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Are You Sending Your Kids to College?

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0:00 Oh, you studied abroad. >> I did. I did. See, that's the kind of ████ studying [laughter] abroad. Huh? >> I'm just kidding. I I just made that ████ up. I'm sorry. >> No, that's the truth. >> I think would be one of those things where you know the truth. >> I love Spain. >> Welcome [laughter] back to another very serious episode of the Careful Boys. question for you is, hey, are you going to send your kids to college? >> I wonder if they'll even make it. >> You know, before we get to the very, very sad part of your life, bar, are you going to send Taiga to college? >> When you say send, you mean like kind of encourage or force them? >> Sure. Yeah. >> Would you Asian parents? You must be the doctor. >> And if he doesn't get like any scholarships, you get paid the whole way kind of. >> Oh, yeah.

0:50 >> So, if it's not like one of those uh it's uh what is it called? like very organic next step like let's say he gets a basketball scholarship or any or something like that or it's a obvious he likes to do this he needs to go to college and he's kind of on the fence I would probably recommend that he goes to the military more than college >> cuz I think in the military if you spend your four years there you're going to get so much more life experience uh you usually go to some sort of trade school and then you're getting paid during that time and anything that I didn't do or teach him raising him, like how to iron pants, all that kind of stuff, they'll teach him. So, I feel like it it'll be a good kid to adult actual transition, meanwhile, still making money and then

1:42 kind of like uh staying physically fit and and and being wellround and all that stuff. What if that's your game plan and then like something like 9/11 happens and then we started to go into like really active like wartime, would you still be like go to the military? >> I'd be like maybe he could try to find a a non-combative role, but I do think it's very very helpful. Yeah, because you see like everyone that like let's say they didn't know how to do regular ████ like even because they teach you um I feel like half of the courses in boot camp they should teach your senior year in high school cuz you learn how to like run a budget. You learn how to like um like you have to go do laundry and stuff. So you kind of have to like some people you could tell that their parents did their laundry the whole time in high school >> and they don't even know how to fold their clothes and then like when you

2:32 open your foot locker it's just everything's just like ████ all like bunched up together. So I think it's like a really good like in between filler if you never learned it through Boy Scouts high school or your parents. These are all the things that you need as an adult. >> Military sounds better than high school. Like it prepares people for life better >> cuz you have to do your own laundry. You get inspection. >> There's no there's no girls, but you get inspection. So, it's like you when you're standing in formation, then they look at everyone's uniform. Are your whites whites? Are your colors colors? Like all that stuff. Are your shoes shine? They look at your grooming. So, you have to shave and do all that all that stuff. And I feel like it's And then, yeah, your bed gets inspected, your foot locker gets inspected. So, I don't think any of us really have that accountability normally, you know? It's just besides like maybe our parents going, "Go clean your room." And then they did you clean it? Yes. I don't know

3:22 if parents actually go in and go, "Okay, did you clean it to a specific standard I set or does it just look non- messy?" You know, I feel like that stuff's really good. And then having some sort of uh trade that he could fall back on. >> What if he wanted to go to ANA, >> Army Navy Academy for high school, I probably would not want to have him go cuz he's probably going to get kicked out very fast. >> Oh ████ >> Cuz it's Lord of the Flies over there, man. The ████ kids run the ████ school. And if you're smart and loophole like I am and and Taika, they're going to be doing the most Chinese ████ all ████ day in there. He's going to get kicked out. >> Like Jason Chenny stealing food with rats and ████ [laughter] I like that he's more willing to send his kid to military wartime versus ANA >> than a simulation of it. >> Yeah, there's not enough enforcers. That's why there's not enough enforcers at the school. So the kids run the

4:14 school, >> right? And that's the scary part when you have a bunch of like 15y olds and a lot of them are filthy rich like kids of billionaires. It's not a good time. >> Are you are you like do you have the same opinion as me where like depending on Taika's choice of major you will or won't pay for college. [sighs and gasps] >> If he's like I don't really know what I want to do. [laughter] Uh but I do want to like go to Pepperdine. I'd be like, "F███ no, dude. I'm not gonna pay ████ like 100 G's a year for you to not know what you want to do or whatever the ████ the payment is." That's crazy. >> But school is where they find themselves. >> But it's a sweet place to take some GES, Dad. [laughter] >> And I heard the girls there are banging. >> I'm like, "Go to ████ Elac, dude. We're going to move back to California.

5:04 You go to Elac. [laughter] >> Elac doesn't have a surf shop. >> They don't got the babes. They should be going to UC Santa Cruz or was whatever with that attitude. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Cuz I don't want to put in ████ tons of money towards like low intention. >> I'd rather have him go, I'm ████ passionate about this business and it could be stupid, but I'm like, I see where his passion is and I see the intent, >> the tuition I was going to pay for college. Let's go invest in your business. See what happens. >> Sick. versus like here's ████ 50 G's and then you don't even know what you're doing. >> You're just gonna maybe sleep in and skip all your classes. >> I w I may or may not pay for college for my kid. I will 100% pay for trade school of any type.

5:54 >> Really? >> So they're like, I want to be plumber. >> Yeah. >> Or if my kid was like, "Yeah, I want to be an electrician, dude. Hell yeah." >> Yeah, >> that's ████ you. that like is infinitely more like useful and he can help out around the house with that skills. >> And those jobs the minute you graduate, you have jobs lined up. >> They're hiring you like right before you graduate. And those connections, all those other guys, all those Sparkies you're going to meet in freaking electrician school. Like you're going to everyone's going to be closer and start companies together and hire each other and ████ Yeah, that's huge. >> You're not worried about him getting electrocuted? >> That could happen even if no matter what he did, he's an idiot. I already know he's my son. [laughter] >> I don't think he's going to get electrocuted at Dumbra Mifflin. >> The paper company. >> This episode is brought to you by the RP Hypertrophy app. Want to build muscle

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7:35 physically hurt >> and then like those jobs are looked upon as like >> I don't know cuz I I I would agree too like it's probably way more useful to be military bluecollar like find a trade and then like you have a skill set that's always in demand like but then like >> if you could choose that or like a scientist >> I I feel like if you're in a COVID lab. Maybe like a scientist >> like a researcher. >> Yeah. Like it's safer on the body maybe. I don't know. >> Yeah, it would be. Yeah. >> I I I think I don't really care about if they go to college or not. I think it's just going to get to the point where information and studying things like curating your own ████ to like figure out your career path is going to be way more superior than going to a university. But if their argument of university is because they want to be a

8:25 professor, they want to go into academia, or they need that ████ for the purpose of being a surgeon or whatever, that makes a lot of sense. But if they want to go cuz they want to study philosophy, >> I'm like, how how much philosophy you trying to do? >> Studied the philosophy of ████ pipes and carpentry. [laughter] And it's weird that like I mean I have cousins that did take philosophy and they end up with the same ████ philosophy [laughter] as like you know what I mean? It's not like you have a deeper >> they just have confirmation bias. They're trying to find things that support what they think. >> Yeah. Because I I love talking to my cousin about ████ and I'm like you you're just a regular liberal dude. Like you didn't come up with a way deeper understanding of any of this ████ You just have more debt. And can't you just read like all those? You could get the same content without someone lecturing

9:16 it to you, >> bro. And and not only that, but none of it's lived experience. It's all like, I'm just learning from reading literature and other people's lives. Like, so the people you study in philosophy are people who lived these experiences. That doesn't seem fair. >> Like, so you don't get to experience any of it. You just have to agree with it. >> Yeah. It's like reading like David Gogggins book on like what he experienced and then you're like I think I just ran 200 miles by reading [laughter] this book >> and then you base your whole life off of that. >> But I think if I were to create like a college program after traveling and [snorts] doing shows all around the country and seeing how different colleges operate, I think my goal if they were to go to college is to sell them on how fun different colleges would be. Because I was like, dude, I would have gone to University Monoa. I would have gone to Hawaii or I would have gone to like Yeah. for different things,

10:07 right? >> Yeah. Out of state is cool. >> Yeah. Cuz that's what I would pay for. It's like the experience, the fun, and then just be like, "Hey, get the ████ out of wherever we're at and then just try this country, right?" >> That is a nice thing to Yeah. Like when you studied abroad. >> Yeah. 100%. >> Oh, you studied abroad? >> I did. I did. >> See, that's the kind of ████ studying [laughter] abroad, huh? I'm just kidding. I I just made that ████ up. I'm sorry. >> No, that's the truth. >> I think would be one of those things where you know the truth. I love Spain. >> Yeah. Like I got to Where did you study? You [laughter] went to Spain. >> Yeah, I went to Spain. >> See, like that's the college experience. I feel like this is not just all school work, right? You're like making memories and ████ >> I don't feel if he did any school work. >> Yeah, >> he did school girl work. >> Listen. Hey, honestly I I feel that's

10:58 that's my angle on what college is to me. Like I can't honestly at all give you almost anything that I learned academic. And for that same reason, I would be super down for my kid to go to college for the college experience because you learn so much outside of the school, outside of the academic program. For me, Ryan said this on on the dot in in another video about college, but it's like you you go there and then when you get out, you're oftentimes in debt. So then you're not thinking like, "Oh, this was my major. I have to go into this field." Sometimes you're just automatically like, "Okay, I just need to start working because I'm already in debt." And then it's like that that was like a f like a waste of time, energy, money, all I did that ████ you know? Like literally right after I graduated college, I felt like I needed to work. So, I wasn't even like hyperfocused on making sure I only got something that

11:48 was in line with what I wanted to do. Even then, I chose what I wanted to do because it was like the coolest thing to do for me versus like this is for sure what I know my life's path supposed to be as a film major. But everything else I learned from college or the relationships I built or like like even the idea that you're not going to get a phone call to your parents if you don't show up for class, you had to learn how to be like, I must have the discipline to show up. Like those are things that like you can't really just teach a kid. They have to experience that. Or like living with other people, roommates, like you're going to learn a s███████ about life when you live with another human that's not in your family. And like those types of experiences or like getting ████ up and needing to figure out how to take getting in trouble and needing to figure it out, taking your first AIDS test, you know, because you're you had sex unprotected and you you don't know. Like those are ironically things that I'm like college

12:38 is the weird kind of accessessible to learn life stuff and the experiences I think are more valuable than like you need to be this for this type of education but I wouldn't want them to go if that means it's going to be in debt. So like even for me right now >> and I was just game planning this with Nina with our kid on the way. I'm like if I like honestly my goal is to just at least already have like 10 grand by the end of next year as a college fund for my kid invested. So by the time he's 18 or she's 18, I have no idea. Like they don't have to worry about the financial element or I don't have to worry about the financial element. So you can make your choices and make mistakes, but once once you get out of it, you're not going to just be in debt and feel like you can't make the decision that you wanted to make. So that's just my goal cuz I I loved my college experience and it changed my life. I met literally my best friends there and I'm still connected with them today. And I I learned so much and and I found my dance passion there,

13:29 too, which turned into my career even though it wasn't the academic. So, I'm like, look, that ████ was worth it, but I also did a ████ job afterwards cuz I was in debt. So, if we can avoid the debt problem, >> could have fast forward to what you're doing. >> Yeah. >> Then, then maybe you have an option. But I also really like what you're saying about the military if I would have a son. Like I like I look at my friends I look at my friends who have been in the military and you know not just like what you learn as a man cuz like everything he's saying like that's yeah that should just be in high school but it's not. So it's like if you're going to get that there. >> Yeah. That's one thing I wish I did. >> And then you're also going to have lifetime benefits. >> Certain benefits that are just like holy crap. Like even just getting health care or health insurance taken care of. Like dude that's that's lowkey a cheat code. Obviously, you have to like, you know,

14:19 thank you for your service and any other situation, but still like that's so different to just have certain benefits. And I'm like, okay, that's for life. You're really investing in for life. You can go to college, blow $200,000, get a degree, and never do ████ with it. And it's like, okay, that was just a kind of that kind of investment, >> but you're anteater for life now. >> Sure. Zot zot, baby. >> Or you can go to the military and then it's like for life. >> Yeah. Yeah. Even a sense of pride for life, you know. >> Yep. Damn, man. Smack one million% never let our kid be in the military. One million billion%. >> Is it cuz she wants to join then to join the Australian military [laughter] cuz she's like >> I think it's just a thing with like people from like Australia or or other countries don't think of the military like that. They just they just see it as oh you want our kid to die. Okay. They

15:10 could choose like very different cuz even our military views their military as dope and then when we do like cross trainining it's like a peer-to-peer >> I think it's like the citizens of other countries cuz they don't have military as the culture you know like um like Australian doesn't think like that I don't think >> there's also a lot of Americans that are against the military too and >> not that they hate the soldiers but they don't like what what the American military >> but even that that's like actual thought like Australians just aren't predisposed to care. Like, you know what I mean? It's not in integrated into the culture. >> Oh, right. It's not common that someone like we know so many people that's it's it's almost like integrated into >> Yeah. They're just not thinking about it. And then when they look at American military, they're like, "Oh, you guys are just sign lining up to get killed, I guess." Like it it's such a simplistic point of view that I know me and her

16:00 will always be on opposite pages. cuz there's so many jobs that are not even like combat related >> like a computer too like be not infantry. It's not all infantry. >> I've tried to like we've had actual full-blown arguments about it >> just about military in general like uh because like I'll like say something respectful about like Veterans Day or some ████ and then she'll just be like why? Like she just doesn't the value is not ingrained in her system and then we end up arguing about it. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Well, it makes sense though like Australia doesn't have that culture at all cuz I would argue the UK is even more similar to the US like in a lot of ways. >> I think a lot of countries just don't have military and like daily culture like intertwined with that. That makes sense cuz we're right be

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