0:05 Welcome back to Careful Whys. Today Joe is going to explain to us why guys are horrible platonic friends. >> the worst friends. Platonic friends? >> For girls and but for each other. So last night I was talking with Hannah and then she was like, "You know what's funny is I think it would be weird if a girl says that a guy is her best friend, but I don't think it's weird when a guy says a girl is his best friend." And I was like, "Why is that?" And then she's like, "Cuz what a guy needs to fulfill his friendships are completely different from what a girl needs. And if a girl is getting satisfied with their friendship needs with the guy He's gay. Or he wants 100%. And I was like, "I never saw it like that, but that's so true." Cuz she's like, "Yeah, how many of your
0:56 closest friends do you even know what their last name is? Or like who their sibling >> [laughter] >> I'm one of the s████████ friends ever. >> No, guys don't know. >> And I was like, "You're ████ right." She goes, "Yeah, I mean that's just how guys like like you don't we don't sit around and talk about like oh, you have a sister? And then what does she do? And then she does this and that. It's like we make fun of Steven and go, "Oh, you tried to ████ your sister." And then we move on. I don't even know her sister's name in real life. >> mean we don't we don't know. We don't know. >> And first of all, it's Steve Limo. Get it right. Mr. Limo. >> Mr. Limo green apple. >> Limo. >> I took in her name as my middle name. >> Just Limo or just Limo? And then yeah, so And ████ can't even keep his phone off, dude. Probably the weakest hosting we've had 2025. That's absolute ████ I've I've been killing it. I be killing it. But it's kind of like a continuation to the can platonic friends
1:47 be friends thing, right? And I was like, "This actually breaks it down way better for me than like not cuz the guy's going to want to ████ her." Which is true, too. Always. >> Which is true, too. >> If your chick is attractive and a guy's friends with her, he wants to ████ her. That's just how it is. What are you talking about? >> Nino was just telling me this story, right? Sorry, Nina. Before you go though, I also think if you're a dude and your best friend's a chick, you're gay. 100%. >> Or you want to smash them. No, yeah, duh. No, but you don't know you want to smash them. Anyways, okay. So um Nino was just telling me this story about how when she was uh a freshman in college in the dormitory, uh she was working at uh Disneyland as a parade dancer at the same time, but she didn't have a car or a license. So what she did was she befriend cuz we we were I was talking ████ on some smart cars on the
2:37 road, right? And she was like, "Oh yeah, I've been in a smart car." I was like, "When the ████ were you in a smart car?" She was like, "Uh well, when I was working at Disneyland, uh I didn't have a car. I didn't want to take public transit or anything like that. Uber or taxis or whatever were too much at the time. So there was a guy in my dormitory like down the way or whatever. Uh he had a license, but he didn't have a car. And UCI had this thing where they offered like you could like rent cars for like short periods of time and like among that fleet of cars included like smart cars cuz they're like cheap. It's like Zipcar or something." >> Wow, that's a Oh yeah, yeah. Uh service or whatever. Yeah, so um she would like ask him for a favor to go like uh you know, use his license and she would apply using his license. They would rent the Zipcar for which was often times a smart car and then he would drive her to Disneyland. And I was like, "That guy wanted to ████ you." >> She gets out of the car, he's like
3:27 >> [snorts] [laughter] >> Ooh, so much for ████ was here. >> Damn, her p████'s right there and her butt hole's right there. Did she know that or she's like, "No way." >> But that's that's my first go-to. I was like, "That guy had a huge crush on you. He wanted to get in your pants." Said he wanted to get in your pants. And then she she hesitates for a second. She's like, "Okay, I yeah, I think maybe he had a crush on him." I'm like, "Maybe?" He's like, "Happy Valentine's Day." Gives her a ████ vase with full of flowers and ████ And she's like, "I just think he's nice." I'm like, "You're telling me that a dude like goes out, let lends you his license so that you guys can rent a car so he can drive you and then you like never put out and you think that he's just doing it cuz he's a nice guy." >> Yeah, you think he'll do that for his homies? Yeah, like that's that guy's trying to trying to get some. And there was just a slight hesitation. She's like, "Yeah, I think maybe he had a crush on him." I'm like, "Of course he had a crush on you. Guys don't do that."
4:18 >> Always do this. These ████ >> Girls be uh I'm telling you girls be like that. They They don't know. They just best friend. I just friend. The whole time you're looking at that dude and you're like, "I see it right through your eyes, ████ You want some of them cheeks, motherfucker." Yeah. You know what I mean? Like ████ What was he wearing? She's like, "Oh, a tuxedo." >> [laughter] >> He He brought LIKE A BOUQUET. >> A BOW TIE, YEAH. >> YEAH. He had chocolates. >> Every day, yeah, of course. Yeah, duh. Cuz I was thinking about, too, cuz I was like, you know, guys don't even do special ████ for each other. Why why the ████ would they do it for their best homegirl? And I was like, she goes, "There's some guys where you could count on where she's like, they'll pull through. But like but they're it's it'll be more like a brotherly relationship where like he's ████ with you. He's He's using you for entertainment. He's almost bullying your ass. And that's it. And then it's
5:09 like Sounds flirty. Huh? >> That sounds flirty to me. But like not like in a touchy way, but like kind of like how Remember that video we played with Geo? >> Yeah, like not like that. Not like that. Not like that. But like you're not like smitten by them is what I'm saying. It's like you're looking at them as a piece of ████ And I can I can treat you like dirt. No, cuz we're friends. And it is it is like if you put them on a pedestal and they're precious, then you know like, "Oh, this motherfucker's into her." Another thing is um she was like, "Well, I guess some guys I can have friendships with because guys just know like certain guys like David." She's like, "I could call him up and he'll know that I just need to vent." Or like I could call most of your guy friends up and then she's like, "Maybe some of them will get it, but most of them will be like >> Yeah, well, the ones that are married with kids though, that's different. I
6:00 think you could totally be platonic. But then even then there's still an invisible line. It's like you can be friendly to a certain point. >> Yeah, going to dinners together. >> Exactly. No, [laughter] I'm I'm You'll go you might go to like coffee real quick. But then David is also like, you know, when you buy a hard drive? Wait, wait, wait. I'm I'm not I'm talking more about the the good friendship part of it, right? So like guys can't fulfill the void of what a female needs for the friendship is what I'm saying. So when she calls someone like David who understands, she could vent and then he'll get it. Whereas most guys would just be like, "Huh? Why are you complaining?" >> They can't help but try to solve her problems. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. So that's that's what she was kind of explaining here. So I was like, "That is a very small amount of dudes that would get it right away." >> You take emotional toll. And then most guys would be like, "This is annoying." Right. Yeah. Yeah, so guys can't be best friends with
6:51 girls. Nope. That's a fact. >> you can have a very, very evolved relationship that is pretty much fully platonic if you are very, very not attracted to each other. But let's talk about what a best friend is, right? A best friend you you can go [clears throat] anywhere with them, right? You guys can go on a vacation together for example. >> like the same time, let's say there is a a John and a Jane, right? They're like best friends because they're not attracted to each other. They have so many things in common. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. You're telling me John couldn't find this in a Jimmy? You know what I mean? It's like so ████ hard to have found Oh yeah, she's the chick I could ████ throw weights around with. She's the chick that I could go ████ shopping for ████ Air Force Ones. I'm like, you can like John
7:41 found somehow found 99% in common with Jane and this chick is like one of one when he can do that with a hundred other dudes like that. >> Yeah, but what if John's already got a hundred Jimmys and he's like, "I don't need a hundred and one Jimmys. Uh one Jane is is like still fresh and fun even if it's not No, that is a Because that one Jane also might have the emotional intelligence to like service a completely different necessity to that guy's friendship. Or she's not hot. As That's what I'm saying. >> Because he's gay. Or cute. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. Or like she can't be cute either, by the way. I think cuz guys have friendships around activity and hobby and common interests, right? Where like girls are there's they're way more in in your life. Like we I could have a fishing buddy for 10 years and not know what their life And he's my best friend. Or like
8:33 I think our relationship with women that we are close to, that we confide in, it's usually family members or our wives. Like I don't have girl friends that I I'm the same way with my family like the the women that are family members or Hannah, like I don't go deep with my female friends like that. >> it to you this way. Let's say we had a chick in this group, right? Not a chick in this group. Let's say we get super tight, super duper tight. The day comes we're supposed to get our tattoo. How down you think she would be? Not very. >> dudes measure friendship currency on downness. >> Yeah. And I So we don't know ████ about >> Even if it's ████ >> Even if it's ████ Let's say I I barely got to know Subin, but I can tell you if I call this fool at 3:00 a.m., I bet he'll come and help me if something
9:24 happens. But girls, their friendship currency is like ████ knowledge about each other, insights, feelings, whatever. And I think our trading currency is just way off. It's just way off. >> That's a good way to put it. I think they value different ████ >> Yeah. Cuz they think they'll just be like, "Why would I force my friend to get a tattoo? That's so ████." No, look. My buddy Ryan, I spent like three hours with him yesterday watching football and the whole time I was like, "Hey, I'm on JK all weekend. JK all weekend. JK all weekend." Which means like I'm going to be busy. And he ████ calls me like 15 minutes ago. Like no like he doesn't remember that I'm on JK all weekend. He doesn't >> Or you tell him like I I I have to work tomorrow so I have to leave early and go oh you're gay dude. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, that too. That too. Yep. Girls will be like oh my god, you should leave 30 minutes earlier. Oh my god. >> It doesn't matter. >> Yeah, it's it's different currency I think. >> Yeah. Plus I don't think like
10:14 like every time I talk to this guy he's always like well yeah, you had so many sisters and I'm like I have one sister bro. I just have one sister. But he doesn't even remember cuz guys don't we don't really like take notes about that. We remember you have one sister. >> you have? We remember you have one. I keep forgetting how many brothers you have. Yeah, exactly. I have two brothers. You've met them both. >> But you ████ the ████ out of your sister. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, my sister. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think you could find what you have in Mike in a chick and have that same bond? No, because now you're going to like my my like my best mate. You're going like to my like my my top tier. I I think I could find like my generic homies and potentially find it in a home girl, but then I won't I won't even allow myself to get there anymore now that I've like I'm I'm one and done. Exactly. >> I told for this ████ I think when you're a single
11:04 the door in general to relationships like not not necessarily romantic is just open. So then you you explore things without I I never necessarily always explored a relationship with a girl because of like I want to have sex with them. It's just like if you want to be friends if there's a mutual value like it's it could be activity, common interest, maybe you're just in school you're in a bunch of similar classes together and you need their notes. Like there's something that there's a mutual beneficial relationship and it's like cool, I'm open to it. But today I'm not going to let myself get close to a cool girl. Yeah, that's dangerous. >> was single, right? If I was single and like let's say my five out of 10 friend. So that my closest friends are 10 out of 10. My medium five out of 10 friends if I found the five out of 10 in a girl I'm going to end up trying to ████ her. No matter what. 100%. >> what?
11:54 >> Which which is why because I'm not single I'm not going to go there. >> Like if we're single, right? If we're all single whoever's teching for JK if she was hot I'm going to end up trying to ████ her. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to use your position as a leader to exploit ████ horny dog over here. I'm not even trying to it's just going to happen. >> No, but here's the beauty of it. If we had a we're all single >> And you'd ████ her too, you liar. No, if we had if we had if we were all single and we had a cute tech, right? And then I even heard one sniff of one of the guys here thinking she's hot, I'm no longer trying to ████ her. Oh, you're ████ loyal, dude. No, that's that's that's I'll be like let the best MAN WIN. WE'RE ALL SINGLE, BRO. IF THAT'S THE IF THAT'S the official con Trying doesn't mean succeeding. Why did you why you give up so quick? And what if Because because if I don't try she's not going to want me. And he could play the card hey I didn't
12:45 try. That's a cool card. It's a cool card. So you're telling me you can do you can do JK single the tech is 10 out of 10 fine but five out of 10 similar interest and you just you got to stay late to do the hosting stuff. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, ████ Week after week after week. >> We should work on thumbnails, titles. >> Y'all Y'all don't think you're going to end up ████ her? >> And nobody else is interested? And you're drinking. You don't think you're going to end up ████ her? Cuz we're all married or whatever. I mean I might be have fun. Late night teching. Have fun, huh? I'm not If I'm single, nobody else is trying and she's a 10 out of 10. You're you're not saying you're trying to get married to the five out of 10. You're saying she's a 10 out of 10 in hotness. I'm not going to try to ████ her and we're all single nobody wants her? We're going to ████ her. >> [laughter] >> All of us. And this conversation you can't have with girls cuz like
13:36 that's what Hannah was trying to tell me is like >> Girls might have these conversations with girls. >> it's completely different cuz They talk about their periods. >> No, look cuz cuz cuz here's an example, right? You're not you're not going to fall in love? So first example is she was like yo in the 10 minutes of me talking to Colleen I got more out of her personal life everything than you guys did in the five ████ years that you guys were trying to pry. >> I don't know ████ about her. Sounds like us. I know she has brothers who are in the military, let's go. Like it's she's like it's what you guys asked. She has brothers who are in the military. I don't think his brother's in the So what Hannah? No, he wasn't. I'm talking about Hannah. No, he doesn't have Oh, Hannah. No, no, she's talking about Colleen. SEE EVEN THAT DUDE THIS ████ don't listen. >> No, I'm not listening. I was thinking about I was thinking about the next video. It's going to be a banger. She goes second thing is like when we hooked up, right? Bart messaged me and he goes did you get your balls drained, right? And she goes that's what guys guys what
14:27 that's what we would ask each other. Can't ask that to a Oh, when you and Hannah first got >> Yeah, and she goes you know what my girlfriends asked? I was like what? Are you safe? Is he cool? Like what's going on? Like what time are you going to You know like No, we're more similar than you think. Do you remember the first thing I asked? I said did did she butt? >> [laughter] >> That's what I'm saying. That's what guys do. >> Hey, you know how girls will be like oh my god those are really cute shoes. Right? Right? You know how the girls will do that to each other? What did I say about your ████ slides yesterday? You told me to wear so I said ████ you. I was I was like I I thought they were tight. I'm I'm giving you the same compliment. >> You're more feminine. We know you're more feminine. >> I'm very I'm coming out in 2026. It's fine. What do you guys think? >> Mah who?
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