lucky with certain things right i got to be able to like anchor myself into like this place which is like totally like a second home and a
7:34 family to me as well you know and like being able to be present and available for jk all the time while also starting up things like season two of the kindest podcast where like we're hosting and producing it out of my own home so i'm putting so much of my like personal self into it i started having like and that's crazy to think that i was like a part of and became like one of the the co-hosts of like this show plus like the podcast it's like suddenly i started even seeing opportunities for my own like future that didn't necessarily have to anchor itself in like dance and i wanted to um one maybe listen to the universe right like oh yeah the universe is literally being like stop ████ dancing and do all this other ████ and handle all this other ████ but then two it was also be a shoemaker sell noodle shoemaker shoemaker come on a talk show where
8:24 everyone s████ on you every day i love that the shoe is ████ nike by the way does a nike shoe get ████ on my stick look he's a cobbler at the end of it with ████ nails and a hammer to boil it all down to being a cobbler ask me a question let's let's talk about the truth it's ████ ████ shining shoes and repairing um so so uh yeah i think um that plus and let's let's be real like we ████ like got super super into like luna and crypto doing all this stuff too and we're ████ killing it we're killing it it's so difficult sickest run-up ever ever so the worst run down ever dude i i would have cashed out and i was like are you gonna cash out nope and i'm like well i'm not either
9:14 cause all of us wanted to go ████ 10x again the best part is like we got a 2 000 right like because i was buying a five or whatever so we got two thousand percent and and i'm like and my brother's like hey are we gonna cash this out and i was like we should need another 5x you got two thousand percent bro what the ████ is your problem that's so funny dude that's just you know what i mean and so like you can't that's the human part about it right it's the same thing even though it's ████ in hindsight two thousand percent why the ████ did we not do xyz because it's called greed there it is there it is but when you're in it that also you know like um well you do fake logic too it's like dude that's what i'm saying and the ratios we're killing bitcoin so hard this whole time when bitcoin was at 69 000 the all-time high we were at ████ forty dollars and
10:05 then we went to 119 so wait till bitcoin gets back there and the ratios we're going to be and we were like all season hasn't hit maturity yet doesn't matter although i have to say bitcoin dominance as an indicator was pretty sick i just should have listened to it like 30 going into the 30s it did and it skidded into the 30s for seven months that's not good enough for you bro come on we're really just talking to ourselves yeah but really that like um you know that that changes a lot of your perception on what life maybe could be so i think i started getting caught up uh in allowing kind again like the natural momentum in my head that i may be constructed i'll be honest with you of like that momentum of like oh maybe this is kind of your time to not focus so much on dance because
10:57 we're all millionaires so what's the what's the ████ point of doing this we were millionaires for a very very short period of time it's awesome i am still on paper by the way don't you forget that i am too technically because of real estate but videos about me guys if we could bring it back i would love to not talk about that so that kind of happened and uh obviously everybody knows that the lunar crash happened but more than even just the crash like i also you know still endured and had to like go through even more similar crashes yeah if you will uh man will you guys cut a lot of corners on the noodles no it has nothing to do with the noodles oh there's nothing to do the noodles are doing good okay that was a guess the noodles are doing well and stuff like that you know what i mean but yeah just just other complications like life complications life
11:48 complications with business and stuff um and the funny thing is when almost uh again even with luna when everything is gone and luna's like no longer the crypto in general is kind of like all right cool we don't really have that and then the business stuff you know what i mean is going really really tough too and like things like i'm losing a lot in different ways you suddenly find yourself in this really humble position and then you think about what you actually have what the ████ are you laughing at it's killing me dude i ████ hate this guy no i just noticed something up there continue nick is killing me sorry sorry so you find yourself in this really humble position where um you feel like you kind of don't really have anything else so you start thinking to yourself what do i actually have that like no one can take away from me that i can like use right now that's guaranteed that i i'm in control of myself and the irony is that you know
12:40 it just falls right back to dance for myself you know what i mean like no matter what no matter where i'm at and everything that i put into my my my skill and my networks and my you know my relationship building with people or just the industry in general it's kind of like i guess i could just pick that back up and go right back into it and like put time and energy into it and really you know not i'm i wouldn't say i was so far out that it's like giving it a second go by any means but rather just revitalizing the the the energy and the motivation to do it um like even during the height of crypto stuff you were still i think if i were to be honest with it though i think a lot you know when you get into a flow of doing something for so long yeah some things become maintenance right i feel like a lot of energy felt like maintenance okay and i think that's also yeah towards that and that's probably also why for at least my like close fans
13:31 who like really follow me you'll realize that like i even stopped posting on social media because i just lost the that uh expressive kind of element to like what i wanted to share with my craft and stuff like that and not lost it like it's all gone and like everything is depressing or anything it was just one of those moments where i was like i'm not in this right now and i need to like listen to kind of that intuition and vibe out otherwise that maintenance of kind of thing will hold on to me and i'm just i'm just going through the motions you wanted to shed it yeah did you ever um dance just for the fun of it anymore because if you know how when something becomes a profession you don't even touch it anymore you know what's crazy it was actually two days ago on wednesday that i for the first time uh i had charlie come over my spot and i was like hey man i just want to have a creative session and i want to choreograph to a song that is not work related it's not for the youtube channel
14:22 you had him come over for that reason or he came over and then it's been that i haven't come up for that reason that's dope you're just like let's have a session we used to do it all the time literally every day when we were living in orange county we go to quest learning center which is in artesia and like back in the day we would show up in the morning but hey what time you're gonna get there boom that's it every day we'd show up smoke bowl eat some food and then we would just go into session it was always freestyles in the morning and then we would create and like that was just the flow and that was honestly one of my happiest times in my entire dance journey because it was um also we weren't like hella known or successful by any means so it was very easy oh actually actually charles had ████ won abdc but i wasn't at all in that limelight i had not gone on a tv show so it was just really easy for us to just do it for the fun but on this past wednesday it was the first time i had choreographed or tried to choreograph for myself and that's the
15:12 hardest part right you give me an assignment it's easy it's like um the confines when's it due what's the song how many artists uh what's the style what are you looking for during the hook is it a catchy move give it this influence wear this blah blah give me these the parameters and the assignments give me a thousand details and it's just it's like an escape room it's just finding out what makes sense considering all those things give me a blank canvas when i'm not practiced and you're just chopping at yourself the whole ████ time which is also um yourself you hate everything second guessing all your so you're just standing there and going like ████ you can't pop and long you can't lock it worse than that get a whole eight count or two eight counts in do it and then throw the whole thing away oh man and then and that's why i got into golf i could relate to that because even like when we were writing skits when you were
16:03 trying to write something like okay like writing parodies are easy right okay this is what everyone likes or this style or whatever well that was a hitter so let's do another one just like that that's easy because it's almost it removes the burden and responsibility of trying to express your true self but then when you're like okay cool now it's time to write for myself this represents the inside of me all of a sudden it's like really like vulnerable and then you do have a oh and it's going in a way that's not really like me anymore you cut that off and you rip that paper so i i relate to it and nick was even just talking about this too where it's like same thing with like fighting right when you're young you're just like i'm a ████ fight yeah yeah you don't really think about munching but sometimes that's the kind of like the attitude that you need to get in there just that like that naivety actually is helpful that child like wonder you know what i mean when you ████ become a geriatric ████ adult that's not necessarily in practice or in
16:53 flow all the time you come back to something and you got all these dumbass adult thoughts you know what i mean it's so ████ just like what what about this like how do i do this how do i finish it with this ears worries and doubts what about my time like you know when am i supposed to handle this other responsibility am i ████ ████ my time up right now because blah blah how are people gonna feel about what i've done because i haven't done anything in a long time you started doing these dumb ass adult things as a creative and it blocks you like crazy you know um i had a great session even though nothing got finished but i think it's it's kind of like working out right just because you have a bad workout doesn't mean that was bad for you yeah sometimes you just got to do it right so i feel like that's kind of where i'm at and and that's ironically part of the joy but you have a you feel like a muscle memory right like it's like obviously because you you can get back
17:44 to your mean right get back to your basics which is really cool totally like obviously like you know obviously yeah you were away from it for a while but then you snapped back into it and like but you said i never really left yeah i think i was like kind of checking out yeah it's different you probably needed it but it was very mental like because i still had to dance every week i just wasn't doing it for me i did it like i missed it's almost embarrassing to say and i don't know how many people you know who were inspired by the dance journey if they heard this they'd be like what the ████ but it's like i haven't gotten up to session out of the passion and joy and love for dance for myself music's just sick as ████ and i'm just like yo let me ████ get up and vibe i haven't done that in months because like i don't feel it but i don't think to myself that's a sadness i just feel like i'm in a different place in my life and dance is a different i have a different
18:34 relationship with it i mean it's like it's like professional chefs i'll oftentimes just go home and eat a bowl of rice because they're cooking all day you know when it becomes your profession and you do it for over a decade your approach to it is completely different than when you're sessioning at the park with your friends yeah and i think one of the hardest things to like admit to yourself too especially on something that has like defined you right both in career and image so many people like associate every aspect of that with you right to admit to yourself like hey i love this but right now i'm not in love with it you know what i mean that's so difficult because it's so so attached to everything that is your core being or at least like what you've built or society's helped you build and that perception so um but i can at least acknowledge and accept that now and i think that journey is also part of the maturity and the relationship is exactly what it is a
19:24 relationship it's not it's gonna be perfect and uh i i think right now if anything part of the journey is figuring out how to fall back in love with it you know what i mean i can't i can't honestly again i don't have i'm not checked out now and i don't i've never like fully left the game at all i've always been in the game but now it's a matter of trying to like find my way back for the reasons that are more on my own terms and i think that's also cool too because i think one of the things that was like ████ me up also is you go with the flow of ████ right and one of the flows in in our life especially the way that we have to do our hustle and bustle is things like social media so once social media changed like things like tick tock and the way that even dance was perceived suddenly even we myself and kids we got into a flow we're like cool let's start doing these short form tick tocks and blah blah maybe we'll do these challenges because that's where the world's going blah blah and suddenly you find yourself like weeks later in this place where you're
20:15 like uh the ████ am i doing you know it's not wrong there's nothing wrong with that mad respect to everybody plays that game we're just in a different time of life right it's like the og's looking at us when we first started youtube when youtube started it they're looking at us like the ████ dude you guys aren't the truth you know what i mean but it's just yo i don't know we were just using the platform that was given to our generation you know and the same thing is happening now but now because like i was kind of checked out now i'm checking back in i feel like as a more grown adult with all the problems of like having the adult thoughts i also have the pros of being able to come in maybe i'm more on my own terms the way i like it the way i want to do it the music i want to do it too and whether success comes or not from that in the same way did in the past like ████ all like it really doesn't matter because you start to realize the things that you want to value in your life you're going to
21:05 protect that everything else is just noise anyway right like we can never control where it's going we can only control like how we're doing it is all seems like a fresh start in a weird way how did that what did dancers do when they ████ agree they go like this right they go like this this is props thank you this means like uh props alive with that what do dancers do when they cut corners on the noodles couldn't let them have it couldn't let him wrap it up oh you guys gave that one [Music] you
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