0:00 All right. It's very rare, I feel like, that I'm authentically upset about something we do on the show here. Usually, I'm putting it on or I'm amplifying it. Today, for this thing in particular, I'm actually pissed. >> Oh, >> shut the ████ up. >> Whoa. You do a documentary on her. >> It's not a joke. >> I actually love this. >> Absolutely not a joke. >> The Untold Rayon breaking badly. >> Why can't she tell her story? Huh? Netflix is doing a a documentary on this abomination. >> Dude, that was one of the funniest things ever. Come on. >> But you think you could do an hour on this? >> I have no idea. >> It's a sports film. This is going to be an hour and a half on this ████ >> Dance is considered a sport now. >> So, for those of you guys who who may not know, like, yeah, the it's so it is
0:50 pretty funny from the outside and everything. This is the worst thing to happen to breaking ever. Is it just cuz it got cancelled in the Olympics? >> It didn't get So that's a misconception. It didn't It didn't get cancelled because of her. It was already prior to that Olympics, canceled for the next one. They were going to They were going to skip one. Um but reputationally, so Breaking died in the 80s originally when it became a punchline. It got funny. It got corny. A lot of people stopped doing it. All the guys who invested their entire lives into becoming these like uh breaker celebrities back in the 80s like Rock Steady Crew that were touring the world coming out with uh music. They had a great great life and then everything dropped and it became underground for the entirety of the '90s. >> Wait, what? It was about to be mainstream in the '80s. >> It was absolutely mainstream. >> What made it a joke?
1:40 >> Absolutely mainstream. Ronald Reagan, they the the B boys were performing for like the inaugurations and ████ It was all over everything you could think of. It was so well tied in with stuff. It started to appear in movies. It blew up. >> It was in kids movies, too. Like people would be breaking. >> But I I don't know when it became a joke cuz I never thought it was a joke. >> But we were too young to know. >> Yeah, we were too young to know. It became a punchline thing where like look at me, I'm breaking and you just spin on your ass. It became like something, you know, everything that gets so popular that's inevitably going to happen. It kind of becomes corny. But for the scene itself, they were depending on on this for their income, for their careers. And then when something like that gets, you know, becomes funny, it it dropped out. All these guys had huge identity crisis. Like a lot of the original Rock Steady crew died. Like they actually physically ████ died because, you know, these guys were from bad neighborhoods that
2:30 thought they had their way out and then they had to go back into those neighborhoods and a lot of them were either shot, killed, died from drug overdose. Depression hit everybody in that area. Like there's no there's not really like The Freshest Kids is one documentary that tells a story about that stuff. But to see something like that happen again, it's crazy because Breaking had such they had so much control over it because it was a a niche thing underground and then Red Bull got involved, picked it up. Silverback, it's on, you know, sometimes on ESPNo, like here and there, like things are picking up. And then when this happened, it became the laughing stock to where no matter who you were, even if you don't look like her, break like her, whatever, people call you Ray Gun. >> Remember when um I think our best comp is River Dance. Remember when River Dance was popular? >> Yeah. Michael Flattley. Yeah. >> And then they started clowning all over ████ River Dance cuz it got too
3:20 popular >> and then and then SNL is doing a sketch on on you know what I mean? Like and then it becomes corny, you know, like and then if you're a real river dancer, then there goes your whole industry. >> Exactly. because now you're next time you're pitching it and you're like, "Hey, how about River Dance for this festival thing?" And then you just go, "Come on, man." Like, "No way." You know, it's like, right? So, that happened big time with Breaking to where you can't escape this anymore. >> And uh and and again, like I'm not 100% blaming her. I blame everyone that co-signed her at the beginning. And those are the people from our community that I am pissed off about because even when this first popped off, you saw those guys in comment sections defending her. And then when it popped off extra, they acted like she was always whacked to them. But no, like we had a lot of leaders in our community going like, "No, dude. She don't she deserves to be
4:11 there like in the beginning." And I was like, "What the ████ You're the ████ guys that literally were in charge of uh they could have vetoed that." >> So they could have been the quality control. >> They could have. They should. A lot of people should have, but then the problem is that because the Olympics is different than most breaking, they have to allow you to participate if you in your region actually made it. So even if doesn't matter if you're 50 million times whacker than the people from America, you are that region. >> And Australia's, you know, >> my favorite thing about that video though is hearing the announcers like from your community trying to like justify why she's there and they really can't. >> That's what I mean. They coddled it like crazy and now they're all acting like, "Oh, what a shame that she, you know, displayed this. Now everyone thinks that's breaking." Those are the same people acting like they they weren't defending it. >> Wait, so is this like a parody film like
5:01 dodgeball or is it a documentary? >> No, it's a documentary. So from the trailer, what I was surmising is that it's the story of how she ended up there. it and I don't even know how much it addresses that how self like I don't even know if she's self-aware that she's as bad as she is. >> But from the title, it seems like this is how I ████ up or like you don't know how I ████ up and this is my excuse. Like the untold >> at least in part of it, she's dispelling the rumors that that she had cheated her way in. >> Has she ever acknowledged that her Olympic performance sucks ass? >> She usually says the opposite. >> So she usually goes, I crushed it. I don't know what you guys are talking about. I sort of respect that. >> Why? [laughter] >> Cuz she actually thought she did good. >> She did? Yeah. >> Even that >> it's like William Hong >> cuz even her she signed off on this like, "Oh yeah, let's use that for the poster cuz it's ████ sick." >> I doubt she has that kind of control for
5:53 something like this. I think that's why it the reason it makes me upset is that if she had like, let's say that this was me, right, and I ████ up and I I was when I had my shot to represent my culture, I blew it, right? and now I'm the laughingstock and everyone is getting made fun of because of me. I I would stop. I would just be like, I did enough damage. Let me just like stop so I don't prolong it. But the fact that this continues and she's digging further into it and trying to I guess like stay in the spotlight that that hurts everything. You know what I mean? >> But you're not delusional though, >> right? Like you have self-awareness. >> I'm not. But that's where I'm like I wish she wasn't as delusional. I also think that because she's not in your community, she has nobody to tell her that she sucks ass. >> I mean, the sad part is is that she had
6:43 to win other events to get there. >> So, she's beating people with that [laughter] >> in the breaking community. Have you heard of her before the Olympics or No. >> No. >> So, she's like kind of like a nobody. >> I've heard of the dude the the male competitor from her region. >> Oh, >> that guy is actually really good. But I the thing is is that that that really she really didn't cheat. >> So the fault goes to the regulators then the fault goes to the system itself. How does that make sense that like just because you're from Pakistan you deserve to compete against you know all these people in America have to beat the best people to like be right here and then go up against an absolute joke that would never even make prelims. >> That that system makes no sense, right? And then that's how you end up with someone like this badly representing. That's kind of the how it works. I think in the uh subjective sports.
7:33 >> Yeah. >> So like um like if you're doing another sport like let's say 100 meter dash or whatever, >> there's going to be a qualifying time and it doesn't matter if you're the number one guy from Madagascar. If you're not hitting the qualifying time, they're not even going to put you on. >> That's how Filipinos are diving >> for the diving board stuff. >> But wasn't there like some lady from Africa because they just didn't have someone to fill the role? So she was like some like congress person or whatever like some politician's niece and she wanted a trip so she just went and she participated and she was just some fat girl running. >> It was like Yeah. Yeah. She just did some ████ running. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. But the crazy thing is that for breaking I guess having that chance it should have been handled more delicately from our people. Our people should have been like ████ no dude. Are
8:23 you kidding? That's going to kill us. And is this about her saying like this is my side of the story or is it like people going to like be like ████ with her? >> No, it's it's probably both. I'm not going to ████ watch it cuz this is like >> No, I mean like the documentary maker like the What's the angle? Do you know the angle of what the documentary is about? >> That's what I'm saying. So in the trailer, like I just said, it's it's she's telling her story of how she didn't cheat, how she like deserved to be there. And then of course she'll talk about like the backlash and how how much it blew up from her perspective, whatever, yada yada. The thing is her damage is just existing. So I'm like, "Stop existing. Stop ████ existing." Cuz like we have really big things we're trying to do with breaking. There's like right now here in Las Vegas, right? You have the EBL, which is um it's a breaking league that um these guys their their crew is called Battleborne. They're Nevada like based. They're they're probably the best organizers for
9:14 like uh bringing breaking to the next level. They have like at one point even like Dana White's people are really interested in taking breaking and turning it into like a UFC style thing. And that's exactly what EBL does. And these pitch meetings are so ████ sensitive. They hang by a thread. You get Dana White in the room for a minute. And if this is on his mind, >> there's no ████ way. You know what I mean? Like I see what you're saying. It's getting shelved. >> Yeah. So that that's the main reason why I'm upset is because I know what people are trying to work on and I know what that does to that work. >> And you saw behind the scenes how many rec centers got closed because of this ████ >> Rec setters. >> You know what I mean? [laughter] >> Yeah. Cuz you don't The last thing you want is if if people were like, "Oh, you're a break dancer. Oh, you mean like Ray Gun?" Well, that's already happened. And and that's the thing is that we survived that era. I mean, it's still
10:05 going to be in the comments the way that like 911s and Anony's ████ It's always just going to be there. But the thing is now that it's sort of blown over and you have EBL and you have Silverback and you have all these like companies, freestyle session, everyone's trying to like reinvest in breaking and bring it back up. This ████ happens. And this this affects the people that say yes or no to funding. It's not about looking whack. It's bigger than that. It's about like, hey, you know, breaking's trying to be able to turn back into a thing where guys can make a living, you know, and people are being paid whether they win or lose. It's not just all about like, you know, pay your way to a tournament and then either you >> It's like when UFC was coming up and they're trying to do things legit, tested, whatever. And then you have like these backyard fights that do look like human ████ fighting and then that thing makes the news and then right when they're about to turn the corner and
10:55 actually become legitimate and ESPN's going to sign, they're like, "Wait, but then people that guy just literally just died on like a chain link fence and then that ruins the momentum that UFC is trying to create." >> Absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like this is like doing a documentary on Charlie bit my finger. Like I don't think this is appealing. Like I don't Just cuz she went viral for this little clip. I I most people didn't even watch the whole dance. >> That's what I mean. Like they're going to do an hour on this. >> I just don't see it. It's just so like I guess the slang would be it's so burger. It's so for your co-workers. You know what I mean? But because of that, that's the common person. It's going to I know it'll get watched. I'm going to watch it. >> Yeah. I know. I know. Like people will see it. But the sad part is that is that like if she's truly a part of this culture and community, she should know how badly she damaged it and how much worse she's going to make it by just staying here. Like this is how this is where it's trying to be at now. Like
11:45 this is EBL, Elite Breaking League, and it's trying to model very closely to uh UFC and it happens here in Vegas. It's based in Vegas cuz Vegas happens to be just, you know, like, and this is something most people don't know. It happens to be the place with the best and most uh breaking students that are young, like youth. >> Really? >> Yeah. More than more than LA, I think. There's there's two studios out here and um they're they're geared towards kids. >> So, a lot of these kids in this breaking league are from Vegas. >> That's so cool. >> It's all the Carne blood out here. >> My god. Carne, >> but I got a nephew that competes in that all the time in the kids league and they're ████ vicious, dude. Their competition's like >> they're doing some crazy ████ like that. I'm like, "Wow."
12:35 >> So, in in order to bring it to this level, right? And in order to get into these pitch meetings, you you just can't afford to have Ray Gun the forefront of like the definition of what it is, you know? But you're right though, like the fact that she got all the way through makes the whole industry seem like you need to get your ████ together. Like you don't have your ████ together yet. >> That should have never slipped through, but it but it did. And we thought it was over and it's not over. That's my main gripe and why I'm so seriously pissed about this cuz these guys are working on this right now, like at this exact moment. and they're Vegas dudes and they they have got their organization so well played and so well set up and they've already had meetings and they're having they're going to have more of them and like I just it just hurts me to to think that like all their work can go to nothing just because of something so
13:25 stupid, you know? >> Yeah. >> But yeah, that's the Reagan stuff. Let us know in the comments if you think I'm overreacting or if uh or if you can see it from my perspective. Um because I know I don't know if Anthony I think Anthony might see it from a different perspective. >> Anony's hat would be like well if you fumbled on like a world stage like don't you think this is like another way you could just continue to pursue your career >> when it comes to the human condition. Is is anybody really responsible for blah blah blah? >> Who knows man? But yeah let us know in the comments what you guys think of this or if you just think uh she deserves this documentary and everything that comes with it. Um, I do feel like again, like I'm not blaming her 100%. It's Breaking's fault for first of all for allowing her to slip through. Second of all, for acting like they didn't do that, cuz they totally did. They acted like they weren't responsible for any of
14:16 this. And then now they're acting like that she's like terrible, but they were the ones who could have stopped it. >> If the documentary wanted to use a clip of you saying all this ████ would you allow it? >> Yeah, they want to. Wait, no, the documentary. >> Oh, see, I got you. >> No, not her documentary. I got you. >> No, a documentary about her being bad, [laughter] >> like about like the truth of it. But I but again like my whole thing is I don't think any I think all attention on her is bad. I don't that's why I don't even want to watch it. I don't even want to even making this video feels like I'm feeding into it a little bit, but I I want to bring more attention to Elite Breaking League because that's really what's going to take breaking to the next level and they're working really hard. So check it out.
// end of tape