0:00 I remember going to um a party hosted by a Taiwanese street gang. >> If the RSVP, >> I had a cute little invite and ████ and it said Taiwanese gang, you know. >> You're invited and then confetti comes out. >> Welcome to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have Nick the Ear with us. >> Nick, please state your ethnicity. I am 100% Chinese. >> Chinese? >> Why don't you call yourself a Singaporean? >> Cuz I don't know. I feel like I can't take that title, brother. I'm not from Singapore, unfortunately. My mom is. >> Are you able to do Singaporean accent? >> Not really. >> Something like >> even even if they're Singaporean, they'll say they Chinese, right? >> Yeah. Like if you go to Singapore and you go, "Oh, like what's your ethnicity?" I think they'll go, "Oh, Chinese." >> Well, that is that because Singapore is
0:50 like made of like different like you have Chinese, Malay, Indian. >> It's like a melting pot. But ethnically, my mom is Chinese, right? So, >> do you get offended if Would she get offended if someone thinks she's Malaysian? >> No. >> Then she's not really Singaporean. >> I'm just kidding. >> Well, uh, we got Baruan with us, too. >> B, >> please state your ethnicity. >> I'm Singaporean. >> No, you're not. >> Take that back, dude. >> I am Singaporean. >> He's Taiwanese. >> I took Singapore Airlines like four or five times. Cool. Do you stay at Marina Bay Sands? >> I've never been there. >> All right. We also got Mr. Joseph Jitsukawa with us. >> Woohoo. >> I'm Mexican. >> You wish. >> State your sexual preferences. >> Japanese.
1:40 >> Uh, cream pass. >> Nice. Cool. >> And we have Jason Chenny. Jason. >> What is your ethnicity, sir? >> Thailand. >> I'm from Bangra, India. Pretty cool, man. Engagement farming from the bots. All right. Well, today we're going to talk about uh so growing up I was always told like um cuz I went to high school in San Gabriel and uh there were a lot of Taiwanese students there and it was one of those things I'd run into a lot of time where they didn't love to be called Chinese. Um, and there was a distinction like an hierarchy where like Taiwanese is always better than Chinese, you know. >> Yeah. >> I wanted to really >> I remember that too. >> But I I think I just kind of accepted it without asking enough questions. I
2:30 didn't really understand. I just went cool. >> Up until a certain point. >> Yeah. I think today I wanted to find out from you guys. Why is Taiwanese better than mainland Chinese? >> We're better. Okay. >> Talk about it. >> Okay. Let's be honest. Okay. Let's just be honest. Chinese people are more powerful because they have a lot of money. The the the top one to 5% and but m most of the country is working five to six days 12 13 hour days. They're not um they're doing very well in the financially. That sounds weird but uh but nobody's ever so the world respects them because of military and also their power through the whole world. So it's we respect that. But also but nobody's ever like man those Chinese people so cool. Nobody's ever saying that though.
3:20 Who said those Chinese people are so cool ever? The Japanese when they were under uh >> I know that's but those are the only times where you're getting bent over. They're like wow your pen is so smooth. >> When I went to Taiwan it reminded me if China and Japan had a baby. >> Yeah. But Korean too. And also >> Yeah. There's parts. Yeah, but the it was because their uh the way that they build their city, it looks like Japan. >> Well, we were occupied. But who's So, who's saying Taiwanese people are cool? >> Okay. We're less we're less not cool. Taiwanese people. >> Mostly people from Taiwan. >> But do you think most people know what Taiwan is? Like they just think they're all Chinese? >> Yes. >> Like generally? Yeah. >> When I thought Taiwan was just like an area of China. >> It was like saying Alabama like it's still America. Yeah, it's I thought it
4:10 was the same as when someone was like, "Oh, I'm No, I'm not. I'm Shanghai." I was like, "Oh, okay." So, that's just a part of it. >> That's honestly technically what it is. >> Yeah. >> Can I tell you something from a Caucasian perspective? So, from a Caucasian non-biased, non-invested perspective and going through the timeline because I think the timeline has a lot to do with how you perceive things. In I would say 80s, 90s, maybe even early 2000s, Taiwanese had this elitism because in China, they probably thought they're a bunch of like villagers and farmers and ████ right? So when those guys come here and they're trying to impress the white man, they're like, "We're sophisticated. We make all your computer chips, all your plasma TVs. Taiwanese is very, very cool. We should be your friends, right? >> Good branding. >> Yeah, we're and we're very sophisticated people. We're not like those guys that blow snot out of their nose on the streets. That's that's their that's what
5:00 they're trying to like that's that's their ambassador. >> Yeah. Chipmy's not blowing. >> Yeah. They're like chipmot blowing. >> Two biggest exports. >> And then the but the Chinese people in the 80s or 90s, >> they're they just start coming up, right? Super hardcore. So now you get to like the 2020s, these guys come over here and they just straight buy like ████ five houses at a time. Taiwanese people isn't even on their radar. I think Taiwan to China are like ants. So, they just ████ came up so hard. I honestly think from a Caucasian perspective, it's a one-sided beef. It's like Taiwan going recognize me. We're so ████ cool. We do cool ████ And then China now is like, "Wait, is someone ████ saying things?" Like, "What the hell?" Like, we're like, "Our new our
5:50 new ████ adversary is America. I'm not even worried about what the hell this ████ little nephew has to say. That's what I feel from a Caucasian perspective. >> Oh, how come like you keep saying that? >> But why two three years ago they uh China is like >> decades ago? >> No, no. I mean like two three years ago China was like, "Oh, you're part of us." Like >> Well, I think they're just like, "Okay, we're back. You get in line." It's like, "Your alcoholic father's back. Get in line. Stop ████ around." So, what is it that happened with what is it that happened with young Asian-Americans? Maybe like this might just be relegated to the 2000s where uh there was like a Oh, no. That's not a Chinese guy. He's Taiwanese. >> How'd that happen? >> I hung out with a lot of Cantonese people and they would just rag on Taiwanese all day. >> Yeah. How did that like develop? What I
6:42 realized it's like everyone's like talking ████ about the group they're jealous about. So I like maybe Taiwanese people are like talking ████ about mainland Chinese that are like super mega rich like Bart's talk about like they could they could buy like 20 Lambos but not all Taiwanese people like we're rich we have like two homes and then they're like well I have a skyscraper. >> No but most most Chinese people the thing that most Taiwanese people talk about in Taiwan is like how rude they are. But that it's not rude culturally in China. Yes. But then in comparison to the Western society it it is rude. Yeah. >> But when I was around a lot of Cantonese people, they would I was like, "Why you guys talk so much s███?" I was like, "Chinese people hate Chinese people the most." That's what I realized cuz like they don't talk ████ about Koreans or Japanese or nothing. All I hear about is them talking ████ about other Chinese. And when Cantonese people talk ████
7:32 they'll be like, "Oh, Chad Taiwanese is ████ cheap as ████ They're all ████ They don't know how to ████ fight. They don't know how to do this. They're like their gangs are >> really backstabbing each other and their best friends. >> Their kung fu is whack. >> Yeah, >> his hair whack style. THEIR MICROCHIPS WHACK. >> WHY Y'ALL HAT? AND I WAS LIKE, "OH, that's because the Cantonese are the country ass pumpkins and Taiwanese people are all the rich people living in Arcadia. That's why you ████ jealous." >> Yeah. I always felt like the Asian-American uh version of that was so different cuz I kind of like just popped into it and before I knew it, that was already like the dividing line. I'm like, "How'd this happen?" This episode is brought to you by Lucy. Yo, these nicotine pouches right here. I take them all the time. And this one happens to be my favorite flavor. It's the berry citrus. It is super super sweet and juicy. Just nice and light the way I like it. I don't like it too minty where
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9:12 the worst one. Worst one. Vote them off. >> Vote for your favorite watching branch. >> It's cuz they're not ghetto. They're like rich kids that join gangs. >> Of course they're they're not going to fight like refugees like Vietnamese refugees and these Cantonese guys that ran away from communism. Like they live hard lives, right? And Taiwanese guys are like thieves and pirates. Like they're like con artists, right? They're ████ They're not They're white collar crime guys. They're they're rich >> con artists. >> They're like gangsters with backup plans. >> You know what I mean? Like ah if I if this fails, I'm going to go I'm going to go back to Taiwan and be a doctor. >> You know the if the gang life fails. >> Yeah. Cuz they're playing it. It's like they're like play gang banging. You know the other guys it's like that's real. That's real ████ >> That's all they've got.
10:02 >> They all they have. >> Southeast Asians, Cantonese people, they're all like they're they're like rough, right? But then like Taiwanese people, they they're like middle class people that are like maybe neglected from parents and then they become a gangster. So it's like different like one's like a parachute kid and then the other one's like refugee kid. >> So one coming here, they have everything just not their parents. They're like I'm not ████ understood. >> The other kids are like I don't even know where my dad is. He exploded on a landmine. >> That's true. >> That is me. I I really feel like that. And >> parachute man. Huh? >> Parachute man. But I also feel like it's not only the rich Taiwanese, like even the working-class Taiwanese. I felt like um they weren't the fighters also. And then when I went to ANA, I kind of wanted to be friends with the Koreans
10:53 because I feel I feel like they were even more >> Yeah, they're tougher. But the Taiwanese people never stood up with me even in what? Like never stood up with like >> they never had your back. >> Never had my back. So then yeah, the Koreans. Yeah. I always wondered that actually. But that makes sense. >> When you got when you got in that fight and got beat up, were your friends that didn't stick up for you, Taiwanese? >> Yeah, a lot of them. Yeah. Well, they don't even care. Yeah. They don't even give a ████ >> Yellow bellies. Huh? >> Did you ask them like, "Yo, what happened? How come you guys didn't jump in?" >> No, I just feel sad. >> You didn't even talk to him about it. like >> I didn't have the I I didn't know how to express myself. >> You have a debriefing after >> debriefing. >> So guys, what the ████ was that? >> They just and you stayed friends after. >> No, I I didn't I just went with Koreans because they they would still like beat my ass. >> But then they're like, "Oh, we got you." >> But then they're not going to eat stinky
11:44 tofu with you, though. >> Which I'm sad, too. I'm like, "Come on, eat one. >> Sick." Yeah. >> Split in the middle. You know, >> you know what's I think the difference is like I'm so sad about that. >> Yeah. I was sad about that. >> So, so I remember going to um a party hosted by a Taiwanese street gang. >> Sounds so proper. >> It was the RSVP. >> It was a night market, dude. >> I had a cute little invite and ████ and it said Taiwanese gang. You know, >> you're invited and then confetti comes out. No, like but here's the clear difference. And me and my buddies were like >> pretty fascinated by what went down because there's a lot of peacocking. So like there's a lot of like >> to them this is like badass ████ going on. We're bad, right? There's a lot of like hyping each other up and then oh we
12:35 have guests. Let's show them that we're tough guys. >> Okay. >> Whereas like >> when you're hanging with like like let's say a Vietnamese group throws a party, you go there, they're actually ████ nuts. They're getting into an argument with their brother and shooting at each other like literally and you have to hold him back like don't ████ KILL HIM. HE'S YOUR BROTHER. But he's like, you know, but then like the Taiwanese party was like a guy gets wild and then like he he throws his beer on the ground, he makes a show >> and then he'll punch one of his underlings >> that won't fight back. And everyone's just like, "Oh, wow. Yo, >> why are we hating on Taiwan right now? >> Breaking down a lot of like examples in my head right now that I'm just going through my Rolodex and I'm like, "Holy ████ Taiwanese people, dudes are kind of like little ████ asses a little bit.
13:25 They punch down." I didn't know that we it would take him explaining the the Taiwanese gang gold gayla to for us to understand. >> That was my exam, my introduction of this is what you're talking about. It's like it's a show of like it's like it's like let's let's let's scare people with intimidation but not really ████ people up. >> They're doing it by choice versus viet guys that's their default setting. >> They're really about it. >> You're like, "Yay! Hey, you want TO ACT, BRO, MAN?" YEAH. And then you're just partying. And then all of a sudden, hey, what the ████ YOU ████ CHEATED ON THE COP. And he starts stabbing his brother and ████ AND YOU'RE LIKE, "WHAT THE ████ IS HAPPENING?" And then you're like, I can't I can't party with you guys no more, man. ████ this. You guys are crazy. >> Damn. I guess that explains why so many Taiwanese people made it out of gang
14:15 life. >> Yeah, I know. Cuz they never were in it. >> Plan B. Yeah, >> Plan B was always there. >> That's an easier switch. >> But you know what's funny though is this is not Taiwanese, but our our our buddy Francis in junior high, my favorite thing to do was to call him Chinese cuz he would get mad and he'd be like, "NO, HONG KONG, Hong Kong." He barely knew like how to speak at the time. He didn't know English that well. >> HE SAID HONG KONG. NO, I'M A Hong Kong. >> He doesn't want to be a snot blower. >> Yeah. And we would die cuz every ████ hour we'd just be like, "Hey, uh, aren't you um from China?" AND HE WOULD GO, "NO, HONG KONG." >> He I think he was the first parachute kid I ever met. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> And I didn't know why. >> They should put him in a mansion at like seventh grade. >> I didn't know why he hated being Chinese so much. Cuz then >> I didn't either. That's >> No, that's why it was so funny.
15:05 >> I didn't get it at all. And I thought it was like saying like, "Hey, you're American." And then that's LIKE ME GOING, "NO, LOS ANGELES." >> I didn't KNOW WITH A CHINESE ACCENT. >> Los Angeles. >> What's crazy? In Taiwan, there's a Howie term for Chinese. >> You know, whisen. Yeah. If you're in Taiwan, right, and then uh everyone's hanging out, whatever, and then you have a Chinese guy that speaks Mandarin and or not even or not Taiwanese, >> they'll go, "Oh, this guy ain't local." Like there's the local bradas of the Taiwan. And then they they'll they'll some people will treat you differently if you're not a local, >> but to the outside it look exactly the same. >> But isn't there native Taiwanese? >> Yeah, there is native Taiwanese. >> The Polynesian ones. There's that. They're the real Taiwanese, right?
15:55 >> Yes. Yes. But then you guys are the Chinese Taiwanese Aboriginal Taiwanese. >> The Aboriginal Taiwanese. >> They're getting rid of them. >> They're they're more closely related to Samoan and Tongans and Hawaiians. >> And they look like that. >> They look like that. They look like that. But the problem though, it it's like Hawaiians where so many Chinese people have come in that they've all kind of been bred out. So you're not It's hard to find like a 100% Aboriginal Chinese. >> I got I got.1%. >> Really? 1%. >> I thought it would be more. >> But yeah, if you follow the migration, that's where they came from. >> Uh from islands, >> Samoa, Tong, and Hawaii, they actually all came local. >> That's why when I go to Hawaii, I'm like, I'm native cuz >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm a native local Brada. >> Yeah. >> I show you my 23 and me, but it's the companies went over. >> Taiwanese history is fascinating, dude.
16:46 I went on a deep dive. It's a It's a country made of pirates. That was their original >> project A with Jack with um Samo Hung. And that is that the story. >> What a cut, dude. What a deep cut. >> Sorry. >> That's pretty deep, man.
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