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Supreme Court Sides with Web Designer Refusing to Serve Gay Couples

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0:00 thank you [Music] in a huge decision affecting lgbtq rights uh the U.S Supreme Court on Friday carved out a significant exception to public accommodations laws that in Most states Bar discrimination based on sexual orientation if you guys remember there was a very famous case a couple years ago about a bakery oh the cake yeah and they're like a gay couple comes in like we want to get a wedding cake uh Christian Baker make my ████ take and then Christian no against my religion I'm not gonna have two dudes in a suit on top of the cake hey you're lost Bakery yeah your financial loss you should have gone to a Chinese Bakery oh dude they're like the least

0:52 discriminatories they'll make cakes or anything yeah a cake that says like hey ████ you for being coveted into America don't bake that they'll bake that they'll bake a covid-19 cake they're like what kind of icing do you want on them all kinds of cakes don't have a ████ big bat on the top centerpiece that's what's cool about Chinese people yeah dude he's trying to get paid man they're like they don't give a ████ whatever man so there's a lady named there's a lady named Lori Smith and she's a Colorado web designer who is opposed to same-sex marriage personally she challenged the state's public accommodations law claiming that by requiring her to serve everyone equally the state was unconstitutionally enlisting her and creating a message

1:43 that she opposes violating Her First Amendment rights basically why it like Bart you are a web designer okay and I am a white Supreme supremacist yeah yeah I would like you to make an anti-asian website okay you need to make it for me or I'll sue you I feel like I have a right to refuse service like that but that's what she's saying and many people say that that's ████ up because it's it's actually hurting lgbtq rights because you can now openly discriminate against somebody if you want to so like well they're not discriminating they're not going out and saying like ████ lgbtq they're just saying my business doesn't do that are they saying that they're withholding their ability to express

2:33 so like if if you're not willing to make the website if you're not willing to do the cake then now that's a message they're trying to get out and they're willing to pay for the service but now you're withholding that ability with holding the service so I go to your restaurant for example and like I'm like and it says like we don't serve Trump supporters and I'm like I'm a trump supporter why can't I eat here right like that kind of thing yeah like like it kind of is baked into nice a lot of the different um interactions that you could have with businesses yeah and so the Supreme Court just said that you cannot force someone into saying something that they don't believe in by by their work right you can't sue them and make and compel them to a certain speech that they're against that is Like Your First Amendment right right if you're like let's say I'm a song writer

3:24 and if the contents of your song like what you want me to write for you does it match then you kind of are using forcing me to not to you to not have freedom in my speech and make something I don't believe also just not have freedom in your choice and what you want to do with your with your own work yeah remember the ████ the police like NWA right yeah like that you know offended cops a lot yeah and uh and I think everybody and it was a little bit Yeah and but that and that was actually there was actually formal complaints about it too and they wanted to suppress it but that's also them from them so it's not like someone else hiring them like you know like those are they're the lyrics that they wrote yeah right so they're exercising their freedom of speech yeah exactly but then there's people who are offended by that yeah and so in comes all of this right now now Commerce is

4:15 involved yeah so um I kind of can argue for that if there are no other means but to go through a service to communicate so for example right like let's say there's no phones there's no uh Power Company there's no way for me to even talk to you guys directly because I live in Alaska in a small town right now let's say I needed to get a message out on Facebook Messenger or whatever and they refuse the service and in the world there's no other option but one way of communicating to the rest of people and then they just stop that from me then I can kind of see that but if you can bake a cake yourself and make a message if you can go to another Bakery and get it done if you have Alternatives you don't have to go through that one right so then if you have these first

5:06 it's for Creative businesses right I don't know that it's like that I think it's just for commercial yeah but then there's already a law that is basically you cannot refuse the right to service based on race or gender or whatever that's already a law the the the um the circumstance here is they don't want to write the stuff on the birthday cake and create so they're like I don't want to do that but they probably would have serviced they could sell you the case and show you the icing yeah but I don't want to write yeah I think I think they're zooming in a little bit more and it's like you can't refuse right to uh service based off of gender whatever all that stuff that's cool but then now if it's like um if you have to express yourself through that service in a specific way that's what they have the rights talking

5:56 about so it's called the decision was limited because because much of what might have been contested about the facts of the case was stipulated namely that Mrs Smith intends to work with couples to produce a customized story for their websites using her words and her original artwork and given those facts uh Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court Justice Trump appointee said it qualifies for constitutional protection you're compelling her to use her speech and use her words and her imagery yeah to make your point she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to yeah um but yeah so we'll put it right so it's a so this this mainly affects businesses that you there's a creative element right it's not like you go out to automatic doors it stays shut because you're gay yeah it makes I mean it makes sense to me it's like like let's say you want a color attack got a gaydar kind of a good business

6:48 you got a gay dog yeah I want to know there's a gay door they're like sorry Ryan you're gay and the white and then why is the door again yeah the door's gay it hates itself you made the door game AI is a thing yeah self-hating door a black and black and gray tattoo specialist and you go I want a color tattoo they'll say no too yeah yeah it's like that's just not their their right their the way they express their art in there so we're going to a sushi restaurant in Japan and customize your ████ yeah dude spit in your face dude I was in Vegas and I saw Gordon Ramsay was like made me a ████ Burger he's doing it they won't even yelled at me they won't even cut your pizza a specific way like in places but then I always thought it landed straight in the thing that we had before where it's like hey if that's your decision then it's the business's

7:39 loss and that's too bad for you exactly like someone else will make that money someone else will you know that's how I see it and don't you want to do that anyway don't you want to give your money to a business that wants to do it for you is it a forced one that doesn't right especially for the small business that like aligns with your values like if that's something that matters to you yeah that'd be cool that's right that's that's a great way to find that guy yeah it's like build your own work that's the thing right there are agitators and people who are professional sumens if you will soon and that's the part of their whole thing right it's like find Center of conflict white hot conflict and then like launch lawsuits so go interact oh you you're you're a Muslim right uh this doesn't actually that's a poor example it doesn't really happen like if you're if you're a Muslim Baker they're not like hey make me a gay cake Muslim Baker because nobody has

8:29 [Laughter] like what what the ████ did you say under your breath what'd you ████ say yeah that's true yeah nobody does that but no but that's the that's the the issue with this if you will people are are saying so I'm not going to be allowed to go to places now I'm going to get openly discriminated against and like Ryan says they'll read that's what it sounds like a lot of people don't read they don't understand ████ yeah it's almost like nothing changed it's like it just stayed the way that it has been yeah but now they're not you're not gonna be able to impose on somebody yes God forbid to give you service yeah right you can't force somebody I will say though from the other side right um so Sonia Sotomayor she is the um she

9:20 has she had the dissenting argument so anytime any of this happens they have the the Judgment from the whoever was the on the side of the pro and they have the dissenting she says that Lori Smith's objection amounts to discrimination against the status of same-sex couples discrimination because of who they are speaking of the Court's three liberal justices who voted against it she said time and time again businesses and other commercial entities have claimed a constitutional right to discriminate and time and time again this court has courageously stood up to those claims until today today this court shrinks the lesson of the history of public accommodations laws is that in a free and Democratic Society there could be no social castes for the promise of freedom is an empty one if the government is powerless to assure that a dollar in the hands of one person will purchase the same thing as a dollar in the hands of another

10:11 thoughts that's not free is it that sounds like socialism well uh so because basically they're saying that regardless of what shop you're going to it should all be the same exact thing like you have to get the same so you have to get the same service I think that's the argument it's like no matter who you are you should be able to just go in there and get that product from a business yeah but that's not how it works because there's different companies with different company cultures and different types of service and like you go into a Chinese restaurant you're going to get no service and then you get but but they'll serve you you know what I mean like they won't discriminate right they'll be closing up the ████ restaurant at like and then they'll still stuck chairs around your ████

11:02 table yeah they'll ████ feed you and then they'll be like hey hurry up and pay I've got to close the register but they'll you'll get it yeah you know and then another place like French restaurant and ████ they'll they'll probably be like you know you can't order your dessert before and then they'll force you to get it at the end you know like yeah it makes it the better it's like when you uh it's like ritesh like how he talks about if you're not if you're gonna uh get your steak well done you should die or it's like if you go to Indian restaurant and you're like I don't want any spice in my chicken you should die yeah but again like I still think it remains

11:54 and stands true that you know if these shops don't want to serve you because you're Asian black or whatever that's not them it's ████ them ████ them go somewhere it gives opportunity for another business they will go out of business doing that type of business honestly yeah that's not what this does just to be clear because of what you said yeah this this is about that's not what's happening usually compelling the woman's words making her use her own words and her own imagery to make your point yeah it means now you just can't force somebody to do your creative thing but they will have to serve you they're not going to close the door yeah they just can't do this if you're not Jewish I want the service and I want you to believe what I believe exactly that's weird people have really twisted it to look like doors are closing on them it's like bro the same ████ it's the same thing but now same rules as what's happening now yeah now it just protects people

12:45 that have a way that they want to do their business and now you know it's kind of like what uh PewDiePie did with the Fiverr thing it's like do you remember when that happened and it's like because Fiverr you could get anything done so then he had he had an anti-semitic thing done just to see if they would do it and they did it and it was bad on his head oh they canceled him for it but I mean he's fine but but he he hired some guy who's like doing web development ████ and like from another country I don't think he knew what oh yeah like different language different a lot of things right yeah and yeah for all for all we know he saw it as like the Indian symbol or whatever yeah but yeah he did a full swastika and was like ████ the Jews or something like that it was like nuts wow but he couldn't believe that the guy actually did it which was the point yeah right the point of the whole thing was that like people

13:35 will still do it you don't have to write draw swastikas if you don't if you don't want to if you're a ████ logo designer you don't have to do swastics because you don't want to not to equates but like you know you could just do whatever you want to do yeah and if you could equate those things pretty similar foreign [Music]

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