0:00 [Music] What's up everybody? Welcome back to a very sweetheart episode of the character boys where we want to dig into some Nick and Tiff high school stories. Are we doing this for real? We're doing this for real. Dude, that sounds so interesting. You literally just blew our mind right now while we were just like recollecting on lame things in school that are just fun to think about now and you're like, "Yeah, dude. When I was hollering at Tiff and it's like wait, yeah, dude, that's crazy. actually got with your high school crush. That's like a lot of dream come true, you know, like you you always had that girl in class, you're like you're again, oh my god, you can't believe and you finally see her and then you start talking to her, you get closer and it wasn't like even a bad choice. If anything, like she got the shortened the stick. She for sure got the stick. I was thinking about the other day. I was like, damn, bro. Like
0:50 she reallyed up. She could have had she could have something way better. I saw her IG stories recently. She got that like sick like bag. Is that a coach bag or anything? Like Sarah Michelle Geller or whatever like she's like styling stuff. She's like I can't wait to go like mash his belt and there's a photo with you next to her and you're just wearing like Crocs and like a fanny pack. What up? Cuz she's the star of the show. I'm supposed to be very understated so you know you can't notice me. Okay, that's good. That's good. But then I make her look like ████ Tell some high school sweetheart stories, dude. How the gameplay, the feelings, the butterflies. Man, that was like a long saga, dude. cuz we were friends for a really long time when we first met. Like we were friends before we started like I was like I'm holler at this ████ When did you from friends did you have feelings in the beginning or was it friends and then Yeah. There's no way Nick was like let me holler at this girl
1:40 like it it had to awkwardly develop. Like when I first met her, I met her in like an advisory class where we like all everyone just sits together and do like homework. Counseling type ████ kind of. It's like 30 minutes. It's like in between second and third per I forgot what it was. Like a home room. Yeah, it was like a home room. You just ████ work on you tutoring or whatever, right? So, we're sitting down and I just remember talking to Tiff and I just remember, you know, I was a sophomore, so I didn't really talk to that many girls. When I started talking to her, I was like, "Yo, this this is just easy." That's I just remember feeling I was able to make her laugh with my stupid dumb joke. I was like, you know, trying to be funny and stuff. Were you like, "She looks like Selena. I didn't know I like Latina." It wasn't It wasn't even like that. It was just like it it it really was like, "Yo, you're just easy to talk to and this is just kind of natural." Like it was a fun rapport like any other chicks. Yeah. Like I had like
2:31 crushes on other girls, but it was never like nah. Like I I was very picky. I like nah. I was that dude like she's her eyebrows are too close together or whatever. Like whatever the ████ I always find Did you Did you while you were just like being friends with her have like a crush on another chick at that time when I first met her? Not really. No. cuz I always had like five crushes at a time. You a player, dog. Like I remember thinking like I just I just liked a lot of people. I remember when I was at that age, I remember thinking like, yeah, these girls are cute, but I just was like, I'm just trying to make friends. That was it. I was trying to make as many friends as I could. Um or just like, you know, have try to be funny and ████ right? Try to like make people laugh or whatever. So like u cuz that's how I felt like it was easy for me to connect with people. So I just try to be cool and chill. But when I first uh she would always just hang around in
3:22 my classes, so we didn't really talk much for a little bit, but every time I would see her, I'd always go out of my way to go talk to her, you know? Um and then eventually we just start out of your way though, like like walk across the entire campus looking for her, like no, not even Oh, hey. I was just walking this way. It'll just be like she'll sit at her table with her friends and I knew a couple of her homies, like her core group of girlfriends, cuz I had classes with them. So I would just go sit down and like talk to them and just shoot the ████ And like we just naturally built a friendship with like her group of friends, but then for a while it was just like these group of girls I would just go kick it with sometimes and then I would go talk to these dudes and I go talk to the baseball team and go talk to like the guys I played water polo with. It was just like I would always just roam around. I could never Yeah. I just felt like I could never sit in one spot. But part of my routine would be like I would go talk to them
4:12 all the time. So you're doing a full routine befriending everybody just so you can have an excuse to feel like you're doing a stop by kind like I just was like yo what up and we just come kick it and I think everybody kind of got along with each other like our age was different where all the clicks got together like they was all cool with each other so there was no like crazy beef or anything like you know some schools there's like like oh ████ these fools if I see you I'mma fight whatever like there was like that with other like older classes but our class for some reason we're all very like we were just cool with each So like fast forward to probably what we were juniors and this is when like this is when we had physics together and ████ Yeah, you did. Yeah. Yeah, we got physics. You sure you didn't have chemistry? Actually, I think that was our senior year. No, that was our junior. That was your junior. I don't know. We I don't know. I don't get that reference. I don't understand.
5:03 So, I would have physics with her and this is when I was talking about how physics was just so hard for us cuz like we just weren't good at math and I wasn't paying attention at all and I just be ████ around. Both of you guys aren't good at math. She worked really hard at it and I just was like, "Yeah, I don't know, dude. This is ████ hard, dude." Yeah. And I would just try to figure I would like study last minute and like pull off a, you know, I was just always ████ around and that class I would leave to go to play sports. I would leave all the time. So, I would like miss half class a lot of the time, but anytime I was in class and there was like tutoring time, I'd always be like, "Hey, come partner with me." Like, I'd be like be in my lab and I'd always just sit next to her and offer nothing. I wouldn't offer nothing at all. I I I You want to copy my homework? It's empty. And I'd be like, and my actually my buddy that sat next to me, his name was Efron, and he was really smart and he
5:53 was really cool. And he would help us. He would tutor us and then I'd like pretend like I knew what he said and try to like pass it on to her and she'd be like, "I'm still not getting the answer." And I was like, "Yeah, mad. That's fine." You know, so I was just a distraction. She got a bad grade in physics probably cuz she probably didn't do that well cuz of me. Yeah. Yeah. We got to go to like extra tutoring hours and stuff. That's dope. But uh so that's how we first started like talking and then I remember being like, "Yo, I really like this chick." But then she was like, she started dating some other dude from a different school. Oh ████ She was like they were a little group of friends, a little bunch of ████ dude. Yep. She was stolen from you. No, not really. It was just like, "All right, whatever." And at that time, so you already liked her, but she didn't know. Yeah. Well,
6:45 like Yeah. I always kind of had like a thing for her, and I'd be like, "Yeah, whatever. All right, it's cool. She's She's talking to her man, whatever. And then I started talking to some other chick that I kind of liked. Um, was she Was she Latina, too, or No, she was she was like half Persian, half Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Salvie, which was like hella random. Yeah. Crazy. And she was like a new girl from a different school that year, so I didn't know who she was. So, I started talking to her and she was a friend with another mutual friend. And you had prom king swags? No, not even. I wasn't even none of that yet. This is like our junior year. We're not even seniors yet. Um, and then I started talking to her and then I told this story about how like I like fell I fell in love with this girl. It was like the first girl that I like I liked and she liked me back, right? But then like we had nothing in common. We'd sit down, we would have nothing to talk about. And I remember one night she she we wanted to go hang out and then like I like kissed
7:35 her and stuff and like we hooked up or whatever and I just remember feeling like icky. I felt like he's like, "Am I gay?" Yeah. Why do you mean what? Why you say hooked up like that? Like we just like she wanted me to go over to like hang out or some ████ Well, also back then, you know, if you just like hardcore make it, I was somebody's like, "Yo, dude, we hooked up." It's like that's not I think she wanted me to like go I think on the way. Yeah. And I just was like I kissed her and I just was like, "Nah, this ain't right." Like I felt like this didn't this wasn't for us. Was it hard? No, it wasn't that. I just felt I felt bad. I felt like you were doing felt like you were cheating on. Not even I was cheating with T. It was just like I didn't like her like that. I did and then we went through something and I just was like no I don't think I like this chick and I just felt like icky. So then I was like nah this ain't it. What's her first and last name? No
8:26 way. You're very uh like self-aware at that age. I just remember feel like I just didn't understand what I was feeling but it was wrong. Yeah. I felt like I just was like this ain't it. And I just remember when I did Nick Godard, everything felt right. So like I was such a ████ I I the world felt right all the time. This is once again this is what happens when you're raised by women. Oh maybe that's the thing is I only had a brother and I didn't have girls around me. So like my mind was so different. Yeah. And I think at that time I think I just looked at relationships differently too. And at that time too like I most of my friends I got along with were all these ladies dude. I was like kicking it like a lot of like lady friends because you felt really comfortable with them probably. Yeah. I'm a very feminine spirit, right, Anthony? I am a very feminine spirit. That's why we like each other. Yeah. As friends. As friends. I heard that that
9:17 helps like a lot with development when you grow up with siblings of the other gender. A lot. It's not so it's not such a mystery like if you if you don't have any brothers like a girl that grows up with no any brothers like like a man is a mystery especially if single mom no father right so like they're just imagining what a guy might be like but then the if you grow up like you see all the stages of a female from mom to to you know for me growing up too like it was harder for me to make guy friends it was harder for me to connect with boys and ████ like where you could like go hang out and do stuff. It was always kind of a more of a struggle for me. And then I think for Tiff, I think another reason why we got along really well too is like she grew up with mostly boys. So like she's she she could hear me say stupid ████ all the time and she's not phased at all. She's just like, "Yeah,
10:07 I'm just guys, you know, so I feel like we got along that way where a lot of like a lot of ways we're opposites and I think that's why it kind of worked out really early." So she's the man of the relationship and you're the woman. Um I cook and clean. Do you still have a bunch of friends that are girls now? No, no, not really. Like, well, I guess you could call the girls that train at the gym. They're friends, you know what I mean? But it's like we have a t we have like Yeah, we we do. We do actually. It wasn't like is it like a group that you used to hang out with like in high school? It's usually couples. Like we're friends with couples and like we're friends with the guy like our couples are friends in general. So maybe growing up with sisters helped you become more emotionally mature quicker. I think so. Yeah. Or maybe there there are emotionally mature guys. It's just I wasn't around that. It's easier when you
10:57 grow up with a bunch of ladies who are just always telling you what to do all the time. I think it just eases that. So when was the moment that like you stopped dating this chick, she stopped dating her boy? So it's like beginning of senior year. This is like we're coming back to school again. We were talking. We were talking like every day for the whole summer while she was still talking to her man. No, she wasn't. They were like they were over over the summer. So I was like I found out she was like, "Oh, I'm not talking." I was like, "Cool." And we just started talking like every day. She explicitly wanted to share with you that she's not talking to your boy anymore. I asked I was like, "What's up with this dumb ass?" This ████ dumb ass. How come you guys didn't kick it in the summer then? You know the thing about when I first started dating Tiff, bro, she would blow me off like every ████ weekend. Like how? it always we'd have a date planned and then she this is the other reason why I really liked her though is because I I felt like I needed
11:47 a like I wanted a girl that was like really close with her family you know and like she would blow me off every weekend to be like I'm sorry like my dad needs me to do this for her like like cuz she worked with her parents all the time her mom was a house uh she she would clean houses so sometimes she would just need her like extra extra hands she needs to take her to work you know like the dad needs her to do this and it's like to do any dates like so a lot of the times like we would have dates scheduled and she'd be canceling me like couple hours before I was like it's I was like she doesn't even ████ like me bro ████ doing this right there. Yeah, but I think that's part of the dance where it's like I knew I really if I knew I didn't really like her and I knew it wasn't like worth it. I guess I probably wouldn't have chased it. You should have booked her mom for a house cleaning like gotcha ████ now you're at my house like damn I can't pay you ████
12:38 gotcha. But I was such a little like I was like, "Okay, whatever. Okay, cool. Whatever." I just was like I just wanted to kick it with her all the time. Was there at any point if that was happening to you, were you like starting to doubt relationship get through that? Like how did you Cuz I knew I was being a ████ Oh, I knew I was like, you're just being a ████ ass. Like you're you're No, but if someone like blows you off like three times, you can't help but go I don't think they're interested. Yeah. And I and I would tell her that and she's like, no, but I knew the reason. And I knew she was telling the truth. Like part of me part of me was like I didn't think she was telling the truth and I would like rationalize like oh she's ████ she likes other like you know especially when you're young you're just you're creating all these stories in your head hard to get through cuz what if that like just keeps happening you're like ████ did I pick the right or the wrong person you know but then again I knew I was like I knew who she was like I knew her character cuz I'd known her
13:28 for so long right and she just always would prove that like yeah I'm out with my ████ family stop being an idiot right and then eventually over time I was like oh I'm the problem. But like because she was consistent, it would make me like kind of build faith over time that like, oh, I'm the one that is jumping to these conclusions. And I'm so used to I just recognize this pattern of like me overthinking, me like about to maybe say something that was going to ruin everything, right? Just cuz I would be impulsive and just like, you know what, this is ████ I don't want to talk to you anymore. Blah blah blah. And then like hit send, right? And a lot of times I would like stop myself and be like, "Well, I know Tiff is not going to handle this s███." Like, "She's going to look at me like, "What the ████ is wrong with you? You're an idiot. Don't talk to me like that. Like, I'm literally with my you know, my family. What do you want me to do type s███?" So, it was like
14:19 just having those conversations to myself, I think, was was helpful. But it helps when she consistent. Do you remember when you finally went on the first date and how you felt? Were you like, "Oh, yes." I remember we went to like go clean somebody's house. Yeah. Yeah. No, I remember we went to Santa Monica cuz I remember cuz you know when you first start dating somebody, you know like three things about them. I like the beach. I like to like hang out with my friends. Yeah. I like the eucuses. So it's like all right. I like incub yeah. So I'd like make a CD right with like a couple incubous songs on or like whatever. Like oh check it out. We like we share the same taste of music, you know. I would take we went to like Santa Monica and we just walked the boardwalk for a couple hours, you know, and we would just talk the whole time and it was just like such gay cliche like oh it it felt like the we would talk and it
15:11 would be like nightfall already like oh my gosh. That's the best though, you know. But that's how it it really is like that though. Like it really was like that for us. But did you guys like end up holding hands that night or Yeah. Or or were you guys just like arms just brushed like this? You're like, "Oh s███." I was mad nervous though. ████ up. No, I was like super skittish like like I didn't want to make the wrong move cuz I think I told the story too. What did you guys do? Did you guys Did you guys just hold hands or I was super like super Christian PG-13. Just dabbed each other up. That was a tight date. It was kind of sick. No, no, no. Oh, too much. Too much. I would try to like kiss her and ████ and she'd be like, "No." Like she would kind of be like, "Oh, it's too much." And I'd be like, "What the ████ man? You like me?" You know, you you went for the kiss on that date sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes during the first date. Sometimes. Oh, no. No. Well,
16:01 like throughout our that dating period of like we're still like kind of dipping our toes in cuz bro, we were so like we had no idea. Like 16 or 17? Cuz I think we were even young for our class. Yeah. So like we were a year like still a year behind everyone else. So by the time we're seniors, we were still like 17. Everyone was like 18, 19 and ████ But I just remember being like, "Bro, we are so But I think it was good that we went slow." But in as a as a teenager, you're like, "F███, dude. I haven't even lost my virginity yet." You know, like, "I thought we were supposed to have sex already." Like that's literally what you're thinking when you're like 17 and like 16. But we we just continue to take things really slow. Like cuz Tiff was just like, "I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready yet." But over time, it just kind of we it helped because then the fact that we
16:51 actually like talking with each other and being with each other, it it kind of worked out the best way possible because then like we we didn't even like have sex till we were like 21, dude. Wow. 4 years. Yeah. We like You probably still come fast, dude. Like within 30 seconds. Not even. I think it's the best way. I think keeping it real old school, like seventh heaven style, I think is a good idea. What um opened up or what changed that made you guys finally have sex? Damn. They both got too huge cuz for us it slowly escalated. If you guys didn't do if you guys didn't have sex and then all of us are doing that's huge four years later. But did you go like base by base? kind of like it was just kind of like it was like we're experimenting.
17:43 No, we were just over the pants, dude. We're doing mostly over the pants. A little dry humping first. Yeah, dude. That was our That was my ████ jam, dog. Were you like, I'm tired of coming in my underwear. I'm like, I'm not coming anymore. I don't know what's happening with me. I think I'm losing my touch. No, it was just like I just got sick of losing, brother. That's what it really was. What's sick of losing mean? You know, you Hold on. No, I'm not doing I don't even know what that means. What? 18 minutes. Yeah, you're right. I take that back. I don't know what you mean. No, I just I kept I was sick of tired of initiating and not happening where I was like, "Today's the day." That's what I said.
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