0:00 thank you [Music] weird welcome back to another um with careful boys today we have Walter Colleen can't hello Nick and uh we're missing a few people but that's okay let's take one all right there was there was this thing I wanted to ask you guys I think like a few weeks ago but we didn't get to it but like uh you guys ever been down a YouTube rabbit hole for anything yes where you just couldn't stop watching and learning and trying to like get deeper Iceberg information on something sure it wasn't it wasn't to find nudity um although they do have a nudity on YouTube yeah they have those secret links it oh dude like everything I was talking about
0:50 whatever whatever they do like naked protests they can't censor oh yeah yeah no it's not that they have like um like they'll have secret links and then you know once it's caught obviously it's shut down but then they'll just keep on oh like I'll list it so what does your rabbit hole start and then we're gonna do yeah how did you find that what what this you weren't looking up bull I wasn't looking at it because it's obviously yeah there's easier but you know sometimes I like to work imagine if we had to tell them you know there's porn sites right I understand what do you mean this whole time with porn on it for free because I use VHS are you typing what was your what was your that's racist bro what would you do what was your Deep dive like what were you looking up so we I told you guys
1:41 recently I've been in the fountain pens that wasn't a joke no I thought it was like a dorky nerd joke I'm not a dorky nerd okay [Laughter] you're a fountain pen jock hey let me tell you something just because the fountain pen read it so Community is mostly women doesn't mean that I I am oh that's why you do it because it's mostly women you could probably hit up that Community my boy I am part of the Summer's Eve Community it's a douche brand oh shut up yeah why do you know that [Laughter] how did you get into fountain pens of all things okay so my stupid friend have
2:32 you guys have you guys heard of the Traveler's company no they make Travelers notebooks Travelers yeah so it's called the Traveler's company uh it started with they're called midori's Original company but they broke off in the childish company they make travel notebooks basically you take these leather bound notebooks and you can put inserts in and you go travel and you you document your travels okay yeah so I had something like that for my notes like when I write down bids and whatnot cool so she got me into that and then she goes oh and then he found pencil no don't even no I'm already down this traveler notebook thing don't do found pens yeah she's like no but they're really cool so I'm like so on Amazon you can buy like a to dip your toe you can buy an eight dollar fountain pen when it comes with cartridges and everything it's all like you know self-contained so I used it and I wrote with it and it felt like a mechanical pencil yeah but it was purple ink that's cool and I got intrigued so then I started kept going I kept going I and I and then this company's jinhao it's your people's
3:22 company and then I went to another jinhao model so this one I got the x450 and then I got the x159 because I have arthritic hands and then so these are girthier pens they weighted these aren't waiting yes so like is that in the marketing it actually marketing so like wait in the subreddit Community when they're talking about these pens do they use the term girth a lot they do yeah they don't say it's a girthier pan or they'll say it's a fat pen um that's what they'll say original I just wanted to make sure I use girth a lot because you know selling points but anyhow so this pen wrote really smooth so I'm like oh there's different and I'm just learning about fountain pen so I'm like oh there's different characteristics I
4:12 started looking them up yeah so they started going on YouTube like how to maintain the pen how to fix the pen and then I kept going to like different models because the Japanese make uh really nice ones so I started typing in the models and then I started like looking at videos and people have like commentary reviews and then next thing I know it's like two in the morning and I'm just like whoa dude what are you doing is there is there like a certain Tech that you're supposed to write with those type of pens because I know that like a lot of the if you press too hard it comes out thicker there's Flex nibs yeah which if you press harder you'll get a thicker line that sounds racist and then there's food a nibs which are bed nibs I'm saying nibs remember it's Nippon not nibon [Laughter] but there's food and hold it perpendicular yeah yeah you
5:02 get you get a thin line and the more angle you hold it it'll be a thicker line that's crazy and then there's like some that the feed the pen more ink so you're into fountain pens too then no I'm not but how do you know so much I did I get it's a brush pens like ink and stuff yeah and then one of the options was the pen nibs what are they called like uh just Fountain they're dipping pens okay because there's ones where you dip but there's one that's already loaded too those are found hey what about a one with a feather on it you know how does the fountain pen Community think about those idiots with quills actually okay here's the funny do they ████ on them like what a bunch of the fan pen Community everyone's so supportive oh everyone yeah 15 people will call them out on it um if you go to the Tesla Community people are mean like you have to
5:53 question they're like really you're gonna ask that like just do your research like it's a whole bunch of typical so what's an example of someone being mean in the fountain banking people um I don't like this color someone will say do your research and then that's kind of like you know that's kind of people won't say anything they'll just they'll just respond to the question but where's the other side so people will say they'll like clap back you know at the person the founding Community they'll just they'll just answer the question does that Community talk in like fountain pen puns sometimes um there's not a lot of jokes because it's hard to do jokes that's already a joke yeah oh man I have to rethink things oh do you ever watch a fountain pen you watch fountain pen like videos of guys talking boxes you make it sound so like that I'm gonna
6:43 start no I just didn't know that you should start doing that no but um it's mostly women okay now I don't want to ████ on it is between the gel pen community no you know gel pen Community is posers like like they're ████ losers that's like Sanrio Girls huh yeah yeah yeah there is no Community I like that fountain pen like I said the founding Community is very supportive so like but you don't ask gel pen questions in the fountain pen right thank you that belongs in another three yeah but you will use a different video you will get this though hey I like this gel pen is there a fountain pen that's similar to it you'll get stuff like that okay [Laughter]
7:45 do you like I never knew that was a thing like I just Googled our fountain pens cool and then I saw them I have an image of my head like because it comes from school that you like change the color in the yeah okay that's I just keep thinking that if you like gel there's a great multi pen that carries five inks and there's some that carry fourings plus a mechanical pen can I get one without kuropi's head at the top or every time I clicking his job opens heropi is awesome yeah I actually have a skateboard deck with kuroki on it Hello Kitty's number two deck has all the Sanrio characters on it I may or may not have it is no but I may or may not have the first four editions of the Hello Kitty skateboard are they worthless
8:36 the first one is can you give me a ballpark estimate the last time I checked it was like 180 damn it's on a 45 deck yeah that's crazy but I don't know about now because you know you know you know like okay crypto goes up all the that the value of like basketball cards skateboard decks it all goes up crypto goes down all that all that comes because people aren't trying to buy it yeah that makes sense any other rabbit holes do you got one that's Rabbit Hole um maybe we should not skip you it's just like searching up stuff on YouTube and you just keep going yeah that's a rabbit hole can we're in YouTube man okay I did get into it I did get into uh what is it called I guess crazy modeling like
9:27 oh that's tight yeah I made a bunch of little like Mario characters or whatever because like those simple shapes but then I started looking at videos of like how do people actually do it you know and there's there's so much information there's like professional like sculpting and then there's just like stuff you do with like polymer clay where you can just roll it into a ball and stick it together so it's like so much I don't know techniques for just something but it's really what I pretty much got from it was like you can pretty much do it however you want to do it and figure it out based off of the basics which is kind of like drawing too but yeah mix you can mix colors in in with different um Clays and you can pretty much just need like the primary colors and then you could mess around with that and come up with you oh you mix your own colors yeah yeah so you got to know your combination yeah yeah yeah so it's interesting because like you would think
10:18 that one color would turn into another color but then it just turns gray and then you're like oh mixing this is not the same as light color grading or anything like on like editing you know you guys ever do that no nobody I know color gradient is but you know what a color wheel it's like there's opposites if you mix the Opposites together it just becomes this gray blob but yeah so red and blue doesn't give you purple actually I get into a lot of rabbit holes but I get out of them really quickly because the one right before the clay one was pastels like oil pastels oh yeah quite the artist can thanks you
11:08 should get into fountain pens I know a guy I I it used to yeah I used to always moved on from that yeah I went from inking to like comic book stuff and then I got into pastels and now I'm into this place next is gonna be tattoos watch she's gonna start asking to give up because as long as we've got one less Viet on the streets yeah any hobby take any hobby yeah I don't know that's that was pretty much what I've been getting into just like different art mediums because that's what I think is that's tight yeah no you are very artsy dude I think you're very artsy yeah see how supportive of you guys are with him it was just joke after a joke afterwards hope this guy
12:01 you guys know Pokemon right no I've never heard of it and then there's Digimon I got into Digimon but the trading card game that's not nerdy it is why'd you say it like that because it's a thing we know Digimon your voice is scary I know I thought you were gonna deep cut us and be like well it's because it's not as popular and you have to be like really into the show and really into this well it'd be nerdy if you said card captors or you said like Mega Man Battle Network I'd be like oh I got this guy out of here yeah I'm really sorry but yeah how do you know this world so extensively he talks a lot right yeah now I want to know what Mega Man don't even worry about it let me tell you about my rabbit hole there's um so
12:52 there's a an online game from way back in the day it was do you guys remember Club Penguin I know it's so nerdier than that there's this one called Habbo Hotel and it was just a game where like you you pick an avatar and you go into these different like pixelated rooms as your character and you just talk to people it's like oh really uh very simple but there was like a thing that happened on there where like you know like when memes kind of go overboard and they just like turn into like a giant activity and everyone starts participating that happened on this online community with something called the pools closed whoa so in have a hotel there's like a pool that you can go into and all of a sudden people would just start blocking the ladder so you couldn't use the pool and then they would just say oh the pool's closed and they would all dress up as the same character that was in like a black suit in an Afro so you had like hundreds of the same looking guy all
13:44 blocking the ladder to the pool and they would just say the pool's closed I'm walking into the room with Ryan and they're like Ryan what are you doing he's like I don't know the pool's closed I didn't I didn't uh I've been here for five hours man let me show you let me just show you what that looks like that reminds me of VR chat have you ever gotten to VR chat that ████ was crazy um it's it's like you're yeah so here's here's what the game looks like and here's what the dudes look like that are blocking the pool what a bunch of trolls so yeah actually troll but then it became a thing that would happen in real life what were people saying right someone's saying Hitler was oh don't read that part because it gets there it gets to that it's so um it was kind of ruined sorry so because you could say whatever you want this is like old school internet so like yeah because you could say whatever you wanted people would like it kind of had like a racist undertone to it yeah overtone I should
14:35 say no it's bad but um it moved into the real world where these people started calling public pools and they would prank them and go yeah hey I'm just a little bit concerned uh because I had an open cut at your pool today and I am HIV positive so I thought maybe you could let them know not to go in the pool so then all these pools everywhere were closing because of the age scare yeah damn and that was the joke of the pool's closet the chlorine's supposed to kill all that your rabbit hole is walking videos well because have a hotel was a game I remembered and then I I was like oh who's hobo hotel are people still playing it and then there's a whole rabbit hole about this epidemic pools like videos on yeah their
15:25 experience through it became like really really huge like uh they would put this up on like different pools everywhere it was like a thing with the character saying pools closed they would just post that at public pool and then if you know you know yeah and it was like one of those one of those things where if you spotted it people love the inside that's funny the thing is it's interesting that all the characters are black because then like for the Casual person they're like you know the subconscious is like I hate black people they're making the pool closed they could it could happen through a TV like if they cut if they cast like a a character where everyone hates that character like they do something wrong and that person's like a minority yeah and it's easy for people to watch and go oh I hate that and then they call that whatever race they are right you guys ever watch Family Guy yeah no I watch cartoons I'm a grown man
16:16 yeah what's a Family Guy well earlier in my life I used to watch a lot of the show and then in the show they all hate one character named mang right yes and it's played by the famous me lagunas right anytime I see her in a movie just her I always go ████ it I can't believe it yeah yeah just because of her voice oh wow let's go ████ Meg dude I can't stand her for no reason I have to snap myself out of it and be like oh wait you're just being you're being a silly boy dude there's no reason to hate her that is true because remember there's a long-standing thing about making mystical Asian long beard guys the villain in all these like different movies yeah I'm I know that is a that's definitely an effect I want a mystical beard but yeah these guys they took they take it really far like obviously you can't show this but they would always stand in that formation particularly oh
17:06 my God you know what I mean that's so good you think it's as a it's a joke or this seriously like it's a it's a hyper Mega troll I think they just like trolls just know what's pushing your button and they just like yeah Zone in on it yeah but that's that's one of my favorite rabbits I think it's so weird it's quality yeah that reminds me of VR chat they used to have stuff like that where um you would so basically basically what VR chat is it's like a 3D environment you make an avatar same thing and you go into these different portals where you can go to like I don't know a place that looks like oh you're in Super Mario World or whatever and then um there was one where if you go into these um I don't even know what they call Rooms there there's just a bunch of avatars that are Knuckles from Sonic you know Knuckles yeah red dude yeah yeah they're all Knuckles but they're they have like these beady eyes you can look it up you
17:57 can type in VR chat Knuckles okay and then everybody has their life like he always does it oh this one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that one and then they would go into this room and have this Nigerian accent it's like the Uganda thing yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they would always go up to each other oh my queen my queen like my queen let me show you the way yeah it's from VR shot and that wasn't one of those shows yeah look up a video it's like it's a deformed Knuckles yeah yeah that's so funny so you used to run into them that's silly yeah I used to be in those rooms I'm like wow this is such an interesting world like this is what it would feel like if there were no rules in this world like people would just do crazy ████ like this yeah I think no rules will be the purge yeah definitely
18:47 a bunch of idiots like this dude walk around like Queen McQueen that's kind of yeah and then they they would do these things where they would just suicide off of the map oh it's kind of like but it's like you're not gonna die but they just they just get into a line yeah they would just jump off all right who's next you know I think it's good that they're letting all of this weird virtual world so that in the real world you can just be like all right I don't need to do that here do you think you think they're not working I think I think they're yeah yeah yeah yeah I know it's kind of like I say all my intrusive thoughts out loud I'm a strong proponent of that yeah because think about it you have all these like weird things in your head and you can't you have to resist not doing any of that in the real world so you let it out so let me ask you a question then let's take that let's take that like
19:38 three steps further and like let's say incest yeah okay that's just three that's normal what are you talking about don't do that so like would you rather have because people talk about this criminalizing like chat rooms where they talk about it that's stupid oh yeah yeah because then then nothing's happening you're just talking about it it's just air because what people believe is they'll say oh because they're talking about it now we're giving people ideas and encouraging them and then so don't make the first step to do it dude no no here's the thing people will do it without those yeah yeah I mean sisters when I was like 14 or 15 I ran into weird rooms like that where people were talking about incest or like I just got gross sound left so I guess if they
20:29 exist and they exist but not everyone yeah it's gonna be influenced by them because again I think there's a line yeah yeah a line I think once again when you cross organize uh violence and hate and that's like okay that's ████ up yeah you know because then it's gonna transfer isolate to the real world somehow right but if it's just stuff where it's like you know incest or whatever like take it all out what happened don't scoff at it he's right next door you got a proponent right here man make him an ally I don't know I think people just need to find an outlet for whatever like that I do agree with that actually yeah I mean thank God you're in a fountain pen you know there was something right there was this argument back then about GTA when it first came out about how like people are like oh it's gonna cause kids to be more violent but really they're just letting all their violent behaviors into the game
21:20 you know I mean even then it's just I'm a big believer in it just being a game yeah like because that's how I treat it yeah yeah I feel like when I played GTA and I run people over on the street what else do you do I do most of that because they get in the way and I want when I drive on the sidewalk I want to drive on the sidewalk in peace yeah well when I do that I I just I'm like yeah hatch it's like it's just a video game I think it's also because like in games like let's say you're a square and you have to move over a circle I I kind of equate that as a car running over to person if it's both in a game yeah it's just an objective I don't take it like personal like oh that's a real guy like oh I really want to do this no it's just not at all because we all want to how many people have you heard say that though like when they when they run over people with their car they're like oh I was just
22:10 pulling I was just copying GTA you know what if they say that I want to get their PSN ID and see how many hours they've actually put what level they are yeah because if they're not actually playing that ████ it's not that your fault though yeah and you're bringing that into the game yeah right right and then you know and people will say like oh you know yeah like we found out we threw some research that that guy that ran over the people played GTA well I'm sorry but GTA is a super popular game I know yeah like it doesn't mean everyone's gonna you know yeah super popular and you can literally do almost anything in that game what did they call that like with the game where you can go in your sandbox yeah is that what it's called yeah where there's you could actually play it without an objective and just do whatever you want well like but you can go anywhere like so any any building you see yeah yeah it's called
23:00 sandbox okay well almost in GTA not every building you can do that but there's some games you like everything in the game you can go into you can interact with yeah you can interact with every little thing so there's no because back then like when I played games like there you see buildings yeah the background you know what game is really good at sandbox uh Zelda the new Zelda I heard that it's really I ████ hate that because you could see stuff it's like I wonder if I could climb that and you can okay see that's cool yeah like if I played games and uh you know I wasn't a drone man I think that would be really fun yeah I think if anything more more people seem like they've copied direct crimes out of film than games yeah I feel like like heists yeah I always think when I when I hear about a a failed Heist I'm like y'all watch too many movies yeah um why do you think that was gonna work yeah seriously organized movie but even
23:51 then everything you never do in life is a composite of everything you consume so you can't blame it on any one thing right you can't just go like oh that's true I channeled the rock or something like that it's like this life imitate art or does art imitate life like when you look at like Godfather those mafia movies all the Italians the mobs dress really well the real mob didn't dress that way so like I remember when you guys watched Donnie Brasco which only did the Al Pacino that's how they work they just were regular like clothes because they couldn't afford all these like but the media but media we all ran with it we all thought oh that's how Mafia dressed and um I had a writing professor in college who knew some other guys and then oh you guys are always dressable he's like no we dress well because of the movies that looked great so we started doing it so it chicken egged them yeah but we believed it was based on actual you know
24:42 things huh like I remember there's a Korean um mocking movie called uh New World great movie and I remember one of the comments where it's so ridiculous they're all wearing suits like that's stupid like why would they do that but in Korea like that's just kind of like they were these gaudy outfits and so everyone recognizes oh they're they're like we're just gonna stay away and so it's culturally what people wear we don't and the thing is we don't know is did they start doing that because of the movies or did the movie start portraying them because they actually did that right yeah the the main thing that remains true is all the real dudes in any of these worlds just are the most low-key like you've even notice like you don't know how he dresses and and when you're making a movie about him he's over there going stop making movies why do you want to be publicized yeah
25:32 yeah it's always a realist dude you're just the most invisible it's like you know that Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson uh Julie Roberts uh the richest man in the world just died yesterday they're like no the richest man is this person because no this person drowned he's not the richest person he's like no if you were the richest person in the world would you want people to know yeah it would make a lot of sense and people wouldn't even be able to calculate it yeah because they wouldn't know which how far out it's spread that's what some like some conspiracy theories are is like the richest like people like the one percent of the one percent no one knows how much they have yeah I believe that like uh I did a report on Mafia when I was in high school the Chinese mob you're people's mob they made more off opium just opium than the US had in total currency this was a 19 like uh 89 1990. and that's just off opium they're in their their hands are in so many different things so imagine like the
26:22 richest person in the world their hands are in so many different things there's no way to calculate no like for Rustica they know but there's no way for us to calculate how much they may have or may not have yeah like I don't think the richest person in the world is uh who is it uh and then there's the guy that owns all the fashion um stuff I forgot oh the guy that owns like Zara and everything yeah oh I forgot his name his his group owns basically all the top end fashion labels yeah oh Tommy Bahama no he's second he's number two yeah yeah those guys like I don't believe that they're the richest yeah or the wealthiest I believe there's some dude yeah why were some woman I think you're right yeah foreign
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