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Off the Record: Let's Talk Fight Stuff

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0:00 why you just bet for your guy I don't want to bet1 win $16 hey but that if that was real estate that would be a great return Roi 16% yeah low risk except we start comparing sports bets to real [Music] estate welcome back to another Jason chenny that's so nice episode of the careful boys where he had just admitted that this is way more fun than tiger belly oh my speak on it dude why do you have to me right off the bat like this man speak on it you have 20 minutes to speak on it speak remember this is a good podcast okay yes um say say another thing okay fine I'll save you all right thank hey let's talk

0:51 fight stuff huh let's talk fight Islam's winning what now you're going to find out brother usually we got to find out we got to find out all right we're going to talk about it we got to get this out today fight stuff there's lot so we're going to talk about a lot of fight stuff but let's go talk about think we actually we don't have time anymore cuz we should have done this video yesterday well then this is true JK fashion we're going to get this out after the fight and then we're going to see how we're going to eat our words okay wait yeah yeah you're right cuz the video I mean it's the fights tonight so we'll have K edit it right now okay thank you next week thank you K thanks K yo best Dustin b he's going to take it DP you going DP so so we'll talk UFC first we'll talk UFC and is this is this the UFC 302 tonight and this is the title card this is the title fight this for the title for the lightweight let's go around the room Islam versus DP you

1:43 said Dustin's winning that's what about you Joe who do you I don't know that's why I asked you guys in the group chat who do you think is winning I don't know but I want I want the odds favor but the thing is it's is it going to be too late before we put in the BET who's going to put in the bet for us oh right cuz Steve's not even in Vegas huh there's an illegal site we could use well that's why he's not here no usually when he's not here it's cuz he's in Vegas yeah no but I thought cuz usually comes on the first weekend no no he switched to the third because of the the Tosi week and then ever since then he's only come to the the third but he supposed to switch back but I think it's because Nikki has something to do so she has to go with them you're literally in charge of scheduling so I don't know what you're doing because you guys just hung out in real life so I thought you guys let me call him real quick see if he can make the bet I'm SCH let's see if he can make the bet no you're you're okay oh yeah yeah I him you can make the

2:34 BET what I wanted to do is Nick thinks One Way Bart thinks another way and I want them to convince me who I should bet well let's let's see if we can even make a bet and if we can't then we'll just I think he's in the ████ Caribbean or some ████ that was last month bro he already came back then I don't know why he's not here then he just told you you're going to bet your rent I'll bet my rent on porier holy ████ okay I'm I I need it so we'll explain that right now so so po po po is like a plus 400 Underdog so that means you bet $100 on PO you win 400 but I'm saying so look can I say something can I say Dustin po I believe look Islam makev is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world that means he the he's the best Grappler he has really good striking and he has a

3:25 really good overall grapp uh MMA game and the best at mixing exactly what do they mean when they say pound for pound it's not like pound for ounce so if if they were so if he fought if he was a heavyweight he'd beat everybody and if he was a lightweight he beat everybody in the lightweight division is what you're saying so regardless like you take his skill set and you put him in any weight class he's beating everybody right all things equal now you know right y but Dustin poer is a longtime vet he's fought for the title a lot of different times he's been in big big big fights and he's saying that this is his last title run he's like this is my last dance but didn't you also say that he always loses his title shot he has he has he's never been champed that's a good one that's a good one but that's why I I he's never been champ no he's never been UFC Undisputed champ he's been like interim champ right I think

4:16 they just give him a chance to he's definitely champ level though he's champ level he's beat Max Hollow so he's like he's like Carl Malone right now kind of he's beat yeah like no rings right but up there it depends do you think this last dance is going going to be his like he's going to finish well and actually get it or he's going to the repeated streak of never winning it see that's that's going to be the hard thing right it's that's going to be the question that we have to answer but skill set wise right his way to win is probably going to knock out Islam makv that's not going to happen he has really dangerous hands he has very dangerous hands he has been he has been knocked out Islam makv has been knocked out by a guy who's a southpaw DUS Bo is a southpaw one time right one time long long time ago long time ago only one time it was only one time but so there's news coming out that

5:06 Islam makev has a staff infection on his foot oh right on his leg and he's like they there's a video of him like walking in weighing in and he's like hobbling a little bit and that's that's very significant because you get a staff infection you you just feel like ████ and then you're taking antibiotics which makes you even worse at fighting like your conditioning goes to ████ your strength goes to ████ but if yold cuz it has probiotics it balances it cuz then when you take antibiotics it kills it but you got to replenish it I don't even know if you can take that cuz he has to make weight and it tastes too good you got to drink whole and also I don't know Dagan is know by y cult dude Louisiana is all that ████ yeah yeah but Nick isn't doesn't por see this is his last shot cuz he's going to retire after this potentially if he wins he may not retire but if he loses he'll probably retire what's the odds on betting on Islam you bet 100 it's I

5:57 think I think it's he's minus 500 damn so look we that you bet 100 you make five bucks no you bet you have to bite you have to bet $500 to win $100 oh on Islam you bet 100 you make 20 so that's the thing about dis he's a live dog right now and then there's there's another interesting storyline there's this guy named Paul Costa Who has fought uh who's fighting in the co-main event one of the sexiest fighters ever yeah he's the secret juice guy so there's a really interesting curse that they call they call the Paulo Costa curse the last nine fights that he's been on the defending Champion always always loses mhm nine fights in a row his whole entire career anytime he's been on a pay-per-view card the M the guy the defending Champion has always L get him out of the UFC man so there's a really interesting stat so which is why then which is why I would now based off just

6:47 this alone I'm putting 50 bucks on pory he's a live dog that's what I'm saying so this is all nonight stuff right this is all Noni stuff yeah right has nothing to do with skill set this is all magic over here actual fight stuff Islam's corner khabib has Dustin's number he whooped the ████ out of him and Dustin himself has said he was made to feel a certain way he's never felt by any other man like he was like just straight up helpless felt like he was drowning that's his Corner this is also khabib's training partner since they were ████ kids Islam's just knocked out volovski with the leg kick so his striking is on another level his wrestling we already know it's on another level they go to war in uh in the gym with heavy weights all the time I think to people like khabib and Islam anyone that's their weight class they're literally fighting

7:37 a child that's how they view things and Dustin as much as I like him and his personality is dope he's uncoachable in his last fight you hear his coach go stop with the guillotine ████ 25 times that was true but he still won yes but against someone like Islam you can't be making the same mistake twice if your coach gives you an adjustment okay switch to Southpaw okay watch this left hook you need to be he already shows he's uncoachable if he wants to do something he's going to go down that way against Islam I think that's a ████ dangerous recipe that's what's scary it is because scary also I think because Dustin you know though the times he wasn't listening is because you know he he knows he got to fight the next one he knows what he got through this one but he almost lost because of it it wasn't

8:27 like a clear but there's something in fighting too where guys like I think Dustin he thrives in chaos you know I mean and like if you could Islam makab is a I would say a finesse fighter right and the old thing in any striking sport or any combat sport it's like you got to take the the Finesse fighter out of their game and make them and put pressure on them and make them feel uncomfortable right do that to Islam that's the thing is like but but if Dustin po can tag him if he can hurt him with one of those shots and just make him second guess himself a little bit which happens in fighting all the time all it takes is one shot right one opportunity one opportunity one what does he say what else did he say Mom spaghetti no but like he he does have that potential where he could crack Islam and um and make him change right he can change how he fights but that's a

9:18 very tall order I think is it's a very tall order is going to ride him like a horsey that's what they always say I think I'm very I'm very scared of that because because in this last faor too right in his last fight one thing that really opened my eyes of Islam is you just think of him as a Marauder a ████ Smasher like all the other dagani guys yeah the way he set up bosi to bring his hand down like he was throwing only lower body kicks leg kicks the whole time to bring his leg down and finally land the head kick I was like oh ████ this guy just added game plan to his toolbox mhm and so with someone that likes chaos where Dustin's like let's just ████ WP for a minute and then we'll figure it out in that minute when he's just trying to like get the edge off ████ Islam is cracking the code

10:08 yeah and then when he wants to I think he's going to have him set up in so many different ways where he's just what about the Staffing faction well that's against Dustin's favor yeah but when no Islam has a St effect oh Islam has it yeah oh no yeah so so Islam has what up guys thank you for watching us for so long if you like what we do please support our patreon Joe tell them what we have to offer so every week you get two videos one never released director's cut and another one too hot for YouTube patreon only every freaking week you get that and you get access to our Discord where you can come chat with us and ask us questions that become episodes here cuz we're going to answer them and we're going to take it seriously and we want to give you the responses that you want so come stay connected with us join our patreon click the description below for

10:58 full details so that's that's and we don't know if it's true or not he's saying it's not true right but if you look at the pictures of the duso the last guy he fought people were saying oh this dude uh Beno St he had a little cut on his forehead everybody's like I think that's a staff inection they were saying that before the fight and then when he lost the guy got beat up by po he goes I had a staff inection how much are you putting on PO I was going to put like 100 bucks on PO me and Tiff are Tiff wants to do it she's the one that's like put $100 yeah I was like list right now or as of s 7 hours ago Islam is- 600 porier is plus 440 wow so the lines moved even more they even moved more towards uh Islam's fa so Islam's yeah the clear favorite so after the Ws they win even more but here's the thing

11:48 though too trying to win $20 this year alone this year alone in in Combat Sports in general there's been a ton of upsets right boxing there was Tyson Fury that lost right um in this year alone I think or on the last four fight cards where um f the the main event the uh sorry the favorite is uh minus 400 two out of four times they've lost so 50/50 odds like whenever there's a high favorite for the for the for the champion two out of four times they've lost so it's it's still like a coin toss flip right so who knows what the ████ is going to happen I think MoneyWise probably bet on yeah if you want to win big yeah it's you put 50 bucks on Dust po you be okay with losing it can't you just okay so I'm not great on who wants to put a grand

12:39 on I would have put a grand if Islam's minus 600 that means you got to bet 600 to win 100 right so isn't that the same thing as if you bet 100 you basically win like a sixth of it so like you win 16 bucks no look you put a grand in and then you win 4,400 yeah yeah four for the other I'm just like hear me out with the math so if I put a 100 bucks on Islam right then I'll win 16 if he wins that's whack all right but DUS PO is Plus for 40 if I put 100 on Dustin I win 440 yeah okay so why not just bet 100 on both cuz if Islam wins right then I literally am just up 16 cuz I no no I'm down I'm down I'm down like 84 I'm down 84 but I'll say this if if you want to bet on so you head so you head so you hedge so let's

13:29 say you bet 50 so I'm down I'm down uh like uh 40 bucks if I lose right but if I bet 50 on porier then I'm up like I'd say this I'd say I'd say put 200 on the ████ Underdog because who the ████ cares about losing $85 okay look look here's a better Play here's a better play you head yourself to the ratio slightly is all I'm saying well if you're going to put $200 in the P us usually if there's a clear favorite if there's a clear favorite like Islam if you bet um a method of Victory with whether it's KO submission or decision the odds are usually better so like I think it might be a good bet to be like hey let me look at Islam for submission all right submission win oh you don't have to pick the submission it's just submission just submission win I bet what's the submission odds I don't know we have to check can you look cuz I think or or you throw it in a parlay

14:19 with another fighter that you think is a lock that's a good hedge so it's like I think you could do that and then you could do a straightup bet for Dustin puer maybe are we going to do the same thing we did last time and we picked the three winners wait wait how do how do we make this bet uh I don't know I usually just give money to someone yeah soone that's going to Vegas for the night all right this is what we're going to do okay whatever your beted is times it by five and then beted on the other dog so you're betting on the underdog no matter what I think the odds just make sense to me because like if we're just going based on um who's winning and the odds right so like if you're going to put a like $100 in to get back 440 to me that's a better risk than $100 to get back $16 stupid yeah

15:12 that's stupid but what if the submission is good I mean if the submission bumps it up way more so you bet on poier on the money line to win and you bet on Islam on the submission to win or in combination with the parlay whatever the better odds are cuz I don't know what the odds are for Islam to win by some I'm also not confident with Shan Strickland PA Costa are you that one's I'm not touching that fight that's a 5050 Sean's going to lose but y you think so Sean Strickland is minus 258 so he's favored and Pa Costa is plus 210 why you think Sean's going to lose almost said pa Costa really why you think Sean's going to lose because I think he's just been slacking Sean's been slacking Sean strickling I think he's just been he's been chilling too much he's been ████ up too many are you sure I don't know dude that guy that guy trades ████ hard yeah he goes to war every day dude get me he's sparring two day he's sparring hard with Johnny eblin who's the the pfl champ he's doing

16:04 that two days before his fight yeah he spars hard every Strickland's my favorite I love this guy but I think he's going to he's not going to take this but I'll say this Pao Costa did look really good in his last fight that's the that's the problem like he he did look really good against um Whitaker and he's you know he's a big strong durable guy and you know what we should just quit everything else and just become sport betters yeah let's do that I think this is fun we only had one real win so far though no we got two oh two we're two for two right now I won I won the Super Bowl a couple times against you guys technically we're three for three I W the last four boxing come on baby for real for real we need to bet with you you picked uh I'm not good at it you picked inano to lose huh did you pick Ino to lose not that one I didn't you pick Tyson Fury to lose oh yes Fury I thought he was going to suck ass what

16:54 about the rematch in December I don't know yet I don't know yet we should they're talking about Fury usk we got to be professional sports betters but also have influence to rig the fight and that's called the mafia yeah let's go baby does it say the odds on the for Islam for submission yeah what do does it say is there anything in there I'm down cuz that might be the smarter bet if the odds are good did you bet on the Ryan Garcia and yeah but everyone picked uh Haney I was like why I put Garcia and I want because of the odds or because you really believe because he was ████ around and getting drunk and doing a bunch of crazy stuff so he ████ up his own odds and B on himself no I was fixing my motorcycle while watching it and I bet Garcia was going to do it I was working hard Garcia was working hard I knew he was was he the underdog he was yeah he was everybody hated and he purposely set it up he went on a bunch of podcasts to look like he's

17:44 coked out and drunk and ████ and then he came out after I did all that ████ for fakes fake which is insane because he bet a million on himself and then he end up coming out like ████ 12 million okay so Islam to win by submission f ████ Insider traded himself yep that's ████ dope he rigged his own fight minus 120 so if I bet 100 you you have to bet 120 to win 100 man he's on suck they're super sucky right that's why you kind of have to you have to put it with a parlay with somebody else I I'm not I don't know I'm not confident with the other then that's why you put like 50 yeah kind of like to make it simple you just go hey just put like 50 bucks on P if you think about it this way right if he's going if you're going to bet on him anyway and you just want to guarantee 20 bucks then it's like just do it I go Randy Brown Islam I'm done to

18:34 do 50 bucks on Dustin porier then cuz like even if Islam wins you're like oh damn that was 50 bucks but you know what I mean but if if Bor wins you're like holy ████ over 200 yeah so where do we uh 220 how do we send his money we just VMO Steve right if he's in Vegas you're the one who knows the schedule all right so we bet I'll my in Vegas too yeah bro it's going to be a crazy fight but I never I never bet on anyone I thought I was going to lose before this is crazy I do it all the time really oh ████ that's me all the time I'm always against it we bet on ourselves and suddenly we all have the same matching tattoos on our legs you don't laugh you have stupid matching tattoos too yeah once you get a tattoo with us all let just bet for your guy cuz it's a guaranteed win if you wins I don't want to bet 100 to win $16 think about was all the money you

19:25 could do with that hey but that if that was real estate that would be a great 16% yeah low risk low risk except we start comparing ████ Sports bets to real estate we're ████

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