0:00 pacing up and down and it's just like and then he commits the crime. >> You guys, that's what Nick does right before we start filming, too. >> Get your head in the game. I'm ready. I'm ready for JK Hughes. >> Okay, this is not going to be a happy fun time laugh one. So, just uh be aware of that. A >> uh we have a massive development in um the case of Vicha Ratana ████ You guys know who that is? So he's the first um I wouldn't say the first but like one of the most major um crimes to kick off the stop Asian hate movement. He was the Thai grandfather that was walking in San Francisco >> in like that driveway in front of the
0:50 garage or something. and he got randomly shoved to the ground in an unprovoked attack by Antoine Watson which in which he died >> and his defense was had a bad day or whatever right that guy >> defense was like this guy just had a temper tantrum chess Bodin the worst freaking DA you could ask for was basically trying to make excuses for him saying it's just a temper tantrum he was having a bad day and he took it out on this guy whatever so um the San Francisco jury uh just reached a verdict um and they have acquitted Antoine of murder >> wow Wow. >> They have acquitted him of uh elder abuse. >> What? >> And instead he is being convicted of the much lesser crime of involuntary manslaughter and assault. Why is that involuntary? >> Because he was having a bad day, Joe. >> He wasn't trying to kill him. I was trying to push him to the ground. >> In San Francisco, if I have if I'm
1:40 having a bad day and I could I could ████ beat the ████ out of someone and kill them and that's just I get involuntary mans. It was involuntary. Well, >> so what's the punishment for that? >> Um, he's going to do some time. >> It could be up to like seven years or something like that, but if you're on good behavior and go for like certain degrees and what >> he might have another bad day. >> That's the scary part about all these like liberal cities with these type of liberal policies. You know how like they'll commit a crime and they find the dude and then they already done it 13 other times. It's because of ████ like this >> and they have the rap sheet of like, >> "Yeah, so this ████ is going to kill like 15 other Asian grandparents and then by the time that one makes the news, you're like, "Wait, what the ████ This guy already did it 15 times and it's because they keep letting him go easy >> and and no hate crime charges also on top of >> so he was having a bad day. He went to just go shove whoever was closest to >> and it was it wasn't even a it was like he charged full speed at this guy and
2:32 just knocked him down. It like it wasn't like a shove. It was like a tackle basically and it's an elderly Asian guy and and you know the the prosecution was arguing like would he have done that if it was like a tall white guy? >> No. ████ no. Of course, because you see the, you know, the nice Asian guy that probably won't fight back. >> That's exactly why they're >> and the context of everyone that was ████ at the time thought CO came from Asian people. >> Yeah. Yeah. And so the the tough thing is that the reason this was such a a big uh element in the stop Asian hate thing was that the argument was that people who do this shouldn't be allowed to get away with like um when Asians are the victim, it's almost like people get away with it easier. Yeah. >> And now we're at the verdict point and it proved exactly the same sentiment and it really sucks. >> Especially with elder abuse too because I feel like whenever a crime happens to older person, same type of ████ kind of
3:23 happens like this. >> Why do you guys think that is when it's crimes against Asians, it's never um even if it was a hate crime or targeted because of the race, it's never labeled as a hate crime. >> I don't think cuz we're uh vocal. I think you know that like the Asian culture it's like we're so long-term thinking. It's like you get me instead of like, hey, what the ████ It's more like, okay, give me like 20 years, I'm gonna own your city. And I think because of that, it makes Yeah, it makes it makes for easy victims, but it sucks. So, I think as a group, it's kind of dope because we make real change, but on the individual, >> it's like we'll just make it so that you guys don't exist in a city anymore. >> Yeah. >> And it's like, yeah, but then by the time I'm 80, I'm going to go, we won. on the individual level, it sucks cuz then people's grandparents don't get
4:15 justice. >> Yeah. That and also the the fact that that fuels systemic racism that fuels the fact that you won't hire people of a certain race that have wronged you. You know, it's like it it kind of creates a cycle of negativity. But >> a huge point that I don't think people talk about it. >> They don't. And but it causes resentment between both communities, right? Cuz even as a kid, like if I got bullied or whatever, like I would always talk to my mom, oh that kid did this with this kid, whatever. My mom's like, "Oh, just beat him at that." Like just don't don't fight back. Just beat him at that. And then if you're constantly picked to be number one on the basketball, whatever, then uh that'll really show up. So that's kind of like what's ingrained in the culture versus like fighting them on the court, you know? >> And I agree. I think that is a better revenge is just to have a better life. a more long-term healthier way I guess for society to not be violent >> and it does actually make change.
5:05 >> It does. Yeah. >> Yeah. Like the quality of life for your family. >> Yeah. >> But then it's also not being primitive if like I get it if you don't want to choose to be violent and fight back, right? But then I think if it if the legal process is something that we have access to and we can protest, we can go and say like you know like or we can take them to court and we can do all the that stuff. But I think even then Asians don't confront using the process that the system has. Also though it could be that the Asians that do confront and that are primitive are already in jail and then when this dude goes to jail, they just whoop his ass in jail like every other day and stuff like that. And then that's just a thing too. >> But you know, like I think even the Asian dudes in jail that are primitive, whatever, everyone is so high achieving
5:56 they end up doing well when they come out to like I think the aians weird problem. >> It's a funny problem because we don't fit into the American game that well. >> Yeah. >> Cuz we love money and success too much. Like if you tell a bunch of Asians, "Let's go ████ protest, whatever," and they're like, "But what about overtime, dude? I could be at work right now and ████ make double. Why would I ████ waste my whole day? You know what I mean? So for them, they're like everything is like this costbenefit thing and they're like, nah, I'm not going to protest. >> I don't think they I don't if I were thinking about even like my family or the people that are closest to me. Justice would not be the number one thing. It's more about how do I better myself or better my situation. The justice part is kind of >> second. You're depending on the system to like >> because I think the way Asians would
6:46 look at the situation is they'll feel bad that they couldn't afford a better neighborhood to put their grandpa in. >> Yeah. They blame themselves. >> That's true. They would blame themselves. Yeah. They wouldn't be like, "F███ the perpetrator." Because I think the mentality is like there's always going to be criminals. There's always going to be bad people. But then you didn't work hard enough to be in a safe neighborhood instead of being like but then I think the American mindset is like no I live here and like I want a safe like neighborhood so I'm going to go to my city and go I pay taxes I want you guys to keep my city safe right so that's the that's I think that's the more western way of doing things is we're all contributors here like you guys got to help us and then we're not going to vote you in if you don't ████ do your job right he was at his um daughter's apartment I feel like also So, um, in some ways, San Francisco got,
7:38 uh, dangerous faster than people could relocate. I think like faster than you could uproot your family life, like it got really bad fast. >> It's also crazy expensive. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like, yeah, you can't you can't outsave inflation. >> And I think like one of the main reasons people have this sentiment why people, you know, it it this proves kind of the theory true that like, okay, when the Asian guy is the victim, you're going to get leniency. And I think a lot of it is because society people still look at Asians >> in the hierarchy of privilege. >> Like, oh, it's a punch out. >> They call it like white adjacent or whatever, right? >> Like, why did which is crazy to think because there's, you know, it that's not the Asian-American experience at all. >> No stats for that. >> There's no but it's the model minority myth. But you know what's funny though? Well, it's not funny. But pre all of that during the exclusion act, >> everybody hated Chinese. Like the way that everyone didn't like Somal don't
8:29 like Somalians right now and they're the target. There was a time when like black, Hispanic, everybody was like, "F███ these Asians." >> But what were they doing? Like similar to this >> taking jobs and >> cuz they were working for cheaper. >> Yeah. >> So they were >> not fraud though, not daycare fraud. >> That's Yeah. >> They were working for cheaper and and technically we kind of brought like the opium into the the country. >> There's a lot of bad. >> Okay. Don't say we. >> Why would you say we? >> Because if I claim the hardships, I can also claim the successes. >> Hey, but thanks for the exclusion act. That's when Japanese were able to come through. So, >> you're Chinese, too. >> Only like uh like you were saying like what the stats are in being uh white adjacent. I think mainly is the idea that like in one generation uh they could achieve the success of like a white family, >> you know, like um
9:19 >> surpass them. Well, we're um I'm I'm I'm going to put this out there, but Asians are going to be in the white like uh club in in the next >> club. >> Because this is what I >> Because they're all marrying our women. >> No, no, >> it's not going to be that much about skin color in the in the future. >> Cuz they're all marrying our women. >> Are you saying like classwise? It's going to be what's considered white keeps changing in America. That's what I realized. So the first thing that I saw that made me think about this is Irish, Jewish, Italian, Greek, all these people weren't considered white. And if if you see uh Roosevelt or no, one of the presidents, he created like a map of what is white, what is Anglo, what is
10:10 whatever. >> Good president. What I realize is that JFK was our first minority president because he was Catholic and he was Irish. >> But he also looks white. I think the hard part for us to assimilate, we're just too ████ looking. >> White passing >> what I'm see. That's why now. That's why now. But just watch. >> And also ████ >> Mark my ████ words. Because the Republican party, did you ever think that there would be a Jew representative, a black representative? Nope. But they're all considered white adjacent now because their philosophy and what they do is not with the left. >> What about the successful like Nigerians? You think they'll ever be considered white or they'll still just be >> not yet. Not yet. Because >> not yet. >> No. >> So there's hope. >> It's going to be more like if you're uh it's not going to be pure Anglo anymore.
11:00 It's going to be are you Protestant or now they're even going Jewish and Catholic can be one. And then it's also going to be privilege. So then the idea of whiteness is going to change. >> It's just going to be instead of white, they'll be like, "Oh, you guys are privileged." >> Or they're going to have a different name for it. >> Privies. Privies. >> Bunch of privies over there. >> Cuz the white the white club keeps changing is what I'm saying. What was considered it? It used to be only Anglo and Protestant, but then they go, "Okay, well JFK and like the Irish and Catholics, you could come in too. Just no black or Chinese though, right?" And then it keeps changing. So then now they're going to take uh tomato whites. They're taking Italians. They're taking all the tomato eating whites. >> Tomato whites. Is that a real >> Yeah, tomato and potato. >> There's potato whites and tomatoes. >> What? >> I have never before. I love it.
11:53 >> And the hummus whites. >> Yeah, hummus whites. >> You know what's crazy? You don't even have to explain any of this. >> And you know what I'm talking about. The hummus. Yeah. >> Wow. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Go on. So for the idea of like stop Asian hate, what does this mean for that? If the whole thing that kicked this situation off, >> you know why I think it didn't catch that hard is because when they saw who was actually attacking the old people, it was um a lot of uh black folks, but it was it was like they're not like all there. They were homeless. >> It's not like cuz they're black. >> Yeah. No, they were schizophrenic. It just so happened to be that most of the attackers, well almost majority were black, >> were mentally ill. They were mentally ill, black >> and they didn't want to confront that
12:44 because it was also during the time of BLM. >> Yeah. With the whole George Floyd issue. So it's it's >> it didn't fit the idea because black people were the victims at the time. They can't always they can't also be but it's not I wouldn't call them black people. I just call them like people that were like uh excons people that were uh they should be in a mental institution. They're repeat offenders. >> They're repeat offend They're not normal black people is what I'm saying. They're not They're not people that own a home and they just go out there and fight people. You know what I mean? Like >> why you making that face? >> Yeah. >> Why you made a face? >> What are you talking about? >> You said normal black people. You made a face. >> It was like that. It was like that. No, it just so happened to be that the attackers were black, but they weren't attacking them cuz they were black. You know what I mean? Like it's like Yeah. Yeah. >> One more time for the people to back. >> I think also when when so many of the
13:34 attackers were like mentally ill, I think that also put the attention back on the state of like why >> that's what it was >> and they didn't the state didn't want to have to >> cuz it was a state's failure. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. cuz it's like it would point the point out that the state was messing up with the drug problem >> and there's a ton of money for that and they're not doing it. So, >> and the uh the justice problem >> cuz they always never show the first 10 seconds of the video where the guy who perpetrates the crime is talking to himself in the corner. >> Yeah. Facing up and down and it's just like and then he commits the crime. >> That's too much. That's too much air time. >> No, there is >> only get a couple seconds to tell the story. >> That's also important for the story, but they're not interested in that. They're interested in in pitting everyone against each other, >> you guys. That's what Nick does right before we start filming, too. >> Get your head in the game. I'm ready.
14:25 I'm ready for JK. >> Cut that out. Cut that. Cut that walking part out. No, leave it in. >> Want it to be like >> black community, Asian community thing. >> Like, I didn't want it to be like a black cuz it's not It's not a black versus Asian thing. It's like literally like homeless, schizophrenic, someone that needs help from the state. >> Exactly. It just so happened to be majority of them are black >> and it's majority of them have really had really weak family units. There's no one to take care of that guy. I would love as a person who lives in California. I've been living there my whole life and as a person who deals with these schizophrenic homeless people >> on a pretty regular basis. >> I would love for my state California to have a solution for this problem. >> I would love that more or just even an attempt. >> Yeah. >> I think that's ever going to happen.
15:15 >> Shut up, Bart. I'M NOT COMING TO VEGAS, MAN. >> NO, if they just had more funding, I think they could figure it out. >> Tax them more. >> If they That's the issue. More money. I bet you guys could even get a railroad. Solve homelessness. >> Railroad. >> A road. >> Who's going to build it, dude? >> Plenty of Chinese that could build it. >> If your homes are more expensive, I think it would work. Could fix it. >> You know what? You know what we could do? Let's increase property tax. Yep. >> That would really help. Anyway, I mean >> increase the minimum wage. I think it'll really help >> if enough corporate companies >> more fires. >> Recipes, Vicha. And for as far as Antoine Watson goes, I guess we'll get him the second or third time he does
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