0:00 [Music] Welcome back to another phenomenal episode of the Careful Boys. Careful Boys. Carefully Boys. What character is that? I don't know. But is it Careful Boys or what's the What's the new one? Sweat Shop Boys. Sweat Shop Boys. Sweat Boys. We'll do a sweater for Sweat Shop Boys. Especially right before summer. Right before summer. I love before summer. That'd be great. Hey, we should be like the Sweatshot Quartet and start singing together. Okay. You think we can pull it off? What's What's the What's the first melody? What's the first melody? We We actually are going to talk about something, but I do want to expose for one second. What's the song? Give us a melody or Baby from Simpsons. Yeah. Oh, that was from Simpson. That's the first one. Give me your mind. Y Okay. Can you write it and
0:50 we'll sing it? All right. Um, Tiger got his gray belt. Wow. Oh, a tiger. I thought he's a tiger. What's a gray belt? Tiger. I never heard of a gray belt. Never heard of it in my life. So, a tight guy. He's been doing jiu-jitsu. Yeah. And then a gray belt is like the next step after a white belt. Oh, word. So, that's a belt. Is that like a thing? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's like a next level. Did you get a gray belt? No, it's for It's like usually for kids. So, like the kids belt ranking system is different because like the adult system is white to blue and you can't be a blue belt until you're 18 or something right there. Like 16 or something. 16 or something like that. Yeah. That's a long wait. What about yellow belt? So yellow belt is like after gray, I think. Yeah, yellow belt is like the kids purple belt cuz they they have so many different like How many belts kids have? So like they have variations. So it's like white belt, then you get a gray belt and then
1:42 a gray white belt or so it's like two-tone. Wow. And then they do like a a yellow belt. That's just to keep them like on track. You know, kids, they don't have like the same like like commitment. But then generally the colors are white, gray, yellow, orange, green. So green is like a kid's black belt. And then um if you can get green before you turn I think like 15 or 16 and you will get green or else you automatically become uh the the adult blue belt when you're 18. 16. 16. And so I think like Brazilian jiu-jitsu, they like to space it out so that you don't end up having a 10-year-old that's a black belt but technically could get kicked his ass kicked by a 13-year-old doesn't know anything. Yeah. So, they try to make it where it's like really as applicable as possible. You get more money that way, too. Black belt kids getting their ass the thing that people
2:32 don't understand about Taondo is you have to put the music on and then they can fight. People don't know that. Mortal Kombat mix. What music? And people don't know that. What What song would you like fight to, bro? It's always more from Ninja Turtles to Subzero. Remember the Turtle rap is the best part. Turtle rap ninj without being seen. Have you ever seen a turtle get down? I put any blue belt, purple belt, orange belt, yellow belt, um turquoise belt versus any black belt as long as you're playing the right music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But people don't know that. They can't catch it that much. No, they're not aware of that cuz we only learn how to do forms. We don't know how to fight each other. They're called
3:22 pumes. We don't We don't know how to fight each other. Pum are cool though. Forms are fire though. You got to learn your form. Got to know your form. Forms are good for I think kids for sure. You got to learn that ████ And then especially when you you make your ghee like quiet. It sounds so cool though. Lit. No. When you make the ghee clap. Would you make it clap? The ghee clapping is legit. Well, especially when you make it snap on the leg. You're like, "That guy could kick." But then you're like, "That guy is 8 years old." But then you're like, I wouldn't want to ████ with him. If I was eight, that's what I was saying. If I was eight, I would. Or nine. That guy. So Tiger got a gray belt. Mhm. That's like, how long has he been doing jiu-jitsu? It's a big deal. Uh, he's been doing it for 4 years now. I feel like for a regular kid, if they got a
4:13 gray belt, like if you had like the stereotypical type A personality chick that just gets straight A's, I don't think it's a big deal. Um cuz most kids, I think, get their gray belt if you train pretty hard pretty frequently, probably within like the first year or two. But I think for Taika, it was a big deal cuz we started off um back when he was four. And I would take him to the jiu-jitsu um place in I think Leverne cuz we're still living out in California. And I just want him to have like an actual practical martial art where you don't have to turn on music for it to work. Interesting. He does better if the music is on though. That's true. And I took him I took him there to a jiu-jitsu place in Leverne. And the minute I brought him in, he just started crying. Like started crying. It was just so intimidating, especially since he was like a co baby where like he was kind of like secluded. And then now you see all
5:03 these kids in geese and they kind of all know what to do. And I'm like, "Oh ████ this is ████ crazy." And then so um we tried out for a week. We ended up moving to Vegas. And then we got to Vegas to the first gym he he joined. Same thing. He would um cry immediately. And I told him like this is non-negotiable. So we'll just stay as long as it takes for you to we're just going to keep coming here every single day for a year until you get comfortable with it. So, first week we only just sat on the bench and he would like just sit there and both me uh me, him and Gio would just sit there for a whole hour, watch the class. Uh, week number two, I would try to go like try to progress. I'm like, "All right, last week we sat on the bench and watched. Week number two, let's sit on the mats." So, I'm literally sitting on the mat like like cross-legged like this and he's sitting next to me. We did that for a whole week. Uh, we You're sitting there watching kids just do whatever that is.
5:53 Yeah. I mean, I just want them to get accustomed to it. That's awesome. Most parents would do that. They just leave. I would not do that. It's not for him. And they back. I think most parents like working their day jobs. That's true. Well, sometimes. Yeah. Clap. And then week number day job, dude. I'm in the class, man. Classes are like after the day job's over. That's when the classes are. Ooh, burn. I work at a tube. I should know this. What? My demo. My kids at 6 p.m. Oh my gosh. It is after work. Week three, I was like, "All right, we got to progress. So, I want you to put on the ghee. So, he put on the ghee and he just sat there. So, that was 3 weeks. I'm like, ████ In my mind, I'm like, man, is this ████ going to call my bluff? But I I always have this theory of like, kids don't quit, parents quit. That's what I think. So, week four, we got there a little bit early and I'm like, let's just walk around on the mat. Like, let's just go and touch the logo and do whatever. And then since there
6:44 was no kids there, he was willing to do that. And I played tag with him on the mat a little bit. And then the other kids started coming in. He started playing tag and he got really comfortable. And then so that it took like about a month for him to like start doing it. So going from hating jiu-jitsu to getting comfortable, then ████ hating it the whole way through and then we would take one trip to like Taiwan or whatever and you know kids forget everything real quick in one week. Go back to crying again. We have to ████ acclimate like I'm ████ buying a fish from a fish store. You got to keep the fish in the ████ plastic bag and have the water ████ And I do that every single every vacation we take. I have to assimilate. So to doing that to him having crazy ADHD and I'm literally looking in class and the teachers teaching and then all the type A kids are like absorbing the information he's just ████ picking every other people's noses and stuff. So for him to
7:35 get a gray belt in 4 years I'm super proud of him. That to me is like ████ Ununice getting it in one year, you know? Yeah. Ununice. Cuz honestly, man, like those kids that you're talking about, the one the hardest kids to get on the mats is the ones that are so scared. They're crying all the time. And once again, it's like if the parents aren't down to take him consistently, there's no way that kid's going to be ready. Were you teaching him stuff at home or like was he doing anything with jiu-jitsu before that? No, I don't. I wanted it to be his journey. So, I don't want to be like, "Oh, dad knows some stuff and like try to So, I want him to like kind of lead his lead his own journey." Cuz some guys some dads make it about them. And you didn't do that. That's tight. He didn't Joe Jackson him. Exactly. Exactly. Well, what was really cool is um the first gym he went to, that kids coach was like next level. So,
8:25 he was so good that I think he taught me how to be a kid's dad. So, like you would see another dad like like coach from the side after class he like, "Hey, like I got it handled. I'm the coach." Oh, say he's like when when you go home he's like the kid has a coach. The kid needs a dad. M. And then you would see like parents go, "Oh ████ like I don't have to be this tiger, this tiger dad." And so I would just like hear this and kind of learn from that kind of interaction. I'm like, "Dude, that's super cool." Did he turn on the Mortal Kombat music when the kids were rolling? I know. They should have though. Yeah, they should. Dude, that's a huge problem. Like when you're teaching the kids class, the dad who's never ████ trained a day in his life is like, "Yeah, never. It's always And it's like And it's like, bro, like I think anybody loud, it's always that for sure." And a lot of the parents like they don't understand how ████ hard jiu-jitsu is. So you're making your
9:16 5-year-old do it and you're making them show up to do it and they're just like you got to get in that kid's face, you know, like that type of ████ and you're like you never even been in a fight. Yeah. Like you what would you do if you came on the mats? You get ████ ate up, bro. Like relax. Like give your kids some grace. Let them like test the waters out cuz it's like you still have to make it fun. Like our coach Joe, he trained his kids so hard and like his biggest regret is how hard he pushed them. Oh, his own kids. His own kids. And he tells that to his parent. He tells he he'll sit down the parents and be like, "Hey," he tells him the same thing. Yeah. Like, "You're a parent. You need to be on the outside. Let us coach." Because the fact that they're even just on the mats is a win. The fact that they're in the gym showing up consistently cuz most kids will just be like, "F███ this. I'm out." And most parents will take them out. Why does he regret training his kid so hard? Cuz they just don't want to do it no more.
10:06 They burn it. Oh, really? His own kid just is out. Imagine being forced to do something as a kid so much. There's a chance you could Tiger Woods. It's like, dude, it's like my ████ my ████ parents wouldn't let me drink diet soda or no soda. And and unless it was once a year on New Year's or something. Oh, yeah. Look at me, mom. But like his kids would compete all the time and then when they got to like like 10 or 11, 12, they just didn't want to train anymore and they and he would like Yeah. They hated it. And then this kid, like one of his sons, he hasn't trained in a while and he came back. He's probably like 17 now. And he's he's like a skinny little kid, but he's out there beating up grown adults cuz he just knows jiu-jitsu now. You know, it's so you know when it's not like because everybody who got insanely good at something did have a period where they hated it. So, how do you know
10:57 if it's just get through the hate period or stop doing it? How could you tell? I think you just have to let the at a certain point you have to let the kid make the choice cuz now he let his kid go I want to train and he goes all right come and I think they need to be led rather than pushed. So that like super sick kids coach um he told me like one of his favorite things is when he helps kids have breakthroughs. And he goes anytime the kid quits that's actually a breakthrough moment that's ready ready to be like unpackaged. So, one of them they're doing this ████ break fall where you like you you fall from like right here like this and you fall like straight on your forearms. Yeah. Yeah. Ta's ████ dumbass his first time. He didn't have stiff arms. So, he goes boom straight into his face, bloody nose, ████ everywhere. Damn. And of course, kids don't ever want to do that again. So, he's crying on the side like, "What
11:47 do I do? I want to go home, whatever." You know, and then the the the the guy that's when the coach knows how to be like nurturing and goes, "Don't you just sit on the side?" And then everyone while everyone was doing the break fall thing, he goes, "Let's do it together. We're just going to be on our knees." And then they they didn't even fall. They're just like, "I'm going to slap the floor with you." So they kind of scaled it. So we got comfortable with this then from the knees and then then from the toes and then he got Ta like do it by himself after. And I was like, "Oh s███." That's how you kind of like help a person get through a a breakthrough. Or else he was like, "In moments like this, that kid, that's usually the moment the kid never comes back." And I'm like, "Dude, this ████ is like Oprah or some s███." ████ check your bag. Ta's like, you know, on the pile with a kid and he's leaning in his ear and he's like, "Google me.
12:38 You just got choked out. Google me." Hey, Google me this day. That's all you got to say. Probably Google me. this cuz he Google me. I got my highlights on YouTube. He won uh he's done two tournaments now. He's probably like, "How many times have you competed?" Oh, dude. He won both tournaments. Put some respect on my name. Yeah, I like that. That's the funniest. Where did he get that quote? So incredible. Oh, no, dude. Cuz you had him watching sick movies. They say that in every one of those tough movies that you're talking about. I thought that if anything he got it from coach Hinato because there was a moment where he grabbed the mic in an interview post his uh UFC fight pass. Oh, and we were there too. Respect on my name cuz he does really look up to the He loves coach. He does really look up to him though. When I went to go train uh with his coach uh we're driving over
13:29 there, Taco's like, "You think you could beat up my coach?" I was like, "Probably not." He's like, "Yeah, you can't." I'm like, "Shut up, dude. I haven't been training that much. I'm injured. Arm bar, dude. Yeah. So, it's cool cuz now um so there's like two two kids classes. There's uh like the beginners and then there's like the advanced like competition class. And um that's kind of like the new kind of breakthrough he wanted to go through where like now that he's a gray belt, the coach was like he can go in the advanced competition class if he wants to, but they don't ████ around at all in there. You know, it's one of those where like the minute a kid ████ around, they're doing push-ups cuz everyone hears the drill and they're trying to get really good. And I told him, I'm like, "This is next level." And you've been to the competitions, like the gray belt competition level, they are way different than the white belts. White belts are still kids ████
14:19 around. Gray belts, they're doing some crazy ████ now. And I'm like, "But if you want to get good, then you have to go to the advanced class." He was like, "You're going from single player to multiplayer, dude." Online. I was doing unranked matches for a while. You find out that you're not you're not ████ Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You find out you're not ████ Yeah. And then he So, you're not that guy. He's not that guy. On on Monday, this like maybe a couple weeks ago, I went in. I peaked into um the uh what is it called? The advanced class. I'm like, "What the ████ This motherfucker's not in there." And then I look in the beginner's class and he's back in the beginner class. And I asked the other coach. I'm like, "What happened?" He goes, "I don't know. He just did said he didn't want to be in here." And on the on the drive home, I was like, "What happened?" And he was like, "I'm intimidated." The fact that he could say that though. Yeah, that's really good. Intimidated. You probably didn't learn that word till
15:09 you're 16 years old. Yeah, probably. 24 maybe. Oh, that's what that means. That's a big word. How do you feel? That's five. You should have a dollar out that a dollar syllable. Yeah. Yeah. Use it correctly, too. considering like the approach that you took to like get him comfortable in jiu-jitsu again, like how do you think you're going to get him comfortable going into the advanced competition? So, I asked uh coach, coach, shout outs to him. I was like, "What do you think about that?" Like, like what do you do? He goes, "Honestly," he goes, "You have to let kids build up their own confidence." And I was like, "Cuz I could tell you right now, like," I was like, "I can tell you right now, coach, the reason why he wants to go in the beginner's class is he could probably whoop on all of them, so it probably makes him feel good." And he goes, "The truth is sometimes you need to beat the ████ out of a lot of people for you to go, I think I'm ready
16:00 to now get my ass beat." Cuz he just crossed bored. Yeah. Cuz he just got crossed over from being the mop on the floor to now being the mopper. So he has to gain confidence being the mopper. You got to get bored. Yeah. So I was like, "Okay." And he will. So I just let him be. I'm like, when we take him to school, I mean class, I'm like, "You go to any cuz the two rooms are simultaneous." I'm like, "Go to whichever room you want to." And then just on Friday, two weeks ago, he started going to the advanced class. Wow. ████ I'm like, good for you, dude. I'm proud of you. That's really cool. That's ████ awesome that he's like kind of making his own taking his own steps. But that's nice that he's doing it on his own and you don't like tiger dad him cuz that's when he's going to be like, "Man, ████ this ████ I won't do it no more." And then he he comes home excited to turn back. I'm working a weed shop. I'm working in a weed store. I'm I'm going to start doing reggae.
16:51 I'll play ring in Venice. I'm going do vape tricks. ████ this. Vape tricks. Look at my look at the smoke wigs I can. It's way cooler than any arm bar I learned. Yeah. So, so far he he likes it and he's in the advance class now, which is which is pretty cool. Hey, kudos to you, man. You look like your father. World's greatest dad right here. You do it right. No, dude. And it's cool you asked everybody, too, you know? No, honestly, you're like remember when uh in the new Terminator when like he kills John Connor and he succeeded and he becomes an old he's like an old Terminator but like he has no mission anymore so he becomes a father and he's a great father cuz he doesn't need to do anything else but be a dad Terminator. You're like normal drop my kid off and then be like peace. Yeah, have fun man. I'll be like damn. And I pick him up. How was it? All right, cool. Yeah. And
17:41 then and then he starts talking to you too much like, "Hey, I don't need to hear the whole thing." Too much. I don't really do this, so I don't really know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't really need to hear the whole thing. I don't really know. I don't really get the details, so you can just leave it out. I was just saying like Yeah, I'm trying to listen to NPR right now. I was just saying like, "Nobody deal you in there." Good. All right. No molestication, right?
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