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Did Steve Cause Joe's Last Breakup?

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0:00 I broke you and Jess up because I was jealous yeah yeah I was just was like man can you tell the story from your side what how did he break you [Music] up have you guys ever um been responsible no for just in general no no responsibity traditionally no let me die I feel responsible right now have you ever caused someone else's breakup oh wake up yeah I don't know I bet you you did H let me think I'm the closest well cuz me and Nikki were were involved with the whole Colleen and Josh thing big time oh yeah so we get a lot of Ballinger the Ballinger yeah a lot of that how how like percentage wise do you think you were responsible for I think

0:51 probably 115% you guys were the first involed yeah yeah yeah you guys were the first ones to tell them like hey this is being said about you yeah yeah and it was mainly Nikki shots Nikki run through that again was there a little denial at first happen oh yeah so shots Nikki was well not shots season two shots but she was doing like wine or whatever and she was like and I I me and him already had a weird time cuz I was on him pretty big time a lot um because he was such a ████ weirdo the Colleen's husband once him and once him and Colleen started blowing up or whatever he turned into such a fing weirdo but he wasn't a bad guy he was just like a clout guy for a time it was not who he is at all and I knew that and so I just like you're fuing weird now cuz I knew him before he was anything um because obviously I only

1:42 value people who become popular but no he was like working at um one of the big MCN and he was just a regular dude and I love that about him so then you know Colleen and him Colleen starts blowing up and then he's like runoff getting like you know a runoff amount by the way guys when I talk about aren no no I'm not talking about we're talking about calling Ballinger yeah yeah but then um so then yeah so then um you know it got it got out of hand right and then their marriage you know was never what it should have been according to him and like his ideals for love and so then it just got really ████ weird because every time he left the room she would ████ on him instantly start talking ████ on him like big time damn that's crazy and just like completely clowning on him and I was like this is ████ up as hell and then like comedy brain of me was like oh some of

2:32 this is pretty funny but it was ████ up ultimately like on the whole it was ████ up so then yeah one day me and him had a falling out because I was at VidCon pretending to be him basically I was going around to people during one of the VidCon parties while all these tubers are there and I was going like this like hey what's up ████ like this video and ████ like that and he ████ couldn't handle it he was like so he unironically would behave like that yeah yeah yeah wow but he he just didn't know who he was at the time and that's all it was it's not like he's a bad person or anything he's a really good dude and I really mean that but he was being cringey and he knows that now but I was making fun of him I was satirically making fun of him also in my Instagram pictures where I was like doing my ████ um face filters face filters and ████ cuz he was one of the people doing that many people were

3:23 doing it he was one of the main people doing it so then it became like a whole ████ thing like that and then uh yeah we had a falling out because of con where I was basically just direct across the bow shots like boom boom boom with everybody um because I was ultimately mad at him because he became not himself at all but also uh we had a coming together about a year and a half later when we were at at playlist in Florida when I saw him he was already not doing you know his marriage wasn't kicking ass or whatever but they're still together they were still together and then me and him saw each other real quickly on the floor and it was like hey we should reconnect yeah we should I'll meet you over here and then we went there and Nikki had like a glass of wine all it takes his ████ is like this much and then she she just started unloading she was like hey do

4:14 you know that every time you leave the ████ room your wife like starts ████ all over your ████ head and like treats you like you're a little ████ and stuff and like that's a tough pill to swallow it was tough and and and I have to say the way I'm saying it is not how Nikki put it yeah but it's funnier more sensitive but again putting it in a more fun way but yeah she was very sensitive very cool but she was very honest and ultimately then we started talking about how like yeah it's ████ up because he wasn't living the dream life anymore folks it's not like we were breaking up a marriage that was like so successful and awesome it was more like hey here's the truth about what's going on cuz otherwise I would say the ████ out of out of this whole what's wrong with telling him like Hey dude she's talking so much ████ ████ and I don't like it because but why is that wrong because I had a buddy who was cheating on his wife and I was there for

5:05 it and I thought it was jokes until he was actually doing it I've talked about this before but you don't want to like step in when the when she's happy and he's happy you don't want to step in that's different though that's like a different version of Guy Code it's not morally right it's like it just impedes on your morality of Guy Code when it's not your technical business agreed and and I don't want to ever do that because it's ultimately just it'll just turn the chick against you 100% which which puts you in a weird position therefore it is complicated but I will say this Colleen never liked it when me and Josh hung out because I always gave Josh confidence and she he would he's he's he's why I know that because he told me that because I I would be like Yo dude like you're a good dude like I don't understand why like you just take it and take it and take it sounds like a narcissist that had control of somebody and they didn't want other people to

5:55 influence and I think that's what ultimately happened but and dude it's so easy to villainize her too and just go she's so so s█████ so mean so s█████ I don't know her anymore I'm just talking about who she was maybe she ████ is like a ████ priest for I know but that's not good for little boys no but female priest never heard not good for little boys but maybe maybe she is maybe she's good I don't know I but I'm just saying the person that I knew was that way did I enjoy her at first yes but there became a time where I was like man like this is this is weird weird because I vouch for her but a vouch for him and like ah she shouldn't ████ on him this is actually crazy and even though I was ████ on him at the time too cuz I was like you're ████ weird now I was like this is kind of crazy coming from the wife yeah answer your question 115% and so after you told him that he was like she does like he didn't know it

6:47 really fell apart really quickly after that yeah it was like 2 months and they were done he didn't know but he didn't know that he didn't know nobody would tell him and and brings into question all there's other and yeah he was doing tuber videos while he scum too and none of these Tu scum were were telling him but they all know and they all talk ████ behind his back when she's around wow talk about great friends there was a moment too where they were on their honeymoon and a tuber was like Hey or no she reached out to a tu and was like Hey like I feel the same way as you and it was about something that I can't talk about but it was ████ up to say on your ████ honeymoon to say that ████ that's actually banana balls to say and I know that that happened and so then it's just like dude you are so scummy it's actually may be insane

7:41 allegedly who the the lady one the lady oh that's scum allegedly allegedly scum just to protect ourselves man I don't know why people are so scummy all dude sometimes I want to invite them to a crew so I could kick them off the ship allegedly the my problem chances are they won't find him my problem with Josh is that I was straight up with him because I never ever pretended to be anything else than who I am around him and he was uncomfortable with that for a while but now me and him are great because it it all just happened the way it happened see I was probably 1 15 125% it went up well I think you did the right thing cuz it was out of like some people tear relationships because it's it's motivated from jealousy or Envy or pure entertainment but it seemed like it was

8:32 out of love you were like it's going to hurt you but I broke you in Jess up because I was jealous yeah that was a different one I broke Josh and Colleen up because it was H yeah my situation he he just envious of yeah it was just en was like man he wanted to ████ you so bad how did that work he wanted him for himself I was the only one giving him that much attention so he wanted me for himself can you tell the story from your side what how did he break you up or tell it from Jess's side I mean he literally broke up in my living room so I think I own it that's yours how did he break you guys up he didn't break us up no he didn't break us up well that's what ████ were saying are you speaking from his side or or your ultimately we helped guide along me and I think there was a lot of uh gray area that we couldn't figure out as as a couple and we just needed a third party

9:23 to kind of like see the situation and tell us the real ████ yeah it's like it's like we kept bounc like bouncing ball that just didn't that couldn't have a Direction so so were they kind of like the final helping Catalyst to well yeah I think I think um it helped that another party that actually cared about us had some genuine like and it came from a place of love like it came from a place of like I care about you guys but I also want you guys to like make a godd dang decision we're all on the sidelines waiting like what are you guys doing and I'm like yeah I feel the same way I'm ████ confused man and then so I think it was like you know it took some time to kind of give the whole context so they understood too and then we we were just like oh good like it actually felt right to do that yeah I've never seen by the way I've never seen you more mature ever honestly you I mean that is such an

10:13 no no but think about the pressure of that moment Joe took it so well like when it was like Hey we're done and Joe was like so immediately pragmatic about what the next steps were he wasn't like whoo it was me or like ████ boy about it and I really really don't I'm not saying that like oh he couldn't cry in front of me or nothing you just really took it really like like a man like honestly if you are a normal human being you probably have the same issues that a lot of other people deal with when it comes to their finances you subscribe in the middle of the night to this thing or this app or whatever it is and you're like I don't know what's happening every month I'm blowing all this money and I even forgot what this membership is for I don't know what this is for well guess what rocket money is here to help you out rocket money is a personal finance

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11:53 know what to do I didn't know what she wanted to do we couldn't come to a agreement of anything so having a a direction of even though it's the unfortunate direction that was still a a sign of relief it felt like Purgatory it was like I'm not going to heaven or hell not unfortunate in retrospect though that's how life is complexity and its poetry right it ended up working out really great but in the moment I think it's like when you're in the game you can't see the game so sometimes you need a coach to kind of like help you with a game plan sometimes you don't need a coach you need a soundboard you need yeah you know what I'm saying I was I think I was 1% uh directly involved with one of my close friend one of my brothers my crew mates breakups long 1% 1% is pretty high

12:43 1% but that's the thing I'm going to listen to this with full attention that's the straw that broke the camel's back so maybe that is I was attentive and quiet during your whole ████ story okay so that's real ████ but he was 11 15% you said yours 1% yeah because you need the other spectum of conversation because there's a lot of people that will relate to my story not ████ 15% yeah what cuz they're Asian too you're racist and it's come back KKK yeah good good that being said you got to understand that 1% is also important because it's like it's like the ████ whole analogy about like a bucket of water that spills off of one more drop right that concept comes in the same way that sometimes you just need a soundboard I wasn't responsible but I remember one very very important moment in the entire relationship that one of my close friends we had a very deep conversation on a plane ride

13:33 from Europe back to the US that was it it was like he had he' been going through all his ████ already I wasn't a part of his relationship but I was a part of the last conversation on this very pivotal and maybe had a sensitive time in the relationship plane ride and then right when he got back home from that plane ride it was time to make that decision and sometimes you just need a soundboard from somebody who is not involved in your ████ to to feel emotionally not attached therefore maybe potentially more rational you know what I'm saying was he did he cry a little bit on the on the during the talk we bonded deeply we bonded very very deeply get a little more emotional it's crazy because in a public place like an airplane it's such a private experience when you're sitting next to that person for 14 hours bring us into the conversation thought you had

14:23 a middle guy in the what happened over bring in the combo he's been with this chick for like over like 6 years and he just felt like it was like um you know when you you don't want to break up with somebody cuz you feel bad stagnant you know what I mean and it's like you don't want to hurt their feelings and that's such a complex thing because that's so normal you you're so close this person is such a close friend and there's nothing wrong with it yeah but it but you can't look towards the future with an excitement of growth and something that supports things that you value to a core level especially as a more evolved human cuz the things that you appreciate in your early 20s are not the things that are your goals in your late 20s so how did you say it you should ████ up how are you like this isn't sexy the different thing is I wasn't a close friend to that girl so it wasn't

15:14 difficult for me to be like from what you're saying it doesn't sound like she's the right person for you long term but like I can understand if you like grew up together you could easily take the side of that person as a peer yes but because I wasn't like a close friend it was easy for me to not have an emotional bias towards her it was very ████ easy for me to be like well Bas off what you're saying it does I don't have the weight of your six-year relationship so it's easy for me to be like I don't know if she's the right person for you yeah I should I would have blamed the victim I'm like why you being a little ████ so like again I don't think I was influential in the relationship I think I was like the last drop in a giant bucket and then he went home and that happened and that's that's an important like to represent because like if you're just a sound not even like an influencer

16:06 and a closest friend ever you just happen to be there at the right time so somebody could like bounce rational IDE like ideas off of like that that can be very impactful yeah did you know like almost what 30 or 40% of people don't have inner ████ dialogue in their head is that right yeah so that's why some people need to say it out loud 30 to 40% it's pretty high yeah people don't have that thought and conversation you need to talk ████ out sometimes because even when you have an idea and you're convi you have conviction on that when you say it out loud sometimes you change your mind because of how crazy that sounds that's true that's a smart but that's a really reasonable way of doing things so my 1% matter ████ I that sounds like 300 kick to me like full full responsibility 3 6our plane ride come on

16:56 man that's a lot of influence here's here's the question that determine if you if you hadn't had a conversation with them do you think they would still be together today I think it would have taken longer for the same result to happen yeah I think that too ultimately me in josa yeah so you 300 KCK that means more that also means more pain turmoil a lot more complication I don't yeah and loss of opportunity because you never know what's right around the corner that you might have missed and by the way it's not like the dude that I knew was so ████ happy it's like dude it was he was a misery Fest so yeah it's like help and and so and so was Joe oh yeah ultimately misery Fest oh yeah yeah that's that's 300 SPID kick because some sometimes people are at the edge of the well and you just need your homie to kick you in the goddamn chest jump in oh they him and Nikki stood up and kicked

17:46 both of us into the yeah into differents they H you under water a little bit on the other side Jess was here I was here and they kicked us and we ████ went like that both of you are happier now and that's what we said would happen because ultimately you guys found the right people for you and that's and that's the beauty of the fear because you don't look at that well that whole that black ████ Cesspool of like uncertainty and you go like guaranteed rainbows and butterfly on the other side that's not how life works you never know what's on the other side just fear yeah but you know if you survive it you're going to be ████ fine so your friend just needs to kick your ass in sometimes crabs in a bucket tell you that relationships equal misery yeah and that's how it should be and that's ult I think that happening too with you with you guys where it's like oh well relationships are just kind of suffering so you have to just get used to the ████ it's like dude it's I

18:36 used to be that person it's not that way it's not that way I remember when I was in one of my last long-term relationships the thing that I hated the most especially when I was in my Paradox of like it wasn't so clearly this wasn't going to work but it all just like there were things that I would consistently internal dialogue complain about is when a happy couple would be around me like a close friend who and then they would just be like you know relationships shouldn't be that hard work and you're sitting there working your ass off ████ hard and not wanting to cross that line and just being like okay yeah yeah I agree they shouldn't be that hard and it still takes you months to come around and I would have never known if I hadn't been through it to the hard ████ where it's like damn my my life ████ basically blows ████ chunks there's nothing compared to right and then being with

19:26 Nikki where it's like man my life is ████ easy mode.com or.gov ████ us.edu I'm so happy and I've never not been and like me and Nikki are Gucci as mother ████ ████ and it's because we have the same love language we have the same morals we have the same like way we look at life no she said it's on the Rocks dude did she tell you that she tell you that did she tell you that I'm about to spart toi Nikki tell tell me over something about to I can't wait to be Nikki's 1% dude oh Fu I'm ████ I know you will I know you will but guess what dude I'll take your chick I'll take your chick back I'll take your and then it's anal only Anthony don't do it Anthony's like I'm so jealous of that relationship I'm going ████ them up is Jess Jess is with like a different cooler dude now

20:16 probably way cooler yeah way cooler he jealous yeah can't wait to break that one up he dabs you up like this he's like oh they have a secret handshake oh a man that kind of hurt my hand that's me just that's me just dog yeah he knows they have that white conspiracy connection going on you know we think Nicola Tesla got off because he had energy ideas conspiracy connection Dam free energy by the way well it's good to hear a 115% and a 1% yeah 0% over here I've never done that ████ ever ever for real with none of your boys ████ honestly you look like you get under people's fingernails about that ████ honestly I'll be like bro you it's on you dude you got to suffer cuz relationships are about suffering Nick judges from afar if

21:08 you're not willing to put that hard work in dude you're a ████ ████ yeah that's good relationship is like thumb get crushed on your head every morning you wake up it's just a slow definite pressure and all of a sudden you have tentis dude and you got to go to the doctor dude how did Al bunny get so pissed about that she could have ████ in my ████ face I know she so hot Peggy Bundy Peggy Bundy every the trash cuz he was looking at his daughter you think so so was I I was 8 years old though what's his 8 years old TST I didn't like Christina Applegate as much as her friends whenever she brought her whole friends her boyfriends her whole friends but her friends didn't live with her way hotter way cuter her boyfriend so ████ so stupid

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