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Off the Record: Our Thoughts on the Monterey ParkShooting

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0:00 thank you [Music] and welcome back everybody to another special episode of the careful boys where we're currently right are we off the Record we're off the Record always yeah I love the confidence okay so just some uh context I know this video is going up a little bit later than some of the fans have been asking in the comments um we're going to talk about the Monterey Park and Alhambra shootings today um just for context when we shoot JK for everybody who really really follows us we shoot these uh segments every other week and that shooting had happened on the night of our last production shoot that day so as everything all the news was unfolding and stuff like that we weren't going to get together until today uh two weeks later to finally talk was it happening simultaneously like

0:50 when you guys were eating the news came up yeah well we didn't see the news until after we went home after dinner I was caught in the traffic from the road closure due to that we were like a couple blocks away from the incident yeah and then when I got back and then I was in my bed Ryan texted me and said dude are you seeing this Monterey Park shooting stuff and I'm like what and then I started looking and it was only like two live networks on YouTube and some like people live streaming it and it just happened and you sent us the link in our text there of the guy who was live streaming and and it was like one of those things where as information was getting you know pulled up it was just reporting it in in live and that wasn't even regular news I was literally a guy live streaming because at 10 30 something we were still standing outside on Valley kicking it so when it so would ████ right when it happened we were

1:40 there like yeah we were just hanging yeah after dinner that's crazy I was uh we're celebrating Chinese New Year with my mom and we were gonna eat around here but then my mom's vegetarians were looking for a dumplings in place because she's really just wanted dumplings we ended up being Fullerton and then I came home I think they just went straight to sleep but at like 8 A.M in the morning on the news like I was like just like brushing my teeth and that's what I heard I'm like what the ████ are you hiding here what the ████ I was watching the football game I was in Vegas at my neighbor's house just watching the football game and then I hear because his wife had local news on the other room I hear Monterey Park shooting I was like what the ████ because like that's where we always got it and yeah absolutely mind-blowing yeah that's where this office is located yeah so it's such a trip and it's crazy because when it was all unfolding like while I was watching the live I'm like these are the streets we grew up on and like I was

2:32 there like I was at that intersection yesterday or like you know it was like that corner where everything went down and I'm like what's going on and they didn't even know like the full story yet they didn't they knew that the the gunman was on the loose they knew like um there was something about like a white van and they didn't know where this person was so then uh everyone was recommended to just like stay indoors and have their uh doors locked and stuff they didn't know the motive or anything like that so I was like this is nuts and there were people still out on the streets like looking and trying to record and I'm like yeah I I just thought it was weird and and like you hear all these stories right and then like I think it's different when you know the streets and it's like home I could drive from memory yeah yeah like that intersection I can draw the whole thing from memory because originally I thought everyone thought

3:22 that it was um they were having a Chinese New Year event on the street you know how they block off Garvey we did a video there before yes we did a JK video there um but they some people thought that there was a like mass shooting at a at the Chinese New Year Festival timing wise that's what it seemed like because I know because it was I was eating celebrating Chinese New Year with my mom I know they block off uh Garvey Avenue every single year so when you hear shooting and you hear like the amount of people uh that were hurt or injured because they didn't know that if they're dead just yet your first go-to thought is oh this is a targeted attack yeah that's your first goal and then the next one after that they go oh it's actually not the event they said that it was a Chinese medicine shop that got shot up and then like a couple people got hurt and then so that was weird right yeah

4:13 and then they took that out and they said oh it's actually the dancing and I was like wait what but I remember growing up we used to go to that place it was a it was a pool hall it was a pool hall and it was like riddled with gangs like there was always shootings there so I didn't so in my head it wasn't that weird because I was like oh yeah there is there was a shooting but then um it's no longer a pool hall it turned into like a restaurant and then a dance studio where old people do Cha-Cha so then I was like wait why would there be a shooting there that was the weirdest thing no yeah I had a couple people uh like outside of my immediate circle that just heard like Monterey Park and dance studio shooting so they were sending me texts about it oh check-in yeah yeah um and yeah it's just such a weird thing to feel Associated or feel close to something you know what I mean to the point where people are like yo checking like hey have you heard about this like

5:03 are you okay or like did anything happen at your spot or whatever I had friends that texted me too a lot of fans hit up the the JK IG who know that we're in Monterey Park and they were like are you guys okay like wow so a lot of uh you know I think one a lot of crazy news like that like hits the ████ public really fast a lot of voices got you know out there a lot of conspiracies got out there a lot of misrepresentation got out there what are some of the things that you guys heard or or that like maybe caused a little bit of friction in the conversation of how this thing went about because I know that people were saying stuff like this is like another Asian hate but it's like well that's that's an old Asian guy or like this must have been this because of that you know what I mean you were bringing up what's an old Asian guy the guy the shooter all right they didn't know till later yeah 72 year old agent right when I was searching for the news like as it was unfolding it was like there were so

5:54 many different things going on right and then like I'm trying to get information from like news sources but I'm going on Twitter Instagram just searching on Google but then when I started seeing all of people's like reactions unfolding man people just made it about themselves we just made it about like oh yeah me being Asian and they want to talk about how Monterey Park has the most Asians and I'm like ████ not only have you never been to Monterey Park I've never seen you in this neighborhood you know like and then you want to act like it's yours like shut the ████ up like it's not about you another thing is like all the Asians that came out talking about oh I bet it's a black dude oh I bet it's white supremacy and it's like like how do you how is that even how and then like people wanted to debate about guns and all that ████ and I'm all like it hasn't even been like two hours since

6:44 the incident and you're already ████ like causing all this stupid ████ but the most annoying thing was about how people made it about themselves dude and their own personal agenda yeah and it's it's like what about the people that ████ died and got hurt and all that like I don't know that was the part I think that pissed me off the most was seeing people making about their own personal agendas and then people with these loud voices what kind of sucks is there are a bunch of emerging heroes in the story that's naturally built in yeah like the older store owner who just came in and he was like I heard gunshots I ran to the front and then he his life ended up passing because he he pretty much uh you know like took one for the team then there's the Brandon uh say guy who's like we see videos of him wrestling which is a crazy ████ video which is that video is so nice like I shoot guns all the time yeah

7:34 I have a little bit of like combative experience and I don't even know if I would have jumped in you know for him to just go oh ████ like just take initially that's ████ crazy nobody knows if they would do that no no oh dude the other thing too is the way that he was handling the old man like was so nice yeah like that's what I was that was was shocking to me because if I was like oh this guy has a gun like I don't know I might be so scared to the point where I would murder him because he has a gun yeah he took it away and he goes get out of here yeah yeah like he was so like still chill about it they were like struggling for like it's not like a minute dude that's a long time to be fighting for something like that's the guy who can comment on other videos and go I would have done this I did it but even but how many of those are there dude the guys who say they would are the guys who won't do it no

8:25 yeah even in all the interviews that I saw that Brandon guy in it's like he's really trying to retell his experience and it feels so honest and he's not trying to milk it he just like he's not even trying to be a badass at all like you know he just was like yo like I didn't know if I was gonna actually Deuce anything and I felt like I had to but it was like you you it just feels so honest and you're like man what a guy dude you know it doesn't feel honest when Biden calls him yeah that was stupid but he's getting you know what I do like about it though is that he's actually getting the uh props and notoriety that he should and it's not being hijacked like from another story I've never seen Biden more racist than that phone call what happened because he keeps emphasizing yeah you're you're finally I mean you are one of us you're one of us so I just

9:15 want to let you know you're you're a mayor oh you're American there was a lot of like weird breaks in that yeah like his his Cadence was like almost like he's falling asleep [Laughter] even I didn't even know who he was talking to that's why I guarantee it yeah but I just hope like one thing I do hope is that this like Brandon seems really like hey the aftermath of when you do something like this is not what you think how he was like kind of saying like I don't feel like a hero I just like he was saying like there's like an anxiety ████ yeah he's like I hope he gets like the mental like there's PTSD for sure for sure dude that's the main thing like dude he did a good thing he's the man you see you've seen Newsome uh went to

10:06 his house and ████ and then all the Asian uh there's like photos of him at Brandon's house right they're like talking and ████ and then they circled Newsome's shoes they're like this ████ wearing shoes Nikki was just showing me some video of some guy and like standing somewhere and I couldn't take my eyes off the fact that he had his shoes on an area rug yeah I was like this ████ did anybody uh hear anything about like the shooter or his motives or anything like that um I was getting kind of play-by-play because I have a friend that works in the police department so he gets like the news maybe about an hour or two um before it reaches like the TV station so they told me he told me like the white van I think it was found in Torrance or something right and then they said when they came up on it they

10:56 saw that the driver already passed away um they think he took his own life or whatever and then I think it's it's tough because when you have situations like this you're always trying to re reverse engineer the motive you know is it like a angry guy that's like his wife cheated on him or like what's the reason like you just don't know and then why did he end up killing himself so it's like I just you just get play-by-play but I think till this day do we know what the real I heard there's a there's an update like the official update I think is that he um got kind of to ostracized from the dance studios yeah and then so he wasn't invited to something or whatever and then so he's always been kind of weird and aggressive and I think the dance studio was his only like place of like where he belonged yeah and then after a while because of that

11:47 um it might have been like well ████ these guys there is also like uh just in that month prior um he went twice to the police station in Hemet where he'd moved into a trailer park and claimed his family had defrauded and tried to poison him so like he's just got apparently this paranoid world view of stuff you know what I mean in general we had a friend who uh whose aunt was uh one of the people that had died um they said that this guy was just always really weird yeah he's just one of those people like when you go to a place and you're like something's wrong with that dude you know but you don't want to discriminate he's like the school shooter that's just a senior citizen honestly that's the vibe it's like you know we don't want to like make people feel bad or feel like ostracized but there are some signs of like this dude's not right yeah I mean he like 30

12:38 years prior he'd like uh he was taken to jail for having a concealed weapon that he didn't have like a license for or something like that um dude that was a crazy gun he got yeah it didn't work they're not legal one right it's actually a place like an Uzi it was actually really rare was there like a suppressor yeah it was like the longest gun I've ever it's actually a really rare because as soon as I heard um they were talking about how it was an assault pistol and I'm like uh oh my God that's a new term dude I was like what the ████ is an assault pistol that's my friend and then they're like well they're like technically it is because it's like a Mac 10 right so it's like a it's like nine Milli millimeter it is technically a pistol but but no one in the industry calls it that so they're kind of like just throwing terms together because they couldn't because they it wasn't an assault rifle so they couldn't say assault rifle but they want to make it scary still yeah so they throw another term together but then

13:29 that is has never been categorized in the industry as an assault and that gun is illegal you can't get that in California is it a ghost gun oh but it's illegal though you can't get it it's like a Mac 10 with a suppressor there's an automatic pistol you're saying no amount of legislation would have prevented him from happening but we need a new law a new one well the thing the thing that was pissing me off too is like when I was watching the interview in the morning with the police department right so the police department was trying to give accounts and then this ████ journalist kept going uh what was the what was the caliber of the bullets uh was it an assault rifle what kind of assault right well and then after that term dude dude he goes no it wasn't it was just a handgun and they're like yeah what sucks is that's the part that muddies the actual solution because the real like I guess illness and symptoms

14:20 we're trying to cure is the disgruntled guy someone that got ostracized from a dance studio his family um like kicked him out he's living in a trailer park like he's in he's down in the dumps right it's the like classical um anyone that's about to do something drastic regardless if it's uh school shooting or bombing or whatever like these are the exact same symptoms so if you can troubleshoot these symptoms and catch people and help people get better you'll prevent violence regardless of how it matters right right but they're so focused on this that will never fix this and what's the this like gun control and stuff control stuff because you take take the guns away this ████ will get in his white van he'll just drive straight through the studio same like we see this in every other country Europe's Scandinavian countries all these countries that have really strict gun laws they not only still have gun violence they have

15:11 stabbings and they have ████ uh driving into people and so the more we kind of focus on this fake Target we never solve the like real problem but why do you need an assault van because they're fun I guess I don't know that's why the um like when you look at the root or when you look at the common denominator of a lot of these people there's a very big uh like a social um abandonment and a paternal abandonment and when you look at how rare it is to see these in Asian communities with Asian people there's like look at this case this guy's family is non-existent he has no friends probably and so like in that light of light it's not just a random person who just happened to have a gun it's like look at his life story yeah like most most Asian people kind of have a prioritized value with family health yes and you kind of have this

16:02 accountability with each other and you're less prone to do crazy ████ when your family is in good health with keeping tabs on you yeah this dude didn't have that anymore nope that's why there's nothing else to like feel weird with yeah it is weird how like uh you know growing up I remember any time somebody did something like the combine shooting and all that stuff every time the news would get like talk about their stories and I my reflex is always like don't talk about their story right like like like my reflex is always like I don't want to know because it's almost like it raises people to like be able to do that to lash out and then everyone finds out about them they become famous for it yeah like there's more copies yeah yeah but then when I you know as I've grown older I realize like it is important to try to get to the root of these problems and I think that the mentality of like we shouldn't try to

16:52 understand them at all is sort of like the pre um you know psychology like pre like um learning about how serial killers minds work instead of instead of trying to just say we shouldn't talk to them at all why would you want to talk to them they're crazy yeah it's like you should try to figure out what the ████ is going on so we can help to find other ones but also so we can try to solve the problem because the patterns are kind of similar right but at what point does somebody understand a checklist of patterns where they're like all right they have this symptom this symptom this and I should stop them before something happens like what you know what I mean well well I mean something is affecting you know men over the age of 60 also with a high rate of suicide also with the high rate of like mental health and issues like we talk about our ████ we don't do it as good as maybe gen Z Millennials do talk about it but Gen X and Boomers and and

17:44 they don't even understand the concept or understand how to self-reflect or do a lot of that stuff so then the older generation especially like um in in you know like the Asian Community too like right after this shooting there was another one a couple days after in in ████ NorCal right yeah oh yeah the farm and it's it was my uh my my my friend knows the comp the those those uh yeah the mushroom farm yeah it's a mushroom Farms is a competitor of crazy so I was like back to back and especially like mass shootings with in the Asian communities it doesn't happen it happens to us it happened to us but it doesn't happen with a Asian shooter I guess and it could just be around the Chinese Junior where like your loneliness is kind of like exaggerated now yeah slash groups

18:34 are like together as well yeah yeah yeah and I understand that you can't legislate people to become better families so that they're just doing the law has to do what they can where they can affect it but really the key for me is just you take care of your own ████ people yeah like the people one degree away from you and if everybody did that a little bit more you would definitely have less this ████ yeah you know but again like some people can be such ████ that their family abandons them that too you know or some people can be such dicks that eventually they're homeless and no one wants to care about them yeah some people are that garbage too but again the only responsibility before it becomes society's job is family yeah I think what pisses me off the most about all these situations all the time is the conversations that are being had are always it always comes off as useless because one the media doesn't do

19:26 a great job they're just looking for clicks they're just looking for like the story right so if it's not like a white guy coming into an Asian neighborhood because white supremacy and like a mass shooting then it doesn't make National headlines right if it's like some if it it has to have that like oh what's hot right now you know what's really hot race Wars is hot we gotta ████ do that it's always hot you know what's hot right now is using AR-15s so we need we need the shooter to use that gun so we could talk about it and then if it doesn't hit those talking points that they like and it's not that important then they just won't do it yeah and then they try to twist it they try to twist it like they did with the assault pistol and I'm like dude you're missing the point now you want to talk about assault pistols all ████ day and then it's gonna continuously happen because we're not not really getting to the root of anything and the and the most boring

20:17 answer that doesn't make money for anyone yeah is be better families yeah yeah yeah that truly is an awful message yeah for for monetizing right like imagine titling this video that be better if you don't have to buy anything you're not it's you don't got to click anything just be a better family that's the person that gets his ass kicked in the like NBC ████ writer's room they're like race war title hate crimes whatever what about be better family you're ████ fine ████ up any money because that's where it all begins right because I remember right when I heard about the shooting the narrative was was like he was looking for his wife and he it was it was like a big deal like he was like she was like cheating on him or something so it was that story not even true at all I found out later that his ex-wife or something right um it was his ex-wife they divorced yeah yeah but that was even more of a juicier story yeah that's what I mean like

21:08 that's what they kept saying though yeah we should blame the shooter man your story should have been more juicier that's why you're not getting any attention yeah get a better story dude well when I heard he was a dancer I was like that you know because I'm laughing so hard that confirmed some of my personal biases yeah the people that were checking on us were checking to see if it was us foreign

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