0:05 Welcome back to Careful Boys. Today we're talking dope ass police stories. >> Dope [laughter] ass police stories. >> Dope ass police stories. >> Yep. So, we're all going to go around the room and get >> How many years did you um did you have to do the patrolling and the like kind of like the entry level like that stuff before you became SWAT and all that? So I was on patrol for about nine years before I went to SWAT. >> Is that how long like you have to or is that when you made the decision? >> That's when I made the decision. Um right now when I when I tested you had to have five years minimum on to test for SWAT. Now it's three years minimum. They're lowering the the requirements at least in our agency to get more interest because not everyone wants to be SWAT anymore. >> Like the interest is very low. And that's not only a department thing,
0:55 that's a nationwide thing. I I teach nationwide with my company and I go teach other SWAT teams, you know, tactics and and stuff like that. I teach at a lot of conferences and just uh just last year I was in Indianapolis and what a ████ ████ city. But uh >> what >> talking about Naptown? >> I was actually in Carmel, so just north of so which was really really nice I thought. But uh anyways, um >> do you think there's like a like a pussification of the country? Because I feel like because there's like less people want to do gung-ho ████ less people want to do hard ████ Like before I think when we're growing up, like in our era where we watch ████ like Chuck Norris or Arnold Schwarzeneg, like action movies, every kid I knew wanted to do hard ████ >> And it feels like when you like put out a job description nowadays, like kids would be like, "What the ████ No, I don't want to do hard ████ Give me the
1:46 easy s███." >> But you I I blame YouTube and social media. >> Really? >> We're the problem. We're the problem. [laughter] because you're like, "Holy ████ I can just I can sit on a couch and just talk about ████ and make a ████ ton of money. I don't got to do ████ anything. I don't got to be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Chuck Norris." >> Yeah, we ████ up, >> you know? So, >> that's true. >> Be a streamer, make 10 mil. >> I I think you guys are on the right ████ track, you know? You know, it's kind of like if my kid gets into sports or anything like that, like >> I want to train be a kicker, you know? Longevity and lots of money. Like, you're gonna be on a team forever. Remember Gary Anderson back in the day? a ████ single ████ crossbar across and that dude kicked him. He was like 50 years old. >> That's crazy. >> Adam Vinitary, dude. He was 45 when he retired. >> So ████ Janikowski for the or what was his name for the Raiders? Sebast Yeah. >> And uh but uh so there there is a it
2:37 seems that the standard is lower in law enforcement now due to the applicants. Now, it's not all applicants, but then it's also skewed in this in this I guess this social experiment that we're talking about out loud here of what are the variables and the variables are being that every generation thinks that they're better than the up and cominging generation. So, of course, we think as a current generation that the generation below us is is a bunch of ████ and a bunch of nothing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. which that could be that could be true but it but for the most part it's kind of not true because we see quality candidates come up but then we also see the candidates who come up in the academy like hey why'd you want to be a cop like well I was a barista yesterday and I figured well let's try this out >> like let's just try >> I wanted to be a cop since I saw the movie Ghostbusters
3:27 >> like that was my that's like >> you know they're not cops right >> I [laughter] know but >> just making sure >> just like I remember watching that as a kid and I was like I thought like who are you going to call? I was like I want them to call on me. Like I want to be the guys they come across like then when like uh like when they first like in Ghostbusters like I'm getting goosebumps. I was thinking about it like when the when the door rolls up and they got the the ecto machine there and they got the music playing and the and the siren goes off. I was like oh get it again and uh it's like it's ████ amazing. They're driving fast to get to a situation at the end of the movie when, you know, Bill Murray's like slightly like, "Come on, let's run some red lights." And they play the uh Saving the Day by the Alissi brothers, you know? I was like, "Oh my god." Like I was like, "That is a legit scene. That's like a core scene memory." I was like, "Let's go ████ ████ some ████ up and go save some people." And that was like
4:18 my >> I saw that same movie and I was like, I'm gonna be a tuber scum comedian, brother. >> Oh yeah. [laughter] So you you went the other way with it. But uh [clears throat] but that that was that was my thing and that's like seems to be like you know the Chuck Norris Arnold Schwarzenegger like you were talking about like there was always something that influenced you to do it but now it's just like like yeah I'll try it out. Why not? >> Do we just not have those same influences today? >> I don't know. You know what? I don't know. Like they don't make movies the action movies aren't the same as they used to be. >> That's true. >> Yeah. It's still Tom Cruz doing >> it's still Tom Cruz who's a badass but like the closest we got was Liam Niss. >> We don't got no Ramos and stuff though. Like we don't have >> that was like the last good action movie in a while, right? Taken. >> Oh, it's Yeah, Taken was legit. So, it was um but that was Liam Niss and But there's no Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Salones, ████ John Claude Vanam. >> It's what's his name now? The running
5:08 man guy. What's his name? >> He's He's kind of a metrosexual to me, so I don't It doesn't work. >> He doesn't make you want to go do hard ████ >> No. >> No. He's He's wanted me to be a ████ cowboy chasing tornadoes. That's what he wanted me to do. [laughter] >> Yeah. Tom Hardy. Yeah. Not >> Tom Hardy has it. He's dope, but he's getting ████ movies. >> Venom 3 and ████ >> He's a jiu-jitsu guy, too. >> He's constantly at jiu-jitsu competitions and he's he's bad. >> So, yeah, >> he just loves money, I think. [laughter] >> That's that's that's true. But, uh there's no >> Yeah, we don't have like action heroes anymore. >> No, that is that is true. >> Arnold Schwarzenegger was truly the last action hero. >> Great movie, by the way. Great movie. >> Honestly, slept on movie. >> Yeah. such a meta movie. We >> got into We got into an era of like hyper realism, you know, watching ████ like Lone Survivor or like American
5:59 Sniper, which is like dope, but it's like, yeah, but it's depressing dope. Like, it's not going to inspire you to go join. >> I don't want to go through go down that path. >> Yeah, like all my friends are dead and then I'll like I'll come home and just commit. >> I want a guy that never runs out of bullets. >> Yeah. >> I want, you know, I want a guy where like the bad guys are so easy to beat. >> So, G never even got punched in movies. He's like, I'm not getting punched. I'm not a ████ How what a ████ downfall that is. Like how do you go from Steven Cigal like badass to a joke? [laughter] >> Yeah, >> he's not a joking rusher, brother. >> Dude, like if I can I mean if he was here he'd do this and you do a flip. >> So, but you know he is the best at best. >> He's wearing like Chinese clothes all day [laughter] >> with a wig on. >> Yeah. With the crazy widow's peak. >> Guy is crazy. >> You could see his wig. >> I own So I own like this much Steven Seagal movies if you stack them all together. Like I I I kept buying him
6:50 because I just find him to be the funniest action hero. And in all the new ones, which he comes out with a new one like every single year, but in all the new ones, they don't even um capture him fighting with light on him, it's all back lit shadow. >> And then like he like loses like 30 lbs like like from like when they cut to him and then they cut to his stunt double in the shadow. Like it's crazy. Like it's so inconsistent. I love him. >> Yeah. We we don't have the same type of influences of machismo, you know, like that gets people. >> John Claude Vanam. >> Yep. >> Also though, like I mean not >> but he was a metrosexual. >> Not like vicious or or anything like that, but like the the rallying cry of like a terrorist attack like 9/11 that inspired people to like want to take up that kind of like role. Like >> if if everything gets like super kind of
7:41 safe on our turf for a long time, Yeah. going to breed like pacification of our nation. >> So, yeah. Well, there there's there's a saying that uh it's not my saying, but it says that uh >> good times make hard or whatever. Soft men, weak men make soft men. I don't know. I know what you're talking about, but I don't know the quote. >> Soft men make men hard. [laughter] >> But every You're right. Every generation, it's like so like World War II vets, they were made fun of by the World War I vets. >> Yeah. And then like D is every generation's like you guys are ████ we used to have to do trench warfare you guys doing like >> we were getting gassed you know and so every generation >> that be like dude I just stand in front of a cannon you know for revolutionary like my general told me just stand in line and get shot if you go down that sucks if you don't shoot back >> the ████ drummer guy would get shot
8:32 >> yeah he's like this is my position >> they didn't have opium or whatever they just got their arm cut off or whatever that was it was got to take turns ████ shooting like I got to shoot. Not yet. It's their turn. >> I heard Stallone say that he thought it all started. See, this is him b███████ about the new stuff. Uh when Michael Keaton was cast as Batman because Michael Keaton was not yolked or jacked or anything and he just put on a a muscle suit and then they're like he's Batman and Stallone was b███████ about that cuz he's like that's not like how it should go. >> You can make the same argument but like like ████ Jackie Chan great ████ action star. Jet Lee from ████ phenomenal action star. Um, but they're not yolked by anything, but they'll ████ whoop all our asses right here, you know, type thing. But, um, Chris Tucker, great action star, [laughter] you know. So, yeah, Rush Hour is some of my favorite movies.
9:22 >> I mean, Bruce Willis came in and he did the vulnerable action hero, right, with Die Hard. >> Yep. So, action hero from there, which it's not a Christmas movie. >> Yes, it is. It's a Christmas movie. >> I do feel like though >> I only watch it in December. >> Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho. It's a Christmas movie. >> The new generation though thinks about their options and long long-term things in in ways where I never thought of at their age. Like I never thought of like work life balance at ████ 18 years old. Like they're thinking about like eh I could make more doing something else. >> It's cuz they have so much more access to information that we never had. >> Yeah. They have like 50year-old thoughts at 18 without the 50-year-old experience. So, it's almost like when you're eighth in eighth grade thinking about like what classes you're going to take as a senior, but you're like you're not even in high school, so you're having imaginary thoughts. That's my take on it. I'm like, you guys are actually
10:13 hallucinating. You know what I mean? It's like imagining like, oh, but if I had a billion dollars, this is how I would spend it. I'm like, but you don't even have a million, so you literally don't even know what you're talking about. >> You just don't like Die Hard cuz all the SWAT guys get smoked. [laughter] >> It's a fact. Send in the car. send in the car. Immediately smoked with the bazooka, by the way. >> Immediately smoked. But uh yeah, it's no action stars. >> But um you said nationwide a lot of people don't want to do SWAT. What do they want to do? Like the a detective or is there anything where it's like beyond patrol? That's >> from what I've experienced, what I've seen, and who I've talked to nationwide is that people want to do behind the desk. They want to do >> cyber crime ████ do paperwork >> like recruiting and backgrounds, >> but who are they going to recruit if
11:03 they're if the everyone's a recruiter [laughter] >> and you get recruiters who haven't they've been on the road or been a cop for a year or two and they're not even they don't even really know anything. They're trying to recruit people. It's like, dude, you need the jacked out stud behind that recruiting table to to attract, you know, that type of thing. But, >> um, but it's I don't know. It's just a it's just a plague that's nationwide that's just the the quality of candidates are just just lower. >> Have you ever had a tough day being a cop and you're like the badge is ████ heavy today? >> The badge is heavy. >> Heavy lies the badge today. It's >> you know. >> You ever wanted to throw your badge in a lake? >> No, [laughter] because then it involves a lot of paperwork and everything else and you know >> and he jumped back. No, I changed my mind. >> No, I need it. I need it. You know, kind of like the scene from Starty and Hutch when Ben Steel was like, "You want my gun? you want my badge, take it. And his
11:54 captain's like, "Okay." He's like, "No, I was just joking. I was just it's a metaphor, you know. He's like, [laughter] but uh you know, I wish I was the the the guy who came home. I was like, "Hey, how was your day?" And I hang up my hat and my trench coat like it was a long day at the beat today. Really draining on the body. Why you hounding me, woman? Leave me alone. You know, type thing. But it's it's it's not like that. It's There are rough days, but it's it's >> badge stays the same way. >> Badge stays the same way. Stays on the vest. So,
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