0:06 Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. I know we are all pretty nice people generally and there are a lot of things we appreciate, but is there an art form that you actually don't have much respect for? [laughter] >> A art form? >> Yeah. >> Like zero >> mainly contemporary art. >> Like well it doesn't have to be like >> like modern art. any type of uh art, whether it's like performance art or uh anything specific that you actually just can't get behind. You're just like, I don't know, looks like garbage to me. >> All All modern art. >> All modern. All of [laughter] all of it. >> What about modern like architecture? The ones that like looks like hanging off a cliff, it's about to fall over but doesn't. >> The what do you call it? That u that style that's like kind of grim and like blank and then it was very popular in the '9s. >> Minimalist or something. like those guys. ████ them hard and blank because I
0:58 think they ruined society. Like >> you really hit a button on him. >> I feel like brutalism. >> Oh, maybe it's that one. It was really popular with like >> corporate ████ >> Oh, >> or you talk. Oh, that's German, huh? Brutalism was German. >> I don't know. But it's it just makes everything. Um, >> so brutalism >> whatever downtowns look like now, it's all their fault. >> It's the stuff that looks like that. Yeah, that ████ right there. Looks like jails. >> Yeah, like prisons and stuff >> are ugly. >> Yeah. What the ████ That is ugly, huh? >> Basically thick cement structures. >> Why is it named brutalism? >> It's brutal. >> Cuz it looks literally like like it's a it really looks um >> Yeah, it looks wack. >> Very rough. [laughter] >> Look at that. That looks like a oil rig. >> Yeah, it does. Yeah. Yeah. >> Wa. >> Lots of concrete. Tons of concrete.
1:48 >> It's like severance. >> ████ that ████ dude. He's so mad at [laughter] >> No, because that's the epitome of like corporate like >> Soviet Union. >> It's like a courthouse or something. >> Yeah. >> 90s. >> Yeah, that's true. All >> these uh skyscrapers. >> All the major all the major city courouses have brutalist architecture. >> What about the the Walt the the Disney uh >> Oh, the Disney concert hall. >> What you is that brutalism? >> No. >> No, that's too wavy. >> Old and wavy. >> I hate them, too. >> Yeah. [laughter] What? What do you like? >> He's like, I like the Excalibur. [laughter] >> Oh, looks like it looks like a >> circus circus >> roadblocks stacked up. >> Blow that ████ up. [laughter] >> Blow that ████ >> I actually like >> '9s Vegas themed resorts cuz it's so tacky and fun. >> So, you like tacky?
2:38 >> No, what I like is um Victorian. I like >> Okay. >> Even older like how ████ goddy Paris is. Like I I liked it when they they they spent a lot of time just to make a fire hydrant. >> Like you know what I mean? Like right >> it's like you don't really it's a fence, right? You don't need to take that much time. But they put leaves on that ████ They I was like wow. Like they really cared about it. Now what do we got? We got efficiency. We just got bars. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's true. >> We got like a We got a fence that's like I don't know. It looks It looks messed up. This is so stupid. I hate it. Okay, that's fair. Any other uh types of art that you guys have? >> I think this is a popular one that people are going to say, but I'm just going to get this one out of the way. Um I think slam poetry is kind of tough. I >> was [laughter] going to say that
3:28 >> because the thing about slam poetry is like there's some people that could do a really good job with the poetry and like how they perform. >> Isn't it just kind of rap though? >> Yeah, exactly. And it's like just rap instead. But like when it's not peak level, it's just like [sighs and gasps] like I I I try to want to like it, but I'm just like I can't get behind this. That's like my actual feeling. >> What What is it about slam poetry that makes you cringe? >> Kind of the whole thing. If if if I had to point it out, I think it's just like poetry is hard to do obviously, right? And per to perform and do all that is really hard to do. though sometimes like when you see bad ones it just like oh like like it hurts like it just makes you feel like I feel so bad and >> like who's that one girl that goes whoopde ████ doodoo [laughter] >> you seen her >> yeah like that >> that's not slap poetry but it's
4:19 >> but like freestyles >> but it's also like open to interpretation right so it's like or like even bad freestyle raps and stuff you're like have you seen the one video where the the black dude he's on a I think a news oh yeah he's like oh you're going to freestyle right and he's like oh yeah yeah I got to start right now. >> Yeah. >> And then he's like the the the the way to the >> they try to they try to >> brother when I watch that and he he goes it is live. [laughter] >> And then she's like you want to just read something for your book? He's like yeah I I'll do that. >> Oh bro I saw that one recently. >> They try to give me a >> Yeah. [laughter] It's rough. >> Isn't it hard to see any sort of art like not >> done well >> when someone Yeah. When someone's done >> Yeah. When it's not done well. Yeah, but but I feel like slam poetry even when it's done well, >> like it's just even worse. I think it's
5:09 like peak. I think I have the same sentiment. >> Bad comedy makes me like, >> oh my god, I feel so bad. Like secondhand embarrassment. >> But the the thing I also don't like with you is like slam poetry carries this like almost like an air that like you're supposed to find what's good about it. >> Oh, bad. >> It's your fault if it's bad cuz then you don't get it. >> Because you don't understand. >> Yeah. And everyone in the room is like like pretentiously acting like it's good even though they don't get it. But it's like a I don't know. Maybe I just never seen good slam poetry. But I don't know what's good or bad. >> And I'm I don't think I want to like do the work to find it either. >> You don't want to watch enough of it live at that destination of like I get it. >> There used to be one on BET. Remember that? It was called uh there was a name behind their show. >> You talking about that guy Shihan? >> No, there was >> like death poetry or something.
5:59 >> De Poetry Jam. See, some of those were really dope. Some of those and then sometimes you get some guys on there who were like funny in their poetry and it was dope. Like I like that. But then >> I think it's because most of it is nerd tears. >> Yeah. >> It's like a lot of them feel like they're imitating the last guy too. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you know that that >> cadence the style >> cadence is like some guy probably started that and now everyone's like, "Oh, I'm gonna do that." >> Or when they get like too cutesy with the word play. Even in rap, I don't like that. like when they get too like and I'm like dude what is this brother even like sometimes a little >> I know what you're talking about sometimes a little I like Lil Wayne but sometimes great though >> yeah for sure but then there's some lines where like >> it's like this is too much >> he's like nudging you to to be like didn't I say something clever >> yeah yeah yeah and it's like dude that was so over my ████ head I don't know what to tell you >> that sounds like your fault >> and that's why I don't like it
6:49 [laughter] and that's why I don't like it >> too clever for you >> no I don't think it's too clever I think it's just a little lame Yeah, you're just not feeling it. >> And it's just my preference. It's my It's my taste. Okay. >> What's wrong with the ████ brain that creates this ████ [laughter] >> Back to brutalism. >> Change it. >> Get the ████ dude. >> Hardest to change, too. >> No. Can you just make like, I don't know, like a castle or something? >> Like, hey, [snorts] how do you model something like that? >> Dude, >> you have to tear it down. >> That's why they always in conflict cuz Yeah, if I was a country, I would want to invade and blow that ████ up, too. Dude, >> it might be hard to blow up. >> Do you think also too like making these types of structures just take way longer than a regular building? >> That ████ looks like No, that looks like a dam. >> That looks like a dam. That looks easy to make. >> Yeah, it looks like how a freeway is made. >> That ████ looks It looks like the
7:40 freeway pillars. >> Like they make a cast and then they just fill it with cement and they take the cast off. >> Rebar. >> Oh yeah, it's mostly rebar, dude. >> Yeah, that's got to be rebar, dude. Oh, you see that one though? You don't like this cone? That's pretty funny. [laughter] I just got one over. If >> they painted it brown, if they painted it brown and had a big white circle on [laughter] top, that'd be Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That is pretty funny. >> Any other art forms? >> I There's one that I I think like I don't 90 maybe 90% of the time I don't like it. It's burlesque. >> Really? >> What? >> Oh, I know why though. >> Burlesque is so cool. >> You're thinking about the Hollywood like ugly people. Burlesque. That's what I'm Yeah. Oh my gosh. >> Because there's a there's a a side of burlesque. Like when you think of Dita Vontes, that's like watching the Major League Baseball of burlesque, right? But
8:30 then there's so many people that think they can be like that, but they don't have or possess an actual physical skill of any sort. They do. What they're doing is more like clowning. They're more like making almost like a satire of burlesque, like a mockery of the comedy side. >> They they're not serious. >> They're not good at movement and they're also not fit or hot. But that's the burlesque division they're in. And I don't really think that one's very good. [laughter] >> Exactly. >> You do, right? It's the thing where like being >> the ones that want to feel hot, so they do it, and then they all gas each other up. >> Yeah. >> But it's like, dude, I don't want to see a grandma in lingerie. >> Yeah. Which I'm not trying to take away from I don't I'm not I don't want them to feel ugly. I'm just saying I don't get that percentage. >> But it's like the participation award of Berlin. >> Exactly. instead of like
9:20 >> Paris >> when you go to the Mulan Rouge or the Crazy Horse or whatever it's called or Crazy Girls or whatever. >> And I'm sure those had their like comedy bits too in between like traditionally they did but now it looks like that's more the easier one. So everyone does that and then you have like one Dvontise per 10 million others. >> I'm like ah come on man. >> But I was like who you fooling? It's like d and then they're like bam and you're like man I could see you at Walmart anytime. Walmart. What Walmart are you going to? [laughter] >> That's true though. Think about who shops. >> That's true. >> Think about Think about who shops AT WALMART. BUT >> I SHOP AT WALMART. >> I do too. >> We're average people, right? We're just everyday people. Some people not fit ████ fat ass ████ And then imagine this is what I'm talking about. Imagine burless, right? Da da da. And then this
10:11 fat ass ████ comes in a ████ scooter. >> And then she and then you're like, why am I paying to see this when I can go to Walmart and see you at any time? I'm going to burlesque so I could see the athletic beautiful ladies ████ kick and then like whatever. And then like they they spend years there's there's heavily talented burles performance especially here in Vegas. There's a bunch >> and that again you're looking at the top echelon. So you what you're looking at essentially is a person who's so skilled generally physically and they've chosen burlesque as the medium to express that. Then on the other side there's people that try to use burlesque as a way to pass as being skilled. I think that's the other side. >> You know what I mean? It's like this this PERSON THEY WOKE UP one day good at it and they're trying to get better. [laughter]
11:01 >> I think practice more. >> I think anyone who's not good at something and trying to get better is not ready for the stage. It might be like this. You shouldn't be a professional basketball player unless you practice. These people woke up, put on basketball shorts, [laughter] and they want to be taken seriously. That's all I'm talking. I'm glad you understand, dude. [laughter] And you're like, I'm not talking like you go to a show expecting good burlesque and it's bad. It's never that. It's where you go to a dive bar and they just throw it at you and you don't even know what's going to happen. [laughter] >> You're just like, whoa, I didn't know there was a show here. Oh, it's just this. Okay. It's that it's that type of deal. >> Or you actually go to a burlesque show and it's back to back to back that show [laughter] and you're like and it's not even a comedy show, dude. You're just like, why? Why? >> I'm so glad that's happened to you.
11:51 [laughter] >> You Yeah. No, you got to go to understand what I'm talking about. >> How many burlesque shows have you been traumatized by? You only needed to go to one to understand the specific type he's talking about [laughter] >> cuz the upper echelon ones, they're amazing. Like Mulan Rouge, all that stuff. You're just like >> that is real. >> Captivating like an essence in a field that you can't see anywhere else. Like I totally get it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And then there's there's ours. [laughter] There's the ones we got groups for. >> All right. The Careful Boys and Bonos got to go see a burles. >> I mean out here it's it's not going to be fair. They're all going to be good. They go to the ones in like Hollywood. Look at the bad ones. >> Let's go back to LA. >> All right.
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