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Are Adult Creators Lying About Turning Christian?

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0:00 How do you feel when adult creators end up finding God and they decide to like >> That's the thing right now. All the OnlyFans and like porn stars are now becoming preachers and stuff. >> a lot, yeah. >> It's like the final evolution of >> It's the new stereotype that everyone who's doing OF is eventually going to arc to being like a >> It's a niche of a niche of a niche. >> No, no. What but but are they monetizing it or is it just like >> Are they like quitting their career because they found God? >> Are they taking their tits out? >> That's the thing is like what is monetizing it? Are you supposed to give the money back? Are you supposed to just stop making it? >> I think it's like first you stop the quote-unquote conceptual sinning. Like have they stopped that because they found God? >> What do you What's the conceptual sinning with >> Well, you're saying adult entertainers, right? So, I think it's like generally conceptual that like doing like adult content maybe is sinning, right? >> Can I tell you my honest take?

0:50 >> Please. >> I think it's fake. I think it's fake. I think it's fake as ████ So, you know how like >> Yeah, I >> So, you know the modern day influencer? >> Good conversation. >> So, before No, no. Before I think what we did would be like we have something we want to do, dance, comedy, whatever, and then we go how do we get this this content out there? Oh, cool. There's YouTube, there's Instagram, whatever, right? So, social media and content was kind of like the medium. Nowadays, I think people they go I want to be famous and I want I want to be famous any any way necessary. >> However vector I have to get there. >> Exactly. Cuz I've seen this in not only just adult entertainers, but also a ton of fitness people. They get burnt out by fitness. >> Oh. >> So, what's the next big thing? Oh, maybe religious content creator. Just how I've seen I've seen people go from beauty to fitness to lifestyle to now religion and

1:40 I give it another three, five years and they're going to be something else. >> Religion's a popular pivot right now just for everybody. >> Yes. >> Yeah, it is. >> And I and I think it's >> It's growing, isn't it? >> fishy to me. >> You know why? Cuz they know the demo is growing for for religious like adaption. Like it's growing a lot. >> Yeah, I think there's a lot of people that are very calculated in how they move. Like when I realized how other influencers operate, they study like trends. They go, "Oh, Catholicism is up." You know what? I'm going to just start talking openly. They have no ████ shame being a fake. Like they literally just do ████ and they're they're just an actor. >> I also have an issue with if you're if you're a porn star and you got famous because you're sucking on dicks and ████ on dicks hard. And then later on you're like, "I think I want to talk about fantasy football

2:30 content actually." And then everyone's like, "Hey, but like I kind of miss like [clears throat] watching you ride dicks and stuff." And they're like, "What the ████ Why are you saying all this s███?" It's like, "No, what the ████ You earned that, girl. Like you earned that reputation." Are you talking about Lisa Ann? WHICH TIME? >> [laughter] >> DIDN'T she become a big fantasy football like person? >> Well, no. A bunch of them did. That's what I'm saying. No, cuz even our girl who who's was on this show did the same thing. What's her name? Big titty Erica Jordan? >> Malia Khalifa there. >> Who was super cool. She was a big time Steve head by the way. And I really like her because of that. But but she did the same thing. Like >> No, she was like, "I'm a sports commentator." Right? >> Well, she she seems like her goal is just to do anything that's not porn cuz she wants to distance herself. >> Which is totally fine. And like you have a right to do that. But that's what I'm saying. I think it infuriates a certain level of the fan base where like "Why don't you take dicks anymore? What the

3:20 hell is this about?" >> [laughter] >> You know what I mean? And like and like I got to hear you talk about like how you draft ████ you know, Marshawn Lynch in the third round or whatever. Like I don't think I want to hear that. I want your ████ big titties in cuz Lisa Ann took them out. And I and I want to hear you talking about this ████ >> remember this sports news girl that had big ass titties and she would report the sports and then like whatever and then she would bounce after? She would just jump up and down. >> The gambling chick? >> I think so. She was like Filipino or something. >> What? >> like white and Filipino. I don't know. >> But yeah. >> A lot of these religious influencers or content creators, I'm not questioning their devotion. They could really be whatever religion they're talking about. But the fake part that I think that that smells fishy to me is that you know like there's a lot of parts of Like for

4:11 example like you might be super into cars, but you don't wear that as a badge on your Instagram, right? It's like you still do your thing. So you kind of choose what badge you wear. And they these guys I call it fake because out of all the badges you could wear, all of a sudden you want to wear this one because this is trending. >> Imagine you get nutted on for like 12 years and then you you live in a house based on the amount of nuts you took and then you're in that same house going like I'm really into religious stuff now and I can't believe I ever did any of that other ████ >> All right, check it out. Running not for mayor, running for pope right now, okay? Running for the ████ papal Vatican seat right now, okay? >> Okay. >> Yes, thank you, Jesus Christ. Okay. First and foremost, if I'm if I'm meta about this, I'm like whether I believe it or not, I'm like

5:01 let her speak. Go ahead. Like go ahead and transcend from your adulthood life or whatever and then claim God or whatever. Whether you it's righteous or not because at the end you'll be judged regardless truth or not, but this is good marketing for us. >> Do you like the ends justifies the means? >> No, no, no, because at the end of the day she's going to go into the gates of judgment judgment anyway. So if she was faking it, she's going to hell anyway. So whatever. It's not it's not on me, this mortal being who's just a vessel of God. >> It's on us to judge things as in our lives? >> Wouldn't isn't that not on us? >> that's whack. Like what Ryan's saying like >> But isn't that the whole concept of the religious thing? >> Okay, well then we should just shouldn't have opinions. We'll let God decide everything at the end. >> I'm not I'm not out to say ████ [laughter] a Burger King sucks. >> No. >> Let let let God decide if Burger King sucks.

5:52 >> No, Anthony is saying like, "Hey, LOOK [laughter] HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, ANTHONY? I HAVE A GREAT IDEA. LET'S REMOVE 90% of the content from JK. Let God decide at the end. Thanks a lot, ████ F███████." >> Why don't we have a commentary channel? >> Yeah, what the ████ >> It's good marketing. I'm saying it's good marketing. >> Wait, good marketing for who? >> For who? For the church. >> For the church? >> Yeah. >> Can you name any of the churches ever? >> [laughter] >> Name 10 churches. >> Name Yeah, exactly. Other than LDS ████ you can't. >> What are you talking about? You are you not hearing what I'm saying? I'm saying that idea that if it's popular, if it's popular to suddenly become religious, I'm like, "Yo, I'm going to support that." If I zoom out, that's great for the ████ story of the church. Whether or not you go to heaven >> I think his question is let's zoom in. >> But has that happened? Is there like Do you think that when a a porn star goes religious, that that's brought more

6:42 people to church than scrutiny against her action? >> Can a porn star even sell >> sell tires? How about that? Can we just like give up on this church ████ And like can a porn star sell a ████ spatula? Okay? [laughter] I don't think so. The answer is no, okay? You know what they can sell? Porn-related things. They can sell their bodies, they can sell dildos, and they can sell ████ that are they're siliconely ████ shaped like their ████ >> But before >> Apparently, they sell mushrooms and they're really good. >> But before all this got popular, wasn't there like a Jenna Jameson era porn star that became a priest or some ████ >> There's many There's multiple, yeah. There's multiple. >> Yeah, so it's it's like an old thing. >> don't believe in redemption. You guys are just ████ >> What are you talking about? >> No, it's the badge that you wear. So, I feel like if you are going to do that and go for redemption or whatever, you would do it privately in your own personal life. You wouldn't parade

7:33 around going, "I'm a changed person. Check this out." >> It seems disingenuous. >> Yes. >> No, it's like I'm a bodybuilder and then I turn into I go to Carl's Jr. every day and I'm proselytizing Carl's Jr. and you should have it morning, noon, and night and you should eat it all day. >> I just for the sake of this conversation, you ████ all right? Specifically, the idea of the religion though and and this has only been indoctrinated into me by the by way of like young ignorant like Christian club Korean kids that didn't know any better. They were like, "Oh uh the righteousness of the Bible is uh to preach it and to share the gospel and convert." So so the idea of like actually using quote unquote your platform. I'm not justifying. I'm just saying like yeah, okay, I get that. >> Technically, isn't it if they really are about that aren't they supposed to? >> Supposed to, yeah. >> Versus like oh I'm supposed to eat

8:24 Burger King now. It's not the same thing, you ████ >> So here's the difference. >> And I'm not trying to side with them. I'm just saying like I isn't that the supposed to? >> Right, but the reason why it feels disingenuous is because it's not like a gangster that's reformed and he's going to jail and preaching to them. It's not effective and honest. It feels like >> I'm not saying I feel like it's genuine from porn stars. I'm just saying like it I understand that like hey, if they're monetizing off of it too, there's something in the cohesiveness of the messaging that maybe makes sense in a ████ [laughter] twisted way. >> If I'm a fan of Lisa Ann, it's cuz I like her tits or her ass, right? I don't care if she wrote a ████ book. You know what I'm saying? Like it doesn't matter. So I'm a fan of the wrong things. So for you to come out and say like, "Oh well, I I really think everyone should pay more attention to Christ than my tits." It's like okay,

9:14 good luck with that. You're the wrong messenger. That's all I'm saying. >> Yeah, yeah, I agree with that, yeah. I totally agree. What if she was also a full on Indiana fan though? You might listen closely. >> Yeah, cuz it's just like if if somebody was uh I don't I know this is not the same thing directly, but if someone was convicted of fraud, anywhere they go, anything they touch is now fraudulent by risk, right? It's like oh, maybe that's not legit. >> Bro, Wolf of Wall Street. >> And yet and yet we live in a world where we know a a dancer, dance manager, whatever who SA'd people and now his job or career after being arrested is to talk to other SA'd people about how they have issues. We know that exists. We know we live >> Wolf of Wall Street. >> All exactly. All of that ████ the the worst versions. It's the it's the Catch Me If You Can. This guy was so good at counterfeiting that now he's the the authority Anybody who was like exceptionally terrible at something suddenly becomes the authority on the

10:04 good of it. >> I think that's what makes you feel like the effort is really just to scrub themselves and not to try to get you to do something else. It's really just like I need to find the antithesis of what I was. >> I need a holy cleansing. >> Yeah, cuz I don't want to be attached to this. >> Because on the flip side >> a career out of this. >> On the flip side, there are people that were in the sex industry that are genuinely converting and then they're they're talking to people that are sex workers and then they're helping them. They're like, "I was once a hoe. I got ████ AIDS." >> But girls don't like to listen to them. >> Yeah, but that's the that's the thing. >> And they're doing it in the word of God, too. So, like it's it's hard to blanket statement that it's all fake, is all I'm saying. >> But no, but that's why it's funny though because like it's like, "Okay, I got into Mia Khalifa for tits, but now I want to hear if she's going to draft Joe Burrow." >> [laughter] >> That's the message isn't for you. The message is for other sex workers that

10:55 are like, "I also love Joe Burrow." >> [laughter] >> Totally. >> Can't talk to the same fan base is what it is. You got to pivot. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> You got to pivot. >> She They're just speaking to their their niche. That's all. >> But you know what the problem is though? All of it seems so fake the way they go by it, which is so hard to believe. Like it just doesn't seem honest. >> Mhm. >> It seems so fake like they're out there like >> I do think that Mia Khalifa does the best. >> [laughter] >> Well, she's also done the least content. >> Thank you. >> So, there's that. >> Yeah. >> Big time Steve Ed love to hear it. >> like a whole trend of it and they all kind of have dissimilar patterns and it seems like maybe they had the same like social media coach they hired, but everyone's like a rinse and repeat of each other. >> really are trying to go back and scrub like I want all my stuff deleted because now I'm a person of Christ. >> Which is insane. >> That's insane. That's a big ask.

11:45 >> going to happen. >> ask. >> What's her name who used to be with the cat from my boy Logan Paul who made me a ████ load of money? >> Lana Rhoades. >> Lana Rhoades, thank you. She wants all her ████ scrubbed from the internet and that's never going to happen. >> But she's not trying to be Christian though. At least she's not denying. >> No, she's just saying like I was ex- >> So she has a kid now or yeah? >> Exactly. >> But also I'm not if they're if they're Christian, they're Christian like who cares, right? But then the fact that you got to influence and then try to make money off of it and then just make it a whole like attention grabber. All that ████ just feels so fake. >> It's the thing the thing the like when you're saying you're seeing it as a trend is because I think it's it is the arc where like people can do content temporarily until they've made enough money and now the next thing in order to like go back to normal life is to enter Christian. >> But to test it is I think repenting by

12:35 giving back everything that you ████ So that's like being a drug dealer, right? And then just being like still living in your mansion, still pro- you still have the lions and tigers from drug dealing and you're talking about I'm I'm a man of God now. >> [laughter] >> No, then give everything to God. ████ give it to the church. Let's see you ████ do that. >> that's just the way out. I think they they see it as that's the way out. That's my opinion though. I'm not trying to be married. >> Are you sure? >> Sounds like you're campaigning. >> Sounds like you're like the exploratory committee. >> Sounds like you're beating me right now in the polls. >> No, I would vote for him over you. >> I really don't I don't think it's sincere. I think it's a way out. >> You're sounding really political right now. >> You sound like somebody I believe in. >> [laughter]

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