0:00 That's like saying like it's like oh I'm making these like these t-shirts and it's like positive messages like where you source the shirts. Jesus Christ. Ken, you literally ruined my one speech of the day. Dude, Anthony was winning that video again. I was listening to you just botched it for him. I wasing listening, bro. One thing um can you like fitness fitness? Oh my god. Vietnam, get this guy off camera. Yeah, we all right. What's the thing you were talking about just now? So, in another video you're talking about you would feel like morally wrong making a AI only fans girl. Yeah. And making money off of that, right? Right.
0:50 Feel like why don't I make some hot chicks out of Bart was like Yeah. like I wouldn't feel good like just doing a um becoming like a only fans like website to support that. So, I was like, "What not illegal, but morally gray things will you guys be down to do?" Because I started thinking about how I enjoy gambling. And I know that it's one of those things where it can be pretty messed up if you can't control yourself, but I also feel like the same reasoning I like I I can't apply it to drug like the drug game, right? For me, I'm like, I'm out of the drug game. I do feel like there's no really entertainment value. Even if you do it recreationally, I don't know if it's a good thing to do, but for me, I have a double standard for gambling. I will work in gambling. I don't I think I
1:42 Yeah, I feel like it's one of those things where if you're an adult, you got to practice self-control. Yeah. Mhm. But I would work in gambling. Like I would do something along the lines of that. And I think it it's morally gray, but would you work in marketing for gambling towards kids? M it depends on what kind of games is that is that even legal though? Well like no for for example I grew up playing Pogs and some would say that that's a form of gambling for kids but like I just dep I you know what it just depends on like what type of gambling and games we're talking about cuz I feel like Japanese pe the culture really perfected marketing gambling to kids. Yeah. Like Pokémon gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Some would argue laboo are gambling. Laboos are crazy. boxes. Oh, so like are you talking about just mystery boxes is considered gambling? Yes.
2:32 Cuz like the amount you pay to to somehow get the correct capsule that you need cuz it's like it's if you boil down what gambling is, it's a game of chance and there's a stake involved which usually is money. I love steak. Yeah. But then I don't know, maybe because I like games that have some stake and risk involved into it. Yeah. Yeah. But then I wouldn't do like a casino game or like if like you know like kids can like get really bad into it where they spend too much money. Mhm. Yeah. There's got to be a like a line where it's not Fortnite though. Some would say Yeah. Some would consider that sort of but then that it's purely cosmetic. So it it brings it back to the middle where and you can't resell it, right? I don't I I'm not aware of it. You sell accounts. Yeah. So maybe this is what makes me a bad
3:23 entrepreneur or business person. Um, but I feel like at least where I'm at in life, if I created Instagram or whatever and like I was Mark Zuckerberg and someone gave me the stats of how much people are online, I would be like, "We need to find ways to slow this down." Oh, is Bart's a Bart's more like a communist leader? I'm a free market economist. I'm like, dude, this is ████ crazy. People are like, they're not having real conversations with their family anymore. Everyone's just connecting online. people are losing the personal touch, you know, I'd feel like let's let's find a way. So, I think for me and I think probably because I'm way more like on the in the entrepreneur like business or creative scale, I think I'm more on the creative. Yeah. So, to me, it's like it's not just all about what are our quarterly reports. It would be more so like what am I actually
4:15 passionate about and what sits right with how I feel about things. I feel like there there are a lot of CEOs that end up like that where they do feel like, oh, the thing I created is getting out of hand, but then it's their board that won't let them make any more decisions at I don't know if it has anything to do with creativity. I think it depends on your reality of what is moral. So, look at the flatbeard bird guy. He ████ walked away from the whole thing. Yeah. He didn't think it was society good that people playing it so much. But did he have a giant payout? The Angry Birds. Not as big as it could. It could have been more, but I don't know if it's a I think it's a I think it's a moral issue, not necessarily like uh creative or not creative because you can um some people will have no moral issue with it and that's because their line of what is right and wrong is different.
5:05 So they're capable of like so for example like you can be a creative artist and you could be into like death metal and all these crazy things that might not be morally good for society but they're like I'm just expressing myself and this is like my my thing. I see. Yeah. So I don't know if it's like one's more artistic but I think it's really just where do you fall between the line, right? Cuz some people that are really businessminded, they'll follow the numbers. M yeah. And I think I'm not the ones that would have followed. Yeah. They're more like I know what you're talking about. They're more just like bottom line people like if it was just a Amazon or something like that and they don't really care about the morality behind it. That's why it's like usually if you're even a company that got to that level where it's that big that it affects society that strongly, you probably
5:55 already have a board that is the financial minds that don't want you to do anything that makes less money. Yeah. So, you can't you can't afford to be the person with morals. You just have to fight an impossible battle. Well, that's why people compensate in other ways. It's like you do what you have to do and then you're like, "But we'll donate to this nonprofit every year or we'll we'll plant these trees after our tour." I think the smartest thing is how Tik Tok and China just became way more ████ fruitful and educational for its citizens and they left Tik Tok everywhere else to be ████ They're like desolate. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty smart. That's like a nice medium, right? I'm a gangster, too. I also I also think it depends on what you think your um responsibility is for the world cuz like there's the argument of like, hey, I'm just providing a service, right? This goes back to kind of like the drug dealers or even like
6:45 people that do like sell alcohol or tobacco. They're like, I'm providing something that you can enjoy at leisure, but it's not my fault if you abuse it. and they can be the you can apply that same thing to uh Facebook. It's like I made a little space where people can kind of connect and make friends. It wasn't meant to be for you know groups to get together and then like whatever, right? Like back page. Yeah. So then if you feel like you're completely responsible for all of it cuz the bigger things get, there's collateral damage. Oh, that's like how the Craigslist people deleted the ████ sections for like sex work. Yeah. What a scam. But then there's also that argument that's like if I don't do it, somebody else is going to do it. Yeah. So, I might as well try to do it and then try to stay in some sort of moral guideline because Only Fans didn't start off that
7:35 way, you know, it didn't start off with the intent for it to be sex work. You know what I saw that was really cool when what you just said, but in the positive realm, which I've never seen anyone do, cuz usually they have that excuse for negative stuff. Well, if someone has to provide whatever ████ crack to Africa, I'm going to be the one, right? But the one that I saw uh that I was like, "This is ████ cool." is Ford. You know, the minute they started having displays in your cars, big displays, Ford uh got the patent to display ads ads in in the on the screens. And they got it because they know other people are going to apply for it. But if they got the patent, they get to control and be the only one. And they still haven't done it to this day. They got it to block it. We own it so that we can't do it and no one else can do it. Or else Imagine driving, you have ████ ads on your screen all day,
8:25 dude. That's awful. Yeah, that's awful. That's pretty cool. Your customer base is going to hate you if you do that. Yeah, that's pretty bad. That is crazy. What the commercials while you drive? Yeah. And they didn't want Get out of here. Any other car brand to do it either. It's going to feel like you're in the back of a taxi. You know, when you all these commercials, you can't even turn it off insurance in your car. screens try to give you way funnier if they like got it because it's like oh we're going to be the only ones who could do ads and then like their board was like that's a dumb idea so now they just have the patent and they don't do it. You know what you know what it is too is like you have to you have to measure the value of your own peace of mind. I think that's where it stops. That's a big one. Yeah. Yeah. Like I I enjoy having like a wholesome time with Smack and I think if I was a ████ a porn producer I would stress you out. I would lose that. You know what I mean? Like I wouldn't have that like innocent
9:15 millions and millions of dollars so you could have really quality time with that. It's priceless though. It's It's priceless to have Peace of mind is everything, bro. It's priceless to have things that you've never done. I know that sounds weird. I get what you're saying. But like Well, you've never done an OF AI, right? But you know where that leads. Yeah, but it's like it's like Mia Khalifa, you know? Like she wants to be all these things now, but no one will let her like live past what you did before. It's like there's some things that like once you do them, you can't trick yourself anymore. Yeah. Like one of the sickest things is that Nick and Tiff have only had each other. And that's ████ cool. That's That's the richest life you can have. Like, you know what I mean? Cuz I know if anything else happens, it would break my brain. It would ruin me. It would ruin me. If I got my butthole licked by Anthony Lee, dude, that would ruin that would ruin me sexually. Go that far. If you come first and last, what do you mean? First and last
10:07 serious. Why did you want to say that? My bad, dude. I just was trying to go for an outlandish comparison, but but he's the most I'm intrigued now. He's the most sexually oriented person here. That's why but not most likely to lick a butthole. You guys are like opposite blueprints. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? I just trying to get you trying to get you looking at me, Anthony. The virgin one and then the the sex haver. Yeah. The Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene. This guy knows the Bible. What up, guys? Come join our Patreon because there's hundreds of videos dating back to 2019. Support the channel's growth and new ideas. And tap into the closer community by joining our Discord. Come chat with me inside and then you can say funny things to me and get the opportunity to suggest new video ideas. Come join our Patreon.
10:57 Thank you. Link is in the description box below. I even feel um I even feel the like what is the word like the contra not the contradiction. I feel douchy. Double standard. But like no, like you know when you get feel like you're getting pulled in two directions. Oh, with fitness. Even with fitness. And I'm sure you feel exactly the same cuz in fitness there's what works. And it's ████ simple. It's the simplest ████ ever, but it's boring. Eat less. I mean, eat less than uh how much you train and then you'll lose weight. Stick to something. Any program that you stick to could be written by Taika and it's gonna work if you just stick to it. Like all the answers are free, simple, easy. Yeah. But then you no businesses would grow, right? So you kind of have to fluff and grow and make all these like either take uh
11:49 crazy stances on things, create controversy or make things sexier than they need to be. And you and then you see like all of the people that do that have millions of views, millions of dollars, and they have built empires, but then the people that actually just stick to the basics is just like a random super fit guy that lives in Roondo Beach. And he actually has all the answers that everyone else does. But if you don't if you do that, you just become broke. And I'm always in the middle of that like, ████ which side do I go? I see what you're saying. But I think selling your souls. I think you should go the ████ side and make that money. He's not wrong. You can count on Suben. But then there's some people there's some people that can't do that just because like what what Ryan said, forever be down there. Exactly. Exactly.
12:39 That's that's where the term nice guys finish last comes. I think the guys that can comm they they they understand they're the most successful. Yeah. Most successful cuz like I don't know. I would consider Dr. Mike someone who's got the science background but also he does a really good job marketing himself. Yeah. He's great where it's not sleazy. Yeah. And he found his voice, you know, and so Yeah. So I I mean he's not, you know, probably appealing to the typical influencer crowd, but that's okay. he could still be tremendously successful, you know, with people that want to learn about real fitness or whatever. So, how do you I guess it's the it's more of a question of like how do you market and communicate your stuff
13:29 to the most people while you stay true to yourself? You know what he does? He he'll he'll uh he'll take all these other crazy fitness guys like the Gary Breer guy, you know, that Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll take him and Gary Bre is he does a really good job of that cuz a lot of the stuff he talks about is like just basic fundamental health stuff. Yeah, but then he'll to go viral and to to get the attention, he has he has to say like the wildest, craziest ████ the fanciest stuff, and then Dr. Mike will just kind of like ████ on it to be like, "Yo, this is crazy. This is not okay." But then because he's able to do that and call out somebody else who may be seen as a charlatan, he he becomes the guy that's like, "Oh, this is the credibility guy." Yeah. But he does have to go out and kind of make a stance and say, "Yo, this guy's actually talking ████ sometimes." And and it's balanced, too, because he'll talk ████ and then he'll also like get he'll try things like he'll do like the
14:19 calisthenics workout and be like, "I can't ████ do this." Like, "This is crazy. You're you're freaking radical." Like, so so he like puts himself in a regular human position as well. And I think that that stays relatable even though he's like talking about the wildest ████ That's why Dr. Mike is all of our dads, dude. He's our dad. He's Jared's dad for sure. It's funny how like I think above any of this stuff, you can't really say anything until you're faced with the offer being on the table. Like you can't be like, "Oh, I know I would turn it down because I care about morals." But like then you just sound like the guy that's like, "Hey, you know, I thought of inventing the iPod 10 years before that." You know, you just sound crazy, but like until you've like actually been faced with like, "Do you want this or this?" And you chose the thing that's more truer to you, then you really know. That's what I'm saying. Get that money. That's completely not the direction. But yeah, but then I understand that's a concept. Yeah, I understand that there's people
15:09 that are going to choose that and especially honestly when you have a kid, duh, take the money. It changes, dude. Like I get that. Like you're not living for yourself no more. So yeah, I totally understand. I I don't I don't mind flirting with the moral line for money. Yeah. I I think objectively crossing it, it's like okay, then that's a problem. But like if I think everything can flirt on a moral line. Yeah. I think it naturally does. That's like saying like it's like oh I'm making these like these t-shirts and it's like positive messages like where'd you source the shirts? Jesus Christ. Ken, you literally ruined my one speech of the day. Dude, Anthony was winning that video. I was listening too, man. You just botched it for me. I was ████ listening, bro. It is. It is. I think about it all the time because like one thing um can't you like fitness fitness?
16:00 Oh my god. ████ Viet to Vietnam. Get this guy off camera. What are we doing? Fitness dip. There's things that I'm like, um, it's gray area that I'm like, well, I cut out a lot of sugary stuff out of my diet and I'll like once in a while have something, but then I'm like, but I have a business that sells sugary drinks all day long. M. And then what we've also done too is um we just made it like a thing where if we see a kid and the sometimes parents will be like, "Oh, my kid loves sweet drinks. Make it extra sweet." I told all the employees, "Just say yes, but don't do it." Wa. You do that? That's tight. That's You're ████ up. Joe's like, "We can't waste the ████ sugar. It's expensive." He's like, "It's $10 extra." I know. That's It's more It's more like
16:50 that. The kid's not going to know a ████ difference, bro. Ladies and gentlemen, Jumbi, baby. I do it cuz um well for one man I don't know it just makes me feel weird cuz like I mean it's not crack right but also for them it is. Yeah. Like I'm like dude like under the age of I don't know a teenager, right? And then your parents are basically your gateway to self-control diet and everything. And then so when you see some of these kids on the ████ sugar high, it's literally like crack. And then I'm like, man, how are you okaying that ████ Like, I don't know. To me, it just feels weird. But also, it's cuz when I used to work at Target, I would see some families like they would have like a like a one-year-old baby with a ████ bottle of Coke. Like in their little sippy ████
17:40 there's like there's like Coca-Cola just there. And I'm just like, dude, this is ████ wild, dude. I mean, it's not going to kill them, but it is going to ████ them. It's going to set them up for failure a little. That's such a great sentence. Maybe not yet. Conflicted, too. I mean, my entire brand and ethos was about respect all, fear none. And then I came here and then I got the one thing tattooed on my leg. Fear everyone, bro. That says fear. So special. Yeah. That's cool that you did that though. And it's because I just wanted to get that bag, right? To get that money. Hey, that's you, man. Yeah. I fear everyone. That's you. Even though he's been saying it. Fear everyone. We don't need to stand by our, you know, statutes anymore. Well, here. Well, it's not like always get the money, forget everything. I'm just saying when it comes to morals, then you're going to know when Well, just forget morals. Don't forget
18:31 everything. Just forget morals. You're going to know when to use your morals. You know what I'm saying? Morals are going to get in the way of making money. You're about You're about to fall someone you you your homie is about to fall off the rock, but there's a bag of 100k to the left of you. If you if you decide to get the bag of 100k, your homiey's going to fall. Ah, you know, fall off and die. And this scenario happens all the time. Yeah. Common scenario. All I'm saying is that how much does a homie owe you though? Yeah. Yeah. Two bucks. Two bucks. Oh, then you got to get the 100k. That's principal. No, but at the end of the day, real life situation, you're going to save your buddy no matter what. You know what I'm saying? Things like that. In those moments, and then real life scenario, your buddy's going to be like, I can't believe you didn't get the 100k to split with me. Then you sidekick him off the rock cliff. And then the 100K comes right back up and bang, you're like, "I'm grateful as mother." Now, now it's only 20K because you
19:21 missed the first opportunity. Well, but then your homie is going to say, "Hey, I can't believe you didn't grab that bag." That's when you go like, "It's all good, bro. At least I saved you." That's a real homie right there. Both you guys are real homies, actually. Yes. In that scenario. And then he goes, when it comes to moral stuff like that, absolutely. But when it comes to like ████ where you're an adult and you can't control it yourself, then that's on you. What What do you guys What do you guys call this behavior? because we we called it sack mentality cuz a lot of Sacramento guys are like this. But um it's the behavior when let's say there's like you walk into a room and there's like a table full of free samples and then one guy puts all of it in his bag and leaves. That's called sacramentality. That's hilarious. Is that really sacmentality? All the samples and they just leave. That's not or like I never heard of that in my life. But you know that you know that behavior of like it's free like nothing's wrong with it like
20:13 but but the the showing no class of like let me just take all of them and then and like bounce. I've seen it go down before mentality. We started calling sack fatality cuz those Sacramento people did that ████ This exists in all industries. Yeah. You know if you go to like for example let's say you go to a gun show, right? There's people that visit every booth and then there's people that have to get the stickers and whatever at every single booth. They they got to leave the the the convention with like a bag full of ████ right? The Costco mentality, dude. That's the Costco sample mentality. Well, that's different if versus like if you're collecting cuz you were there and you're participating versus like you're taking everything from one sample booth so nobody else can get them because they're all available right now. Yeah. It's the it's the get what you can get all that you can get. Going into like a dentist office and then looking at all the Worther's originals and taking the entire bag.
21:03 That's like going to a hotel and stealing everything that you think is like free. Like even though they're not free. Yeah. What do Do you have a word for that? So I cannot call it sacment mentality cuz it's kind of messed up. I think you just got to not be friends with that person. He said mentality. Shy. Shy. Shy. I only do the sack mentality in video games. There was another dude. Oh yeah, that's right. This will be taking loot under your legs and ████ in the video games. There was a dude. another dude in that sack mentality thing where uh sack the whole group would go to Denny's and then they would eat and then they leave you know back in the day you leave the cash on the table and then everyone bounces or you leave the tip and this food would kind of wait it out and then once everyone's outside scoop the tip from his own friends you know who it is too what I got I know who that
21:53 from their own friends end the video end the video so we can talk about it the video just want to know hella bad like you have intrusive thoughts but you Do it.
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