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Off The Record: Misconceptions About Standup Comedy

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0:00 [Music] welcome everybody to another great episode of the careful boys we have with us today mr chris sosa and walter holm we got double today now we got some real comedians in here thank god i know you guys know each other from doing stand up or not no no it's first time we met yeah first time so you guys both have been lying about doing stand up there that's awesome i'm at the live factory i just stand up at home well i have to do the last factory how long have you been doing standup i've been doing set up now for seven to eight years and you guys haven't crossed paths i mean maybe maybe the show on the same lineup but used to host chocolate sundae i didn't host i was on it oh you're on yeah regular chocolate sundaes nice yeah yeah

0:50 yeah but you're not very chocolatey though it may have been one of their first like yellow regulars that's tight i may have been you're more like butterscotch yeah a little bit now yeah cause summer uh i can't i can't say for a fact i can't say for a fact i am one of the first but like i i tell people i'm one of the first i don't know if that's true but you probably are you're og man could be like one of the first and you're saying that i believe it i trust it yeah it sounds real cause i look old and everything verifying right now i was really young starting to look old you only look old no when i started if you called chocolate sundaes it took six months to get your thing but now i heard it's like four years yeah it's a long time four years three to four yo i i've been on i've been on the waiting list with the same thing but it was like mine was a year but yeah it took that long for me

1:40 to like actually and that and that's just to do the um what is it uh first impressions first impressions so you get first impressions which is before the show they have two first impressions and you get up there and do three minutes and then the crowd and the producer the promoter of the show is like lonnie she'll she'll decide like if you make it to the graduate spot and you got to wait four years well now that that list is long yeah it's gotten to yeah at least three for sure yeah that's what they got going on but it's cool i mean it it makes you like work for it by the time you get to that that's fine you should you should do your thing even a freaking bachelor's yeah right even the graduate spot you still have to wait for the graduates part so that's that's a lie so so you guys been in stand-up for like quite some time right um i've been noticing a ton of new talent just popping up on

2:30 my instagram and i was just like is this is it is there more stand-ups like now coming out then when you guys started and stuff and like yeah is there like hell or more stand up there's definitely a huge wave that that is coming out uh for sure with like a bunch of comedians and the way the format has been because a lot of comedians now are posting their jokes or crowd work with the with the captions you know showing that because we kind of figured out like there's a there's there's there's content there there's piece of content that we could actually as comedians promote our you know our stand-up so people will go like oh dope like yeah because some comedians i'm maybe it's different for you but you don't want to want to post your set online you know it kind of takes away from the the the surprise of the jokes or you know you can unfortunately run the risk of like comic stealing jokes and stuff like that but uh you get accused of oh man

3:21 it's the same thing on youtube that he does on stage yeah yeah everyone everyone watches like the tonight show and like kimmel and they think oh they have new jokes every day so you should have new jokes every day well i'm sorry i don't have a staff of 20 millionaire writers to write me jokes all right guys we'll do it then we'll sorry we'll do it we'll hop on staff we'll be your right request so in this day and age would you say you think like social media um if posting your your previously done jokes do you think that helps your set and then people go oh tell me that one joke or do you think it ruins the shine of that joke when you first release it okay so in my career there's only been i think like one or two times where i've heard people like the crowd was like hey do that one bit and it was it was mark curry and i the story that i heard was that he had he's from oakland he had

4:11 gone back to oakland this is after hanging with mr cooper and all that and he had a whole set dude get a whole set and they go the people started shouting hey do that one bit blah blah blah blah and then do that one because you know black people just shout stuff out yeah you got the other extreme you get lucky if they laugh you know so it's a definitely a different thing so they're shouting stuff out so apparently mark couldn't do his set at all he just did requests all night he's a he's a clean comic too right he's not really clean but he's dude he is a beast on stage dude he's great man that's been i haven't heard that name of soul if i were to um like request a bit

5:02 one of my favorite bits is actually by uh kevin hart the one where he goes oh i'mma give you what you want you know the more he talks about just let me reach in my dad yeah he's getting robbed he has his gun stored in his ████ dryer and he's like behind the toilet oh i'm gonna give you what you want i'll give you which one yeah and then they add the audio in the back which is super cool too it's a dope effect but what are you saying like what was the the punch it was always the uh i think the punch reveal it's him laughing at himself yeah because he has such a good time you know that he can like because he's like i think that whole bit i think um heightens like three times so it's about a robber that comes in and he goes now in this day and age is like crazy so you gotta hide your guns all over the place especially if you're balling or whatever and then he has two i think dobermans but they're ████ they don't do anything yeah so now on the rubber the robber comes in like he

5:53 like he hides in different places but then to like i think distract them he tells them like i'm gonna give you what you want and then he pulls out like the gun but then seeing him laugh and then him thinking about where the next place is gonna be like he knows where he's gonna go and he's like he's like laughing at himself at the very last like uh punch he'll go i got one more and he's like crying laughing he's like i'm gonna give you what you want and you can't even get it out yeah that's tight that's time i heard they do that a lot now like um because people that go to shows already know the set they listen to their podcast so it's like an inside thing right so when they go they're just like do that one bit do that one bit and then like i forgot if it was uh tom segura or someone was like half of their shows is just doing bits that people like

6:43 that's dope right yeah isn't that a ████ dream though i mean that because because when i mean thinking about it right now i'm like uh would i want to do that like what is that something would be cool and i don't i mean thinking about thinking like uh it would be cool i just the only thing is that like we know we all know where it's gonna go the punches that's the most exciting part when i when we're taking you in the story and you guys have no clue that i'm about to hit you with this so i like the surprise yeah yeah yeah but when but i if i could think about like what those audience members are probably doing it's like if you go to your favorite concert like like your your band right fan service you gotta play the hero stairway you gotta do it yeah yeah you can't go to led zeppelin concert without listening to stairway you know i was like why if people knew your ████ so much they were saying i'm with you that's the boy

7:37 but i think people people i think incorrectly equate comedians and singers because like singers you can go like i always say america's got talent singers have it the easiest because they suggest they even highly suggest you don't do original work like cover someone else's song but a comment goes up they don't tell the comment hey cover someone else's word you'll be good and then so people come to the shows and they talk to their friends while you're on stage because they think it's like a singer yeah like when a singer is singing you can talk to your friend it's no big deal won't distract that per person but for a comic it distracts us when you're talking to your friend because hey what do you want to do later i didn't think about that i didn't think about seeing people's personal like little s████ oh dude big it's getting louder now it's getting

8:27 louder is it because there's a new crowd that's coming in that don't understand stand-up and then they're just like or people are just more entertaining etiquette i think it's both i think there's new people and it's also hey i can do what i want now like i'm entitled you know what i'm more important than this person i know no one came to see me but i'm more important this person on stage so i'm gonna be like yo hey when we go out later what do you want to do do you want to do shots or cocktails and don't have these and make conversations all the standards on stage exactly heckling videos are becoming famous yeah like andrew shows like like his his crowd work was really a lot of like had a big uh a a reason of why like he popped off his is watching his like clap back his clap backs and stuff so now people kind of want to yeah you know roast it back you know what i'm saying it's like it's one of those

9:17 things where the heckling's even crazier now yeah my opinion i think so too yeah i think people are out there going yeah that's me he's talking ████ exactly exactly people also incorrectly assume all stand-up comics do crowd work and that's not the case either and even the ones that do it 95 are written beforehand but the audience believes oh he's just being off the top of his head no it's like oh if there's an asian guy right here i'm going to make fun of this yeah and then oh dude he's so on point like it's off the top of his head no it's written down don rickles who's the most one of the most famous everything was handwritten wow he would have the host seat like said a jewish person here said a fat person there so all his movements were based on where everyone was sitting wow so it was constructed

10:07 yeah most comics don't have the like because you have to be wired a certain way to like hear anything and then react like in a funny way like a faith healer the crutches you know yeah i feel like you want to be a jewish guy right here [Laughter] jewish guy in this area is there a fat man on the side is there a fat man you can visually you can visually see stupid yeah it's it's it's definitely like yeah because i think when crowds come to comedy clubs they assume comics are a certain way and then when they don't get that they're like oh this guy sucks but it's like no it's certain like certain comics do one-liners they don't do stories some comics do stories and they don't do one-liners you can't say oh this comic sucks so they don't do one-liners you know and so i think

10:58 people that go to comedy clubs when you guys go be open like you're there to laugh that's the main thing don't forget that yeah don't forget that oh man i totally forgot do you think people in the past the comedy audience understood like just what was what they were going for more i think so because they went frequently now also like they would go like it's like going to the movies every week yeah it's like a regular thing now you got people that just come for the first time or second time they're like oh i got this like i know what to do i've had people comment on the jokes as the comics are doing jokes and it's like what are you what are you doing the hell yeah like like like they're ████ commenting like it's youtube yeah like they'll make like comments it's not like they may say oh that was a good joke or a bad joke it's like let's say you're talking about laundry like oh yeah like yeah i do laundry too they

11:48 it's like it's like they're in conversation with you you know they're like in it someone get that guy mike he does laundry too i have a question about uh comedians online i feel like because everything is such a uh like a sports highlight of someone's set only the best ████ will go online for certain comedians have you ever seen a comedian online that you're like oh this guy's funny and then you saw his whole set and you were like dude had like one good joke oh say their name go ahead camera and tell them who it is [Laughter] wait oh uh yeah i mean for sure i mean i don't know i think i think in general with social media right we want to post our best bangers bangers right like you know what i mean like you're not you're not posting you're lifting them

12:44 [Laughter] doesn't even do it i'm like get caught every time bro because it does the it's the prep it's the pet the whole ████ thing and i'm like winning out of muscle he shows his ████ ass or if it's on the bench his back arch is so crazy i'm like oh he's about to ████ go in and the video ends the ████ he falls over oh i feel where i'll go with that oh you want to post your bangers uh but yeah you wanna you also listen for like the the heaviest laugh you're like oh this is this is going to be the 15 second that i that i that i post whatever but yeah you definitely have to follow up with like you know you got to make sure your set's going to be nice you know you know i mean like can't go out like that you know but it seems like nowadays most people just post like their crowd work

13:35 though like as their clips it does seem like something that can be a little bit more disposable than actual material right right it feels more candid too yeah yeah that's what gets people in because i feel like all these people that are hopping on this trend that's what they tend to do like that whole stavros that falls popping up everything everywhere and it's just him ████ on different people different hecklers that like you guys brought up that just want to be a part of the conversation and they just start talking to the comedian it shows it shows a little more authenticity you know what i mean like of uh of uh or he's naturally funny you know oh he oh he naturally has it he's yeah he's he's thinking this on point technically right he's just coming up with it on the fly people like to think they're unique so like like let's say a white guy that's like pudgy sits down he thinks no one else is white and no one else is pudgy dude jokes about me being white the only white guy yeah but the comic has already made jokes about a white pudgy guy a

14:26 thousand times a thousand times so when the guy sits down everyone thinks oh yeah this guy's like crazy he's funny no one ever came into this club that's white and his pudgy no one ever did you know and so and so the the thing that sucks about you know when you only do crowd work what sucks is the audience could turn on you too because they'll be like oh this guy's not funny enough to write material uh so it's like you can't win one way or the other yeah yeah it's a balance it's a balance you can't go full on crowd work because then it's like because then especially if they're just dedicating their whole show to just this these two people in the front row then everybody else in the audience is kind of going like okay well what about what about us then what about me you know yeah yeah there's a cup like ian bagg is known for his crowd work his whole set is crowd work i don't even think i've ever seen him do regular material it's just all crowded

15:16 he comes and starts roasting yeah he just starts talking to everybody and like that's one way to do it you know posts for like 10 minutes that's his hosting [Laughter] imagine you buy his album you don't know anything that he's talking about yeah that's that's what it looks like what is this guy he's talking to yeah it's like radio show you're like wait no i don't see the guy i don't know those that are based heavily on the like the local city that they're performing in you know you know right oh that barbecue spot down the street everyone's like going crazy though they're going like yeah oh yeah the people and what's funny is when you travel people tap when town will say oh if you do a joke about this they'll love it because it's specific to local time like yeah but if i take time to write this joke um i could only use

16:06 it here like i'm not gonna you know i'm not gonna do that you know i mean i know some comics do like a quick couple like one-liners here and there to drop about the local knowledge two three minutes of it yeah the audience gets hyped the obvious but when you listen to it you're like what i i don't i don't know that street or like i don't know i don't have like jokes where there's just like a blank and you can put whatever town or thank you you don't feel your name your city yeah it's like the southwest commercial welcome you know thank you san francisco like we're in l.a yeah it's like one of those things ████ i don't think i've ever have you ever had a moment where you like messed up the city that it's out loud saying like you know orlando your mind i'm on a crowd i've done that hosting i've done it to comics names oh because on purpose no yeah no no i wish i wish i was on purpose

16:56 one of the worst ones for me because like this guy's name is cisco this comic's name is cisco and this is like this is where the worst and best ones so um when it's a new word or i don't know the comic um like chris is easy like okay i'll remember like when you come out says chris but like for cisco i know the word but i don't know i didn't know the name and the guy's name you know associated to him i go on stage and i'm doing my set and he's the first comment and bring him up and in my mind i know it's that there's a c and a c and an o but i've neglected the i s okay in my mind so i'm just like okay cool i mean everyone walk on the stage coco and then he's on the side and he goes it's cisco and i go and for me like when i make a mistake i'll start over

17:46 like i'll own the mistake but that's funny and i start over people do you like walk back and then walk back out well no what happened was it's like you should do it was like oh you know hey and then so i was like hey everyone you know what and i put you know listed his credit again and i was like everyone put your hands together for cisco and i brought him back on right now like dude i'm so sorry man and then the security guard he go he's locked his guys he goes hey you know what though you were confident with it i believed it was everyone believed his name everybody make some noise get on your feet get your hands together you see them all over the country and you're in your head you're like what's his name what's his name you're building it up yeah oh there's a seat oh

18:38 looking at your phone he's performed here do you guys know the comic ron pearson no he's a juggler amazing juggler so like towards the end of his set he has a whole set of just juggling and he does comedy while he's juggling wow now i hate now i hate that i don't i know because the thing you're like yeah he's a crazy juggler like that's why we don't know i'm sorry i'm sorry about that you guys are juggling actually he has time he'll balance the stool on his chin he goes he goes around a lot with george wallace yeah i'll just pick a city on the at the airport and they'll go you didn't say it was royal perform like oh gee george wallace yeah yeah yeah that's so crazy so ron pearson that name sounds awfully similar to ron perlman who if you don't know rom the actor

19:28 guy from hellboy yeah he narrates the ufc like embedded things oh he does oh that's a deep cut yeah so at the time sons of anarchy was big so i'm you know i'm thinking you're like oh ron all i have is on my mind is ron paul but then as soon as i say ron i'm about to say perlman ron perr i'm like his name's not ron palmer he's not wrong what are you doing what are you doing what are you doing so i was like no joe i went you know put your hands together for ron and i'm like what's his name what's his name the whole time oh you got it and then ron comes out and he goes wait what was that i go dude for a split second i thought your name was ron perlman but i know it's not and he starts dying [Laughter] you just turn into a dubstep dj

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