0:00 in Gran Torino I didn't think those were the best Mong people they could have chosen for that bro it was like they were reading off a q cards yeah but they stood for something you know different but it was that's the whole point it's like if it stands for something versus just like was this like an incredibly Stellar performance right yeah definitely wasn't is what I'm hearing I'll say it cuz you [Laughter] [Music] won't so huge Scandal right now biggest Scandal on Earth probably you guys saw the Oscar nominations no people still watch the Oscars people watch the Oscars it still has a global audience okay it's Talk of the Town especially this town Maro Robbie was not nominated for Barbie however and and Greta Gerwig who directed it not nominated for best
0:52 director but Ryan Goins was nominated for what you figure that one out what what category for Ken oh but was it like what best actor best actor wow I didn't even think Barbie would be like a Oscar type film it just seemed like like a kid's Nostalgia film it got nominated for best picture wow I didn't did you guys watch it I didn't okay I didn't watch it we watched it we debated it in this room oh that's right I got to watch it I watch Oppenheimer cuz I'm a real film buff yeah you're a real you're and they won film I had an option between Oppenheimer and Barbie and said as a real filmmaker I'm going to go Oppenheimer cuz I'm not going to watch yeah I mean like it's one of those like where you sit no didn't they make a
1:43 new category for movies like that like where it was like a cultural phenomenon type stuff because there are a lot of movies that aren't considered like cinematography so they expanded the category so it used to be five films are nominated now it's like nine or whatever no I'm saying there's like a whole other category that was made for like I heard going to do like best comedy too cuz comedies always get kind of like robbed cuz there's not really it's like dramatic so they don't yeah yeah those those categories especially because like a lot of those things happen on like Netflix and stuff now so I think they like made new categories specifically to to preserve like The Prestige of like best picture so it's not just like what gross the most or whatever but then still like you get an achievement cuz if you did gross more like 10x more than the quote unquote best picture there's something to say about that too everything you just said fake it's not real they need to have a blockbuster one
2:34 special achievement Academy Award or whatever the ████ what the ████ is that that's like the special achievements is like what they give to the old guy special achievement the old guy it sounds like a participation award which one what's that one outstanding achievement in popular film stuff like that you know you're not going to televise that ████ I mean I think well okay maybe maybe I'm also like uh I just watched the golden Globes and they definely did that there proposed it was proposed but it's not an actual category yet to be presented annually and it was announced as a new category August 2018 oh wow but then apparently the following month they said they were not going to be presenting retracted Awards they postponed it are are are people upset that Ryan goling won and like Margo
3:24 Robbie didn't oh he got he was nominated they think it's like a sexist thing because Greta Gerwig directed and she was not included in Best Director category and in addition to that Ryan gokin got nominated but then Margo Robbie didn't for for the people like as someone who's seen it does that look weird it tracks to me because he was like really good in the movie and like like I thought I thought Mar Robbie did a fine job but it wasn't like every everybody who walked out of the movie with me we're all talking about Ken the whole time okay okay okay he was just delightful so there really is a standout performance that Ryan go who are the other of all the that's the the funny thing to me is that like like Hollywood right now I'm surprised that they would nominate a straight white guy like it's
4:14 the opposite so it's it there they would have nominated a transgender like black person or something right like that that's probably what they would have done but then the fact that they they said that Ryan goling got the nomination is it I don't know I don't think that it's like well I mean he might just cover that category for that there's going to be a bunch of other nominees and stuff like that so maybe like he covered the category yeah he black lesbi in that category for sure but he really was like cuz I haven't seen it so I don't know he was dope he was do for sure he was Margot is great and obviously the whole movie revolves around her but like the way he played Ken in such a unique machismo but also demasculate but also evil but also like cuz you know like the nominations seem to go for people that are acting Beyond something they normally do or they're like having to really like get outside
5:06 themselves like a different take on the role too to me it was like watching Christian Bale and Batman where like he's really good and really solid but Heath Ledger just was like what everyone was talking about exactly okay that's a really good example and like when you're sometimes when you're the lead character too you don't get to do as much as the side character sure that's like lead CIO in every movie he's ever been even in Black including killers of the flower Moon by the way really even in black panther I thought that um yes the mord his character was able to sometimes when you're a villain you're allowed to have more range because you have so much of this like self-conflict and also affect the audience more too and also you're not a villain in real life so you're like doing something that is unique from your own character you're also not on camera the whole time so it doesn't get annoying if you're being that much like the whole time I could
5:59 see that okay times number twos become the number ones yeah that happens a lot like Keith Ledger won yeah do you think that um Greta Gerwig should have been nominated for best director based on how the movie was it's tough because I don't I didn't watch any other ████ movies that were nominated so I can't just say yes can you find out what I think it depends on what other directors they're up against in what movies also how many other people watched all these other films so that way where they had you know a reasonable opinion the people that are crying about it they watch everything also it also seems like if if let's say you had five nominees and they were all women right and it's like super cool that they're all women but they're also five mainstream movies wouldn't people just start complaining that some of the Independents didn't get included yeah so this is basic like it's still a mainstream film yeah this is basically
6:49 the same list as the Golden Globes um so Academy of a fall killers of the flower Moon by Mar SC poor things Oppenheimer the zone of interest and obviously Barbie is isn't here Barb was nominated golden glob and this used to be like like I said like best picture used to be a tip five like this but they expanded it because of popular movies like when the Dark Knight didn't get anything everyone was like are you ████ kidding me The Dark Knight was sick and it was like the biggest movie of the year dark was insane so then they added this category the next year or they added this addition next year to expand the best picture to include popular culture films yeah it's so weird because also at the same time everyone looks back at past lists and past winners and they always point out that wasn't the cultural Zeitgeist of that era like these movies are so forgettable who's watched this the second time and yeah that does happen so it shouldn't be that big of a letdown if something was like
7:40 snubbed you know it's like well there's still great movies that don't get nominated all the time yeah and 10 movies this year were nominated for best picture so you have a tight five for best director and then yeah you know how many great movies coresi made but he never won ████ yeah I know dude it's crazy and I feel like sometimes people like remember those things too and they're like okay well this person finally like deserves something so maybe we'll give it to them I mean look how long it took Leo to win something oh dude ages and it also is a better at least in my mind which maybe biased I think it's a better accomplishment when someone is using less resources to get an amazing movie done versus cats that had all the ████ money in the world and they tanked it yeah then it's like oh you threw all this money at the problem couldn't fix it like they threw tayor Swift at the problem and couldn't fix it and they couldn't make money that's a lot that ████ and James Cordon the freaking darling of the C oh yeah did anybody else watch of the flower
8:30 moon no didn't is it really good it's good it's 3 and 1 half hours but it's pretty damn good but the funny thing is I'm watching it with n right and uh this is right after golden glowes because he got nominated for every ████ thing as well and even the uh the lady um won best uh female actor in that movie the first Native American to right yeah and she's like solid but I definitely remember watching and being like she's not an actress is this best like actress you know what I mean it's like or is it is it like the novelty of like representing you know the first Native American you know there there's clearly that as well and sounds like it was a great performance it was solid I me she's sick half the movie dude she's just like but that is that is a big leverage in why certain things are not which I think is fine I just think it needs to be like understood across the
9:21 board that you know what I mean there is a political yeah fine is the best sometimes sometimes fine is is the best in Grant Torino I didn't think those were the best Mong people they could have chosen for that but bro it was like they were reading off a q cards yeah but they stood for something you know different but it wasn't that's the whole point it's like if it stands for something versus just like was this like an incredibly Stellar performance right yeah definitely wasn't is what I'm hearing I'll say it cuz you won't yeah he he'll translate for you yeah I didn't see it I I have something yeah to admit I I lied to you guys I'm not a big film buff yeah you said you don't watch films a second time I when I when I went to go watch Barbie it was sold out so Oppenheimer was available so I ended up
10:11 watching Oppenheimer instead and it was a very long movie and half of the time um I was just annoyed at how ████ long it was it's cuz so much dialogue right that's the irony it's like for Christopher Nolan in my personal very non objective opinion ████ for sure not his best but that's what he'll get like best director and best like motion picture for at like B Globes but you're like what like Interstellar was like ████ five times better than this minimum but I get it Oppenheimer has a cultural like telling a story of one of the most important moments in like human I did geek out when Einstein came through though did you like that ████ well I I also think that if you if you read about Oppenheimer and if you read about like this era then you become a little bit more geeky about it so
11:02 there's context right but I understand that in the movie like they had to build the context part of it too for for fresh eyes but even with that I think a lot of people wouldn't like it but even though it was really really good dialogue and I still lowkey fell asleep for like a couple minutes and Oppenheimer but even with Barbie I definitely was like I don't want to watch this NE want to watch it I'm sitting there I'm like damn it's pretty ████ good the whole time but is it is it because you win in it with really low expectations that you're like huh not bad I think it's possible that that can affect it but I'm not very like a a big expectations person I think I do a pretty good job moderating I didn't watch Oppenheimer in the first 3 months you know what I mean I waited for everything to simmer down I was like okay cool now I have time to watch it and it's not sold out I was pissed because when they announced the cast for Oppenheimer they they got that guy who looks like Albert Einstein but you guys know that Paul gamman like does a
11:52 perfect Albert Einstein does he yeah and why didn't they get Paul gmar to do it maybe it might have been too funny I don't think so cuz he do a really serious and good one here in the Verizon commercials Einstein my network has G you tried to sa the luck on it I got what I paid for not so smart oh that would have been so good there's a smar way to say yeah that would have been really good told you buddy was ice in a Verizon commercial L money I think the bike's probably [Music] faster
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