0:00 [Music] Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have one of our coolest actor friends with us. We got Lawrence Cow. Wow. Lawrence. Mr. Lawrence. I am not that cool. No, you're very cool. Where are you at in your acting journey right now, man? Nowhere, man. I'm just chilling so slow. Are you on like one of those weird actor retreats? Actor retreats? Like where you refuse work and you just stay in a I wish. That'd be ████ awesome. But but I thought that's what actors say when they don't got work but they want to still stay same cool. It's like I'm just kind of like retreating and re reinventing. Is that a thing? Yeah. And then like but it's it's really because they're not landing any auditions right now and then they're just sucking. Is it is the industry like kind of more dead right now? I mean that's what they say but I don't I try not to think about it like that. I mean but it is pretty slow but I
0:51 wish it was like a little bit more. Is there a reason why? Um, I feel like maybe because like the strike and the fires too like sort of ████ everything up. The strike like the writer there's a writer strike still. Acting strike or the actor strike? Yeah, that postpone project's like two years already though. Yeah, it was all back to back. Oh, so like and I feel like the fires really like ████ everything up too. How did the fires ████ up the industry? Well, the Palisades isn't there anymore and hell industry people live there. Yeah. Oh, like producers and ████ Frozen was a thing I was working on because a bunch of producers houses were burned out a lot. Where did they move? Where did they move? To their second and third house. I know where all of them moved. I mean like they're not dead. I'm just wondering if why they stop working. Well, if a main producer loses their
1:43 home, they probably have to switch priorities for a bit. Yeah, I think everything just paused. Joe's like, "Your house burned out. What the ████ the big D? Can we get Come on. We need multiple homes. Some of us trying to get paid. But how does that affect Shark NATO 88? But if they got if they got multiple homes, they could just move into their other home and go to sleep there. Their other home might be an investment property in Idaho. That's true. But they still need to work. That's what I'm saying is like you got to work, right? Just cuz your home burned down doesn't mean you don't stop working. Like pretty bad. Like no one wants to like shoot at you. It's like so expensive. Way less is being shot out. Yeah. But like most of the time where whenever I worked it hasn't been in LA. Really? So all of it is like elsewhere now? Yeah. Like Georgia. Where else would it normally be for you? Like in your experience, where have you gone to film something that was like supposed to look like it's in LA?
2:34 There's a lot of stuff like in Canada or like Vancouver. Yeah. Vancouver, Toronto, New Mexico, New York, um New Orleans. And everyone's taxes is better. Huh. What? Everyone's taxes is better. Did you ever do uh did you ever shoot in Atlanta? Yeah. Yeah. A lot. Back in the day. The tax was like Is that like now not as hot of a spot for shooting as it used to be? I don't think so. I actually don't even know where like a lot of people shoot now these days. I felt I feel like Vegas is coming up, right? Aren't they like they just shot it down cuz Sony is like for the second time the bill didn't pass. Oh, what? But they'll figure it out. They had the votes. They just It just fell apart at the last minute. Filibusters. Nice. Filibusters. Just say big words. I thought when they talk so much to ████ kill the time stall super califragilistic. Well, they do. They
3:24 they put in like changes to a bill like right before a deadline and then it's like if nobody has time to even ████ read it or research to figure out how to counter it and the deadline the deadlines are hard deadlines. So the second it gets to midnight that's it. Yeah. Filibuster. Yeah, the filibuster. But that's not a filibuster. Filibuster is like verbally done. But that's not a filibuster. Blockbuster. I feel you. I'll feel you, buster. Hollywood video. I feel you, buster. Is there anything that you want to do purely for yourself where you're not like working on someone else's set? Cuz I know you you used to like at least when you were like making so many skits, like you had tons of ideas. I wish I still had that. I feel like a like that drive has dissipated over the years and I don't know why. I just like don't feel like making ████
4:15 but I do like I just like supporting other people's stories, you know, just to be to be like an an instrument for someone's like storytelling and stuff. So, um you would you ever want to sell those ideas that you have left over? Um like what if some guy came up to you and he's like, "Hey, I want to buy the ████ bring your own balloon party. I want to buy." Oh, yeah, sure. That'd be the whole thing. Make it a feature. Yeah. I get it's like I Yeah. I don't have like I just don't have the drive to sit down and write stuff. Whereas before, like I would just be like, "Yeah, I want to write something. I know a lot of people are from our generation that's like that right now. Yeah. And I'm wondering why do you think? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe comfortability. Maybe his face. What? Feel the bastard. I'll feel you bastard. No, but I mean like across industries like just what do you mean? And I don't
5:05 think I don't know if they're cursing. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to make steel anymore. I don't think it's You're talking about age. Yeah, I think but I don't think I don't think it's a comfortable thing. What do you mean? Are you blanket diagnosing the whole entire Maybe maybe when people get older, you just like you just lose drive. You lose job for the thing that you've been doing for the last 20 years because you've had to do it for work. So your passion and your natural tap of creativity is a little bit more like dead in you're bored. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. So is there other things that you feel excited to create? Um, so far this is a really inspiring video. Yeah, it's like not really. Okay. I mean, I'm in the same boat right now, right? Like if I get a dance gig or a job, like yes, work. But like to chase it, the same drive I had to be like, yo, if I like put in this work, if I do this
5:55 thing, if I put out this content, like, I'm going to get work. That's duh. It's like basic math. And I'm still like, yeah, I hope work just comes right now because like really I just want I want some of my hustle time back. I feel like you dedicated everything and then next thing you know you're just like you if I was my younger version who had the dreams of like what I would do and I looked at myself now I'd be so proud and yet at the same time like honestly I want to play golf. I want to play games. I want to hang out with my friends. I want to chill out. Yeah. Maybe it doesn't mean as much to us anymore as it did when we were younger. So that drive was a lot because of meaning like you want to make a create like a like a video about balloons. Yeah. Yeah. It's like oh this is going to be this is going to be ████ hilarious, you know? Or like this like just the drive to like I don't know make ████ But I feel like maybe just feeling burnt out maybe. I remember being I remember being being on
6:46 vacations with Nikki early on and being miserable the whole vacation cuz I felt like I hadn't earned it because I hadn't sold a movie yet. like ████ like that. Like that doesn't happen to my brain now. Like because back then I was just so ████ hungry for that first win, you know? I think it's like a a gear switching thing for me cuz like like this job I'm on right now. Like I recently uploaded another um assignment that I completed and I looked at the folder and so far there's like 75 individual like completed things in that folder and I looked at it and I'm like god damn. That's why I don't feel like doing that after I'm done. Yeah, that makes sense. I want to do something different. I'm like, "Okay, I've been sitting here doing music for like like a ████ factory. I want to play video games or or do something physical." Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Maybe our lives more as you get older, you
7:36 know? You just want to do other ████ too. Absolutely. I mean, guys working with wood in his garage and ████ like that. I think that's cool as hell. That gives me so much pleasure. But then if if someone was like, "Hey, can you make me a bed frame?" Then I would after doing that, I'd probably go do music. Yeah. like, "F███ this wood." Yeah. Yeah. I think it also comes down to with the age thing, it's like um when we were in our 20s and people didn't have children and people like we're able to like four people would live in a house, you know, and you would have this same drive and passion and dream or whatever you're working on, everybody's momentum keeps you inspired. You see somebody doing something cool in your same industry and you're like, I want to work on something too. But now it's like when you don't live in the same space with people like you, it's all just like your own selfm motivation and it's like a completely different like experience. Dude, I remember even just friends of mine booking something and being like, "Oh, ████ now. I got to get something like that guy got something." You know, that
8:26 kind of ████ Yeah, I feel like our like at least our like subcircle of friends in like around Irvine was sort of like that because that house that I lived in in Costa Mesa, there's so many people passing through that were having good news about something they were on or doing. You know what I mean? Like you had Mike on traveling the world and like Anthony selling ████ door too. Yeah. I was like, I want to be a salesman. Yeah, we all wanted to be salesman. I was ████ selling everything. And the problem is I had so much like ego in it because like that was the whole point of sales. You had to be like the top sales guy in your office. So your ego would be like, "All right, give me the most difficult thing to sell." And you would talk a big game and you would hate what you're doing for it. So you're like cuz like at first like everything was about selling Dodgers tickets. So we would sell Dodgers tickets, then we move on to Clippers tickets and stuff cuz the whole concept was to fill in like the seats.
9:16 And then after I became like top sales guy, I had to keep that like image but while doing like the ████ that other people would complain about. I was like fine, I'll go ████ I'll sell makeup. I could sell makeup and I'll go out there and I like sell it just to talk ████ at the end of the day. Wow. Even though I hate Did you do that again? Only like a year and a half. I feel like selling Dodgers tickets is kind of tight cuz they kind of sold. That's how I got my dog. I literally traded tickets for my dog. Give it to me. Imagine now how much they sell themselves. Coming out of the World Series last year. Are you kidding? They'll beg you for it. Well, now those programs wouldn't exist, right? Exactly. They only they only worked because the the stadium were too They needed to. Yeah. And the tickets were always on like the far end, but like if you could go to the game for free, who gives a ████ you know? Why pay for it? Yeah. That was a very different like I feel like because everyone was on the cusp of like shaping who they were, it was exciting to like
10:06 see everybody's progress. But then like now that you're in a place where people kind of generally have an identity and it's some of them are just really trying to sustain it. It's like a different drive is tied to identity. I don't know. I think I think drive is definitely like a contagious thing. And I think when you're in a place where like everyone you know is driven over something different, it's motivating because it's a realistic thought of like oh like it works like if you just like keep on it like it works. work for him or for him or everyone system that they people use to to get successful. Like you see the different systems and how people attack it different ways. Yeah, that's the thing is like I can't pinpoint the transition of when I went from like being like everything's possible, I just got to do it to I'm just grateful I have this. You know what I mean? Like that's a very different mentality. But it's
10:56 like you before you know it, you're that guy that's like, "Hey, I'm just happy to be working." You know what I mean? But that ain't how you started. You didn't start with that. You were like, "I'm not happy with what I have. I want the next thing. I want the next thing. I want the next thing." And then you're just like, "I'm just glad I'm not homeless." And then you look at like the you look at the older, wiser guys who are like telling you, it's like, "Hey, man. Appreciate the journey." You're like, "Shut up." Easy for you to say you made it. Yeah. Let me get to the next level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It's a funny thing, man. But also like you end up I think we still subconsciously like choose who we surround ourselves with because at the same time like if you you're hanging out with certain homies that like maybe are inconsistent or don't have a similar drive it's not to say that they're not a cool homie. It's to say that like on my regular if I can at least surround myself with people who are still not necessarily attacking the
11:47 paint with their craft but like still consistent like really like I throw them away. Yeah. Yeah. We see that. Hell yeah. bad influence on get get them out of here. And that's not to say that it's like ineffective to be to have that stance of like I'm just happy to eat. But it's it's a very different thing when you run into the you from like way back in the day and you see it in someone else and it's slightly annoying. Yes, it is. It is. Isn't that funny? Yeah. That's a there. You know what I miss though is like there's a difference between that um insecurity drive and someone that's actually passionate with the mission. I actually miss that. So like um the other day I was thinking about our buddy uh ████ what's his name? Um Brainfart the Korean dude that's like
12:37 got a podcast now. He just he's just super political. Um, ████ Matt K. Yeah, Matt. I was looking at he's so he has a mission to change the world, right? And it's earnest. It's like it's not for fame. It's not or whatever it is. But it just he has a message. And I think like the older I became, the more jaded I am about how people might change and how the world might change and things like that. I actually missed that innocent drive that I had where I can change the world because it comes from a place of naivity. It comes from a place of I'm going to ████ revolutionize this ████ and change the way people see X or whatever, right? And when you're in your 20s, you take bigger risks because you think you're capable of actually changing the world. And you get older and you're like, people are going to
13:28 stay the way that they are. And you can try your best to give these messages out and create art with like that meaning or whatever. It's not gonna do ████ because they're still gonna be dumb. Yeah. You want to change the world and then you realize you just want to change your house basically. Yeah. And also now you got to help. Yeah. Now now that risk is is different cuz you've like earned enough stuff where you like leveled up in life and now you're like man I don't want to risk this. Like 100%. I just want to get work. I mean it does feel much better to change your house, right? Because you if you're changing your your fitness, that's what really affects your your your but also I think having something larger than you that is like draw like kind of like your your life's work is something that I really miss having. But I don't know if it's like when you're a child, you have those toys that you play with and then the magic is
14:18 there and then boom, it goes away and you see your toys and it's not there anymore. like that that magic of making that thing alive and I'm like some people can keep it going like like till they die. What do you mean? You know, so I'm just like ████ I don't know if that veil has been lifted, bro. Clint Eastwood is still directing movies. He's 95. That's what I'm saying. He's going in production I think like in a couple of in like a month or something. He's going to direct another threesome scene for himself. Or like make out with like little small girls. Yeah, that's his move. Old enough for just kisses. [Music] [Applause] You know what's a funny difference though like with cuz we meet a lot of people that will say like I want to change the world but like to me I don't think you can do anything unless you have your own community supporting you. Like a big difference is that like with Caba Modern when Cabba Modern like blew
15:10 up onto like mainstream scene the entire community was depending on them to like we were all like dude that represents this whole ████ world that we came from. and they already won over their whole perimeter before they reached the world. So like if you don't have that and you just you're just thinking too big and you can't even affect people in your room, you need to start here. Like that's a big one. Yeah. Because it's like if no one listens to you, you're just a crazy conspiracy theorist or whatever it is. Then you're just having like that really is like a grandeur delusion cuz you're just you just want that like king's throne. Right. Yeah. What makes Matt not crazy is he actually has viewers that care and they're like, "You're representing our voice." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then that's kind of like, and to me, it's not really about the message. It's just having that passion and and then like communicating
16:01 something in the way where people are like, "That's what I wanted to say, but you said it better through art or through like through spoken word or whatever it is." And I'm like, "That's ████ cool to have that cuz that's actually community building." Like that's like you're representing um kind of like a a perspective that a lot of people have but they can't yet get it out. It also helps that he was so financially successful before he started becoming a person. I think that's a big one too. Yeah. So you could afford to like do cuz then you can bomb throw and not really worry as much cuz that's ████ you money but at the same time and he doesn't have a boss that's going to be like don't go out there saying that stuff. He's his own boss. That's what we need to do is maybe sell LED lights and ████ and and then like I like to think of Joe Joe's toy analogy right now in real life and I'm like dude JK JK dudes is Joe's like
16:53 Woody and his JB is Buzz Light here. Yeah. See, you still have toys to play with. Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh play with your So Joe's Andy. Mhm. Joe's Andy. But Jude's Buzz Lightyear is funny to me. But he still likes playing with Woody. Yeah. I mean, he loves Woody. We got to remind him. You're his favorite toy. Yeah. Yeah. You have to remind him, man. Meanwhile, David Sid next door. He's a tomato farmer now. That's his main thing, dude. David, that ████ is ████ hilarious. I think he's a tomato farmer. That's his That's He's very passionate about tomatoes. you. Yeah, he he'll grow like 20 different variety of tomatoes and he'll know why they're all different. He
17:43 knows everything about tomatoes. So then you call him the f word and then you get on with your day. Farmer. Y I feel like isn't motivation wise isn't Didn't David say the same thing about his own podcast? Like he doesn't even want to do it anymore like his I don't know, man. I just think like every one of my peers at least um what we we started off doing like YouTube and all these things like that uh drive for like creating a movie or whatever like it it all it's all gone. So like it's completely it's completely disappeared. It's very honest. Yeah. Yeah. But like there's there's just a practicality to your like current day responsibilities. If somebody were to like be like, "Hey, here's a million dollars. Uh don't do any other work and like do just like your that theater show you always wanted
18:35 to do. I'll drop everything because I'm not risking anything anymore because the money's there. I'm not putting up my own risk." And I could dive right back into that childlike passion and I feel very We were talking about this yesterday in the car, right? It's like building a different vertical just because the thing that you built your own legacy in your IP, you want to try new things with it and expand in a different way versus doing the same ████ again for the next 10 years. It's not saying you don't like what you do. It's just you've done that the last 10 years. I'm down to try new ████ Yeah. YouTube. This is my 18th year on YouTube. That's crazy. And like Yeah. I I mean this is why I keep it though because I I love doing this but it's so different from like the novelty of infat being infatuated over something new. Yeah. Totally right. But I do think everything will get tired and old like no matter how fun it is. Back to
19:26 the inspiring video, right? If some like like movie studio came up to you and was like, "We're going to give you a $20 million budget to make any movie you want, but it has to star Anthony Lee." What would you write? Let's ████ do it. Um, ████ What would you write for him? And he has to be like the main character. It probably be like a Black Mountain, but they're like in old ancient China. It would be for me I I would write it about a guy who can't suck his own dick, but he has to work out and train and rocky montage. Yeah. Yeah. To and then he goes to the sucking your own dick tournament at the end and he suck your own dick. Yeah. And he and he wins he wins a he wins a ████ trophy. Yeah. How would he save in the front of he has to save the Kinja studio.
20:16 Everybody's like no way he's doing it. He's like, I can't win the national dick sucking self dick sucking because he hurt his ribs. Not good enough. He hurt his ribs. I'm too tall. And he's like back hurt. And then the mom's like, you know, you you know your dad died doing that. Kelly Hugh. Kelly Hugh. The mom. I won't I for like I forbid it. I forbid you doing X-Men. He's like, I I'll do it. I'm going to do it. You'll see. Yeah. His dad's paralyzed because he tried and he failed. But he never told him that he was actually like the best. Robin shoe. Robin shoe. He he was at the tournament and he he tried to suck his own dick and he ruptured his spinal column. Yeah. And then he he thought that his dad was a war vet, but he's actually not. He stolen Valor, but he tried to suck his own dick and failed. And so the family just lies and says that. And then he finally he says, "No, you're not going to follow in my footsteps." And he tells him the truth and he goes, "Your dad was
21:06 actually the champion." He's the best I ever saw. He was the best I ever trained. If only his spinal column hadn't collapsed or something. Yeah. When they find Yeah. There we go. This is the movie. I' I'd have to talk about Hunter like that.
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