0:00 foreign [Music] I'm always amazed at these married men who managed to maintain double lives married men in management and uh what double lives that's so much work bro so much work I don't work bro this dude okay well you don't have to be involved I can't even maintain One Life yeah yeah that's because you're involved yeah because you're a good dad that's the key dude you got to be absent in both if you're not involved and you just come in and out whenever you want to and if you're absent both you have room for third you know what I mean and you're always working and also you can say you're doing business abroad or your military
0:50 or whatever and then you couldn't have a kid and family in a different country you know what's really sad is as uh I had a friend who uh thought she had a perfectly normal uh like childhood with her two parents and then um her dad passed away on a on a flight he had like a heart attack on the plane and then they were like oh he was going back and forth to China for business like he always does but they found out that he never had business in China he just had another wife and it sucks that he passed away and you can't even like can't even seek resolution you can't forgive him you can't get mad at him how did they find out I did look through records and figured out why he was going and they had his stuff and like his letters and sweaty house so what you're saying is he never got caught
1:41 Hannah's uh got uh relatives in the U.S because this her Grandpa or great grandpa did exactly this damn because he worked on um like a shipping company so he had a he he he had a family here in the states and then uh family back home in Wales dude I feel like I hear about this all the time it sounds so it sounds Tuesday this is not uncommon dude but you know it's funny it's like if you're just a s█████ husband or s█████ dad and you're not double lifeing yeah what excuse do you have yeah you're a piece of ████ dude all right so listen at least have another family this guy's name is Oliver he's from the UK he's 44. he was living with his wife during the week the whole time his wife believed he was a cruise ship captain okay oh my God that is Grandpa which is a good way to
2:31 be like gotta goal he doesn't even know boats so so on the weekends he lived with a separate fiancee who believed that he worked for BMW of America so then he's gotta like go you know gotta go sell those Beamers like we're a beamer collared shirt that's really good and so he was bringing in lots of money but even in his uh ways of like gaining income even that was a scam he made 400k selling fake cruise ship tickets on his Tugboat you show up and it's a raft and he goes welcome to the enchanted boat yeah so this guy was he was raking in lots of money because he would sell these fake tickets and then take that money and
3:21 then just gamble the ████ out of it and make more gambling or lose it yeah so he was he was basically in all facets of his life just like fraudster yeah but that's why he's so good at it it's because he does it everywhere he goes if you're 100 a fraud in every facet though are you high level the truth are you the Michael Jordan are you the Michael Jordan of Friday imagine the freaking detectives like that's legit yeah like not not one thing did he tell the truth this is the real deal this guy's good so that just means he lives in an alternate universe yeah and the sad thing is it like I was the first thing I wanted to find out was how did this guy get caught yeah doesn't say but uh it does say that like he's getting the maximum penalty for this or whatever from the judge because they're just like you there's no portion where you had remorse like you were yeah willfully pulling these scams
4:11 his business probably got him caught up and then everyone else found out afterwards he maybe mixed up the cruise ship and BMW thing does it save if his wife caught him or what happened it doesn't say how how he got mad but like yeah now everything's out in the open and interesting stories like that I'm like I wonder how they were as a child you know what I mean like were they just same thing like through school through their Social Circles through with their parents like is it just everything is just like a compulsive lying contact what makes somebody like turn into a professional con man they probably learn from their parents dude I think it's probably like a really difficult expectations at least from the person's own perspective that's hard to meet so it's easier to lie instead of like failing on those expectations and it just starts becoming like a it's unbuilt momentum and it's like um instant
5:01 gratification because it's like it's almost like you know like when you know we're kids and we make fun of posers right yeah because they want to look the part but they don't actually skate or they want to be a DJ but they don't practice to become a DJ they just want to look like one sure yeah they want the image and then they just go like this with the turntables but they don't know how to beat match and ████ you know like I feel like I feel like it starts with that with that like people are just they want the the the the image but they just suck at practicing to doing it yeah the judge did point out one trait that uh I felt like was pretty uh telling so freeloaders people with a freeloading mentality are just one step away from conning they're just not clever so like if someone's a freeloader and they're also like kind of devious then you can completely see why they would just be a
5:51 condom they already want free ████ anyway they don't want to work for something and then now they're like well if I can like get an angle on it yeah dude I was listening to this interview with the um this guy named Brett Johnson Johnston and he's the number one cyber criminal like of all time FBI Most Wanted list wow and he was talking about how when he was growing up he was like dude my mom ran every single scam known to man dude she would like it in every stage of his life it was always like all right we ran this scam all right what's next and just constantly going to the next she would go to Coal Mines and just start taking coal and then selling it and undercutting people she would she would like and then they started doing that as kids and then instead of saying like why are you doing that what are you like this is ████ up she would be like where'd you get that click over vision how'd you get that how can we run this scam too I want it and so like the kids
6:43 will be running scams the Mama's running scams and it just became this thing that like he had to compulsively do for his whole life until like he created the first like eBay scam selling like beanie babies and then like painting them making them seem like they're like first editions or whatever the ████ oh right taking the money and then nobody else could get you for it so creative and he just kept doing that to the highest level until he became like the number one most Wanted like cyber these people are so good like they are so good to the point of like don't you ever think of like doing something else they get more long-lasting like no that's like Catch Me If You Can though right that's like ████ Leo and Catch Me If You Can where it's like well you're so good at being bad that I just couldn't work for the government yeah and that's actually what happened to this dude he like hit him too saying the same thing dude all
7:33 those scams that you do when you hear about crypto or those Chinese people hit you up randomly like hey what's up dude or whatever hey what's up I'm lonely or whatever like he broke he was like breaking all that down to a science of like wow how to do that and just giving people a little bit of Hope and then just taking all their ████ yeah and it's really ████ up but he was like yeah it was a crazy time and you really do need like sociopathic tendencies where you feel nothing from people but most scams work because they Prey Upon people's desires exactly so if you're people's greed yeah yeah because like those Nigerian scams and s████ because you're greedy yeah you're like oh no I need to help you you gotta dangle the carrot that's true yeah but also sometimes they Prey Upon the kindness like like if someone's like oh I got hurt I need help and then they ████ with your kindness you know so those are the those are the really I only like losing money to greedy skins yeah yeah because you can
8:24 only blame yourself right yeah uh my friend was a compulsive Gambler or he is still and your friend no so he's a he's a hardcore guy he lost tons of money tons of ████ money lost friends money lost a lot of friends right down bad and and so like I I just don't want to be around this dude because it's like dangerous but it makes sense because same story since childhood for him it was normalized and especially in Asian culture like you do it every new year you do it like during special times you do it all the like some his parents gambled all night they go to the casino like no one said gambling is wrong right it's bad but we grew up Christian and we were just like you don't even ████ touch that ████ exactly so I know I'm doing something that's a little risky for him it's like
9:15 this is just this is associated with partying It's associated with love it's always it's just it's associated with like finding like being somebody right because then when he wins his whole family's like Yay like and then so it sounds like that's the same with the scammer if your mom gave you that attention that like good boy you did a good ████ job so then now you're a good game yeah yeah scamming becomes your love language it becomes who you are so that's hard to ████ break Timmy why can't you be like Bobby get a big scam we're trying to we're trying to score big so while we're trying to kind of rationalize in our heads about why people do these like double marriage like you just think that's so much trouble to do right I bet it's fun in this case it kind of does shed a little bit of light on why because he did it so that he could commit fraud under the names of his spouses and like people that trust him so it's not so much that he just wants to like cheat and do all
10:06 this part of a bigger plan yeah so the main thing oh that's that's okay then yeah that's fine oh why'd you say that at the beginning this guy's ambitious he's got goals It's like because usually as a as a dude he's just horny yeah your mind your mind just goes like ingredients so much trouble yeah I thought it was you know adultery and I was like that's ████ up this guy's just a CEO I think when you see somebody living a double life you have to really check and go is there a financial gain to like doing that because maybe a lot of times there aren't and maybe if you never catch it then you just think he's a scumbag but like dude there could be something there yeah or it's a two birds for one stone type of deal where you're like I happen to love this person and I could steal their money
10:56 I thought I saw something where like when 23andMe and those things started coming out people started like finding all these people related right and then it's like I've seen so many examples of they're like oh yeah I had no idea he was such a great dad or whatever and then I'm like well maybe there are cases where they have these secret families but they're still like there as like not a deadbeat right they're just good Dads twice really good multitaskers yeah good multi dads monetize your horniness compulsive fathers compulsive fathers if you had to do you think you have what it takes to run two relationships simultaneously no you could never I can even do one it's like it's so hard well no it's not hard it's just like it's just a lot a lot of if you're involved right yeah
11:46 it's so much but if you were like if that was your only job of just having relationships with people you could probably do it I think we all could if that was if we didn't have other businesses we're all ambitious people I think it's all doable there's only so many hours in a day I think I think we can do it or you'll go look at me like that I I feel like it's an open conversation like if everybody's uh on the same page I feel like that would work oh because then you're not hiding anything because the guilt it's the guilt like are you cool with three fake families because I want to do three fake families right like if you're cool with that let's do it like you gotta find a person that's just like chill yeah yeah you gotta find someone who's down a scam I'm not down for you to have any other husbands but I'm gonna have three wives this life I'm like oh I could settle with it it doesn't sound impossible that's how we know we're normal folks because guys like this they have no
12:36 conscience when it comes to it yeah they need to communicate better yeah this is communication Pick Your Truth love them and theft them they'll steal from our significant others [Music]
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