0:00 [Music] Welcome back to Careful Boys. We got Anthony Lee, dating expert with us again. >> Back again. >> Ran through. >> Anthony Lee dates out of all of us. >> Please answer this question. >> I don't agree with that. >> Oh, ran through. Anthony, >> how many cheating chances do you think a relationship should have? >> Like cheating chances >> like oopsies. Yeah. Like let's say that cheating happened >> like prior or during the relationship >> like somebody's got a record gets into a relationship with somebody's like I have cheated on somebody before. I just want to let you know. >> Oh no no no current. Current >> me and your dating >> like how many extra lives should you have? >> Yeah. >> He's told me 12 before which I thought was high. >> I never said 12. I never said 12. It was never double digits. >> Very high. >> You know it was a double digits. How many uh how many of those do you think
0:50 or is it like a hard line where you cheat once no matter what the parameters or the situation you're out or is there like a grace of like okay just don't do it again. >> Okay. Can we get some like context though cuz like is all cheating like all cheating or there's like emotional cheating there's physical cheating >> Japanese cheating cheating cheating. Yeah. It's whatever you and your partner have declared is within the >> confines of cheating. >> You don't have to be a lawyer about this dude. >> Yeah. It's whatever. Uh, >> whatever. I think that just comes down to your agreement with your partner. If your partner's like, if your partner forgives you and you >> It's not cheating if she's if it's open. >> Is it like a oneanddone thing, though? >> I think that really comes down to your agreement with your partner. >> Okay. >> What if it's just the tip of the dick, but then you have your lady on the wallpaper of your phone? >> Damn it.
1:42 >> Explain that in another way. So, like let's say you were in uh Ecuador for some reason. >> Oh my. Don't make it real. Don't pull real facts and variables into it, you ████ >> You were just in in Ecuador, right? For some reason. >> Yeah. And then so me and Gio were just hanging out, right? >> No, you and Guadalupe and Guadalupe, >> her name was Giovana was bouncing around and then she bounced on your lap, but you were actually reminiscing of beautiful pictures. >> So, I wasn't emotionally invested at all. I was I was actually thinking about my wife. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. See, >> I think that's romantic to a degree. >> I think so, too. >> I think obviously if you cross the unforgivable line that that's it. That's the end. It's called an unforgivable line. Like if you you you put a stain on cuz like what the problem I think isn't always as simple as just like the act in
2:33 that moment. It's the trust issues that follow for years after. Have you ever been able to recover and regain that trust between you and maybe like a different previous relationship where someone had like made a mistake like that? Has ever happened to you? >> I feel like Sam Alman right now and you're accusing me. >> No, I'm the person that just >> a story we heard. >> You as the one who was wronged, not you as the person. >> If someone wronged me. >> Yeah. Like has that ever happened where like whether it's it doesn't have to be full on cheating but like where the trust was broken and you were still able to restore the connection or was it always like dude I can't I can't get there anymore with you. >> By the way, as a Mafia player and I play a lot of Mafia in my time. This guy's ████ guilty right now. >> Look at his face. Run through the scenarios. I've never I've I've never
3:23 been in that situation where somebody had to like where somebody like cheated on me like that. So I don't know the reverse. >> Yeah, it's been reverse. >> Dude, >> how many times? >> Two two hands. Can I fit on two hands? >> Me and Nikki never did that the way you think. >> Okay. >> When you're around my wife, >> it was never two hands. Okay. Could you visualize yourself being in the place where you could forgive somebody for cheating? Is that a dimension you can even see? >> I can't I can't I can't I can't see the dimension. >> I I don't know. I I honestly have no idea. >> Jeez. Yeah. >> Is it the context? >> I think like logically believing something and then being faced with it when it emotionally happens to you completely that that's something that's like it's an emotional thing. That's
4:13 like watching someone get ████ up and you're like if I was there >> in the streets I would have ████ them up and saved them like I'm not going to get on the comments like why don't you guys do anything like I don't know what if I'm like what if I'm scared out of my mind in that moment you know same thing I think I could logically pretend to be like yeah I'm a very forgiving person cuz I really do think I am a very forgiving person with my friends like I I do believe in things like second chances or I believe in mistakes but I also don't know how being emotionally compromise would deter. >> Can you be like a Sharon Osborne? I watched this clip where they went to Japan together. >> Aussie Osborne and Sharon. They went to Japan together. >> Aussie had a showing groupy back >> and cuz he forgot that Sharon was at the apartment. So he brought a groupy back to ████ with Sharon there.
5:04 >> That's next level. >> That's ████ But dude, she's lo like she's still with >> to the end. She wrote, "Yeah, >> knowing this ████ >> in the same clip, Sharon was saying for like the first two years, he kept calling Sharon his first wife's name >> and he was a I forgot." >> Yeah. So, if it's like if it's dysfunctional in the beginning and we're on the same page of knowing that ████ exists, then I think that there, you know, again, that's why I say it's it's up to your guys' rules in your relationship. >> But if you get into a relationship and there's clear defining rules >> Yeah. that it's like we don't do this to each other and then you do it. It's like you you ████ up. >> That's definitely different though. >> You're married into knowing what this person person is >> this person is. >> There there's a difference though when when someone like I don't I don't know
5:54 if Sharon Osborne was self-made at the time that she met Azie, but I would guess that the value dynamic is starkly different. So, she would have to put up with more ████ in order to like stay in this thing. That would be an advantage for her life. >> Yeah. If he if she already married a fully formed rock star. >> Exactly. >> Then it's kind of like you kind of have to take like if it's like getting a a pit bull that's already four years old versus the pit bull that was a a puppy or something. >> I also think like in a way too, why get married if you're going to be ████ >> Some people just have weird marriages. >> Yeah. >> Well, it's more like wealth or family building, right? Cuz like >> Yeah. It's kind of odd. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz I think you see it a lot with like famous people. >> Yeah, >> for sure. >> Or athletes, you see it a lot too. >> Oh, non-stop.
6:44 >> I feel like though at that level, everybody's ████ like it's it's actually extremely rare to be loyal. Like the cuz you know how they say like the more um wealthy and famous you become, the more like everything is just so easy. Like they can't wait to suck your dick. >> Well, ████ gets thrown at you all day at such ratios that like eventually just wears you down, I Yeah, you're playing whack-a-ole too hard by the by by the time you just you just you just got to ████ suck it at that. >> Even you. Even you, Ryan. Even you, buddy. >> Take out of the equation, right? Again, we I think we especially as an American culture live in a society where like divorce is just like that's on the table at all times and I'm going to take half your ████ >> right? Whereas like in maybe like a lot more traditional Asian cultures and stuff like >> they're not even in love, but for the sake of honor, you have to stay married. even if like that dude's doing business in another country and has a whole
7:35 separate family, they just stay together anyways for the kids. Like there's just a different societal perspective. >> Whereas like >> how many of our like celebrity examples or anybody who's who's rich and it's like this this woman's the youngest billionaire in the world because she she got 50% of her husband's money cuz he cheated on her. >> Nick Dunn prank show and we're just throwing ████ at him. We're in van. We're in a van and we're throwing the hottest ass LA has to offer at this guy like non-stop until like one dark day like maybe like at the end of season one he just finally breaks and then we're like watching him ████ this chick. >> We don't even stop it. >> No, we don't stop it. We're just like >> react to it in the van outside. >> We're just like, "Wow, he's really doing it." Whoa. Oh, he's using Muay Thai moves on her. Oh, wa. This is kind of crazy.
8:25 I found out my uh my grandpa cheated on my grandma, >> but not in like family gossip. It was cuz my grandma had Alzheimer's, so she was ████ losing it. So she would randomly just scream ████ like she's like in the room or whatever and then she was like, "And she didn't ████ me enough." Like my grandpa would This is like This is like their 80, right? My grandpa would be like, "Hey, okay, it's time for lunch. Shut the ████ up. You didn't ████ me enough." cuz you know they're having their own conversation. >> Your grandparents? >> Yeah. Cuz we're I'm visiting in Taiwan and then we're just like trying to have a normal family gathering. But when someone has Alzheimer's, they're ████ cuckoo. You don't know >> what scene they're in. Everyone's in normal scene. They're in their scene, right? And then she's like, "Oh, I made your favorite like bamboo shoots or whatever." Like, "Yeah, go tell that woman you're ████ that that that you
9:17 made a bamboo shoots or whatever." And I'm like, and I remember just being like uh like early 20s listening like, "Wait, what the f███?" Cuz in my mind, my grandpa was like this super noble gentleman person. That's how my mom painted him. >> Uhhuh. >> And then it was afterwards I had to like debrief with my mom like is any of the stuff that grandma's like blurting out. Is that like >> Yeah. >> truthful? >> And then she was like, "Yeah, unfortunately." So like your grandpa like he used to work on a ship and then kind of like those ship and train stories, you know? I guess like >> when you go to port, >> go to port or whatever. I don't think he ever had another family. Um, but he did come back and he did uh apologize. >> I had some good ████ in Thailand. I couldn't resist. >> Yeah. To to my grandma. And I think back in those days, everyone was just super loyal. It's about family building or whatever. >> So, she forgave him, but uh
10:08 >> Wow. >> And I never knew about it for like 20 years. And I don't even think my parents or her siblings knew about it until like maybe later on when they were of age when they were it's time for them to get married. So it was almost like this like perfect fairy tale Disney story that you hear and then later on you hear the uh what is that those series of stories the original stories for Disney. >> Oh the grim or whatever. >> Yeah. Grim tales. >> Yeah. Then you hear that version and you're like oh ████ that's crazy. But they kept it together and uh it was crazy to go damn like what what would the alternate universe have been if I hadn't known that? Then I would just be oh that's a perfect marriage. >> Yeah. You wouldn't you wouldn't would you exist if they didn't? Is that directly that's directly correlated to your existence? Isn't it?
10:58 >> Yeah. Well, at that part I don't know cuz my mom is the oldest. >> Oh. >> So I don't know if it was if the cheating happened after my mom or before my mom. >> Oh jeez. >> Dude, Anthony Lee prank show. We throw the finest, hottest ass ████ at him as he's as he's walking around in Vegas, right? And we can't even get enough to do a YouTube short enough footage cuz he just instantly cracks. >> Yeah, he's already getting sucked off the first second. >> We can't. He's like, we can't we need 30 more seconds to get a Tik Tok. He instantly just said yes. Dang it. >> Would you be allowed to go to a a strip joint in your uh in your rule set? Uh, I think I think on like the traditional occasion of like a bachelor party that she knows all the people and then I tell her in advance. I think I think so. >> But let's say the lap dance is all up in
11:48 your face. >> Are you allowed like let's say she the chick grabs your hand and puts it on her boob? >> Is that >> Oh yeah. Is there a conduct limit? >> Is that like a foul now? >> She made him do it. >> Foul. >> And then once she grabs it and does it, do you do the squeezing? Or do you go >> and they're D's >> or do you go ew yucky yucks? >> Do you feel like financial transactions like an actual transaction where it's really clearly like so superficial and you don't even know the person entertainment? Yeah. >> Yeah. Do you really think that that's like cheating >> under Japanese rules? No. >> This is why we couldn't even get enough footage for Anthony. So >> he's like it's a financial transaction. >> No, I think like you said, it's whatever the parameters that you define in your relationship are. So if if your partner doesn't think it is, it's not. >> Yeah. Like if Nina goes on like a
12:38 bachelorette thing and they go to like a male strip joint and it's like ████ buff ass dude comes out >> or they do the whipped cream thing and you got to lick it off. >> Dick with whipped cream. >> The caloriefree one. >> Scenarios. >> Yeah. Where the the dude puts whipped cream on his boner and then >> cherry on top. >> Pulls a towel and then the girl goes behind the towel and they shine a light. Do you see the silhouette? >> That's what you're talking about. >> She's glowing. >> I have no idea what you're talking about. That being said, if if she was in that sitting room with all of her girlfriends who I trust and stuff like that and then like whatever, I'm like, "Dude, whatever. Don't don't tell me the ████ details. >> Don't tell me you suck them off and stuff." >> That's the details. >> I do think guys in the that regard are probably a little bit more lenient. >> Yeah, I'm not I'm I'm not that guy. >> I just don't want my imag like an
13:28 imagination or I don't want to like see ████ That's the uncomfortable part, >> okay? >> You know what I mean? Like, I don't want details. I don't want a person's ████ name. I don't need a photo. Like, just just if you're gonna go have fun, just go have fun. I trust in general just as much as I hope to be trusted in general, you know? >> That's fair. >> So, you could get away clean.
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