0:00 No, you authentically kick the guy while he's down. And I think I thought that was tight. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> I'd wear a shirt that says kick a guy while he's down if it was your merch. I really would. >> Kick the guy when he's down. >> Shirt with a footprint right here. >> Yes. Sick. >> You guys remember this game where if you if you look at it, you get punched. I wouldn't even play that with Mike Tyson. >> I'd be scared s███████. >> Game. It's an American game. So American like as a kids if you make if you go like this. Oh, that one. Yeah, your friend. Yeah, >> you suck them in the shoulder. >> Unless they take their finger and they they got to go. >> That's how you stop it. >> You stop it. >> Yeah. >> So, that's what Barton and Jason was doing on that little video. >> Yeah, pretty much. >> Yeah. Are we playing that? That's the official rules of this game. Even though really our eye level is already so close. >> People would just do that version
0:51 >> all the time. >> And they're they pretend like they're tying their shoelaces, picking something up. >> ████ >> Hey, did you drop this? There's a kid actually in the PT room in the UFC PI that always does that. >> Hey, did you drop this? And he's like, >> "Oh man, >> in the UFC room." >> Every time. Every time. What? >> What if he loses? >> Yeah. I mean, no. No. No. There's no punch. They just keep ████ each other on that. But >> dude, no punch. There's no stakes. >> The one. Yeah. I wouldn't play like that with Sean Strickland, for example. >> Oh, he actually hit you. >> Yeah, he will. >> Yeah. >> How about this? In the UFC world, >> if you could fight anybody, who would it be? Like right now? >> True. Right now, I would fight anybody out of the top 15 >> outside like like 16 and down. >> 17, 18, 19, 20. >> Yeah, dude. They have like 100 plus people in each division. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. It's crazy. >> So, that means you see yourself around
1:43 15, 16. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. >> What if you got like a Rocky Balboa shot where they're like, "We want you to fight Jon Jones." >> I mean, it is what it is. So, I'm saying like like if you get an opportunity like that, we already like I would do that before I do a freaking uh Jake Paul fight. >> I mean, Jon Jones hopefully kills me fat. >> Wouldn't that only benefit him even if he loses? >> Hopefully, he doesn't beat the ████ out of my knee before he tries to finish me. >> Do the glass and the glue on his gloves from kickboxer. >> Yeah, I'll be looking like what's what's his name? Ryan Hall. You guys know who Ryan Hall is? That guy that he hooked BJ Ben a while back in MMA. He just always does that. He got knocked out on the last one. So now like nobody's like hyping him up anymore. But for a while he was just heel hooking everybody. He was just like shooting to people's legs and made people don't like I mean even jiu-jitsu people have a hard time for leg locks too. So MMA people definitely
2:33 are scared of those. Everybody think oh surgery. >> Let's go like actual names. Top three people that you'd be down to like fight right now >> in your division. What division would you be fighting at? 155. >> I'll be doing 55. >> Okay. 55. Who would you be down to fight >> right now? Let's say Dana White's right here. Tomorrow we'll sign you. We'll sign the fight. Who would be Who would you be down to fight in the 55 division? >> ████ I would fight anybody. Any guy, honestly. >> Any guy. Is Taporia the current >> Would you fight a guy in a Would you fight a guy in a wheelchair? >> Yeah. >> Like the champion? Oh, no. He's the current champion. Former champions are Isla Makv and Charles Olivera. >> Yeah, >> but him and Charles are friends. >> Yeah. >> Would you fight Toporia? >> ████ yeah. Yeah. Why not? ████ yeah. Yeah, >> isn't he in the top 15 for that? >> Well, he's the top one is lit.
3:23 >> It depends on >> topir is lit. Topir he's hard as hell. Very composed. But why not? You know what I'm saying? Even the chance of getting there and like getting getting to like throw down these guys would be lit. Now, if I'm being honest honest like if they gave me that deal like right now like, "Hey brother, like you know we we we love what you're doing jiu-jitsu. You're going to fight right away the the best guy in the division in that case. I'll do it as long as like I have a good contract that guarantees I don't get kicked out right after that in case I ████ it up, you know, because there's guys that do that. >> You're still worried about the >> I mean, they jump they jump in the UFC too soon. You jump in the UFC too soon and then you go there and you you ████ the bed, right? Like you end up like finding out right then and there. Oh, this level here is a lot different and you lose. They send you home and you have another five years, six years sometimes or more or you just never come back and you're beating all these guys outside and they're just like, "No, we don't care." So, this is like what Joe was talking about just off camera when like there's like uh there's a business
4:14 to it once you get at the professional sports level like that, right? >> Yeah. I don't I don't know like a lot of like I don't I wouldn't say there is business on the sense of like you know you're supposed to lose this. Not in the UFC. I don't believe >> it's not full on corruption or anything. >> No, there's like nobody >> business strategy. It's not I wouldn't call it business. I would call it dynamics. >> There's dynamics in play. a lot of behind the scenes. >> Yeah, that's what I'm coming from. >> But I wouldn't call it business. So, for example, one of the things he's talking about is like uh before you would be like, "Okay, let me I'm going to rush my way into the UFC, but because they have such a long waiting list of people." If you blow your chance, you go back in line and it might be another 5 years before you come in. But like, let's say you blew your chance at 33, you're
5:04 coming back in at 38. >> You're out. Yeah. Yeah, you're out of your prime. Yeah. >> You're not going to be You're not going to be on the talk for like fighting for a bell anymore. >> Yeah. You're not That's already out of the question. Like a lot of implied things are out of the question. >> How old are you? >> I am 29. >> Clock's ticking, brother. >> Yeah. So that's why I'm like not trying to go there and be like >> so stupid. >> I know nothing. I know literally nothing. >> Yeah, there's strategic plays, right? But but I want to say you're competitive all the way up to 35, 36. After that, it's like straight up just like, you know, that's just like science. your body's going to start dropping. >> How much does your like uh story and character matter? Cuz remember that one dude, the one white guy that was like he was doing decent but he was getting no attention but then he he has that >> Kobe. Kobe Coington. >> Kobe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> He he turned around and it was all character and now he's like >> the guy because he h he's recognizable.
5:56 Do people try to develop that kind of personnel? >> There there's a lot of guys that that go that route. Yeah, there's a lot of guys that go there. There's even guys that like there is actually who they are in the background a little bit, >> but they like make that sound really big, you know? Like I'm a little bit of a dick, too. I'm not going to lie. But I I'm mostly a cool guy, you know? I'm a little bit an ████ if I need to be. >> You're you're a soccer kick guy now. >> If you see on that fight like Right. Like so like riding the fight, I'mma show like the worst, you know? I'm I'm be an ████ if I need to be. But now if that means I make 100,000 or I make a million, you'll be 10 times the ████ that you already were. You know, I don't feel like a lot of you is just acting. There's other guys like, "Oh, no, Dad. He's actually a good guy. He's not really an asshole." It's like, "No, he kind of is an ████ but he's cool to be an extra ████ for the right amount
6:46 of hype and money." >> No, you authentically kick the guy while he's down. And I think I thought that was tight. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> I'd wear a shirt that says kick a guy while he's down if it was your merch. I really would. >> It's a guy when he's down. >> Shirt with a footprint right here. >> Yes. >> Yeah. I They actually have like this guy with a tattoo. There's like a slipper, >> a flip-flop, and it's like basically his mom like and it's written like, "You're not everybody." Something like that. And it's like, yeah, something that he says. >> For um in your case, is the reason why you're going to UFC is because like you kind of hit the peaks with jiu-jitsu. Now you want to go to another thing that's like >> and then there's more like a career future for UFC and stuff like that or >> Yes, 100%. So in jiu-jitsu I feel like right now right now we actually like jiu-jitsu speaking. Um, now we're all
7:37 hoping that it's going to blow up and get even better and we, you know, people are not going to have to do the transition to go towards MMA to make like some crazy money, but uh, it's still not a place where you're going to make money competition wise comp, you know, like there's also other ways of doing it. Like you you like you can use like your image to leverage your career in different ways, right? like you've become an influencer now because you got famous in jiu-jitsu or you or you you know you sell a lot of DVDs or you travel the world. I don't know. There's like different ways you could actually make money outside of competition. But in competition like the biggest paycheck you're going to get like even if you're the best best guy right now I want to say is more likely like up to 100,000 which is like sounds sick right jiu-jitsu you're not getting punched in the face but still like it's a lot of naughty training. you only have like so long to do this and you know it has to
8:27 be the right matchup for you to make that much money. So you're not going to make him that money every single time you step in. So my point being is in MMA you can now make probably million million and a half if you're a D guy you know maybe two million maybe a little more if you if you're really like hyped up up there not even close to boxing you see like when you're talking about Anthony Joshua them how much money those guys make it's insane so hopefully that will change in the future you know and MMA guys will actually make even more money which would be lit again even a million dollars for a fight it's already like sick you know like I'll probably be set if I use that money the right way, >> right? >> And then I'll be able to have like a retirement, you know, and a life. And again, you only live once, so you want to make big money. That was kind of my point with getting out of jiu-jitsu and trying to go towards MMA is I feel like in MMA, I'll get more reward for the
9:17 style that I try to to fight in jiu-jitsu. Like in I'm the aggressive guy that going to send it and go balls to the wall and hope for the best, you know? And it's sometimes highlight comes in my way and I kill the guy. Sometimes I get I get caught, too. But I'm always going to show up and like, you know, it's going to be someone that you want to watch. >> But then I don't feel like jiu-jitsu has rewarded me back as much as I wished, you know, as far as like hype or even getting like enough money for that. But now now, right now, right now, I'm actually doing pretty pretty pretty good cuz I'm doing UFCJJ. So, you know, there's like the right people is there. So that's the reason why I also like for me MMA sounds even better right now because me doing good AFCJ hopefully getting another title shot cuz I just blew that that one the the last time I went I actually had a title shot I lost so I got to work my way back fight that
10:08 again hopefully I win that title go to the UFC and they like me a lot better because I'm coming in as a UFC BJJ champion already if that makes sense. So, for people that don't know, UFC, they their main like promotion is the MMA stuff that we all watch on pay-per-view, but they've been developing UFC BJJ, which is trying to put uh BJJ in the limelight. So, they have their own divisions, their own champions, and everything. So, he competes in MMA, trying to get into MMA for the UFC, but he's he's one of the top like three contenders in the UFC BJ stuff. >> So, they're trying to build stars. >> So, he's in UFC BJ, right? >> Yeah, he is. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I get I get like uh I get a lot of the perks that the UFC guys already get. So, I get to go to UFC performance institute. I get to have free PT and breakfast and lunch and strength conditioning and nutritionists and uh I
11:00 train my my own striking training is there because my coach actually coaches guys out of there. So, basically every UFC fighter can bring about three people to train. So, I have like a giant room of UFC guys and and other people training. So, I I'm always at the UFC Performance Institute. So like I am one of the few people who are basically like I I don't want to say it's like they're not like programming me to be the next thing but in a way as they're investing on me as like yes we know we we hope for the best. We we see potential and I'm basically like right now using all of that to hopefully leverage my career and be the next big thing in in MMA. Now do I believe that I'll have the best jiu-jitsu MMA? 100% I believe so. If I get to the UFC, I'll have the best jiu-jitsu to show there. Now, Charles Oliver right now holds that title and I'm not trying to fight that guy for it.
11:50 He he been there since he's 20, I think 19, 20. So, it just took like 15 16 years for him to win that many fights. I'll probably never beat his record as far as like submissions. Unless I only get submissions every single every single fight I get, you know, then maybe I'll pass like his submission record, but even then it's like tough. I'm not trying to do all that, but I want to go there and kind of take back from, you know, whatever Islam is doing right now, right? He's showing that like he because he he represents ████ you know, even though he's getting finishing people with actual submissions most of the time or TKOs's, he still represents ████ I want I want to go to the UFC and bring back the jiu-jitsu side and be like, "Okay, remember Rice Gracie? There you go. Look, we do a whole turnar around and I'm back like showing the jiu-jitsu is the the best thing." Now I'm soccer kicking people right now, but my goal is for I just want people to like look the other direction.
12:40 >> It's Brazilian. >> Very Brazilian. Yeah. Very Brazilian. >> Yeah. So I just want people to like look right now and be like, "Okay, this guy's trying to strike. He's not even doing jiu-jitsu. I want them to fully like try to forget about that side. They probably won't, but I want them to expect me to always be there." But like you never know when it's going to be the day that I'll go there and just go full on Hamzachi M and just shoot right off the bat, you know, and make to jiu-jitsu. like if I if he need be like you guys are saying like oh he's going to fight to period I'm not going to I'm not going to strike for Ilia to period but if I can get him to where I'm good at then you know he he better be ready for that which I'm sure he's going to be like he's going to be game uh the main like I said like the top three even the top 15 guys they're going to be tough it's going to be hard but all all the other guys outside of that I know that I I can get in there and get it now I start beating those guys then we talk about it but right now me just talking out for my
13:31 ass. It's easy. >> I'm going to I'm going to rapid fire names out of the top 15 in your weight class right now and you just be like, "Yes, no." >> You got to stop complimenting these dudes. You got to You got to cut some promos, brother. >> Cut some promos. >> 100%. But here's the thing. They actually might be listening to it. >> Hell yeah. >> Hell yeah, brother. >> They're actually going to get this and make like, "F███ yeah. PUT THIS ████ RIGHT NOW." >> Hell yeah. >> Dude, we're signing deals. >> Pull me right now outside of the top 50 first. Starting >> one fight 16. >> Give me one fight that's in the top 15. >> Can you clip that and put like behind that? Like >> I'll give you number 16 first. Ludvit, Mr. Highlight Klein. Ludvit Klein. See, you don't even know, huh? All right, move on. >> You got to go up more. >> Number 15, Michael Chandler. Yes or no?
14:22 >> Michael 15. >> He dropped to freaking 15. I mean, think about it. How many fights has he lost? >> He has. He has in the last one. Now, it doesn't mean that he's number 15 in my head. It means that he's number 15 right now in the ranks like >> cuz he's like a legend now. >> I would put him like number six, seven >> in the in the last seven. I think he's only won two, >> but he only fought. >> But he's fighting like the killers though. But Michael Chandler. Yes or no? Yes or no? >> I'LL FIGHT MICHAEL CHANDLER. >> OH, >> I'M NOT SAYING going to be easy, but I'm fighting a war. >> All right. Ignasio Bahamundes. >> Did he say under 15 or top 15? >> We're on top 15 right now. >> That's a tough one. I I don't really remember. So I know who it is the guy, but I don't remember him. >> Oh, I don't know you, brother. That's what you say. >> I don't know who you are, brother. >> I do not remember you. >> All right. From Brazil. >> I do not recall his last fight >> from Brazil. Hanato Mo.
15:14 >> Hanato Mo. There you go. That's one of my guys. I mean, yeah, why not? >> He could be the only one. The only Hanato. >> What's his name? >> Yeah, there can only be one Hanato. >> Yeah, there's only one Hanato, dude. >> Can't have that. >> All right. Grant Dawson. K Dawson. Uh, I'll take the fight. >> Benois St. Denise, the god of war. >> There you go. That guy, that guy actually has uh decent decent ground, too. >> Wait, is that guy the special forces guy? I >> think so. The dude with the beard who genuinely look >> like you got two. Yeah, you put a top 15. This guy's already seasoned and >> Yeah, everyone's already a killer. >> It really could. Yeah. Yeah. >> Looking for yes or nos. We're not looking for explanations. >> Cutting promos, coach. We're cutting promos. Yeah. Yeah. >> Right after right after my first one. >> Okay. So, you have to say yes. Second fight. Yes or no? And then how you would beat them. >> Yeah. Yes. No. And then cut the promo.
16:04 >> Yeah. >> It's going to be awesome. Mission after top 15. I'm not trying to knock on nobody. >> Say something about their mother right after that. >> Oh no. >> That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. >> Or what you do to their dad and a sexual way. >> I want to be I want to be Yeah. Yeah. I I want to become like a big deal, but I want to do through like I said like, you know, through how I fight. I don't want to become Dylan Dennis. Because I came to JK News. I was like, I beat any UFC guy. ████ them. >> We We'll save the rest for another video. We don't We don't want to get into the top 10 and then he gets pushed right into the UFC and he's screwed. >> That's crazy. Yeah. Then I can shut this guy
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